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02:34 < apache_king> Hi,anyone here willing to answer a question about an iso install of 2.0?
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04:17 < rolla> re
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08:54 < daja77> moin
09:14 < blindy> moin moin
09:15 < daja77> moin blindy
09:15 < tfing> moin
09:17 < blindy> GRAH
09:17 < blindy> damn sysfiles package
09:18 < daja77> hi tfing
09:23 < daja77> fsck cvs co into another cvs co sucks
09:23 < blindy> ?
09:23 < blindy> does this work at all?
09:24 < daja77> we'll see, i just have no idea how to pcakge that
09:24 < blindy> make two separate co [D] tags, and then untar them into the same directory
09:25 < daja77> the thing is you have to co the second into a subdirectory of the first
09:26 < blindy> tar xfvI a.tar.bz2 ; cd a/subdir/ ; tar xfvI b.tar.bz2 ; mv b/* .
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09:26 < daja77> ah k. i think i'll skip that anyway
09:28 < blindy> what sick package is that anyway?
09:29 < daja77> duke nukem 3d for linux ...
09:30 < blindy> I see
09:36 < blindy> heh, linux24 in 9 minutes :)
09:37 < daja77> hehe
09:37 < blindy> (custom config for LVP ^_^)
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10:03 < holyolli> moin
10:06 < blindy> moin moin
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12:21 < blindy> WEE!
12:21 < blindy> looks like LVP will now built from an unpatched ROCK Tree
12:28 < holyolli> blindy: so you fixed the xfree-issue?
12:35 < blindy> holyolli: yes
12:35 < holyolli> :)
12:35 < blindy> xfree compiles fine statically
12:36 < holyolli> great
12:42 < cytrinox> moin
12:43 < holyolli> hi cytrinox
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13:13 < rxr> re
13:13 < daja77> hi rxr
13:24 < blindy> moin rxr
13:24 < daja77> blindy: libsdl stuff works fine now
13:25 < daja77> fixed openal as well last night
13:25 < blindy> daja77: great ^_^ so no patches needed?
13:25 < daja77> not yet
13:25 < blindy> good :)
13:25 < blindy> I just finished my target-only LVP build
13:25 < daja77> :)
13:25 < daja77> :)
13:28 < blindy> so as soon as loop-aes and termcap patches are applied I can send the next batch :)
13:32 < daja77> dang subversion failed in this build
13:32 < menomc> moin
13:32 < holyolli> re
13:32 < daja77> moin typo
13:32 < holyolli> buenos dias menomc ;-)
13:32 < menomc> daja77: a patch for submaster/subversion1 is at smadm
13:33 < menomc> :)
13:33 < daja77> yeah think i saw that ...
13:33 < daja77> it is the sm patch that broke it i guess
13:33 < menomc> indeed
13:36 < rxr> I already applied the SM subversion patch rediff
13:36 < rxr> is there still a problem?
13:37 < daja77> rxr: i haven't svn up'ed the tree during build
13:38 < SMP> "final 2.0.0-prerelease" *lol* ;->
13:38 < daja77> hehe
13:39 < menomc> rxr: did you saw my mail about busybox?
13:39 < daja77> grrr whole build now takes 2.5 days on this machine
13:39 < menomc> daja77: not finished yet?
13:40 < daja77> nope
13:40 < menomc> oh
13:40 < menomc> that's not good for your deadline
13:40 < rxr> SMP: I'll apply some patches and do a fresh rebuild and then label it 2.0.0 in a week or so
13:40 < daja77> we could release on clt, and use it for propaganda
13:41 < menomc> rxr: if you have a time, fix the content of the url on $topic
13:41 < daja77> menomc: if you have time fix your nick
13:41 < menomc> :)
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13:41 < blindy> so I have a week to post a patch for target/lvp :)
13:42 < mnemoc> (hi rxr, SMP & blindy ;-)
13:43 < blindy> hi mnemoc :)
13:43 < SMP> and rock-devel eats my mail, I'm so overjoyed ...
13:44 < rxr> daja77: you mean a 2.0.0-really-final on CLT ?
13:44 < SMP> ARRGH
13:44 < blindy> isn't wxwindows now called wxwidgets?
13:44 < daja77> rxr: why not
13:44 < rxr> blindy: I have not applied this patch yet
13:44 < daja77> blindy: yes
13:44 < blindy> rxr: I see
13:44 < mnemoc> rxr: 2.0._0_ ;)
13:44 < rxr> mnemoc: what busybox thing ß
13:45 < SMP> we should probably have a working init for 2.0.0 ...
13:45 < mnemoc> rxr: there were two falvors of busybox patch
13:45 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah - but as less computer access I had in the last weeks I do not feel that comfortable to label it 2.0.0 ...
13:45 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - busybox - sorry
13:45 * blindy now looking at his LVP again and preparing a patch to include it into main ROCK tree soon
13:45 < mnemoc> rxr: one standalone and one which used an script from uclibc confdir
13:45 < blindy> bbl
13:45 < rxr> mnemoc: I thought about blackbox - know I know what you are talking about
13:45 < mnemoc> :)
13:45 < rxr> blindy: second
13:46 < rxr> blindy: still here?
13:46 < mnemoc> SMP: init fails?
13:46 < SMP> why the *FUCK* does this broken MLM @rocklinux.org send bounces to the From: address ...
13:46 < SMP> mnemoc: ever tried init s ?
13:46 < mnemoc> SMP: i use runit :p
13:47 < blindy> rxr: hm?
13:48 < rxr> blindy: the SPARC IPX stuff you wanted to get rid off - you could it hand over to praenti if he is at LT the weekend ;-)
13:48 < mnemoc> SMP: does rock supports 'single' mode?
13:48 < SMP> what kind of question is that? ;)
13:49 < blindy> rxr: or fake... I'll call one of them
13:49 < mnemoc> SMP: 2!='S'
13:49 < clifford> hi gang.
13:49 < mnemoc> i use to use '2'
13:49 < blindy> hi boss
13:49 < mnemoc> hi boss :)
13:49 < blindy> ok, I'm off
13:49 < SMP> mnemoc: of course 2!=S, but my system *reboots* when I init s from another runlevel ...
13:50 < rxr> SMP: might you have the time to take a look into it ?
13:50 < mnemoc> SMP: uhm... that's not funny :\
13:50 < SMP> clifford: can you please install an MLM that is *not* broken? :-{
13:50 < clifford> SMP: what's the problem?
13:50 < mnemoc> weird stefan's mail addresses :)
13:51 < SMP> it doesn't let my post to rock-devel (ok, which address is the one that has to match my subscription address?) and sends a bounce to the RFC2822 From: address
13:52 < SMP> s,my,me,
13:53 < clifford> SMP: /query, so we don't have your addresses in an irc log..
13:53 < SMP> rxr: I am preparing to start a new build ASAP (don't have a recent one) and then I'll look into it
13:55 < daja77> clifford: there is no log atm
13:56 < SMP> you cannot prove that something does not exist
13:56 < mnemoc> :)
13:57 < daja77> true dat, at least esdens log isn't working atm
13:58 < clifford> daja77: there are whispers that it is working but not uploading.
13:58 < clifford> .. and it should be fixed asap imo because the irc log asre important to our google rating.. ;-)
13:58 < daja77> hehe
13:59 < blindy> daja77: it isn't working, but it is running
13:59 < rxr> clifford: do you think this patch will cause any side-effects?:
13:59 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data/2004/03/0311525101013.patch
13:59 < blindy> daja77: I have access to the files
13:59 < clifford> rxr: there is an sm showstopper bug in subversion.
14:00 < rxr> clifford: details ...
14:00 < mnemoc> svn rm dir ?
14:00 < blindy> rxr: if it eases you: I have made a LVP build with this patch applied
14:00 < blindy> brb
14:01 < clifford> if I 'svn rm' a directory and commit that, an 'svn diff -rN:M' doesn't show the file deletions from the directory.
14:02 < rxr> --diff-delete or so ?
14:02 < clifford> so I't always required to delete the files in one revision and the directories in a 2nd one if correct diffs are required.
14:02 < SMP> there is no --diff-deleted, only --no-diff-deleted ;)
14:02 < clifford> rxr: it works fine if you just delete files - but not if you delete directories.
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14:03 < rxr> clifford: have you already reported this to #svn or so ?
14:03 < SMP> #svn is a bug black-hole
14:03 < clifford> Yes. I have been ignored... ;-(
14:03 < rxr> clifford: then mailing-list ...
14:03 < mnemoc> <darix> .oO( svn up -r $(revbefore delete) ; svn diff > diff ; svn up *hides* )o
14:03 < clifford> I'm not subscribed to the subversion mailing list.
14:05 < rxr> clifford: if you do not want to subscribe - send the mail to me and I fwd it ...
14:07 < clifford> rxr: how much traffic is on that list?
14:08 < blindy> okay, gotta go for some time more... shopping
14:09 < rxr> s.th. between rock-linux and linux-kernel ...
14:09 < clifford> rxr: hmm.. that is a wide range. ;-) I will forward you the bug report.
14:11 < rxr> huh - rock-linux with all it's auto generated mails was quite a lot in the last days before the switch ... ;-)+
14:38 < clifford> hehe. rxr is applying patches - the mailing list traffic produces a load of 0.3 on my server.. *g*
14:38 < rxr> clifford: while applying patches I get:
14:38 < rxr> /usr/local/bin/smap.sh: line 66: [: too many arguments
14:39 < clifford> there is no '[' in line 66. are you sure this is the current version?
14:40 < rxr> if [ "$a" = "$plus" -a -f "$b" ]; then
14:40 < rxr> might be not HEAD ...
14:40 < clifford> yup - this is fixed in the latest version.
15:01 < netrunner> what was the name of the linuxtag channel?
15:02 < daja77> erhm
15:03 < daja77> #rock-lxtagchem
15:03 < daja77> or do you mean the official chan?
15:04 < rxr> daja77: when shoudl I arrive tomorrow - when do other people will arrive ?
15:04 < daja77> 14:00
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15:05 < daja77> hope we have some tables until then :)
15:05 < daja77> netrunner: official chan would #clt2004 on ircnet
15:33 < rxr> mnemoc: online?
15:34 < daja77> nice my nrewly created packe are autmagically integrated in running Build_target, without me interrupting it
15:34 < mnemoc> rxr: yep
15:35 < rxr> anything against naming the next release "Rafaella"
15:36 < daja77> sounds cool
15:37 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:37 < rxr> mnemoc: uhm? ?
15:37 < mnemoc> i love thast name ;)
15:37 < rxr> ok
15:37 < rxr> mnemoc: correct spelling?
15:38 < mnemoc> yep
15:38 < tfing> naming the rock 2.0.0 release ?
15:38 < rxr> tfing: many releases had "visual code names in the past" ;-)
15:38 < rxr> I just sent a mail to rock-devel asking for votes for the version code it should get
15:39 < rxr> 2.0.0-final - or s.th. -pre-releaseish
15:39 * daja77 liked the not a noc name ^^
15:40 < SMP> -final? what?
15:40 < SMP> I mean. it's not even tested
15:40 < rxr> SMP: I know that you do not like a -final on it - but it will never become final when we proceed this way
15:41 < rxr> SMP: many packages are tested on many boxes on a daily rebuild basis by me
15:41 < mnemoc> can you consider 2.6.0 -final?
15:41 < mnemoc> this is .0 too
15:41 < tfing> mnemoc: that was easy ;)
15:41 < rxr> and the build on my server will be tested before I tag it and give it out at linux-tag
15:41 < rxr> mnemoc: ACK - we need to labbel it 2.0.0 one day
15:41 < mnemoc> full ack
15:42 < daja77> rxr: so you have builds to give out there?
15:42 < rxr> and the ROCK Linux network config was the biggest showstopper - I can not give a 2.0.0 CD to a Magazine and tell them we can only configure one network card ...
15:42 < rxr> daja77: yes - a x86 one
15:42 < mnemoc> an one minimal :p
15:42 < mnemoc> and*
15:43 < rxr> my RS/6k is idling currently - but I'll provide PowerPC and even a SPARC ISO this months
15:43 < daja77> rxr: cool i concentarte on this build for games stuff
15:43 < daja77> i had this conn
15:43 < daja77> hate even
15:43 < rxr> my SPARC one already boots on sparc64 - but my silo has some strange CD-only issue on SPARC
15:44 < rxr> the SPARC code will go into 2.0.1 or so ...
15:44 < rxr> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg system
15:44 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.0.0-rc5-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert:
15:44 < rxr> [1] 0 base/iproute2 [5] 0 misc/directfb
15:44 < rxr> [5] 0 kde/koffice-i18n [5] 0 kasc/gnubg
15:44 < rxr> [5] 0 misc/dfbsee [5] 0 fake/gtkpod
15:44 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/pybliographer
15:44 < rxr> 864 builds total, 857 completed fine, 7 with errors.
15:44 * daja77 glad to see you soon
15:45 < rxr> I even alrady use 2.6.3 kernels on both SPARC and SPARC64
15:45 < SMP> I hope iproute2 will work now?
15:46 < rxr> I had to patch some PCI bits on SPARC64 to have a running X ... - and I need to debug some oopses on SPARC (32) when process information are obtained - but otherwise the SPARC kernel works
15:46 < daja77> 1120 builds total, 1032 completed fine, 41 with errors.
15:46 < rxr> SMP: this is a rebuild problem I have to track later
15:46 < daja77> guess some of them are fixed already
15:47 < rxr> SMP: it builds in stage5 - just a "the rock scripts have a bug to rebuild stage1 packages when later stages have already run" problem ...
15:47 * daja77 wondering if cube builds out of the box
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15:49 < daja77> ah damn it is a zip file
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16:33 < blindy> rehi
16:34 < rxr> rehi blindy
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16:34 < rxr> blindy: have you read my IPX mainboard hand-over to praenti questions hours ago?
16:34 < rxr> hi aXp
16:36 < blindy> rxr: I even answered it
16:37 < blindy> rxr: I'll call either praenti or fake
16:37 < daja77> btw you guys have my phone number just in case?
16:38 < rxr> blindy: ok - I scrolled back but must have missed this - thanks!
16:38 < rxr> daja77: nope
16:42 < blindy> praenti can't come
16:42 < daja77> oh
16:42 < daja77> nice to know ...
16:42 < daja77> blindy: what happened
16:43 < blindy> daja77: they have 'Vorstandssitzung' of the LUG-IN at the 7th
16:44 * blindy calling fake
16:44 < daja77> does it mean fake can't come too?
16:44 < blindy> yes he does
16:44 < daja77> puh k.
16:45 < daja77> does come?
16:45 < blindy> yes he does
16:45 < holyolli> where is the linuxtag?
16:45 < blindy> and he takes the IPX for rxr with him
16:45 < daja77> chemnitz
16:45 < daja77> ah ok
16:46 * daja77 will be off soon
16:46 < daja77> so if there is something important you can reach me via mobile
16:47 < blindy> daja77: ok
16:47 < blindy> rxr: any objections against the loop-aes thing?
16:48 < rxr> blindy: I verify later - I want a running ISO first ...
16:48 < daja77> holyolli: want to come
16:48 < daja77> ?
16:48 < rxr> blindy: it might get into 2.0.1 - if I have too less time today ...
16:48 < blindy> rxr: no problem.
16:49 < holyolli> daja77: have to money to travel to chemnitz :((
16:49 < rxr> blindy: praenti wanted to sponsor a SCSI disc for my SS2 ... - might it be possible to hand it over to fake, too ? ;-)
16:49 < daja77> ic
16:49 < blindy> rxr: Just wanted to know. After that I need two more packages for LVP (freeglut, and lvp) and LVP can be used as an "ordinary" target.
16:49 < daja77> well cu later
16:49 < holyolli> cu daja77
16:49 < blindy> rxr: yes, I already talked to him about that :)
16:49 < rxr> ah - cool - my SS2 will be happy about this ;.)
16:50 < blindy> hehe :)
16:50 * netrunner votes for pre-final
16:51 < rxr> blindy: I would apply the nethack patches - but aren't there online locations for the patches so we do not have that big patches lying around in the source-tree?
16:53 < blindy> rxr: they are _somewhere_
16:53 < blindy> rxr: those are patches I collected over time.
16:53 < blindy> rxr: I will put them online on my own site, but this isn't my top-priority
16:54 < blindy> rxr: I want LVP to be usable as a normal ROCK target, that's what I concentrate on right now
16:55 < holyolli> blindy: during compile of revision 30 he complains about unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
16:55 < holyolli> <-- just encountered that some seconds ago ;-)
16:55 < holyolli> it seems as if the pkg_linux24-src.conf isn't correct
16:58 < blindy> holyolli: corrected in rev 31 :)
16:58 < holyolli> ah ok
16:59 < holyolli> .oO( i just checked out 30..?!?)
16:59 < holyolli> ;-)
16:59 < blindy> holyolli: all pkg_* files had that problem
16:59 < blindy> I missed an " after var_append confopt
16:59 < holyolli> axxo
17:01 < blindy> I fixed it around noon, but forgot to commit it >_<
17:01 * blindy still has to get used to svn
17:01 < holyolli> *g*
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17:17 * blindy running a LVP build with current ROCK-HEAD
17:17 < blindy> and if that works, I'll just tag 0.3.1 and submit it to submaster :)
17:21 * blindy gone
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17:30 < rxr> hi YDS
17:30 * SMP wondering if there are any ROCK users in Kazachstan
17:32 < SMP> (would be pretty cool)
17:32 < mnemoc> isn't it cool to have one at chile? ;)
17:33 < SMP> no, but a developer ;)
17:33 < SMP> but for me Kazachstan is a quite a bit more exotic than Chile
17:34 < mnemoc> for me too ;)
17:34 < slightedchris> is there a station for this room?
17:34 < mnemoc> wtf?
17:35 < slightedchris> mnemoc: it's not THAT stupid of a question
17:35 < mnemoc> what do u mean by 'station'?
17:35 < slightedchris> internet station
17:35 < slightedchris> streaming music
17:35 < slightedchris> :)
17:35 < SMP> radio station probably. no there isn't
17:36 < SMP> not radio, not internet radio
17:37 < slightedchris> are people in here in bands? Just trying to figure out the topic in this room....
17:38 < SMP> start by looking at https://www.rocklinux.org/
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17:38 < SMP> gee ...
17:38 < mnemoc> LOL
17:40 * tfing can hit rocks to make some noise
17:40 < mnemoc> doesn't safri duo version their discs?
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18:15 < _NULL_> moin
18:15 < mnemoc> wb owl
18:15 < _NULL_> thx
18:27 < rxr> hi owl
18:28 < _NULL_> hi rxr
18:29 < _NULL_> is svn.rocklinux-consoluting.de down?
18:33 < mnemoc> svn.rocklinux-consulting.de
18:33 < _NULL_> aeh. yeah. i meant it. just a typoe
18:34 < _NULL_> i get this error-message if i'm trying to update the sources
18:34 < mnemoc> it's up
18:34 < _NULL_> svn: RA layer request failed
18:34 < _NULL_> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/rock-linux/trunk'
18:34 < _NULL_> svn: PROPFIND of '/rock-linux/trunk': 400 Bad Request (https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de)
18:35 < _NULL_> sh** :-(
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18:36 < mnemoc> Updated to revision 2485.
18:37 < mnemoc> svn --version ?
18:38 < _NULL_> svn, version 0.30.0 (r7178)
18:38 < mnemoc> svn, version 0.35.0 (r7994)
18:38 < _NULL_> hrmpf. svn doesn't love me,?
18:39 < mnemoc> you just need to update it
18:39 < _NULL_> yeah... sure... but this means, that it doesn't love me
18:40 < mnemoc> nope, they have a familiar conflict between yours and rene's :)
18:40 < mnemoc> nothing against you
18:40 < _NULL_> :p
18:40 < mnemoc> lunch time, bbl
18:40 < _NULL_> bon appetit
18:44 < _NULL_> *yaaaaaaaawn*
18:44 < _NULL_> my cpu is too slow - much too slow *falling asleep while typing*
18:56 < _NULL_> hrmpf. subversion still has a problem
19:02 < _NULL_> i'm off again. bye
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19:25 < netrunner> https://irc.evtek.fi/urllog/2004/03/03/Hosting.jpg
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21:03 < blindy> hi hi and rehi
21:03 < holyolli> hi blindy
21:03 < holyolli> blindy: can you give me your email-address?
21:04 < blindy> it should be visible on the mailinglist, no?
21:05 < holyolli> ah..
21:05 < holyolli> <-- dumb
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21:09 < mnemoc> re
21:10 < blindy> hi hi and rehi
21:13 < mnemoc> rehi blindy
21:14 < holyolli> hi mnemoc
21:15 * blindy now gone
21:15 < blindy> good night
21:16 < holyolli> n8 blindy
21:24 < mnemoc> n8 blindy
21:24 < mnemoc> hi holyolli
21:32 < mnemoc> god... anyone with flash? https://www.yonkis.com/mediaflash/yeti_gore.htm
21:36 < holyolli> oooold ;-)
21:37 < mnemoc> :(
21:37 < mnemoc> never seen that before
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23:03 < mnemoc> *yawn*
23:05 < darix> anyone using maildrop and maildir? i want to move some mails direclty into cur/ instead of new/. any ideas how to do it?
23:05 < daja77> re
23:06 < mnemoc> daja77: so?
23:06 < daja77> hm?
23:07 < mnemoc> did you finish?
23:08 < darix> ok
23:08 < daja77> the build? yep, but need to fix 2 or 3 packages, will have a look at it in some minutes
23:09 < darix> ill be on linuxtag from tomorrow evening
23:09 < darix> is anyone else there?
23:09 < mnemoc> daja77 will be there :)
23:10 < daja77> + clifford + rxr + netrunner + fake
23:11 < darix> i know how clifford looks. that must be enough :)
23:12 < mnemoc> darix: look for the ROCKLinux banner :)
23:12 < daja77> darix: need a pic of me ;)
23:12 < darix> ill try
23:12 < darix> daja77: are you female? young? good looking? than yes ;pp
23:12 * daja77 hits darix
23:13 < daja77> <- male, old, ugly :p
23:14 < mnemoc> darix: why maildrop?
23:14 < darix> mnemoc: easier syntax?
23:15 < darix> if (/^(From|To|Cc):.*zebra\@.*zebra\.org/)
23:15 < darix> {
23:15 < darix> xfilter "reformail -a \"Status: RO\""
23:15 < darix> to $MAILHOME/.mls.zebra
23:15 < darix> }
23:15 < darix> the reformail worked with mbox
23:16 < darix> but on maildir the subfolder is important
23:16 < darix> new mail is in $MAILHOME/.mls.zebra/new. read mail in $MAILHOME/.mls.zebra/cur
23:16 < darix> mnemoc: and i dislike 40mb mbox files
23:17 < mnemoc> i have a 1.7G maildir :)
23:17 < darix> mnemoc: only 120mb :)
23:17 < darix> but i lost a lot of my mails in disk crash
23:18 < darix> cya tomorrow
23:18 < mnemoc> cu
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23:49 < holyolli> n8
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