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--- Log opened Tue Mar 02 00:00:55 2004
01:19 < daja77> re
01:20 < jsaw_> re
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01:20 < jsaw> hi there
01:20 < daja77> mnemoc: was not really a party, just went away with some friends
01:20 < daja77> talking about weird stuff
01:20 < daja77> hi jsaw 
01:20 < jsaw> hi daja77 
01:21 < jsaw> daja77: u had problems with libsdl update?
01:21 < daja77> yes
01:21 < jsaw> what?
01:21 < daja77> all other libsdl packages haven't found libsdl package
01:21 < daja77> rev 2389
01:22 < daja77> updated now, needed the evening for doenloads, and just restarted a new build
01:22 < jsaw> strange, everythings works as expected here...?
01:22 < daja77> this is good
01:23 < daja77> maybe i have a chance to use rock for games demonstration on the weekend then
01:23 < skunk2k> will rock solve the dependencies ?
01:24 < jsaw> (everything means of course, that I still have compile probs with gcc 3.3.3, but stuff like flightgear is build)
01:24 < daja77> cool
01:24 < daja77> what do you mean
01:24 < skunk2k> me?
01:24 < daja77> yes
01:25 < daja77> solve dependencies in what way
01:25 < skunk2k> if i add kdebase to the package list will rock build kdelibs and everything else automatically?
01:26 < daja77> you mean before a build?
01:26 < skunk2k> yea
01:26 < daja77> afaik no
01:26 < skunk2k> k
01:27 < skunk2k> i added about 30 packages with all dependencies and pressed the wrong key :/
01:27 < skunk2k> everything lost :(
01:27 < skunk2k> and i cant remember... damn
01:28 < skunk2k> now i have about 80 packages gg
01:28 < daja77> dep_db.txt should give you hints about dependencies
01:28 < daja77> if i tell crap beat me, i am tired
01:29 < skunk2k> i viewed every cache file...
01:29 < skunk2k> lot of work :/
01:29 < skunk2k> and i think i forgot a lot of files :(
01:30 < skunk2k> and after that check the dependencies of each dependencie damn it
01:30 < daja77> not the cache files
01:30 < skunk2k> the deps are in it listed...
01:30 < skunk2k> ah damn it its late and my english sucks
01:30 < skunk2k> :(
01:31 < daja77> yes they are, but dep_db.txt is just one file
01:31 < skunk2k> jep...
01:31 < skunk2k> too late..
01:32 < daja77> :)
01:32 < skunk2k> :p
01:32 < skunk2k> i spend about 2 hrs to view every file damn
01:32 < skunk2k> and i guess i forgot the half...
01:32 < skunk2k> argh
01:35 < daja77> n8 you all
01:35 < skunk2k> n8
01:36 < skunk2k> hm...
01:53 < jsaw> n8 daja77 
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02:11 < skunk2k> n8
02:14 < jsaw> gn8 skunk2k 
02:18 < skunk2k> how can i delete a builded package ?
02:19 < jsaw> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg $config -remove $i
02:19 < skunk2k> thx
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06:53 < netrunner> moin
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08:21 < netrunner> svn: Won't delete locally modified directory 'package'
08:22 < netrunner> *g* https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3523303.stm
08:53 < blindy> moin
08:57 < blindy> fake is starting to get on my nerves... maybe he should read mails to the end for once...
09:07 < SMP> to sum it up: this whole cryptoloop stuff should be avoided and util-linux 2.12 is broken. have been completely satisfied with loop-aes ...
09:08 < blindy> SMP: indeed, I'm using loop-aes for my private disks as well as for LVP
09:09 < blindy> but loop-aes adds another patch to util-linux, linux24 and linux26 and I doubt rxr will find that funny
09:09 < SMP> no, well, the kernel patches should not be in the tree in any case
09:10 < SMP> I keep only the util-linux in my tree, that is sufficient
09:11 < blindy> guess I will find a solution while integrating lvp into ROCK
09:12 < SMP> rock-trunk should probably stay clear of all this until there is something that works without compromise or creating a mess
09:12 < blindy> dm-crypto should... more or less
09:14 < SMP> blindy: I guess it would be viable to create a loop-aes package that includes a binary kernel module for the default kernel (making sure that loop is disabled in the linux packages) and the source needed to build the module for a kernel upgrade
09:14 < SMP> and of course hook in the patch to util-linux only if the loop-aes package is enabled
09:15 < blindy> SMP: that latter one can be easily done with a pkg_linux24_post.conf file...
09:15 < blindy> SMP: the former one also shouldn't pose a big problem
09:15 < blindy> I'll keep that in mind
09:16 < SMP> no, none of that is a problem and it's not intrusive
09:16 < SMP> the downside is that the linux package alone won't include loop support
09:17 < blindy> SMP: it won't include loop-aes support
09:18 < SMP> no, it can't include any loop driver if loop-aes contains the loop.o (loop.ko) module
09:19 < blindy> shared files problem...
09:20 < SMP> no. loop-aes installs its loop.o to a different location than the kernel would
09:21 < blindy> so it would be a compile-time only option
09:21 < SMP> huh?
09:23 < blindy> applying the loop-aes patch compile time into the kernel or not
09:24 < SMP> no, there is no reason to patch the linux source
09:24 < SMP> loop-aes compiles its loop module outside the linux source tree
09:25 < blindy> not necessarily, but not having any loop support in our standard kernel at all isn't acceptable
09:25 < blindy> or we make the loop-aes package X
09:27 < SMP> look, it's easy: if loop-aes enabled ; then disable loop support in linux; enable patch to util-linux ; build loop module in loop-aes package ; else
09:28 < SMP> kernel's loop driver remains active ; util-linux doesn't get patched ; loop-aes won't get built ; fi
09:29 < blindy> d'oh... sounds reasonable
09:30 < SMP> the thing is, it is vital to also install the loop-aes source so the user can easily rebuild the module if she builds a custom or updated kernel
09:32 < blindy> personally I'm no friend of installing the source of external kernel modules in case _someone decides to not use its distributions packages_ anymore
09:32 < blindy> because these people usually know what they do
09:33 < blindy> but oh well... I don't really care
09:33 < blindy> or at least not enough :)
09:33 < SMP> well, it's about not using the dist. kernel, not any other random package
09:34 < SMP> custom kernel upgrades are not so uncommon and should not be made more annoying by having to hunt down some extern module's source
09:35 < SMP> if it was about the glibc package then I would agree, but not in case of the kernel
09:35 < blindy> okay, I'll split the package up into loop-aes and loop-aes-src
09:36 < SMP> wenn in _that_ case you can build loop-aes-src before the linux kernel and in the linux package build a loop-aes loop module and include it
09:36 < SMP> that sounds even better
09:38 < blindy> you mean something like [ -f /usr/src/loop-aes/loop.c.24 ] && cp /usr/src/loop-aes/loop.c.24 $builddir/drivers/block/loop/ or wherever it is?
09:40 < SMP> well either that or simply make -C /usr/src/loop-aes make install clean
09:41 < blindy> that is better, since it doesn't "dirty" the kernelsource
09:49 < blindy> same goes for the loop_{blowfish,twofish,serpent} modules then
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10:08 < holyolli> moin
10:09 < blindy> moin moin
10:09 < holyolli> hi blindy :)
10:19 < netrunner> 2nd rocklinux server @work.
10:54 < netrunner> anybody here in the mood telling me what `svn up` means with "svn: Won't delete locally modified directory 'package'"
10:55 < daja77> kde repo?
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10:59 < SMP> netrunner: svn sucks and sm only makes it worse :-(
11:00 < daja77> ...
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11:01 < netrunner> SMP: hush, not that the master hears your words ;)
11:02 < netrunner> daja77: ah, maybe the moving of the kde rep ...
11:02 < clifford> netrunner: too late. ;-(
11:02 < clifford> s/\(/\)/
11:02 < daja77> netrunner: yep had that problem while trying to commit to local repo
11:03 * netrunner doing fresh checkout, that has always helped :)
11:03 < daja77> so is just decided to not commit for a start and just build ...
11:03 < SMP> sm isn't such a bad idea, it's just not good it has to use svn ;)
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11:03 < tfing> moin
11:03 < daja77> netrunner: waaah using the hammer ...
11:03 < daja77> moin tfing 
11:03 < clifford> SMP: what else should it be based on?
11:04 < netrunner> clifford: cvs *runnhide*
11:04 < tfing> hi daja77 
11:04 < clifford> netrunner: if you think that is better... *g*
11:04 < daja77> urgs cvs would do no better
11:05 < SMP> clifford: just make sure that it works (no matter how svn may suck) or wait for svn to stop sucking
11:05 < clifford> svn has some flaws with his working-copy format. however: the database is stable and the svn people are working a lot on improving subversion.
11:06 < clifford> SMP: a bug report which can be easily reproduced would be very helpfull for me to look at the problems..
11:06 < SMP> clifford: sm sync'd recently after the kde move?
11:07 < daja77> yep that is broken :(
11:07 < clifford> mom..
11:08 < daja77> SMP: thx for psi package :)
11:08 * netrunner only hopes that this ongoing incompatibility between versions stops now that they reached 1.0
11:08 < SMP> daja77: sure. no big deal ;)
11:08 < daja77> <- recently turne into a jabber user ^^
11:12 * blindy happy with licq
11:12 < daja77> it does only icq
11:13 * tfing happy with bitlbee
11:15 < blindy> *sigh*
11:15 < blindy> the cryptoloop patch fake sent seems mutually exclusive with loop-aes
11:24 < SMP> *sigh* evms doesn't seem to work with devfs at all
11:26 < SMP> Subject: Welcome to the "rock-devel" mailing list
11:27 * SMP unsubscribes ...
11:27 < daja77> *gg*
11:28 < tfing> :)
11:29 < tfing> clifford: this list is for [sm] ?
11:29 < SMP> uhh, Clifford must have been faster ;)
11:30 < tfing> hehe
11:36 < daja77> i am unsubscribed before bein subscribed, nice
11:37 < SMP> To: <my correct address>
11:37 < SMP> Subject: Welcome to the "rock-devel" mailing list
11:37 < daja77> didn't get that mail
11:37 < SMP> of course you don't get mail when I subscribe to a list ;->
11:38 < daja77> ;-þ
11:46 < blindy> looks like clifford is trying some new mailinglist software
11:47 * daja77 whispers mailman
11:47 < clifford> blindy: s/trying/migrating to/
11:47 < clifford> daja77: yup.
11:47 * netrunner feels like a guineapig
11:47 < daja77> cool :)
11:48 < daja77> netrunner: eating chicoree and stuff?
11:51 < daja77> not a single build error so far, nice
11:54 < netrunner> daja77: building 00-dirtree?
11:55 < daja77> it is the last package, right?
11:58 < tfing> time to update the .procmailrc
12:04 < netrunner> daja77: you're daja in jabber?
12:05 < daja77> daja77
12:05 < daja77> daja77@care2x.de
12:07 * daja77 off now
12:07 < daja77> cu
12:09 < blindy> bye
12:14 < clifford> "sm sync" just needed a simple "svn up package/rene/koffice" before running "svn commit", btw. I don't see any problem here..
12:14 < netrunner> ah, mv package/kde /tmp; svn rm package/kde; svn up worked
12:14 < netrunner> (diff to clean checkout had 2mb, didn't want to hand-merge that ;)
12:17 < clifford> afk.
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12:50 < Croooow> hello
13:07 < blindy> WARNING: Dangerous file: package/./blindcoder/loop-aes/pkg_linux26-src_post.conf
13:07 < blindy> WARNING: Dangerous file: package/./blindcoder/loop-aes/pkg_linux26_post.conf
13:07 < blindy> oehm... wtf?
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13:19 < darix> netrunner: hmm "svn rm" deletes the package in the repos too on commit o.O 
13:28 < clifford> blindy: a "Dangerous file" is a file which is neighter a directory nor a regular file.
13:28 < blindy> I see...
13:28 < blindy> I shouldn't use symlinks then >_<
13:30 < clifford> I've added a patch to submaster with a better message.
13:31 < blindy> ah cool ^^
13:33 < rxr> re
13:33 < blindy> is the rock-sm mailinglist already working?
13:33 < blindy> I don't get a mail for the patch...
13:33 < blindy> rxr: hi
13:34 < tfing> clifford had a test message sent through it
13:34 < tfing> Subject: [rock-sm] [SM] 2004022723303603058 clifford msg This message is         just here for testing the rock-sm mailing list.
13:34 < blindy> I got that one
13:34 < blindy> but none after tha
13:34 < blindy> t
13:34 < blindy> rxr: I still have problems with the svn-rep >_<
13:35 < blindy> 405 Method Not Allowed
13:36 < rxr> blindy: you sent me a password hash - you must use the matching password ...
13:36 < blindy> I do
13:36 < blindy> rxr: I use the same hash on my local apache and there it works
13:37 < blindy> besides, wrong password usually emits a 401 Not Allowed IIRC
13:37 < blindy> 401 Authorization Required
13:38 < blindy> tfing: ah, now it arrived. looks like my connection is quite laggy atm
13:39 < tfing> i hadn't received it either
13:39 < tfing> and still not btw
13:43 < mnemoc> re
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14:27 < cytrinox> moin
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14:34 < rolla> I got removed form the mailing list?
14:40 < mnemoc> rolla: rock-devel :p ... clifford is/has creating/created a new list and he is/was playing with it
14:40 < rolla> ah
14:40 < clifford> I've frogott to click on the silent button when i did mass-subscribe everyone from a test list.. ;-)
14:40 < clifford> hmm.. any mailman experts here?
14:41 < rxr> clifford: do I need to subscrive to the list - or do you paste the old addressed?
14:41 < clifford> rxr: you sent 3 mails to the old address.
14:41 < daja77> hi rxr
14:41 < clifford> mailman want's me to approve them because they are not sent directly to the list address.
14:42 < clifford> I'm not looking for a configuration field where I can add "alias addresses" to the list so rock-devel also accepts rock-linux@rocklinux.org.
14:42 < clifford> ..but I can't find anything.
14:42 < clifford> s/not/now/ 
14:42 < clifford> hi daja77.
14:42 < rxr> clifford: nope - I do not want those binaries in my system so I tested it in a jail w/ thy ...
14:43 < clifford> rxr: hae?? what binaries?
14:43 < daja77> clifford: rxr: somebody does someone brings that rocklinux banner to clt?
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14:50 < mnemoc> daja77: what happend to the promised posters? *g*
14:51 < mnemoc> hi clifford, rxr, daja77, et al.
14:51 < daja77> mnemoc: not done due lack of time :(
14:51 < mnemoc> :'(
14:52 < mnemoc> time is always fscking everything :(    /me kicks time
14:52 < daja77> :)
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15:14 < blindy> does someone know how I can expand a wildcard in a variable in bash?
15:14 < blindy> like this: files=/path/to/files/*
15:15 < blindy> for x in ${files} ; do echo ${x} ; done
15:15 < blindy> that just outputs /path/to/files/*
15:15 < blindy> and not the files there
15:16 < mnemoc> files="$( echo /path/to/files/* )"
15:17 < mnemoc> for x in $( echo /path/to/files/* ); do if [ -f $x ]; then echo $x; fi; done
15:18 < blindy> blindcoder@kilbourne:~$ files=/mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber\ Marionette\ J\ to\ X/*
15:18 < blindy> blindcoder@kilbourne:~$ files="$( echo ${files} )"
15:18 < mnemoc> why the if? echo returns the wildcat as a char if not expantion is posible
15:18 < blindy> blindcoder@kilbourne:~$ echo $files
15:18 < blindy> /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber Marionette J to X/*
15:18 < mnemoc> echo ${foo} --> eval "echo ${foo}"
15:20 < blindy> still the same
15:20 < blindy> blindcoder@kilbourne:~$ eval "echo ${files}"
15:20 < blindy> /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber Marionette J to X/*
15:20 < mnemoc> there are files there?
15:21 < mnemoc> you may consider using find or ls too
15:21 < blindy> blindcoder@kilbourne:~$ ls -l /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber\ Marionette\ J\ to\ X/* | wc -l
15:21 < blindy>      26
15:22 < mnemoc> echo wont work with spaces...
15:22 < blindy> I wanted to avoid using ls because I can't get non-existing files that way
15:22 < blindy> like:
15:22 < blindy> ls -l /this/exists/ /but/this/not/
15:22 < blindy> will just give me /this/exists/ as a result
15:23 < mnemoc> w8
15:25 < mnemoc> $ mkdir "foo bar"
15:25 < mnemoc> $ cp /var/adm/logs/* "foo bar"/
15:25 < mnemoc> $ ls "foo bar"/* | wc -l
15:25 < mnemoc>      23
15:25 < mnemoc> $ echo "foo bar"/*
15:25 < mnemoc> foo bar/9-clip.log foo bar/9-cpio.log foo bar/9-ddclient.log foo bar/9-dietlibc.log foo bar/9-irssi.log foo bar/9-links.log foo bar/9-mailx.err foo bar/9-mtr.log foo bar/9-mutt.log foo bar/9-ntp.log foo bar/9-nullmailer.log foo bar/9-openssh.log foo bar/9-patchutils.log foo bar/9-php.err foo bar/9-phppgadmin.log foo bar/9-postgresql.log foo bar/9-rpm.log foo bar/9-rsync.log foo bar/9-runit.log foo bar/9-screen.log foo bar/9-strace.log foo bar/9-tla.log foo b
15:25 < blindy> yes, it works ass long as it stands there
15:25 < blindy> but:
15:25 < blindy> dir="foo bar"/*
15:25 < blindy> echo ${dir}
15:25 < blindy> or:
15:25 < mnemoc> eval "echo \"$files\"" ?
15:25 < blindy> hmm
15:25 < blindy> blindcoder@kilbourne:~$ eval "echo \"${files}\""
15:25 < blindy> /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber Marionette J to X/*
15:26 < blindy> hmm mom
15:27 < blindy> *argh*
15:27 < mnemoc> it doesn't work inside a var :(
15:28 * mnemoc kicks blindy's spaces
15:29 < blindy> it's not my spaces
15:29 < blindy> it's just that users might have spaces there
15:29 * mnemoc kicks blindy's users
15:31 < blindy> ;P
15:31 < mnemoc> blindy: what if generate an script on runtime and axecute it after?
15:33 < blindy> I'm currently trying something like that
15:33 < blindy> however, escaping the spaces will be tough
15:33 < daja77> 1118 builds total, 298 completed fine, 2 with errors.
15:34 < mnemoc> daja77: lx2.6?
15:34 < daja77> nope, sendmail and linux-drm
15:36 < blindy> hmm... I think I have a solution...
15:37 < blindy> 4 - () Files to put on this medium
15:37 < blindy> Remember to escape special characters like spaces or bangs
15:37 < blindy> :)
15:37 < blindy> then it works
15:38 < blindy> root@fuzzy:~/DEVELOPMENT/lvp_binary_release/trunk# eval "echo $LVP_FILES"
15:38 < blindy> /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber Marionette J to X/Saber Marionette J to X - 01.ogm /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber Marionette J to X/Saber Marionette J to X - 02.ogm
15:38 < blindy> ...
15:38 < blindy> root@fuzzy:~/DEVELOPMENT/lvp_binary_release/trunk# echo $LVP_FILES
15:38 < blindy> /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber\ Marionette\ J\ to\ X/*
15:38 < blindy> that should have been first...
15:46 < blindy> YATTA!
15:46 < blindy> read -er is the solution!
15:46 < blindy> mnemoc: read -er meep
15:46 < blindy> /mnt/crazyhorse/home/BT/Saber\ Marionette\ J\ to\ X/Saber\ Marionette\ J\ to\ X\ -\ *
15:46 < mnemoc> re
15:46 < blindy> and then eval "echo ${meep}" will give me all the files :)
15:47 < blindy> -e make read use readline and -r will interprete \ as a real \ and not as masquerading character\
15:47 < mnemoc> :o
15:48 < mnemoc> what a dirty sth
15:49 < blindy> it works :)
15:50 * mnemoc kicks blindy 
15:50 < mnemoc> :)
15:52 < blindy> :P
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16:13 < rxr> rehi
16:13 < daja77> wb rxr 
16:15 < rxr> daja77: the banner should be in my flat - if it is there I bring it with me ...
16:15 < daja77> k. big thx
16:15 < rxr> clifford: AFAIHS mailman is C crap
16:16 < daja77> nope python
16:17 < mnemoc> hi rxr
16:17 < blindy> hmm
16:17 * mnemoc removes mailman from his todo
16:17 < blindy> looks like I can release the next batch of precompiled LVPs
16:18 < daja77> 1118 builds total, 319 completed fine, 3 with errors.
16:18 < daja77> yes
16:18 < mnemoc> daja77: how's the third?
16:18 < mnemoc> who*
16:18 < daja77>  [5]   1 base/sendmail                   [5]   0 x11/linux-drm
16:18 < daja77>  [5]   8 rene/libmpeg2
16:19 < daja77> mnemoc: well it is python, but there is no better program for that job atm
16:19 < mnemoc> rxr: are those 'recognized errors' documented outside the code?
16:20 < mnemoc> daja77: :( i will _neven_ install python
16:20 -!- kandinski is now known as kandinski_away
16:20 < daja77> *shrug* it is jsut about 5mb
16:20 < mnemoc> there must be something good on perl or even php
16:21 < mnemoc> daja77: it's a principle
16:21 < daja77> there is nothing
16:21 < daja77> only worse stuff
16:22 < daja77> at least there is no important program written in ruby yet
16:23 < rxr> clifford: svn commit mails will go to the new list now ...
16:23 < daja77> the sm list?
16:23 < mnemoc> rxr: can you 'in-reply-to'?
16:24 < rxr> daja77: nope rock-svn
16:24 < rxr> daja77: mnemoc: all people from my old list should be in the new one
16:24 < daja77> ah cool
16:25 < mnemoc> daja77: what about mayordomo?
16:25 < daja77> old sucking software
16:26 < rxr> daja77: but mailman included binary stuff - I saw it ...
16:26 * daja77 doesn't set stupid principles to avoid such problems
16:26 < rxr> daja77: do you mean /me with -^
16:27 < clifford> rxr: can you apply [2004030213251426185] ? I don't think that we need to discuss that one-liner and i want to test the rock-svn list..  ;-)
16:27 < daja77> rxr: hm?
16:27 < daja77> btw you are right
16:27 < daja77> Mailman is written in the Python programming language, with a little bit of C code for security. 
16:27 < rxr> C for security ? ....
16:27 < daja77> it is easy to rewrite python modules in C if you need it
16:28 < daja77> rxr: don't ask me
16:28 < rxr> clifford: the patch has a typo - but I apply it with a single char fix
16:28 < rxr> ;-)
16:28 * daja77 burning fedora core 1 now
16:28 < rxr> muah ..
16:30 < daja77> *ggg*
16:30 < daja77> just in case rock doesn't finish in time
16:30 < rxr> applied
16:31 < rxr> Subject: [SVN-ROCKLINUX] rev 2435 - trunk/scripts 
16:31 < rxr> From: rock-svn-owner@rocklinux.org 
16:31 < rxr> To: rene@schillernet.dyndns.org 
16:31 < rxr> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:26:26 +0100 
16:31 < rxr> Envelope-to: rene@schillernet.dyndns.org 
16:31 < rxr> Delivery-date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:26:33 +0000 
16:31 < rxr> X-Mew: tab/spc characters on Subject: are simplified. 
16:31 < rxr>  
16:31 < rxr> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has 
16:31 < rxr> been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are 
16:31 < rxr> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at 
16:32 < rxr> rock-svn-owner@rocklinux.org. 
16:32 < rxr> oh - oops my fault - I correct this clifford  ...
16:32 < daja77> darix: ping
16:33 < darix> peng
16:33 < daja77> how can i make irssi stop trying to connect to a broken server?
16:34 < darix> /help rmrecon
16:34 < daja77> thx
16:34 < clifford> rxr: you told me the mails would come from $author@rocklinux-consulting.de
16:34 < rxr> clifford: yeah - just fixed this - I wrote my fault ...
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16:34 < clifford> not $author@schillernet.dyndns.org
16:34 < rxr> clifford: yes yes yes - fixed
16:35 < holyolli> re
16:35 < clifford> ah ok. I didn't read so far.  ;-)
16:35 < rxr> clifford: outdated configs .... - can you quickly add me into the list, too
16:35 < rxr> clifford: I first also did not read the wohle msg - I posted it and _then_ read that my sender address was messed up ...
16:36 < rxr> clifford: the 2nd mail was fine?
16:37 < mnemoc> clifford: SMP told you mutt doesn't thread without in-reply-to header?
16:39 < mnemoc> re holyolli 
16:39 < blindy> mnemoc: if the subject is the same with additional Re: or so then it can "guess" the thread
16:39 < holyolli> hola mnemoc
16:40 < clifford> ok - worked fine. I'll announce rock-svn now officially..
16:51 < mnemoc> clifford: can u force a 'password reminder'?
16:52 * blindy gone
17:01 < clifford> mnemoc: if you want to change your options you cen let mailman send you your password from the webinterface.
17:04 < daja77> yep the reminder mails suck
17:27 -!- skunk2k_ is now known as skunk2k
17:30 < rxr> clifford: the List-ID's of the new list mails are a bit strange
17:31 < rxr> ah - ok you changed them later ...
17:31 < daja77> :)
17:31 < rxr> clifford: is it intended that the List-ID does is s/@/./ ?
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17:59 < mnemoc> clifford: oh... i didn't notice that unsubcribe button also edits 'options' like 'remaind password' :)
18:01 < mnemoc> daja77: Get password reminder email for this list? <--- this is what i wanted to disable :)
18:01 < netrunner> darix: it has been moved in the repo.
18:01 < darix> netrunner: i guess s/darix/daja77/?
18:01 < mnemoc> Avoid duplicate copies of messages? <--- yes by default?
18:02 < netrunner> [13:15] < darix> netrunner: hmm "svn rm" deletes the package in the repos too on commit o.O 
18:02 < darix> netrunner: ah ic
18:02 * netrunner just got home and read lastlog ;)
18:02 < darix> hmm
18:02 < darix> svn up should move the local copy than too o.O
18:02 < darix> anyways
18:07 < netrunner> mine was modified, so it refused ...
18:21 < netrunner> cd /tmp; rm -rf .*; quit job
18:21 < mnemoc> outch
18:22 < netrunner> mnemoc: purely philosophical - this time ;)
18:22 < mnemoc> :)
18:22 < netrunner> mnemoc: read the link I posted yesterday? about admin-horror stories? that's one of them.
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18:22 < mnemoc> =)
18:23 < A-Tui> hola
18:23 < mnemoc> adios :)
18:23 * mnemoc to lunch, bbl
18:23 < A-Tui> :)
18:23 < A-Tui> hsata luego :)
18:24 < mnemoc> deberas que ustedes se 'cagan en la ostia' :\
18:24 < A-Tui> mmm si, se usa expresión
18:24 < A-Tui> porÇ?
18:24 < mnemoc> aDios = "anda con dios" vs. "Hasta luego"
18:25 < A-Tui> mmmmm
18:25 < A-Tui> bueno pues entonces adios :)
18:25 < mnemoc> ;)
18:25 < A-Tui> a mi me gusta más "hasta luego" o "hasta pronto"
18:25 < A-Tui> adios suena demasiado lejano, como para desdedidas muy largas
18:26 < mnemoc> no atheistic hidden message?
18:26 < A-Tui> lol
18:26 < A-Tui> no
18:26 < mnemoc> :p
18:26 < mnemoc> cu
18:26 < A-Tui> i'm not atheist
18:27 < A-Tui> cu mnemoc
18:27 < A-Tui> mnemoc, cuando regreses me echas una mano con unos problemas con submaster? :)
18:29 * tfing cuts one of mnemoc's hand to give to A-Tui 
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18:30 < netrunner> hm, when I suspend a process in a screen, can I reattach it from another?
18:30 < A-Tui> thanks tfing :)
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18:39 < netrunner> ok, solved by restarting screen and it's childs :)
18:45 < blindy> hi hi and rehi
18:47 < netrunner> blindy: very funny.
18:49 < blindy> netrunner: ^^
18:49 < blindy> netrunner: btw, you can't
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18:53 < kome> hi all
18:53 < blindy> hi
18:55 < netrunner> blindy: I know :)
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19:01 < netrunner> hehe, (german: usa force tobacco industrie to produce fire-proof cigaretts that go out when you're not inhaling for a short time) https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/artikel/623/27596/
19:01 < blindy> looks like my loop-aes package works
19:03 < daja77> re
19:06 < netrunner> Lord of the Rings FULL download here: https://weblog.lastpak.nl/images/2004/LOTR.gif
19:10 < netrunner> oh, freeswan was stopped.
19:13 < daja77> rofl
19:14 < darix> what does this do: HAVE_SIN_LEN?
19:15 < darix> i read through the source and it get initialized with 0 
19:19 < blindy> dammit, I hate typing long mails >_<
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20:35 < rxr> rehi
20:35 < blindy> wb
20:37 < A-Tui> submaster lost patch files when an error happen
20:38 < rxr> A-Tui: report to clifford ;-)
20:38 < A-Tui> ok :)
20:38 < A-Tui> once again :)
20:38 < mnemoc> re
20:38 < A-Tui> re mnemoc
20:39 < mnemoc> A-Tui! 
20:46 * netrunner watching new revision of starwars4 .. .found first new scene
20:49 < blindy> rxr: please delete the svn-rep for lvp again. I've taken the five minutes to set up a working svn server myself
20:49 < mnemoc> .oO( first read that in a versioning context :\ )
20:50 < blindy> mnemoc: ?
20:50 < mnemoc> netrunner's
20:51 < mnemoc> i thought he was talking about software
20:51 < mnemoc> and versioning
20:51 < netrunner> *g*
20:51 * netrunner just found out that he had a deadline for a paper yesterday, now having the vi residing on top of the movie. 
20:52 < netrunner> brave hires 19"crt :)
20:52 < A-Tui> adios, cu *
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21:02 < rxr> blindy: your svn lvp does work for me
21:02 < rxr> I just committed a test README ...
21:02 < rxr> what URL scheme are you using ?
21:02 < blindy> https://
21:02 < blindy> as you told me
21:02 < esdentem_> hi all
21:03 < blindy> WAH!
21:03 -!- esdentem_ is now known as esdentem
21:03 < blindy> it... it... IT MOVED!
21:03 < esdentem> hehe ;)
21:03 < blindy> It's ALIVE! Start scenario Weldfire... NOW!
21:03 < blindy> Wildfire!
21:03 < rxr> do you have a transparent proxy in your way ?
21:03 < blindy> rxr: NAT on my router
21:03 * esdentem hides ... and summons a fireball in blindy direction ;)
21:03 < blindy> nothing else
21:04 * blindy puts on a ring of fireprotection
21:04 < rxr> blindy: are you sure you enter your correct username ?
21:04 < rxr> I have an error in my log trying root ...
21:04 < blindy> rxr: yes. svn first tried root, then asked for username and password again
21:04 * esdentem summoning a icebolt before blindcoder can react ;)
21:04 < rxr> your username is blindcoder
21:05 < blindy> but i get the same with --username blindcoder --password <mypasshere>
21:05 < esdentem> ok ... how are you guys? fighting with net infrastructure?
21:05 < rxr> blindy: can you just try now and I watch my log ?
21:06 < netrunner> esdentem: fighting with report to be finished yesterday.
21:06 < esdentem> o_O
21:06 < blindy> rxr: ok
21:06 < esdentem> I read donnerstag
21:07 < blindy> oehm...
21:07 < blindy> rxr: Just forget what I said ^^
21:08 * blindy walking through his bash_history searching for user error
21:10 < rxr> blindy: hm - I did not change the configs ... - but magically the README disappeared ...
21:10 < rxr> please tell me when I can remove rene from the ACL ...
21:11 < blindy> rxr: it works now. I must have made an error somewhere and am currently searching for it
21:11 < blindy> rxr: sorry for causing trouble >_<
21:47 < netrunner> arglrmrlgr " Your message to rock-devel awaits moderator approval"
21:50 < mnemoc> LOL
21:50 < mnemoc> netrunner: check if u are subscripted
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22:06 < netrunner> mnemoc: this happens when you send to rock-linux@rocklinux.org, since this is only a pointer to another ml.
22:06 < mnemoc> aha
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23:01 < daja77> re
23:01 < mnemoc> re daja77 
23:01 < daja77> thx mnemoc 
23:01 < daja77> just got up from bed O_o
23:02 < mnemoc> daja77: can't sleep?
23:02 < netrunner> damnit, only 1.7 in software engineering.
23:02 < mnemoc> which is the range?
23:02 < daja77> no i did, just not the time for continuing :)
23:03 < netrunner> mnemoc: worst: 5, best: 1
23:03 < mnemoc> o_O
23:03 < mnemoc> we count in the other direction
23:04 < daja77> like the russians do
23:04 < netrunner> Only because I started redesigning that lorry because I wanted to add features ;)
23:04 < mnemoc> 5-1 russian or 1-5 russian?
23:04 < netrunner> moldova uses numbers where 10 is best, and less is worse
23:05 < daja77> mnemoc: 5-1
23:05 < mnemoc> that's confusing :|
23:05 < mnemoc> we are 1:worse -> 7:best
23:06 < daja77> in france it is 20-1
23:06 < netrunner> usa has letters F->A iirc
23:07 < tfing> daja77: true :)
23:07 < daja77> A-F
23:07 < daja77> :)
23:07 < mnemoc> A:best-F:worst
23:07 < daja77> yep
23:07 < tfing> (20 is the best, just to make it clear)
23:12 < daja77> yep
23:19 < mnemoc> netrunner: what relates you with moldova?
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23:27 < theanalogkid> The ISO won't install, as it can't find the second stage tgz though it's on the disc
23:27 < theanalogkid> well my burnt iso
23:30 < mnemoc> theanalogkid: rc4 includes a version of dietlibc which makes mount fail
23:30 < mnemoc> you have to use one with dietlibc-0.25
23:31 < theanalogkid> so should i use rc3?
23:32 < mnemoc> nope, newer than rc4
23:32 < tfing> if you want to use your burnt iso, there is a howto in the mailing list archives
23:32 < tfing> written by ... mnemoc ?
23:33 < mnemoc> =)
23:38 < theanalogkid> are there any binary isos with the fixes, because it involves a lot it seems to get to work and I don't have an Linux isos that will let me eject the cdrom
23:38 < cytrinox> gn8
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23:40 < netrunner> mnemoc: my gf
23:41 < netrunner> theanalogkid: change to the second console, unmount the cdrom and eject it.
23:41 < esdentem> woow ... that was hard
23:41 < esdentem> I have been tested for thc ... 
23:41 < daja77> hi esdentem!
23:42 < daja77> O_o
23:42 < esdentem> by the police
23:42 < daja77> huh, why 
23:42 < esdentem> they stopped me while I was driving home
23:43 < daja77> sucks
23:43 < esdentem> yes .. but it was negative
23:43 < daja77> good :)
23:43 < esdentem> yes ... but it was very close
23:44 < esdentem> thank god that logging is off ;)
23:45 < esdentem> so for your information do not drive for three days after consuming ;)
23:45 < daja77> ;)
23:45 < esdentem> I did not know that
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