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--- Log opened Fri Feb 20 00:00:19 2004 00:00 < daja77> n8 you all 00:00 < mnemoc> n8 darix 00:00 < mnemoc> :( 00:00 < daja77> haha! 00:01 * mnemoc kicks mnemoc badly 00:01 < daja77> .oO (darix needs another nick) 00:01 < mnemoc> irssi needs better nick completition :D 00:02 < daja77> you can load a perl skript for that 00:02 < daja77> anyway off now 00:03 < mnemoc> n8 *daja77* 00:03 * tfing claps at mnemoc's performance =) 00:04 < mnemoc> :'( 00:04 < Aard> pineapple anyone? 00:11 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-65.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 00:12 < darix> mnemoc: irssi resorts the nicks. i was the last one you talked to. so it moved me before daja77 00:13 -!- YDS [proxyuser@104-128.dialup.itte.kz] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:13 < darix> and irssi rules :) 00:13 < darix> checkout https://www.irssi.de./ :) 00:14 < mnemoc> darix: thanks :) 00:14 -!- YDS [proxyuser@104-128.dialup.itte.kz] has joined #rocklinux 00:14 < esdentem> humm ... should I install fedora or rocklinux on this nice machine here ... 00:15 < esdentem> hmm ... I think fedora ... the stable release is more up to date then the stable rocklinux version ... 00:16 < esdentem> or perhups even gentoo? 00:16 < mnemoc> gentoo-hardened? :'( 00:16 < darix> .oO( or suse 9. )o 00:17 < esdentem> no ... suse sucks 00:17 < esdentem> it is less stable and usable then rock 00:17 < mnemoc> mandrake!! 00:17 < darix> esdentem: it doesnt :p 00:17 < darix> esdentem: it works quite fine here :p 00:17 < esdentem> no ... I had only problems with suse last time I checked 00:17 < darix> esdentem: you tried to convince me 2y ago already :p 00:17 < esdentem> and that was 9 some weeks ago 00:18 < darix> esdentem: next chance will be linux tag in in chemnitz :) 00:18 < esdentem> hehe ... I will not try to convince you 00:18 < esdentem> others may want to try it ... 00:23 < sten> mnemoc: how is the generic/minimal build coming along? 00:24 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:25 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:25 < A-Tui> hola 00:33 < darix> *svn up* 00:38 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-117.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:58 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-124.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:01 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 02:10 < mnemoc> re 02:15 < A-Tui> hola mnemoc 02:17 < mnemoc> hola A-Tui 02:21 < mnemoc> sten: finishing stage 9 03:25 < sten> mnemoc: hmm. Do you think the iso will be available within three hours? 03:25 < sten> mnemoc: (available to d/l that is) 03:25 < tsa> hm...does clifford have write access to the svn repository? 03:26 < tsa> all those pending patches are getting on my nerves. 03:29 < tsa> and maybe i should even consider sleeping at night and working during the day. 03:45 < mnemoc> sten: ready... i'll have to install dietlibc locally to finish bootdisk creation, the generate the iso, and after that upload somewhere 03:46 < mnemoc> tsa: go to sleep, they patches will still there when your wake up :p 03:46 < mnemoc> Error logs from minimal-2.0.0-rc5-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert: 03:46 < mnemoc> 461 builds total, 461 completed fine, 0 with errors. 03:46 < mnemoc> Error logs from boot-2.0.0-rc5-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert: 03:47 < mnemoc> 156 builds total, 156 completed fine, 0 with errors. 03:48 < mnemoc> [11:44:06 PM] Creating minimal-rev2366-pmmx_cd1.iso ... 03:48 < mnemoc> [11:44:31 PM] Done. Have fun! 03:49 < mnemoc> anyone knows how to upload to iso.rocklinux.de? 03:50 < darix> mnemoc: how many packages are in thie minimal thingie? 03:50 < darix> how big is the final build? 03:51 < mnemoc> # grep "^X" config/minimal/packages | wc -l 03:51 < mnemoc> 199 03:51 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 03:52 < mnemoc> # du -sh build/minimal-2.0.0-rc5-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert/root/ 03:52 < mnemoc> 1.1G build/minimal-2.0.0-rc5-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert/root 03:52 < mnemoc> a little fat :\ 03:52 < darix> mnemoc: hmm 03:53 < mnemoc> well... minimal/generic includes linux24,26, all modules, gcc33, etc... 03:53 < mnemoc> glibc23... 03:55 < darix> ic 03:55 < mnemoc> # du -sh minimal-rev2366-pmmx_* 03:55 < mnemoc> 235M minimal-rev2366-pmmx_cd1.iso.bz2 03:56 < mnemoc> 8.0K minimal-rev2366-pmmx_index.txt.bz2 03:56 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FE6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:56 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD958FEC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:56 < mnemoc> .oO( where can i upload this iso? ) 03:56 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 03:58 < mnemoc> blindcoder: do u know how to upload to iso.rl.de? 03:59 < sten> mnemoc: did you run into any snags with generic/minimal? 03:59 < mnemoc> a few, but they were solved 03:59 < sten> mnemoc: were they the one's I mentioned? 03:59 < mnemoc> sten: nope 03:59 < sten> mnemoc: weird... 04:00 < mnemoc> yeah 04:00 < sten> mnemoc: did you ever halt your build, call ./scripts/Build-Target 5-glibc, then resume it? 04:01 < sten> mnemoc: s/Build-Target/stage-foo_pkg 04:01 < mnemoc> not exactly that... i have 'rebuild broken pacakge' and 'abort on failure' set 04:02 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Build-Target -job 5-glibc to build only that 04:03 < sten> mnemoc: ah. I manually killed the build; ./scripts/Cleanup; then rebuild only glibc, because that was the only problem, then resumed the build with ./scripts/Build-Target. (it's not the proper way to halt, so could that be the issue?) 04:03 < sten> mnemoc: how would ./scripts/Build-Target respond so a SIGKILL? 04:04 < mnemoc> ^C is trapped, so you can consider it 'safe' 04:05 < tsa> ^c will cause sigint, not sigkill. 04:05 < sten> sigint? 04:05 < tsa> see signal(7) 04:06 < sten> Interupt... 04:07 < tsa> Build-Target cannot respond to sigkill at all. sigkill can't be handled. 04:07 < mnemoc> but... if you kill Build-Pkg, the worse case is 'lot of mount --bind' in src.* dir.... which are umounted by Cleanup 04:08 < tsa> sigkill means immediate termination of a process - no way to handle that. 04:08 < mnemoc> and the log as .out which is also handled 04:10 < mnemoc> sten: anywhere to upload the image? 04:10 < tsa> judging from a quick grep on the build scripts, they're only handling sigint. kill sends a sigterm when used without any specific command line options. 04:13 < mnemoc> ^C is trapped ^^ 04:14 < tsa> yes - thats sigint. 04:14 < tsa> Build-Pkg: trap 'echo "Got SIGINT (Crtl-C). Aborting build." ; exit 1' INT 04:15 < tsa> whatever. sigxcpu for me now. need sleep. 04:15 < tsa> cya. 04:15 < mnemoc> LOL! y-windows uses tla "Y--devel--0.2--patch-1 (2004-01-29) 04:15 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E11E7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 04:21 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep in 13 minutes, so... give me an ftp or http soon 04:21 < mnemoc> uhm... i guess 240M is too much for http 04:26 < sten> mnemoc: hm, the only servers I have running on my box are X11 & ssh 04:28 < sten> mnemoc: do you want to upload that iso via sftp? (since you easily could have backdoored my new installation, it is relatively low risk to give you the opportunity to corrupt my current one) 04:29 < mnemoc> sten: ok 04:30 < mnemoc> gimme the keys of your house 05:27 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-060-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:29 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p508BB105.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:40 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-060-119.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:40 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 05:44 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BACCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:58 -!- YDS [proxyuser@104-128.dialup.itte.kz] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:29 < daja77> moin 10:17 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-65.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:17 < holyolli> moin 10:33 < rxr> re 10:33 < rxr> moin all 10:33 < daja77> hi rxr 10:33 < holyolli> moin rxr, daja77 10:33 < daja77> hi holyolli 10:37 < netrunner> moin rxr, daja77, holyolli 10:37 < daja77> huhu netrunner 10:38 < netrunner> daja77: how went your makros? 10:38 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:38 < daja77> it was horrible 10:38 < netrunner> oh :( 10:39 < daja77> and yours? 10:39 < netrunner> 2.0 10:39 < daja77> cool 10:40 < netrunner> jup. forgot some buzzwords ... but still in my target area :) 10:40 < daja77> hehe 10:46 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 11:12 < rxr> Error logs from install-2.0.0-rc5-x86-i386-32-bootdisk-expert: 11:12 < rxr> 11:12 < rxr> [5] 961 base/glibc23 11:12 < rxr> 11:12 < rxr> 159 builds total, 158 completed fine, 1 with errors. 11:13 < daja77> glibc? 11:14 < sten> rxr: What do you think of this title? (it's for a Target I'm thinking of creating, which draws inspiration from Gentoo, traditional ROCK ambience from my memories of ROCK 1.4-rescue, and resources from generic/minimal; plus a bit of creativity) 11:14 < sten> EFACBOR 11:14 < sten> Environment for a Clean Build of ROCK 11:14 < rxr> daja77: see list and submaster - should be fixed now 11:15 < daja77> k. 11:15 < rxr> sten: the minimal target should qualify for this purpose 11:15 < rxr> or the minimal+xfree one even ... 11:15 < rxr> err - package selection template I meant - not target ... 11:16 < daja77> *gg* 11:16 < sten> rxr: I've had headache's building on my current system, and miss the old rescue.tar.bz2's. (when 2.0 is released, will there be generic/minimal [+xfree] iso's available?) 11:17 < rxr> sten: I would say: depends on contributors ... 11:17 < daja77> :) 11:19 < rxr> sten: if you have time to donate for a minimal build for each ROCK Linux release I would release those iso's very happily ... 11:19 < rxr> cu all later ... 11:19 < sten> rxr: ah. Well, mnemoc built a generic/minimal for me, and sftp'd it to me. Once my system is humming a stable tune, I'd be happy to help with getting a minimal iso ready 11:19 < sten> later 11:22 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit ("going to install ROCK, and start building a solid base") 12:46 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 12:56 < sten> what is the standard way to update /usr/src/rock-src to subversion (stable) trunk? 12:58 < darix> sten: trunk != stable ;) 12:59 < darix> trunk is the place where the development happens 13:02 < sten> yeah, I see that now. For some reason I though trunk was stable, because I found it on the "Download 2.0" page 13:02 < darix> sten: 2.0 is at rc5 atm :) 13:02 < darix> or rc6 13:03 < sten> darix: out of curiousity, is linux26-header a safe choice yet? 13:03 < darix> if you use a 2.6 kernel? 13:03 < sten> yeah 13:14 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:15 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:19 < holyolli> re 13:26 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-56.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:26 < mnemoc> moin 13:27 < holyolli> hi mnemoc 13:27 < mnemoc> hi holyolli 13:28 < mnemoc> sten: how was the iso? 13:29 < sten> mnemoc: I'm working on the installation right now. (trying to migrate to linux26-header) 13:31 < sten> mnemoc: err, I mean, I'm working on the running system which the installation provided. (it didn't boot, by the way. I used my 1 of 3 dROCK cd to boot to stage2) 13:36 < mnemoc> :| 13:36 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:36 < mnemoc> btw, you only need linux-header to build libc 13:39 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 13:44 < sten> mnemoc: I get tons of errors whenever I "mine -r foopackage" 13:44 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:45 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:56 < mnemoc> sten: directory not empty is a damn old bug on mine :( 13:57 < sten> mnemoc: if it only complained "/etc/foo not empty" then it would be a feature 14:03 < mnemoc> sten: it complains before removing it's files of the directories 14:03 < mnemoc> sten: /etc/* file should not get removed 14:06 < sten> mnemoc: is there any way to rebuild everything? I've cut out some unecessary cruft, and would like to remove dependencies by rebuilding 14:14 < sten> mnemoc: hmm, I'm getting errors relating to glibc. (I'm installing the glibc from rc4, to see if the problem remains constant) 14:19 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:24 -!- rxr [~rene@141.64.23.209] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 < rxr> re 14:25 < rxr> rocklinux-consulting.de moved into uni 14:25 < rxr> if you find a missing service please inform me now, since I 14:25 < rxr> 'll be away in some minutes ... 14:26 < rxr> and subversion access should now bw much faster 14:27 < rxr> due to the 100Mbit internet connect ... 14:27 < mnemoc> # svn up 14:27 < mnemoc> *updating* 14:28 < mnemoc> Updated to revision 2376. 14:28 < mnemoc> rxr: where can i upload a minimal-pmmx iso for testing? 14:29 < rxr> I have no open http/ftp write setups ... 14:29 < rxr> can I pull it somewhere 14:29 < rxr> ? 14:29 < mnemoc> nope :( 14:30 < mnemoc> sten: can you share it with sten? 14:30 < mnemoc> sten: can you share it with rxr? 14:30 < mnemoc> uhm... he is gone 14:30 < mnemoc> i sftp it to him last night... 14:31 < rxr> mnemoc: what is needed for sftp on my side? 14:31 < rxr> (I must admit I never set it up ...) 14:31 < mnemoc> just ssh2 account and a home directory 14:31 < rxr> so you can also ssh 14:32 < rxr> or can I give you a /bin/false bash? 14:32 < mnemoc> i guess so, but never tried 14:32 < mnemoc> i just use sftp between my own accounts 14:33 < mnemoc> Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server <--- this on sshd_config does the trick 14:36 -!- k3t__ [k3t@pD900576A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:44 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 14:45 < rxr> hi 14:45 < blindcoder> hi rxr 14:45 < rxr> blindcoder: btw. do you also have spare SPARC Stations? or just the IPX? 14:46 < blindcoder> praenti has all of them and some spare hardware 14:48 < rolla> re 14:49 < rxr> how may stations do you both have over there? 14:49 < blindcoder> hm... we could probbly make 4 machines 14:49 < daja77> re 14:49 < blindcoder> moin daja77 14:49 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD900575A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:50 < daja77> hi blindy 14:50 < rxr> blindcoder: do you have s.th. to do work those boxes - or could you spare one for ROCK testing? 14:51 < blindcoder> please talk with praenti about that, I don't have time for ROCK porting atm. 14:52 < holyolli> rxr: I have now an account on an ES40...and I may compile some binaries on that machine..so hopefully I can continue some work on alpha 14:52 < rxr> holyolli: great 14:53 < rxr> blindcoder: the SPARC stuff is in quite a good shape 14:53 < holyolli> does anyone of you has experience with linux-vserver? 14:53 < blindcoder> that's nice to hear, I have to install a SS20 for my employer :) 14:54 < rxr> blindcoder: I do not yet have installable media 14:54 < rxr> but could have hopefully next week 14:54 < rxr> but a sparc SS would be nice for testing ... 14:54 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-117.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:55 < blindcoder> I have 2 9GB discs in there which I'd like to set up as a RAID, so if that's possible I'd owe you a beer :) 14:56 < rxr> hm that should be no problem - the bigger problem is getting the initial files on it ... 14:56 < tfing> holyolli: mnemoc is the maintainer of vserver packages for rock 14:56 < blindcoder> booting from some other distros install media? 14:56 < mnemoc> :) 14:57 < tfing> i guess he has some knowledge then ;) 14:57 < rxr> blindcoder: this is also messy since they often miss bzip2 not to speak about mine ... 14:57 < blindcoder> hmm 14:57 < blindcoder> true 14:57 < rxr> blindcoder: I schedule a first bootable CD for SPARC as top priority for my next free hours ... 14:58 < daja77> wow 14:58 < blindcoder> rxr: don't haste yourself, that machine has at least 3 weeks time left 14:58 < blindcoder> probably more 14:58 < rxr> if there is nothing really buggy in the toolchain it could work by next week 14:58 < rxr> blindcoder: and what also such with other install media is the absense of DevFS ... 14:59 < rxr> so - but now I have to go (otherwise I 14:59 < rxr> 'll get problems with Susan ...) so see you later 14:59 < rxr> and if problems with the moved server raise up feel free to call my cellphone 14:59 < rxr> cu 15:00 < holyolli> cu2 15:00 < daja77> cu rxr 15:02 < mnemoc> cu rxr 15:03 < daja77> wrong cksum in povray O_o 15:13 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail2@p213.54.63.113.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:13 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:28 * blindcoder also gone 15:28 < blindcoder> daja77: that means new version 15:38 < mnemoc> damn clip compiler! ... it prefered my public $foo instead of the static $foo of the module of the function which call it :( 15:40 < mnemoc> a 'symbol redifined' warning could be nicer than hand tracing it for two fsking days!!! 15:46 < holyolli> hm. is it possible to compile rock as a non-root-user? 15:46 < holyolli> <-- never tried it.. 15:46 < tfing> it won't work since you need to chroot 15:46 < tfing> someone got flamed on the ml about that :) 15:46 < holyolli> ah..of couse 15:46 < holyolli> hehe 15:48 -!- waterloo [~bodo@dialin-212-144-080-212.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:51 < mnemoc> holyolli: vserver is a good place to rock if you feel unconfortable with being root 15:51 < rolla> vserver? 15:51 -!- saskatoon [~saskatoon@dialin-212-144-080-212.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 15:52 < mnemoc> like uml but without the yet-another-kernel-running overhead 15:52 < holyolli> mnemoc: i had some problems to start my vserver..i took my files/scripts from my host, but it complains about some errors in /etc/rc.d/rc 15:53 < tfing> but uml can be launched by a user, vservers should be launched by root 15:53 < mnemoc> tfing: vservers are created by root, you can make users to directly 'join' that context on login 15:54 < tfing> yep, but that can be a problem if you are not the administrator of the machine 15:55 < mnemoc> tfing: ack 15:55 < mnemoc> holyolli: vserver don't 'set the enviroment' it just receive it 15:56 < mnemoc> then most of the rc must be droped 15:56 < holyolli> mnemoc: ah 15:56 < mnemoc> holyolli: you also have to consider contexts are limited by capabilities, even for root 15:56 < mnemoc> so to do 'root' things you have to give the right capability to that context 15:57 < mnemoc> if not, root is only another user 15:57 < holyolli> mnemoc: hm. do you know any location where i can download something like a sample-vserver? 15:58 < mnemoc> holyolli: there are scripts for creating vserver from existing fedora, redhat or debian boxes 15:59 < holyolli> mnemoc: i tried them...but they didn't work under rock...(but honestly i have to say that i didn't spent a lot of time for it) 15:59 < holyolli> but i'll try 15:59 < daja77> blindcoder: new version without version change? 16:01 < mnemoc> holyolli: https://www.jvds.com/vserver/ 16:01 < holyolli> mnemoc: thx 16:05 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.91.100.27] has joined #rocklinux 16:05 < MadTux> moin. 16:05 < rolla> re 16:06 < holyolli> hola MadTux :) 16:07 < daja77> hi MadTux 16:07 * daja77 filing bugreport atm 16:08 < mnemoc> wb MadTux 16:08 < mnemoc> daja77: which bug? 16:09 < MadTux> hello rolla, alcoholly, daja77, mnemocy and everyone else :) 16:10 < tfing> j0 MadTux 16:11 < MadTux> tfing, greetings. 16:17 < daja77> bug in scripts/Download 16:18 < daja77> https://www.rocklinux.net/flyspray/?do=details&id=212 16:18 < mnemoc> daja77: can you paste in on query, my dsl is melting (sftp iso upload) :( 16:19 < mnemoc> everything times out 16:19 < daja77> done 16:20 < mnemoc> o_O 16:21 < daja77> aaaargh /me dumb 16:21 < daja77> tired or whatever 16:22 < mnemoc> are you sure (i guess so) about that wierd bug?? i see no relation between Download and Build-Tagrget 16:22 < mnemoc> hm? 16:23 < daja77> just forget about it 16:23 < daja77> closed it 16:23 < daja77> me is screwed 16:24 < daja77> at least i close tasks ... 16:24 < mnemoc> ^^ 16:24 * daja77 pissed that ypbind init script bug is still open 16:25 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.91.100.27] has quit ("Leaving") 16:28 < daja77> mnemoc: well i have some troubles like that sometimes, have to dig into that before reopen the task 16:30 < daja77> btw i get a cksum err for clip patch-1.1.8-2* 16:35 < mnemoc> unversioned crap :( [D] 3518916707 patch-1.1.8-3.tgz !... 16:36 * daja77 again porting rtai patch 16:36 < mnemoc> he send an empty mail with subject="new patch.tgz uploaded" and that's all 16:37 < daja77> this sucks 16:37 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-117.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:41 * tfing puts a curl -L https://www.distrowatch.com/rock in his crontab 16:41 < daja77> hi tfing 16:42 < tfing> hi daja77 16:44 < darix> tfing: wouldnt it be easier to sync the svn regularly? 16:44 < daja77> hehe 16:45 < tfing> darix: no, it's just to increase the number of hits per day on distrowatch for rock 16:45 < darix> tfing: release a patched emule ;) 16:45 < darix> its more effective 16:47 * daja77 does the happy dance 16:48 * darix buts the lag into daja77's way ;) 16:53 * daja77 kicks darix 16:59 < mnemoc> clip's debugger is kind of fun.... you run the app on one tty in --debug mode, and start a command line console on another tty 17:57 * rolla begins to polish his CV :) 17:58 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080269B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:00 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802F5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:01 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 18:02 < rolla> hallo blindcoder 18:05 < daja77> hi blindcoder & rolla 18:38 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit ("Leaving") 18:57 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-65.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 19:25 -!- praenti [~praenti@biersorten.dyndns.org] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:39 -!- k3t__ is now known as trekkie3k 19:43 -!- nookie [~nookie@M313P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:43 < nookie> Hola 20:02 < mnemoc> rolla: looking for new job? 20:02 < mnemoc> hola nookie 20:04 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 20:04 -!- MadTux [~mike@66.205.201.2] has joined #rocklinux 20:04 < MadTux> re 20:05 < blindy> moin MadTux! 20:05 < MadTux> hi blindy! 20:05 < mnemoc> moin MadTux 20:05 < blindy> msg nickserv HELP REGISTER 20:05 < blindy> narf 20:05 < MadTux> hehe 20:05 < MadTux> u are actually gonna stick with blindy? :) 20:06 < blindy> yes 20:06 < blindy> most people now abbreviate it like this, so I thought... what the hell 20:07 < MadTux> hehe 20:07 < blindy> also, it doesn't brand me as a geek immediately ;) 20:07 < MadTux> hahaha 20:07 < MadTux> well why do u worry.. you are not alone anymore 20:08 < MadTux> :) 20:08 < blindy> ehm 20:08 < blindy> who says that? 20:08 < blindy> after all I know, I'm still single 20:09 < MadTux> i heard u had a beauty at your place 20:09 < blindy> well... I see some beautiful girls/women sometimes, yes... 20:09 < blindy> one of those is delivering my pizza :( 20:10 < blindy> :) 20:10 < MadTux> hehehe 20:10 < MadTux> u must ask her to take the day off and stay to have fun with u 20:10 < MadTux> ;) 20:10 * MadTux Now Powered by Gentoo 20:10 * blindy ponders 20:11 < blindy> might be worth a try :) 20:11 < MadTux> hehe 20:11 < tfing> MadTux: and you're sayin' that on #rocklinux ! 20:12 < MadTux> tfing: I know. 20:12 < MadTux> but thx for pointing it out. 20:12 < tfing> ;P 20:12 < MadTux> tfing: I just won't wait any longer stable. 20:17 < MadTux> is it really such a big sin? 20:17 < MadTux> Blindy are still alive? 20:18 < blindy> blindy: sure 20:18 < blindy> I'm currently playing with a local svn-repositore 20:18 < MadTux> ah i see 20:18 < tfing> MadTux: you sure will be damned 20:18 < blindy> s/e$/y/ 20:19 < MadTux> ping mnemoc 20:19 < MadTux> tfing: not really. 20:20 < blindy> MadTux: mnemoc has autoignored you as you said "Gentoo" :) 20:21 < MadTux> blindy: well.. i was going to give him shell to my cluster.. too bad he ignored me 20:21 < fake> hi 20:22 < MadTux> hello fake 20:22 * fake at the indy 20:23 < fake> praenti wants a bootable cd, so he will get one... 20:23 < fake> ;) 20:24 < MadTux> :) 20:30 -!- esdentem_ [~esdentem@rincewind.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esdentem, th 20:34 < rolla> re 20:35 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@rincewind.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 -!- th [th@80.65.35.195] has joined #rocklinux 20:35 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: hannes, ija 20:35 -!- ija_ [[ehrUL+kQt@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: hannes 20:36 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esdentem, th 20:37 -!- Netsplit over, joins: esdentem, th 20:38 -!- saskatoon [~bodo@dialin-212-144-017-132.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:39 < mnemoc> uff... reply finished.... /me should have been an story teller in a past life 20:39 < mnemoc> MadTux: pong 20:40 < MadTux> hehe 20:40 < MadTux> hello mnemocy 20:41 < mnemoc> hello! 20:42 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:42 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esdentem, th 20:43 -!- Netsplit over, joins: th 20:43 -!- MadTux [~mike@66.205.201.2] has quit ("leaving") 20:43 < nookie> heya nmemoc 20:43 < nookie> mnemoc 20:43 < mnemoc> nookie! 20:43 < nookie> jow 20:44 -!- th_ [th@thzn.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 * mnemoc wonders if his last mail has too much implicit violence 20:47 < SMP> mnemoc: your Pharaoh metaphor is awesome ;) 20:47 < blindy> mnemoc: *lol* 20:47 < blindy> nice story :) 20:47 < mnemoc> =) 20:47 < fake> wooho. 20:47 < SMP> problem is - it doesn't apply ;) 20:47 < mnemoc> :( 20:47 < mnemoc> dammit :'( 20:47 < fake> rock on indy. 20:48 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.labs.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 20:48 < mnemoc> last thing i did on indy was irix5.3+afs :p 20:48 < armijn> heh, rock 2.0 still approaching? 20:49 < mnemoc> it's just around the corner 20:49 < armijn> well, back in my days we had 1.6 approaching! 20:49 < armijn> ah, those were the days... 20:49 < fake> mnemoc: if you're interested in bootable rock-install-cds for the indy with 8bit gfx, i could give you my paypal acc data *g* 20:49 < SMP> our subversion trunk god moved his Olymp ;) 20:49 < mnemoc> :\ 20:49 < armijn> fake: what about 24 bit gfx :) 20:50 < mnemoc> armijn: the paypal account still there :) 20:50 < fake> armijn: i doubt even SGI remembers how this hardware works 20:50 < armijn> heh, the cards are both supported by linux afaik 20:50 < armijn> and otherwise I still got IRIX...never installed that, might be a good learning experience 20:51 < fake> 24bit? no 20:51 < armijn> you sure? 20:51 < fake> the only card supported is the newport 8bit card. 20:51 < fake> absolutely 20:51 < armijn> really sure? 20:51 < fake> yes 20:51 < armijn> absolutely definitely sure? 20:51 * armijn in nag mode 20:51 < armijn> >-) 20:52 < armijn> today I had some `fun' with JDS 20:52 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: th 20:52 < armijn> btw, hi all 20:52 < mnemoc> hi armijn 20:53 -!- praenti [~praenti@biersorten.dyndns.org] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 < SMP> what the hell does kopete use linux/if_ppp.h and wireless-tools for ... 20:54 < fake> SMP: that's for the hidden trojan functionaluty 20:55 < SMP> well if you ask me, kopete is one mighty big trojan horse ... 20:55 < fake> but it supports mutiple smiley types! even themeable! 20:55 < mnemoc> considering how i know duncan i warranty you it has more than a couple of 'tricky code' 20:55 * blindy --> bed 20:55 -!- waterloo [~bodo@dialin-212-144-080-212.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 20:56 < fake> n8 blindy 20:56 < mnemoc> n8 blindcoder 20:56 < mnemoc> :p 20:56 * SMP noticed he was stupid when he made the psi 0.9 package ;) 20:56 < SMP> but it's fixed in the 0.9.1 update ;) 20:56 < armijn> heh, SMP said he's stupid... 20:56 < SMP> (which went to submaster right now) 20:57 < SMP> (and don't forget to check out the pv package! incredibly cool!) 20:57 < fake> what is pv? 20:58 < SMP> pipeviewer. connects stdin (and/or file(s) to stdout and measures volume and speed of data moving through it 20:59 < fake> SMP: could be used to gather randomness, but what other use would it be good for? 20:59 < mnemoc> SMP: why my methafor doesn't apply? 20:59 < tfing> hmm, mnemoc takes us in a egyptian trip 21:00 < praenti> netrunner || daja77: what name has the lxtag chemnitz channel? 21:00 < SMP> fake: to monitor an generate_lots_of_data | process_data operation 21:01 < fake> ah... 21:01 < SMP> only thing missing is an option for counting lines (think tar -v | pv) 21:03 < fake> i still have no clue what i could use that for, but i'll check it out ;) 21:03 < daja77> #rock-lxtagchem 21:04 < SMP> mnemoc: because Clifford didn't tell Rene to build 'his' pyramid 21:04 < praenti> daja77: thx. i had to reboot my ultra1... 21:04 < daja77> :) 21:04 < fake> this sounds like i should check my mail 21:04 < SMP> mnemoc: Rene is free to build it as he wants 21:05 < mnemoc> SMP: ic 21:06 < mnemoc> it was a 'build me a gift' or a 'build me your dream'? 21:07 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.labs.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 21:09 < SMP> mnemoc: more like 'build what you think is good' 21:11 < mnemoc> well... it changes a bit my impression but the job is equally ambiguous 21:13 < SMP> hmm, kopete still sucks 21:15 < mnemoc> neither a great community can change the impact of a complete lame 'project leader' on a project 21:15 < mnemoc> .oO( FYI i'm taliing about kopete ) 21:17 < SMP> what wrong with the kopete people? 21:17 < mnemoc> only duncan mac vicar 21:17 < mnemoc> i have had a amazing expirence of working with him 21:17 < mnemoc> more than a few time 21:19 < mnemoc> thinking a bit about i guess he is the only person i really hate on my university 21:20 < SMP> oh! I didn't notice he's from Chile 21:21 < fake> go beat him up ;) 21:22 < mnemoc> i have been really close to that two times but did control my instincts :p 21:22 < fake> you sound vulcan 21:22 < mnemoc> =) 21:35 -!- ija_ is now known as ija 21:36 -!- nookie [~nookie@M313P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:40 < daja77> :) 22:31 * netrunner just gave beginners lession in iso/osi 22:32 < mnemoc> network's layers stuff?? 22:36 < netrunner> jup. my gf wanted to know how to build up her own pc, and how network communication works :=) 22:36 < fake> Please Do Not Throw Salami Pizza Away 22:37 < fake> P D N T S P A ;) 22:38 < mnemoc> =) 22:38 < netcrow> OSI/ISO? 22:39 < netcrow> nice ;) 22:40 * netrunner gave her a pc she will install linux on it tomorrow :) 22:44 < mnemoc> netrunner: what linux? 22:49 < netrunner> mnemoc: probably knoppix, because it's the mmx that won't boot our install cds :( 22:55 * fake building qt33/kde32 22:56 < fake> any reason why it's not in the default trunk? 22:58 < mnemoc> it's a branch, and it's waiting rene's return to get merged 23:15 < fake> soll ich dir ein typisches stage2 schicken? 23:15 < fake> uh 23:15 < mnemoc> :( 23:16 < fake> that was ment to be in a query. 23:16 < netrunner> mnemoc: "shall I send you a typical stage2" ... obviously wrong channel ;) 23:17 < netrunner> fake: ;) 23:17 < mnemoc> yep :) 23:17 < fake> not really, it is a rock stage2 i'm talking about, bootdisk target 23:21 < netrunner> hm ... https://www.bewilders.us/photos/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Bewildering_Pics&id=budget48 23:23 < netcrow> is a p4-optimized iso available? 23:24 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-117.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:31 < netrunner> netcrow: I have one here, but's not the latest ... built it for my laptop, it's like -rc2 or so 23:32 < netcrow> hmhm 23:32 < netcrow> hm, i can wait ;-) 23:42 -!- MadTux [~mike@66.205.201.2] has joined #rocklinux 23:43 < MadTux> hello 23:43 < MadTux> daja77: awake 23:43 < fake> kde 3.2 has an XRandR app 23:43 < fake> i can rotate my display *rofl* 23:48 -!- MadTux [~mike@66.205.201.2] has quit ("leaving") 23:50 < netcrow> me too, physical ;-) --- Log closed Sat Feb 21 00:00:33 2004