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--- Log opened Tue Feb 24 00:00:16 2004 01:51 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.94.114] has joined #rocklinux 01:53 -!- aXp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-73.utaonline.at] has quit ("leaving") 01:55 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit ("reproducing lots of latency") 01:58 < batok> Can anybody help me on setting up bind ( named ) to act as a resolver ( I am using drock rc3 ) 02:06 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.94.114] has left #rocklinux () 02:18 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netcrow, blindy, Freak, fake, owl, __spectre__, darix, praenti, rxr, holyolli, (+7 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 02:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: SMP, clifford, Freak, netcrow, holyolli 02:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ija 02:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc, owl 02:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 02:23 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:23 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.161.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:23 -!- __spectre__ [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has joined #rocklinux 02:23 -!- fake [~fake@f4k3.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:23 -!- praenti [~praenti@biersorten.dyndns.org] has joined #rocklinux 02:25 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50803431.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:25 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005757.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:25 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958F7BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:41 < tfing> hmmm, anyone who tested crm114 or dspam in here ? 02:54 -!- ctp_ [~ctp@dsl-082-083-229-109.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:56 < ctp_> are rocklinux and gentoo comparable? i use gentoo but the updates of the ebuilds are not acceptable by me. does rock also update the packages so often? 02:58 < tfing> less often i think 02:59 < tfing> since only one person can accept patches and write to the rock sources tree 03:07 < darix> ctp_: just for my curiosity: why are ebuild updates not acceptable for you? 03:20 < ctp_> darix: they update every week about 20 packages. so every week an update and reconfiguring the conffiles isnt acceptable. 03:20 < darix> ctp_: dont run update this often? 03:20 < darix> or only update manually package you want 03:20 < darix> ctp_: emerge -u iirc 03:21 < ctp_> but installing a new app resolves dependencies and need newer verions installed. 03:22 < rolla> re 03:22 < ctp_> i see, you use gentoo. did you get the python problem 2 weeks ago. since then nothing works properly. 03:22 < rolla> darix: how is it going? 03:23 < rolla> funny 3 gentoo people in rocklinux 03:23 < ctp_> ;-) 03:23 < darix> ctp_: rocklinux wouldnt help you there either 03:23 < darix> if a programm needs newer files rocklinux has to update them too 03:23 < rolla> yeah 03:24 < darix> rolla: im not a gentoo user. my coworker is. and i learned some basics while watching him installing his athlon64 03:24 < darix> :) 03:24 < ctp_> i use it. but i'm little depressed. i have to maintain 4 workstations and 2 servers running gentoo. i hate these updates ... 03:24 < darix> i'm a proud suse user. 03:24 < rolla> ;) 03:24 < darix> ctp_: install a proxy on one of them 03:24 < jsaw> i used to be a proud suse user. 03:24 < rolla> darix: I am a proud gentoo user 03:24 < darix> ctp_: and i was told gentoo builds interims binary builds 03:24 < jsaw> hehe 03:25 < darix> ctp_: so build on one box installing on many boxes should be possible 03:25 * rolla use to use redhat 03:25 < darix> if all boxes have a similar package installation 03:25 < darix> rolla: suse is the better redhat ;p 03:25 < rolla> I am sure 03:25 < rolla> I got very sick of redhat 03:26 < ctp_> darix: the server are running pure x86, the pc's mixed x86 & ~x86. 03:27 < darix> ctp_: so build for both servers on one of them and install binaries on the other. 03:27 < ctp_> i think i switch back to the roots i grew up: debian. this summer sid will be released as stable. 03:27 < darix> the same for the workstations. one build. the rest uses binary install 03:27 < darix> doesnt sound hard 03:27 < darix> ctp_: sid will never be released 03:27 < darix> sarge will be released ;p 03:27 < darix> sid is always unstable. as i learned 03:28 < ctp_> darix: the hw is not the same. athlon64 & pentium4 on servers and duron, athlon, p3 ws. installing crosscompiled sources with the hw-optimization doesnt work i suppose. 03:28 < darix> ctp_: than suffer from compiling n-times ;) 03:29 < darix> ctp_: but at least theproxy can save a bit bandwidth :) 03:29 < ctp_> darix: it's late ;-) of course sarge. i was now on the sid package size to see what kernel they use ;-) 03:30 < darix> ctp_: make-kpkg ;p 03:31 < ctp_> darix: bandwidth isnt a prob. i think i was born to take debian ;-) but never tried rock. only saw it on some machines. 03:31 < rolla> ctp_: rock is much better than debian 03:31 < rolla> but then again I am not much for debian 03:31 < darix> ctp_: after debian fscking their own dependencies 3 times in a row and rendering my apache crashing i switched all boxes to suse. 03:32 < ctp_> darix: yaeh, i know make-kpkg ;-) i read now on debianplanet.org that sarge will be released with kernel 2.6 this summer. but now 2.6 is only in sid. 03:32 < ctp_> rolla: whats the concept of rock in one sentence ? 03:33 < jsaw> and the standard answer is: 03:33 < rolla> abulity to build exactly what you want configured how you want and optomised how you want 03:33 < ctp_> darix: but you didnt take woody but mixing them 3 ? 03:34 < darix> ctp_: i installed clean sarge 03:34 < jsaw> with a "kiss" build system if I may add 03:35 < ctp_> i think it would be great if every distribution would be installed outside on a public vserver, so everyone could play with (incl. shell). gentoo-hardened has one. 03:35 < rolla> yeah 03:35 < darix> ctp_: there are a lot of knoppix likes 03:36 < darix> for many distros 03:36 < darix> :) 03:36 < darix> checked them out all? 03:37 < ctp_> darix: yeah, the gentoo livecd will be released next week. but many of them doesnt have such a livecd. 03:37 < darix> Wrote: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586/irssi-0.8.9-4.i586.rpm 03:37 < darix> Wrote: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586/irssi-silc-plugin-1.0.1-4.i586.rpm 03:37 < darix> Wrote: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586/irssi-modules-0.8.9-4.i586.rpm 03:37 < ctp_> never tried slack for example 03:37 < rolla> darix: I am jsut getting ready to emerge irssi for my laptop 03:38 < darix> https://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixCustomizations 03:38 < darix> rolla: i just build irssi + silcplugin + some modules :) 03:38 < rolla> silcplugin? 03:38 < darix> https://www.penguin-breeder.org/silc/ 03:39 < ctp_> i like a system running for 3-4 years properly without reinstalling. so no chance for mainstream distros. 03:41 < ctp_> someone of you using *bsd on a laptop ? 03:41 < darix> ctp_: you can run any linux this long 03:41 < rolla> darix: do you know if there is a eboild for silc? 03:41 < darix> you just have to install the security upgrade 03:41 < darix> +s 03:42 < darix> and dont whine if your system is too old than you want to install some newer program 03:42 < darix> ;) 03:42 < darix> https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=silc+ebuild 03:42 < darix> more than one ;) 03:43 < darix> rolla: you are sure its not in the base? 03:43 < rolla> no idea 03:43 < rolla> how do I check? 03:43 < ctp_> darix: never saw a suse running > 2 years. and whats with all the rh8, rh9 installations not supported now? 03:43 < darix> rolla: emerge -s silc 03:43 < jsaw> i have a suse running over 2+ years. 03:44 < darix> ctp_: a friend upgraded his suse from 6.2 to 7.3 03:44 < rolla> ah 03:44 < darix> and imagine that was longer than 2y 03:46 < ctp_> darix: without dependencies trouble ? 03:47 < darix> ctp_: yes 03:48 < ctp_> i never saw a machine updated without trouble gcc 2.9->3. 03:48 < darix> ctp_: 7.x doesnt use gcc 3 03:50 < ctp_> ah, ok. it's long time ago i saw the last suse box. the last i used was 5.2 ;-) 03:51 < darix> really a base for comparing with recent distros :) 03:51 -!- blindy_ [~blindcode@pD9E4F5C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:53 < rolla> darix: how do I reload the irssi binary without exiting? 03:54 < darix> /upgrade 03:55 < rolla> re 03:55 < ctp_> after suse i took mandrake. but the problem was all the mandrake groups and all the hints i found via google were in french ;-) so i took debian but have to maintain some pc's running rh(fedore) and several suse versions. but never looked for the exect version number ;-) 03:55 < rolla> ctp where are you in the world? 03:58 < darix> rolla: if you properly /upgraded 03:58 < darix> -d 03:58 < darix> irssi tells you disconnect/connect 03:58 < darix> but you arent disconnected at all 03:58 < rolla> yeah 03:59 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958F7BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:59 -!- blindy_ is now known as blindy 04:00 < ctp_> rolla: germany. why ? 04:00 < rolla> just wondering 04:00 < rolla> if I was still the only non-german here 04:01 < darix> lol 04:02 < rolla> what? 04:02 < jsaw> rolla: :) 04:02 < darix> rolla: nothing =) 04:02 < rolla> :) 04:02 < ctp_> darix: i see. a student like me having 'vorlesugsfreie zeit' ? ;-)) 04:02 * rolla is the only american that hangs out here most of the time 04:03 < darix> ctp_: no. i work 04:03 < ctp_> ah, ok. i see the uni-rostock ;-) 04:04 < darix> yes. i admin this box. and i use it as my irc shell =) 04:06 < rolla> uni-rostock ? was ist das? 04:08 < ctp_> someone here from the germans participating in 'linux tag chemnitz'? i saw rock is there. 04:08 < ctp_> rolla: university of rostock 04:08 < darix> rolla: university of rostock 04:08 < jsaw> university of rostock (www.{uni-,}rostock.de) 04:08 < rolla> ach so 04:08 < jsaw> hehe 04:08 < darix> jsaw: www.rostock.de is the site of the city of rostock. :) 04:09 < jsaw> darix: he should also get an impression of the city :) 04:09 < darix> oh 04:09 < darix> :) 04:11 < ctp_> jsaw: regards to heidelberg ;-) 04:11 < jsaw> :) 04:12 < rolla> night all time for bed 04:13 < ctp_> jsaw: it should be the city of my choice i wanted study medicine. but no chance to get a place :-( 04:13 < ctp_> rolla: n8 04:13 < jsaw> ctp_: hmm, where are you? 04:13 < jsaw> cu rolla 04:14 < ctp_> jsaw: tu braunschweig. medicine & computer science. 04:15 < jsaw> sounds interesting. 04:15 < ctp_> jsaw: yeah, it is ;-) 04:16 < jsaw> ctp_: here in our new "sychrotron centre" in the hospital they have only physicists for calculating the right dose and directions... 04:17 < jsaw> ctp_: how far are you? 04:17 < ctp_> jsaw: i was for 6 months at cern in zurich. i know these species ;-) 04:17 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.161.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:18 * jsaw loves CERN 04:18 < jsaw> I was there as summer stundent. 04:18 < jsaw> ...long time ago... 04:18 < ctp_> jsaw: 11 semester. i think in 2 semesters i earn my money ;-) 04:19 < jsaw> earn money. oh. I'd also like to earn money. 04:19 < ctp_> jsaw: you are working as scientific researcher in heidelberg ? 04:20 < jsaw> doctoral thesis. building a miniature two-photon laser scanning microscope for freely moving rats. 04:20 < ctp_> where were you at cern and what did you make ? 04:20 < ctp_> jsaw: sounds nice ;-) 04:21 < jsaw> at CERN I did some simulations of some detector type 04:22 < jsaw> (some small hut, I could show you but don't ask me for names) 04:22 < ctp_> it's a small world ;-) 04:22 < jsaw> yep. 04:23 < ctp_> so, you are the proud suse user ? ;-) 04:24 < ctp_> i'm spoilt for choice. debian, slackware, *bsd, ... 04:24 < jsaw> I've been a proud suse user. I switched to Rock. Only my workstation in the lab is still SuSE. 04:25 < jsaw> (The only linux computer in the department.) 04:26 < jsaw> My boss wanted a homogenous MS env. Resistance was not futile. 04:26 < ctp_> ;-) 04:27 < ctp_> ok. i go to bed now. 10 o'clock i have to stand up. n8. 04:28 < jsaw> Family is out of town, so is my boss. I'll go to the lab around 14.00 hehe 04:28 < jsaw> cu ctp_ 04:28 < ctp_> good luck becoming doctor ;-) 04:28 < jsaw> thanks. 04:30 < jsaw> ctp_: have a look at www.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de 04:31 < jsaw> ctp_: sometimes we have jobs for med guys with skillz 04:32 < ctp_> alles klar ;-) 04:32 < jsaw> (ich bin in der Bio-med. Optik) 04:33 < jsaw> darix: alive? 04:33 < darix> jsaw: schlafen tu ich nicht. 04:34 < jsaw> darix: admin, he? bofh? 04:34 < darix> jsaw: proud bofh :) 04:34 < jsaw> (I love our bofh.) 04:35 -!- ctp_ [~ctp@dsl-082-083-229-109.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux ("Leaving") 04:35 < darix> jsaw: alias slay='su -c "kill -9 -1" $1' 04:35 < darix> :D 04:35 < darix> thats one of mine 04:36 < jsaw> whats about "lart"? 04:36 < darix> what do you mean? 04:36 < jsaw> do you also have an alias for that? 04:37 < jsaw> come on, you know what "lart" is, or? 04:37 < darix> no 04:37 < darix> i only know lartc.org ;) 04:38 < darix> and we use it quite much here :) 04:38 < jsaw> luser attitude readjustment tool 04:38 < darix> oh 04:38 < darix> hmm 04:38 < darix> on the forum or channels i have ban 04:38 < jsaw> https://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/l/LART.html 04:39 < darix> for irssi: /alias KBIG kickban $0 $1-;ignore $0 CTCPS MSGS DCCS NOTICES 04:39 < darix> :D 04:39 < jsaw> me :! bias 04:40 < darix> /alias lamerball kick $0 $1-;invite $0 04:40 < darix> *gg* 04:43 < jsaw> our bofh also has a great alias: alias kill=reboot, the problem however is 04:44 < darix> o.O 04:44 < jsaw> nobody knows/understands that the machine doesn't have to rebooted if one process takes the machine, so 04:44 < darix> lol 04:44 < jsaw> the to be annoyed user will never understand ... 04:45 < jsaw> but at least /me rotfl 04:46 < darix> the most important irssi alias: /alias quit echo dont do this at home 04:46 < jsaw> :) 04:48 < darix> ok 04:48 < darix> finally new irssi package is done :) 04:55 < darix> irssi v0.8.9 (20031210.2316) - I'm proud to use irssi. - https://irssi.org/ 04:55 < darix> finally the stable back 04:55 < darix> cvs is too broken atm 04:57 < jsaw> me needs sleep, cu darix 04:57 < darix> cya jsaw 04:58 < jsaw> gn8 05:22 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.177.99] has joined #rocklinux 05:23 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.153.172.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:48 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.177.99] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:20 -!- Baldzius [~user@213.226.136.82] has joined #rocklinux 07:20 < Baldzius> moin 07:56 -!- tfing_ [tfing@shagwell.vry.sgsnet.se] has joined #rocklinux 07:58 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.vry.sgsnet.se] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:07 -!- Baldzius [~user@213.226.136.82] has quit () 09:49 < blindy> moin 10:44 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit ("Leaving") 10:48 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 10:58 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522765.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:39 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 11:58 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:58 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 12:06 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12:20 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit ("Leaving") 12:20 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 13:47 -!- axp [~axp@dsl-wien1-34-108.utaonline.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:48 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BA92B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:49 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:49 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 14:00 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508B9E30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:01 < daja77> .oO (#rocklinux-flood) 14:35 < rolla> re 14:35 < daja77> wb rolla 14:36 < rolla> thanks 14:38 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD900577D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:45 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005757.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:49 -!- __spectre__ [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:58 * rolla is bored 15:05 -!- spectre [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has joined #rocklinux 15:11 < spectre> re 15:27 < holyolli> re 15:29 -!- axp is now known as aXp 15:45 -!- aXp_ [Default@dsl-wien1-34-108.utaonline.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:45 -!- aXp [~axp@dsl-wien1-34-108.utaonline.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:46 -!- aXp_ [Default@dsl-wien1-34-108.utaonline.at] has quit (Client Quit) 16:04 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 16:07 < rolla> hmm is there a channel for dns 16:14 < darix> rolla: you only need oreilly bind & dns book 16:14 < rolla> I have it 16:14 < rolla> just was going to ask a question 16:16 < darix> rolla: just ask 16:17 < rolla> darix: moment I might have my answer :) 16:20 < rolla> darix: I am unable to get reverse lookup on 192.168.x.x ipaddress 16:20 < rolla> ** server can't find 230.2.168.192.in-addr.arpa: SERVFAIL 16:20 < darix> zone "35.168.192.in-addr.arpa" in { 16:20 < darix> type master; 16:20 < darix> file "35.168.192.zone"; 16:20 < darix> allow-transfer { none; }; 16:20 < darix> }; 16:20 < darix> you have something like thatin your named.conf? 16:22 < rolla> yeah I found it I mispelled a dman zone file name 16:22 < alanjwylie> what's in your 35.168.192.zone file? 16:22 * rolla feels dumb now 16:22 < darix> cat /var/lib/named/35.168.192.zone 16:22 < darix> $TTL 1W 16:22 < darix> @ IN SOA hydrogen.pixalized.technet. root.linux.taugt.net. ( 16:23 < darix> 200203201 ; serial (d. adams) 16:23 < darix> 2D ; refresh 16:23 < darix> 4H ; retry 16:23 < darix> 6W ; expiry 16:23 < darix> 1W ) ; minimum 16:23 < darix> IN NS hydrogen.pixalized.technet. 16:23 < darix> 1 IN PTR h2.pixalized.technet. 16:23 < darix> 2 IN PTR o2.pixalized.technet. 16:23 < darix> 3 IN PTR n2.pixalized.technet. 16:24 -!- spectre [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 16:25 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@p5082085E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:34 < alanjwylie> sorry - got carried away reading this week's BOFH in TheRegister. 16:34 < alanjwylie> one of the better ones :-) 16:34 < alanjwylie> https://www.theregister.co.uk/content/22/35786.html 16:35 < alanjwylie> remember to update your sequence number if you edit a zone file. 16:35 < alanjwylie> looks as if your 35.168.192.zone hasn't been changed for almost 2 years 16:36 < darix> alanjwylie: yes. as i dont use the subnet anymore :) 16:36 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@p5082085E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:36 < alanjwylie> your zone file looks OK at a first glance 16:37 < alanjwylie> only difference from mine is I have TTL values in each line 16:37 < alanjwylie> here's mine: 16:38 < alanjwylie> # cat 192.168.0.zone 16:38 < alanjwylie> @ 1D IN SOA localnameserver.localnet. alan.frogtrade.com. ( 16:38 < alanjwylie> 2004020200 ; serial 16:38 < alanjwylie> 2M ; refresh 16:38 < alanjwylie> 1M ; retry 16:38 < alanjwylie> 1W ; expiry 16:38 < alanjwylie> 1D ) ; minimum 16:38 < alanjwylie> 1D IN NS localnameserver.localnet. 16:38 < alanjwylie> 1 1D IN PTR frogapp.localnet. 16:38 < alanjwylie> 2 1D IN PTR frogweb.localnet. 16:38 < alanjwylie> 3 1D IN PTR frogconnect.localnet. 16:39 < alanjwylie> btw, when you change your serial number from 42, you should have deleted the (d. adams) comment ;-) 16:39 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has joined #rocklinux 16:39 < alanjwylie> you seem to have terminating dots on all your domain names, which is good 16:47 -!- __spectre__ [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has joined #rocklinux 16:47 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:06 < daja77> nice kernel headers are broken 17:11 < rolla> really 17:11 < daja77> the package itself works ... 17:12 < daja77> In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:17, 17:12 < daja77> from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:22, 17:12 < daja77> from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h:10, 17:12 < daja77> from main.c:10: 17:12 < daja77> /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:94:26: mach_apicdef.h: No such file or directory 17:12 < daja77> grmpf 17:13 * holyolli has currently a problem compiling xfree - bits/mathcalls.h makes some strange problems...has anyone experienced that also? 17:20 < rolla> holyolli: on your alpha? 17:20 * rolla wants to shoot his celron server 17:20 < rolla> too slow 17:20 < holyolli> rolla: nope. on a normal x86 17:20 < holyolli> i'm trying to build blindcoder's lvp 17:26 < rolla> ah 17:29 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has quit ("Changing server") 17:29 -!- darix [darix@dot.irssi.be] has joined #rocklinux 17:31 < rolla> wb darix 17:31 < darix> re 17:31 < darix> :) 17:31 < darix> just changed hostname 17:31 < rolla> :) 17:32 < daja77> do we have a working linux for alpha atm? 17:33 < holyolli> no 17:33 < rolla> :( 17:33 < holyolli> the glibc makes serious problems and i'm thinking of switching back to 2.2 17:33 < daja77> O_o 17:33 < holyolli> even all alphas in the hp-testbed have that version running 17:34 < holyolli> i got an account to test those machines there some days ago 17:35 < holyolli> daja77: rolla is sending me some disks so i have space to compile a bit more :) 17:35 < rolla> :) 17:35 < daja77> is their a place in the net where you can order ready distros for alpha? 17:36 < holyolli> redhat, debian and gentoo 17:36 < daja77> rh doesn't do it anymore iirc 17:36 < holyolli> Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) 17:36 < holyolli> Kernel 2.4.9-32.5smp on an alpha 17:36 < holyolli> that one..that is the newest from rh 17:37 -!- darix- [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 -!- darix [darix@dot.irssi.be] has quit ("Changing server") 17:38 -!- darix- is now known as darix 17:38 < holyolli> in which svn revision did we use glibc-2.2.4 last? 17:38 < daja77> svn log? 17:42 < holyolli> can't find anything there..but perhaps i'm searching the wrong way 17:43 < daja77> :) 17:43 < daja77> guess it was before we switched to subversion 17:44 < holyolli> i think, i download some releases and search in them... ;-/ 17:44 < rolla> hmm vserver doesn't seem to like 2.6 kernel 17:45 < daja77> nobody likes it ^^ 17:45 < rolla> daja77: I love that kernel 17:45 < rolla> it made every server I put it on faster 17:45 < daja77> i mean the drivers don't like it 17:45 < rolla> hmm odd 17:45 < rolla> all the drivers I use work great even my wifi ones 17:47 < daja77> openafs, some audio drivers and stuff 17:51 < rolla> yeah 18:14 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p508032FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:22 < blindy> holyolli: bits/mathcalls.h ? there should be a patch in LVP to workaround that problem 18:23 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50803431.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:24 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 18:24 * blindy gone 18:29 < holyolli> blindy: thanks a lot! 18:52 -!- theDevil- [~X@3E6B27F3.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #rocklinux 19:06 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.250] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.153.172.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:16 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.250] has left #rocklinux () 20:11 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 20:12 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.153.172.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:23 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900577D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze űda brí-tenkoR") 20:23 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900577D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@p5082085E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 -!- __spectre__ [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:44 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has quit ("stupid nickserv") 20:44 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:09 -!- genbie [~genbie7@host81-129-12-154.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:09 < genbie> hi 22:09 < genbie> does ROCK run on Apple G5? 22:30 < rolla> genbie: 22:31 < rolla> I think the answer is no 22:31 < rolla> but rxr would no for sure 22:31 < rolla> s/no/know/ 22:32 < genbie> thx rolla 22:33 < daja77> yeah rxr, where is he 22:33 < rolla> np 22:33 < genbie> i am trying to choose a source-based dist 22:33 < rolla> is G5 ppc? 22:33 < genbie> can't choose easily 22:33 < daja77> yes but 64bit 22:33 < genbie> yes 970 ppc 22:33 < genbie> yes 64 bit 22:34 < genbie> it came out end of june 2003 22:34 < genbie> shipped end of august 22:34 < daja77> if you could supply hw to test it? 22:34 < rolla> yeah I know I just could not remember if it was ppc based as well 22:34 < genbie> lol i will buy one soon 22:34 < rolla> oh 22:34 < genbie> daja77 i wish i had one 22:34 < daja77> :) 22:34 < rolla> you a mac head? 22:35 < rolla> why not go for athlon 64 to get 64 bit goodness :) 22:35 < genbie> i am going to convert into one soon lol 22:35 < genbie> bcz i want to toy with embedded development and the ppc is scalable to both desktop and embedded 22:36 < rolla> I see 22:37 < genbie> you have experience with other source distros? 22:39 < rolla> I use gentoo as well 22:39 < genbie> cool 22:39 < genbie> rolls how do they compare? 22:40 < genbie> i nticed the documentation on gentoo is superb 22:40 < rolla> yes it is very nice but finding the printer friendly version keeps getting harder 22:40 < genbie> lol 22:41 < genbie> rolla you know about onebase? 22:46 < rolla> nope 22:47 < genbie> ok 22:47 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522765.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 22:53 -!- genbie [~genbie7@host81-129-12-154.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #rocklinux () 23:36 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@80-28-218-87.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:39 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") --- Log closed Wed Feb 25 00:00:30 2004