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--- Log opened Tue Mar 09 00:00:34 2004 00:13 < daja77> re 00:13 < daja77> this sucks 00:14 < daja77> my computer i brought back from clt is broken as well as my laptop's hd on which i tested a rock install 00:14 < daja77> i now used a third laptop on konoppix 00:14 < daja77> *gna* 00:15 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-42-187.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:25 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.94.115] has joined #rocklinux 00:32 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.137.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:35 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.137.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:38 < daja77> hmm nobody here to laugh at me 00:39 < holyolli> no. 'ich fuehle mit dir' ;-) 00:39 < daja77> *ggg* 00:50 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-40-28.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:26 -!- jchoisy [~jchoisy@ALamentin-102-1-3-252.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 01:26 < jchoisy> hi there 01:30 < daja77> hi jchoisy 01:35 -!- jchoisy [~jchoisy@ALamentin-102-1-3-252.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("leaving") 01:42 -!- Robe_ [E0F@oktoberfest.amd.co.at] has joined #rocklinux 01:42 < Robe_> arrrr 01:42 < Robe_> so 01:43 < daja77> wb robe 01:44 < Robe_> servus 01:44 < Robe_> ich glaub den clifford muss man mit einem spiked club motivieren, damit er mirror server publiziert 01:44 < Robe_> hehe 01:45 < batok> are there any package related to pop3 server or imap server? 01:46 < daja77> Robe_: huh? 01:46 < daja77> batok: what do you mean with related? 01:47 < batok> I am looking for a package for pop3 server and imap3 server 01:48 < daja77> grep pop3 server package/*/*/*desc 01:56 < batok> tks, courier-imap package is for imap, but seems that there's no package for pop3 02:04 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.94.115] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.59p [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040206]") 03:02 < mnemoc> sten: -required must be the last argument 03:02 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958F7A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:03 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958FBC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:03 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 03:06 -!- Robe_ [E0F@oktoberfest.amd.co.at] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:06 -!- Robe_ [E0F@oktoberfest.amd.co.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:25 -!- hannes__ [~hannes@aszlig.net] has quit (Client Quit) 03:34 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9502DCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:49 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:28 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802525.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:46 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802CD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:42 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5B509.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:47 -!- togg [~togg@pD9534DA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:14 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.9") 06:53 < netrunne1> moin 06:53 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 07:11 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-011.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:32 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-054-051.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:03 -!- Baldzius [~user@213.226.136.82] has joined #rocklinux 09:03 < Baldzius> moin :) 09:38 < blindy> moin 10:30 < holyolli> re & moin 10:40 < holyolli> blindy: https://holyolli.dyndns.org/rocklinux/lvp-binaries 10:43 < blindy> holyolli: WEE! thanks ^_^ 10:43 < holyolli> blindy: the k6-build didn't work..i'm trying now via c3 10:43 < blindy> holyolli: ok, thanks 10:45 < holyolli> np 11:17 < netrunner> hm, how can I use gcc33 as default compiler? the menu option only shows gcc3 11:21 < netrunner> argl, it is disabled ;) 11:42 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 11:45 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit (Client Quit) 11:47 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 11:48 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit (Client Quit) 11:51 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 11:59 -!- wHiTe-WiDoW [~versager@pD9E80438.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:59 < wHiTe-WiDoW> moin 11:59 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:05 -!- wHiTe-WiDoW [~versager@pD9E80438.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("Verlassend") 12:06 < daja77> moin 12:07 < holyolli> moin daja77 :) 12:08 < daja77> moin holyolli 12:11 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 12:15 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:22 -!- Baldzius [~user@213.226.136.82] has quit () 12:22 < blindy> moin daja77 12:23 < daja77> moin blindy 12:27 -!- wHiTe-WiDoW [~versager@pD9E80E75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:30 < blindy> there are days when you should stay in bed >_< 12:58 < mnemoc> there are month when you should stay in bed :\ 12:58 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BBFD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:01 < blindy> no 13:01 < blindy> that's just a prolonged day >_< 13:02 * blindy making some coffee and then goes shopping 13:02 < blindy> bye 13:02 < holyolli> cu blindy 13:06 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p508BA08F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:32 < netrunner> ts, kdelibs take >1h to build with ver. 3.2 :( 13:34 < jsaw> netrunner: wait for the update to 3.2.1 which was just released *evil grin* 13:37 < netrunner> aaaah 13:37 < netrunner> jsaw: does it contain anything important? have you submitted it for submaster? 13:39 < jsaw> netrunner: no, I just saw the announcement. It says some important fixes... 13:40 < jsaw> biam 13:41 < cchamilt> hmm 13:41 < cchamilt> rehi 13:41 < cchamilt> what is going to happen to things like webmin and openslp? 13:41 < SMP> hi as well 13:42 < cchamilt> they were started/supported by sco. 13:43 < cchamilt> are they just dangling? 13:45 < cchamilt> I really wish openslp would go somewhere, but it needs a credible company to back it. 13:47 < SMP> noone really cares about SLP (yet) 13:58 < netrunner> cchamilt: what is the problem? if sco add's code to a gpl project, it's gpl. they don't claim those. 13:59 < netrunner> jsaw: On kde.org I can't find anything about 3.2.1 ... 14:16 < netrunner> hm, my doc has an email adress ... I wonder if I can cancel my appointment via mail ... 14:20 < jsaw> re 14:21 < mnemoc> netrunner: ask google :) 14:21 < mnemoc> https://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.2-release-plan.html <--- look at the bottom 14:21 < jsaw> https://www.kde.org/info/3.2.1.php 14:22 < mnemoc> that's better :) 14:23 < jsaw> i read it on a german news page... 14:25 < cytrinox> moin 14:32 < rxr> rehi 14:36 < mnemoc> rehi rxr 14:37 < netrunner> would anybody common with the kde-packages please update them? I do not know which packages are related to that update ... 14:43 < fake> hi 14:46 -!- apache_king [~joe@ool-18bc9802.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:47 < blindy> hi hi and rehi 14:47 < apache_king> anyone know how to permanently setup the network in rock? With redhat it was under /etc/system/ifcfg. 14:48 < blindy> apache_king: use stone 14:50 < apache_king> well I prefer to do it manually. All I need is the file naming convention and the location. 14:50 < blindy> /etc/network/config 14:51 < blindy> it's all in there 14:51 < mnemoc> apache_king: read about rocknet on our website 14:52 < mnemoc> hi blindy 14:52 < blindy> hi mnemoc 14:52 < apache_king> blindy: that directory doesn't exist? 14:53 < blindy> apache_king: well, so mkdir is your friend 14:53 < SMP> huh 14:53 < mnemoc> apache_king: what version/revison of rock you have there? 14:53 < blindy> /etc/network/ is the dir and config the file 14:53 < apache_king> 2.0 14:53 < mnemoc> :) 14:54 < apache_king> thanks blindy I figured that 14:54 < blindy> tonikaku, I'm away again 14:54 < apache_king> with redhat it was under /etc/system/ifcfg_eth0 14:54 < apache_king> I could setup virtual ips this way 14:55 < SMP> it works completely different in ROCK 14:56 < apache_king> SMP: that is what i'm trying to figure out.. 14:57 < mnemoc> apache_king: we use a single file for every interface 14:57 < SMP> you should have that directory and that file after the installation 14:57 < apache_king> nope, it never happened! 14:57 < apache_king> don't mind creating it 14:57 < apache_king> but dont if is the same way 14:58 < mnemoc> creating that dir by hand is senseless... you need rocknet and it's modules 14:59 < mnemoc> /etc/network has ./config, ./rocknet* and ./modules/ 15:00 < apache_king> Shouldn't that have been a part of the base? install 15:00 < mnemoc> # mine -l sysfiles | grep etc/network | wc -l 15:00 < mnemoc> 7 15:01 < mnemoc> it is 15:01 < apache_king> well it didn't install for me 15:01 < rxr> apache_king: you have the official final 2.0.0 x86 ISO? 15:02 < apache_king> yes 15:02 < rxr> apache_king: I (of course) tested those ISOs and they include the ROCK Net files 15:02 < rxr> what does this give you: 15:03 < rxr> mine -l sysfiles | grep etc/network 15:03 < rxr> so /. submitted 15:04 < mnemoc> =) 15:05 < apache_king> I get etc/networks which is a file 15:05 < mnemoc> uhm 15:08 < rxr> apache_king: what is the filename of the ISO you downloaded? 15:08 < rxr> SMP: do you have some SPARC knowledge and now the LED PowerOnSelfTest keyboard led blink codes ? 15:09 < SMP> no and no. 15:14 < apache_king> drock-2.0.0-rc2-rev1583+fixes-x86-pentium-mmx_cd1.iso 15:14 < apache_king> is that the final 15:14 < wHiTe-WiDoW> rc2... 15:14 < mnemoc> that's quite old :) 15:14 < apache_king> really 15:15 < mnemoc> more that 1000 revesions old 15:15 < wHiTe-WiDoW> gg 15:15 < mnemoc> actually rocknet didn't existed that time 15:16 < apache_king> well that explains it 15:16 < apache_king> where is the latest 15:16 < mnemoc> $topic 15:16 < apache_king> see rc4 but it the minimal 15:18 < mnemoc> where are you looking? 15:18 < apache_king> it seems like the official iso main site is down 15:18 < apache_king> i'm only reaching the irror 15:19 < apache_king> mirror 15:19 < mnemoc> rxr? 15:19 < daja77> re 15:20 < blindy> hmm... iso.rocklinux.de hasn't got the 2.0.0-final, tfh-berlin neither... 15:20 < mnemoc> re daja77 15:20 < blindy> what kind of release is this? 15:20 < daja77> hi mnemoc 15:20 < mnemoc> a not-mirrored one :\ 15:20 < netrunner> there is no final build yet afaik 15:20 < blindy> unorganised... sloppy... 15:21 < blindy> that's what I'd call it 15:21 < mnemoc> there is a drock 15:21 < blindy> netrunner: there IS a drock build 15:21 < blindy> but only on the currently unavailable mirror 15:21 < mnemoc> (110) Connection timed out <--- /. ? 15:21 < apache_king> yup 15:21 < mnemoc> rxr!! 15:22 < mnemoc> :( 15:22 < netrunner> blindy: ah, really? since when? 15:22 < blindy> sorry, but even I did better with LVP 15:22 < blindy> netrunner: AFAIK since clt 15:22 < daja77> he has tsill no net at home 15:23 -!- Robe_ is now known as Robe 15:23 < mnemoc> he is here... at least 10 minutes ago 15:23 < mnemoc> rxr!!!! :( 15:24 < apache_king> hmm, with the version I have can I use the build scripts to build it or am I missing to much? 15:24 < blindy> apache_king: you con use them to build it from scratch 15:24 < blindy> I doubt updating the running system would work 15:24 < netrunner> apache_king: it's dangerous, could work maybe ... 15:24 < mnemoc> me too 15:25 < netrunner> blindy: only building sysfiles and rockplug/rocknet ... 15:25 < netrunner> updating the whole sure doesn't work, to much has changed since then. 15:25 < mnemoc> apache_king: recommended way to svn co; Config; Download; Build-Target; Create-ISO; install 15:25 < apache_king> so i should create a new part and build it, huh? 15:27 < blindy> yes 15:27 < mnemoc> rene!!! 15:27 < blindy> but you don't need a new partition for that 15:28 < mnemoc> apache_king: you can do it over your current /usr/src/rock-src 15:28 < apache_king> ok 15:28 < netrunner> mnemoc: with rc2, a svn co wouldn't work. svn version to old. 15:28 * netrunner kicking svn. 15:28 < mnemoc> :\ 15:29 < blindy> there are pre-built statics 15:29 < mnemoc> there are prebuilt svn's on rene's site 15:29 < mnemoc> rsync update isn't working? 15:29 * netrunner feeling stupid to build old kde, may anybody pls update? 15:30 < SMP> how about just https://www.rocklinux.net/people/rene/stable/src/rock-src-2.0.0.tar.bz2 ? 15:30 < mnemoc> =) 15:30 < mnemoc> thanks SMP 15:30 < mnemoc> apache_king: download that :) 15:33 < apache_king> ok, lets see 15:34 < tfing> oO ( is it like 4 times i see a patch for clip-1.1.9 in a week ? ) 15:35 * netrunner now updating kde himself :/ 15:35 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9502DCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze űda brí-tenkoR") 15:35 < daja77> updating to what? 15:36 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:36 < mnemoc> 3.2.1 15:36 < apache_king> wow, those scripts are small! 15:37 < rxr> re 15:37 < daja77> wb rxr 15:37 < rxr> the -final is online 15:37 < mnemoc> <blindy> hmm... iso.rocklinux.de hasn't got the 2.0.0-final, tfh-berlin neither... 15:37 < rxr> but not on the mirrors - due to my mirrors scripts have been shown to be imperfectly sorting of the version numbers 15:37 < rxr> I'll fix this in this hour ... 15:38 < holyolli> and https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock gives a "no route to host" 15:39 < mnemoc> that was psicological slashdotting :\ 15:42 < rxr> shit 15:42 < blindy> Well, looks like we've made a fool out of ourselves again, "releasing" something that's not available 15:42 < holyolli> blindy: full ACK. 15:42 < rxr> blindy: stop trolling around here 15:42 < rxr> holyolli: totally bullshit 15:42 < blindy> rxr: stating the obvious is not trolling, IIRC 15:43 < daja77> what's the big deal 15:43 < rxr> it was all the time until some minutes ago 15:43 < holyolli> rxr: but please explain me, why it was released even many ppl voted against it on the ml? 15:43 < rxr> holyolli: blindy: if you have multiple GB / months servers available feel free to mirror the ISOs ... 15:43 < daja77> that the isos are not there, so what, we had this more often that isos were available later, as on other projects too 15:43 < blindy> rxr: iso.rocklinux.de has 15:44 < rxr> blindy: I know what iso.rocklinux.de has 15:44 < holyolli> and why don't we use the mirrors instead on an dyndns dsl-line? 15:44 < rxr> holyolli: this is a 155MBit university serfver 15:44 < blindy> daja77: yes, and then things like with apache_king happen, people taking age-old versions 15:44 < rxr> and the official name is gsmp.tfh-berlin.de wich is alwaays used 15:44 < blindy> I agree that it was a good releasing 2.0.0-final on CLT for all the publicity. 15:44 < rxr> and I guess it got disabled in the DFN due too too hight load - this is not my fault 15:45 < rxr> blindy: provide us with more server and bandwith and we would not have the problem 15:45 < mnemoc> the only fault here is not mirroring it, everything else was right 15:45 < blindy> but I don't think that an uncoordinated release is good at all. 15:45 < holyolli> rxr: svn.rocklinux-consulting isn't a 155mbit/s line? 15:45 < rxr> blindy: if localhero would not setup this damn sever so often and I would actually had a ssh account it would already be on iso.rocklinux.de 15:46 < rxr> holyolli: *.rocklinux-consulting.de does not offer ISOs 15:46 < blindy> rxr: there are THREE mirrors listed, only one of which is carrying the iso. There is sourceforge and others. Why not use it? 15:46 < holyolli> rxr: but it offers svn access 15:46 < rxr> holyolli: and what is the problem with this? 15:46 < blindy> rxr: I have one, so if you can pass me the iso I can put it there. 15:47 < blindy> rxr: we could set up a BitTorrent Tracker for the iso 15:47 < holyolli> .oO(hm. we could put the isos in edonkey ;-) 15:47 < rxr> blindy: the day has 24 hours - 7 hours of sleep 15:47 < mnemoc> holyolli: a torrent whould be nicer :) 15:47 < rxr> blindy: I can not do all myself - I already do far too much so if you do not stop fucking around here you can do all alone 15:47 < holyolli> rxr: no doubt about that sleep. but why didn't we then delay the release? 15:47 < SMP> only 7? ;) 15:47 < netrunner> updating finished, downloading sources ... 15:48 < blindy> rxr: like I said, pass me the iso and I make it available 15:48 < rxr> blindy: pushing the ISOs over my DSL line here will take quite long ... 15:49 < blindy> rxr: well, still better than nothing I'd say 15:49 < mnemoc> rxr: can't you connect somewhere inside the univ and fetch if from there? 15:49 < daja77> this is crazy, the same ppl that were lamenting about no stable release are now complaining that we did the release now 15:49 < rxr> mnemoc: I just try 15:49 < mnemoc> blocked inside too?? :\ 15:50 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not have my secret key for the other box I usually use - and currently try to remember my password ... 15:50 < rxr> rou51-23.tfh-berlin.de is eating the data ... but I do not yet know more ... 15:52 < mnemoc> this impasse is stressing :\ 15:53 < holyolli> hm. but how to solve it? 15:53 < holyolli> at which servers are the isos available? 15:54 < mnemoc> at rene's home (dsl) and at a blocked machine on his uni. 15:54 * blindy updating his bittorrent to 3.4 15:55 < holyolli> could we find any other server to host temporarily? 15:55 < holyolli> smp? 15:55 < SMP> not for public d/l 15:55 < holyolli> SMP: and if we distribute it from there to other server at a limited number of d/l? 15:56 < SMP> yes 15:56 < cchamilt> Why cant we mirror the isos along with the sources? 15:57 < SMP> that's another thing? what about the tuwien mast mirror? 15:57 < mnemoc> cchamilt: you you have the isos?? 15:57 < cchamilt> I am finishing generic 2.0.0 pentium-mmx such as it is. 15:58 < cchamilt> 40 errors, one showstopper that i can fix. 15:58 < holyolli> so what if smp downloads the isos and some of us get it from there and distribute it with bittorrent? 15:58 < mnemoc> something on pkgsel? 15:58 < cchamilt> I say we load up the src download mirror and see what happens. 15:59 < cchamilt> iproute2 is not available for downloading. So it doesn't currently build. 15:59 < netrunner> hm, bittorrenting ROCKLinux is a cool idea. sad that I have traffic limit :( 16:00 < cchamilt> I can mldonkey mine, but my line is only 1.5m. 16:01 < netrunner> hehe, only, he's funny 16:01 < mnemoc> :) 16:01 < holyolli> i also just have dsl...but flatrate and i can distribute it to 2-3 others 16:01 < holyolli> (also with bittorrent/dsl) 16:01 < mnemoc> a torrent is a great idea 16:02 < netrunner> could it be that the uninstaller has a problem? like trying only to remove dirs? could anybody please test that? 16:02 < mnemoc> netrunner: mine has a bug there 16:03 < apache_king> alright guys and gals. I guess I'll be working on the build. "I'll Be Back!" 16:03 < mnemoc> it tries to remove (sometimes) dirs before file 16:03 -!- apache_king [~joe@ool-18bc9802.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ("Leaving") 16:03 < netrunner> /root/opt/kde32/share/servicetypes/kmilo: Directory not empty 16:03 < netrunner> 106 errors while removing package kdeutils. 16:03 < netrunner> (only the last 2 lines to save your display and cchamilt's poor 1.5m ;) 16:04 < mnemoc> LOL 16:04 < mnemoc> rxr: can we share cchamilt's generic while you upload drock somewhere else? 16:05 < mnemoc> cchamilt: did you build iproute2? i can upload you the tarball is you can't download it 16:06 < cchamilt> no i cant get the cvs to produce a correct tarball in rock 16:07 * netrunner thinks about building rock inside uml, not only chrooting at stage 3 but booting the uml and building inside ... 16:08 * holyolli thinks about making it possible to dl the 2.0-release... 16:11 < rxr> I try to the tfh - it does seem to be a pysical cable whatver problem 16:11 < rxr> damn crap 16:11 < rxr> it be online again in 30 minutes oros 16:11 < holyolli> cu rxr 16:11 < mnemoc> someone you can callç? 16:12 < blindy> netrunner: I'd advise against that. UMLs are sloooooooooooooooooooooooow 16:12 < holyolli> ww 16:12 < netrunner> blindy: so make the hw faaaaaaaaaaaast to compensate :) 16:12 < mnemoc> :) 16:12 < netrunner> (would leave a few o if you look closely, but anyway ... ;) 16:18 < rolla> re 16:20 < daja77> hi rolla 16:21 < mnemoc> anyone here can inject iproute2's tarball to mirrors? 16:26 < blindy> I have it here... 16:27 < blindy> 180 kB in size 16:27 < mnemoc> can you? 16:27 < blindy> I can provide it, but not put it into the mirrors 16:28 -!- wHiTe-WiDoW [~versager@pD9E80E75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("Verlassend") 16:28 < blindy> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/iproute2-ahu-20021020.tar.bz2 16:28 < blindy> if you need it 16:29 < mnemoc> i have it too, but ppl (cchamilt) is having problems grabing it from cvs 16:29 < blindy> ah, ok 16:29 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.137.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:29 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:37 < cchamilt> ok, i should have stage 9 and various cleanups ready in 8 or so hours (Morning here). 16:38 < daja77> you still build with stage 9? 16:38 < cchamilt> look for it on donkey and maybe bittorrent. 16:38 < cchamilt> sure, why not. 16:38 < mnemoc> 40% extra time? 16:38 < daja77> it is only needed for reference build and doubles build time 16:39 < mnemoc> ccache helps a lot :) 16:39 < cchamilt> Well it is mostly done now. 16:40 < cchamilt> generic still sets it as default, so i went with defaults. 16:40 < blindy> Stage 9 breaks at ncurses 16:40 < blindy> (here at least) 16:40 < cchamilt> really? 16:40 < daja77> i disabled it on all my builds ... 16:40 < blindy> well, in -rc5 it still did 16:40 < cchamilt> == 03/09/04 23:24:56 =[9]=> Finished building package gtk+. 16:40 < cchamilt> Creating binary package file for gtk+. 16:40 < cchamilt> -> Building build/.../pkgs/gtk+-2.2.4.tar.bz2 16:40 < cchamilt> -> Building build/.../pkgs/gtk+-2.2.4.gem 16:40 < cchamilt> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2. 16:41 < cchamilt> == 23:25:26 =[9]=> Building jsaw/openjade [1.3.2 2.0.0-rc5]. 16:41 < cchamilt> -> Preparing build in src.openjade.1078845923.5585.3207481310 16:41 < cchamilt> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/9-openjade.out 16:41 < blindy> because it calls our install wrapper, which is a bash script and bash is linked against readline which in turn needs ncurses 16:41 < blindy> nice circular dependency we have there 16:41 < cchamilt> this is working here, though my host is a very old 1.5 rock that has new gcc and glibc. 16:42 < cchamilt> it makes very good builds. 16:43 < mnemoc> aarg... home's dlink router got melted again :\ ... it's not edonkey-aware 16:49 < cchamilt> OK, I am going to cherry pick and document which patches i apply. My goal will be just fixing package errors. 17:17 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:19 < rxr> hi 17:19 < rxr> gsmp.tfh-berlin.de should be reachable again 17:19 < rxr> was just the damn fucking ethernet cable 17:19 < rxr> mirror walk will be done in some minutes 17:19 < holyolli> great! 17:19 < holyolli> thx 17:20 -!- wHiTe-WiDoW [1000@pD9E8033E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:21 < mnemoc> thanks rene 17:21 < wHiTe-WiDoW> re 17:21 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:21 < mnemoc> what do u think about using a torrent for binary distribution? 17:22 < tfing> and put XXX in the filename :) 17:22 < mnemoc> that's for edoneky :) 17:22 < tfing> ROCK.LINUXXX.DVD-RIP <- should be downloaded a loooot of times :) 17:23 < holyolli> hehe 17:23 < mnemoc> LOL 17:23 < cchamilt> you could add a few more interesting meta keywords 17:24 < mnemoc> which are your favorities? 17:25 < mnemoc> -i 17:25 < tfing> -Rapaella 17:25 < tfing> -Raphaella 17:25 < mnemoc> uhm 17:26 < cchamilt> no comment 17:28 < holyolli> drock-2.0.0-final-clt-rev2490-x86-pentium-mmx_cd2.iso.jc! <-- what means the 'jc!'? 17:30 < mnemoc> it looks like somekind of download acceperator 17:32 < cchamilt> weird, just noticed syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2 did not download 17:32 < cchamilt> it doesnt get included in -all or -cfg boot -required 17:32 < mnemoc> hm? 17:33 < mnemoc> target's download are downloaded.... at least here 17:33 < cchamilt> syslinux doesnt get listed in download -all or specific to bootdisk target 17:34 < mnemoc> weird 17:34 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Download -list | grep syslinux 17:34 < mnemoc> download/x86/syslinux/syslinux-2.07.tar.bz2 17:34 < mnemoc> download/bootdisk/syslinux-2.08.tar.bz2 17:34 < mnemoc> download/router/syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2 17:34 < mnemoc> download/misc/dos_boot_etc/syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2 17:35 < cchamilt> hmm 17:35 < mnemoc> hmm too 17:35 < mnemoc> four copies, three version and none for you =) 17:37 < cchamilt> my INDEX file is wrong i think. 17:38 < mnemoc> .oO( i don't remember the last time i did a Puzzle ) 17:39 < cchamilt> lets see what it generates. 17:41 < cchamilt> fixed index, but still no syslinux 17:42 < rxr> mirror walk running (after redesigning my script ... ) 17:43 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:43 < holyolli> donkey-mirror is also coming up ;-) 17:43 < cchamilt> ohh nevermind 17:44 < rxr> ok - me off here at tfh-berlin.de - cu later when I'm back @ Valentin ... 17:44 < cchamilt> um wait a minute 17:45 < cchamilt> my bootdisk target is a clean svn checkout, yet target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh is still using syslinux 2.02 calls 17:46 < cchamilt> anybody else see this? 17:46 < cchamilt> bootdisk should be using 2.08 17:51 < cchamilt> has anybody built a bootdisk recently??? 17:51 < mnemoc> me 17:52 < cchamilt> did you see it use 2.08 syslinux? 17:52 < mnemoc> yep :) 17:53 < cchamilt> then why is my svn checked out copy of target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh trying to use 2.02? 17:53 < cchamilt> the rest of target bootdisk appears to be up to date. 17:56 < mnemoc> dammit! you are right 17:56 < cchamilt> nope, https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh is borked too. 17:56 < mnemoc> it's hardcoded 17:56 < mnemoc> cchamilt: can you patch it to grep download.txt? 17:57 < cchamilt> ugh 17:57 < cchamilt> two chars or a grep... 17:57 < mnemoc> grep is more robust :) 17:58 -!- wHiTe-WiDoW [1000@pD9E8033E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("Leaving") 18:00 < cchamilt> let me see 18:02 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (No route to host) 18:08 < cchamilt> not off hand 18:09 < fake> hm 18:10 < fake> nfs, nohide, recursively, anyone? 18:12 < cchamilt> nope, i just do single partition nfs. 18:18 < fake> hm... crossmnt ?!? 18:21 < cchamilt> no clue 18:22 < cchamilt> ok, slashdot can spend time reposting about ca did not in fact get a sco license, yet wont post about us... 18:24 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:25 -!- giftnuss [~giftnuss@p5087F565.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:32 < giftnuss> What is the best way to install submaster? 18:33 < mnemoc> giftnuss: svn checkout and copy sm.pl to ~/bin/sm 18:34 < giftnuss> all files or only sm.pl 18:34 < daja77> you need only client part? 18:36 * fake is desillusioned 18:36 < mnemoc> fake: with what? 18:37 < fake> with nfs and crossnative compile 18:40 < giftnuss> I've build some packages, I will send it to ROCK. 18:41 < mnemoc> only sm.pl then 18:45 < giftnuss> My real question is, why is the tree created by submaster not a SubMaster tree. What have I made wrong? 18:47 < mnemoc> submaster is as extension of subversion 18:48 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: togg 18:48 < mnemoc> you work over a local repository, with your own versioning and it syncs with a master repository 18:49 < giftnuss> that means a create command builds a clean tree without subversion information? 18:50 < mnemoc> nope, it has subversion info, but it points to your local subversion-'server' 18:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: togg 18:51 < giftnuss> thanks, i will ask you again if there are more probs when the local server works. 18:51 < mnemoc> cu 18:58 < holyolli> smp? 19:00 < SMP> here 19:00 < holyolli> smp: my mirror is now back online again, so if you want to, you can set www or www2.rocklinux.de back to 217.14.168.2 19:03 < SMP> it used to be 217.14.168.4? 19:03 < holyolli> ups 19:03 < holyolli> sorry... 19:03 < holyolli> take the .4 19:03 < holyolli> (better for the accounting..;-) 19:04 < SMP> done. 19:04 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB628.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 < holyolli> smp: thx 19:05 < SMP> holyolli: let's see what you say when it gets /.'ed ;> 19:06 < holyolli> but one of those addresses is still your machine? 19:06 < SMP> www, yes 19:06 < holyolli> ok 19:07 < rxr> rehi 19:09 < cchamilt> rxr: syslinux patch just sent to maillist is critical. 19:10 < cchamilt> no bootdisk without it. 19:11 < rxr> cchamilt: I saw the scrollback ... 19:14 < daja77> re 19:15 < cchamilt> rxr: I cant browse his patch, but it should be obvious. the var based fix is easiest for now. 19:15 < cchamilt> lame horde mail system... 19:15 < cchamilt> hi daja 19:16 < cchamilt> stage 9 is going good, only python acted strange. I will retry it. 19:17 < daja77> cchamilt: need some horde testing? 19:17 < cchamilt> need to remerge with the cvs i think. 19:17 < cchamilt> some strange folder handling bugs i just found, plus some other things. 19:18 < cchamilt> ill probably do it in a few weeks, want to get my rock work back together. 19:26 < cchamilt> there is something weird in this rock... 19:26 < cchamilt> libtool: link: cannot find the library `' appears in several packages 19:27 < cchamilt> i just tried paragui out of the chroot and it filled the file in: libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libSDL.la' 19:29 < rxr> to the "the ISO is not in the net" problem - gsmp.tfh-berlin.de pushed 120 GB into the net yesterday 19:30 < rxr> and 62GB the day before 19:30 < rxr> 19 GB so far today 19:30 < cchamilt> the log shows that is isnt looking for a specific '-l' (no name lib) 19:30 < holyolli> rxr: we could set the bittorrent and edonkey links also on the homepage 19:31 < rxr> /ftp/drock/stable/2.0.0/desktop/drock-2.0.0-final-clt-rev2490-x86-pentiu... 19:31 < rxr> 301 19:31 < rxr> 301 hits for the file this months - so do not blame not me for not providing the file 19:32 < rxr> the file is also on the 2nd mirror now: 19:32 < rxr> https://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~drock/stable/2.0.0/desktop/ 19:32 < rxr> s/file/files 19:32 < rxr> +/ 19:32 < rxr> holyolli: do we already have those links 19:34 < holyolli> rxr: donkey...yes..bittorrent i don't know / can't check 19:35 < rxr> ich lese mich nachher mal in bittorrent ein ... 19:36 < cchamilt> hmm, googling says this may be broken .la files. 19:36 < holyolli> rxr: iirc, netrunner wanted to write a bittorrent description file for that 19:36 < holyolli> rxr: i'll send you the ed2k:// link via mail 19:38 < cchamilt> oh god, the horror.... 19:38 < cchamilt> dependency_libs=' -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread.... 19:40 < cchamilt> libSDL.la is toasted 19:42 < cchamilt> libSDLmm.la has same thing 19:45 < cchamilt> I think avifile may have this internally 19:48 < cchamilt> SDL's screwed .la is causing errors in paragui, libmpeg2, mjpegtools, and blender. SDLs bug or an internal SDL inclusion may be causing avifile to error. 19:50 < rxr> new news entry: 19:50 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=2&tt_news=36 19:53 < cchamilt> rxr: should I just patch configure to put -lpthread in instead of -pthread? 19:58 < rxr> cchamilt: if this is the root of the problem, yes ... 19:58 < rxr> cchamilt: I just accidently closed your querry - can you repate the spamassassin patch or what was there ... ;-) ? 19:59 < cchamilt> I think libsdlmm is clean, must only get it from sdl. 19:59 < cchamilt> sure 20:04 < tcr> moin all 20:07 < tcr> cchamilt, were you talking about the sdl package? 20:07 < holyolli> hi tcr 20:07 < tcr> moin holyolli 20:07 < cchamilt> yes, sdl has -pthread in configure.in instead of -lpthread. it messes up libtool for all users of sdl. 20:08 < tcr> rxr: my mozilla places that newsbox not right after the Newsflash Article headline, but to the "the ROCK portal site" column in the navbar table 20:08 < cchamilt> i am trying a fix now, just restarted my build. 20:08 < tcr> rxr: is that intentional? 20:09 < tcr> cchamilt, Well as I sent to the ml, I built sdl two days before, though not as part of a whole build 20:09 < tcr> it built flawlessly (but apparantly, that doesn't mean anything) 20:09 < cchamilt> it builds fine, just cant be built against using libtool. 20:10 < tcr> Ah. 20:10 < cchamilt> should fix a few progs dependent on it. 20:11 < rxr> tcr: AFAIK mozilla does not render the HTML code correctly ... 20:11 < rxr> tcr: I told Clifford that it does not look good - but AFIAK noone had the fun to change the typo script in the CMS ... 20:11 < cchamilt> rxr: svn up i made still refers to itself as rc5. 20:13 < tcr> rxr: Well, it's not all that bad... mozilla tends to munge with the rights colors anyway (everytime I use another browser I'm surprised what colors certain website have which I never saw when using mozilla---that's not *that* bad either, more the opposite since I'm not that a fan of colorful website anyway) 20:13 < cchamilt> it is rev 2488. 20:14 < rolla> eth1: received irq with unknown events 0x27. Please report 20:14 < rolla> anyone seen that error before? 20:14 < holyolli> rolla: is it on your alpha? 20:14 < daja77> nope but i fight with network stuff in recent rock too 20:15 < rxr> rolla: nope 20:15 < rolla> nope 20:15 < rolla> my amd 20:15 < cchamilt> sweet libmpeg2 built now with sdl. 20:16 < rolla> on board nic card 20:16 < rolla> it freaks out alot right now 20:16 < cchamilt> via board? 20:16 < tcr> BTW. how's (been) the weather today for you? (particularly addressing the germs, erm germans) 20:17 < tcr> 10cm snow here 8) 20:17 < holyolli> tcr: cold. 6/8 broken stratus with -SN 20:17 < cchamilt> wet 20:18 < tcr> Has been quite funny :] 20:18 < holyolli> tcr: just some snowflakes.. 20:18 < tcr> Though I'm having a bad flue... 20:18 < cchamilt> no e 20:19 < tcr> I wasn't sure, but thanks 20:20 < rxr> rerunning the RegTest the fourth time 20:20 < cchamilt> i am going to get generic down to about 20 package errors i hope. 20:20 < tcr> Gonna become a nice tv evening... first a documentation about resistance against hitler and then frontal21 on zdf. 20:20 * tcr bbl 20:22 < cchamilt> shoot paragui messes with python's files. 20:22 < cchamilt> it builds though. 20:28 < rxr> cchamilt: I patches python to not reupdate the paragui files 20:28 < rxr> patched even 20:28 < rxr> worked for me ... :-( 20:28 < SMP> yes, shoot it 20:29 < cchamilt> hmm, i bet it is that python built first while paragui didnt originally. 20:30 < cchamilt> it was paragui that did the conflict. 20:30 < mnemoc> e 20:30 < mnemoc> re 20:33 < cchamilt> hmm, edge needs to be passed /opt/e17 during autogen. 20:37 < rxr> cchamilt: edje fix committed 20:37 < rxr> cchamilt: I forgot to commit it ... 20:37 < cchamilt> rxr: should package/rene/imlib2/e17.conf's line ...sh autogen.sh $enablecxx" include $confopt? 20:37 < cchamilt> oh nevermind... 20:38 -!- giftnuss [~giftnuss@p5087F565.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20040111]") 20:39 < rxr> cchamilt: version update committed 20:42 < cchamilt> ok, i will see about merging. 20:43 < cchamilt> wonder how i can make it purdy 20:43 < cchamilt> hmm, sleep is needed. 20:44 < cchamilt> n8 all 20:44 < holyolli> n8 cchamilt 20:48 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze űda brí-tenkoR") 20:56 -!- t3k|mobile [~k3t@pD9502DCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:20 < mnemoc> uhm... SM mails are not threadable :\ 21:21 < rxr> mnemoc: write clifford ... 21:21 < rxr> new handbook released 21:21 < mnemoc> good :) 21:22 < mnemoc> i also have every file in history in my download :) 21:39 < rxr> blindy: 21:39 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=2&tt_news=38 21:41 < darix> another moviex 21:42 < darix> btw: the layout is a bit funny in firefox/firebird 21:42 < darix> the box is aligned to the bottom 21:43 < mnemoc> firefox?? it got renamed?? 21:43 < tfing> mnemoc: one month ago 21:44 < mnemoc> i'll have to update :) 21:46 < mnemoc> as i should have expected the logo changed too :\ ... now i'll have to search for a 128x128 fireFOX :| 21:47 < tfing> https://texturizer.net/firefox/images/firefox-logo.png 21:47 < tfing> like this one ? 21:47 < mnemoc> :o 21:47 < mnemoc> like that one :) 21:47 < tfing> ^^ 21:48 < tfing> just like all the time, just tag a release a stable to get the bug reports :) 21:49 < mnemoc> i you don't tag nobody said nothing 21:49 < mnemoc> anything* 21:49 * tfing nods 21:50 < mnemoc> now we will have a better 2.0.1 than the 2.0.0-rc9 we would get on the same time without releasing 21:52 < mnemoc> .oO( my english is getting worse day by day ) 21:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ACK 21:53 < mnemoc> ack what? 21:53 < tfing> rxr: for the bad english ? :) 21:53 < rxr> mnemoc: tfing: nope - to the 2.0.0 release 21:53 < mnemoc> =) 21:53 < rxr> I'm off now - patches have to wait until tomorrow :-( 21:53 < mnemoc> cu rxr 21:53 < tfing> bye 21:54 -!- rammi [~strugarev@216.236.217.177] has joined #rocklinux 21:54 < rammi> hi 21:55 < mnemoc> hi t-shirt-rammi 21:56 < rammi> heh ;) nice nick .. 21:56 < mnemoc> =) 21:57 < rammi> how do you translate hello to german? 21:58 < holyolli> hallo 21:58 < holyolli> hallo rammi, btw. ;-) 21:58 < SMP> (easy, isn't it? ;) ) 21:59 < rammi> yes.. 21:59 < rammi> I don't know German .. only English.. but bad English 22:00 < holyolli> babelfish.altavista.com 22:00 < holyolli> ;-) 22:00 < holyolli> <-- uses it, too! 22:00 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:00 < mnemoc> dict.leo.org? 22:00 < rammi> i sow it, but newer tryed 22:00 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (No route to host) 22:00 < tcr> rammi, I swear you probably understand german better than I do understand your slavic language 22:01 < rammi> serbian 22:02 < mnemoc> how do you translate hello to serbian? 22:02 < rammi> zdravo 22:03 < mnemoc> that wasn't easy.... how do u pronounce it? 22:03 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:04 < rammi> zdravo :) 22:04 < rammi> our language is very easy .. 22:05 < mnemoc> to you 22:05 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:05 < rammi> ;) 22:08 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB628.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:09 < rammi> I listen Rammstein, Oomph.. but I don't have a clue what they are saying :) 22:09 < rammi> but still like them.. 22:10 < mnemoc> does your nick came from their name? 22:11 < rammi> yes.. I used [rammstein] firts, but that is a bad nickname.. 22:11 < rammi> I use rammi or ram now 22:12 < SMP> in case of Ramstein text, ignorance is bliss 22:12 < SMP> texts 22:14 < rammi> I need some time to translate it.. :( 22:15 * SMP would recommend Grönemeyer for the advanced learner ;) 22:17 < SMP> it's like Alanis Morissette in serious stream of consciousness mode ;) 22:17 < rammi> I translate it now :) 22:18 < rammi> I guess you raight.. 22:29 < rammi> cu. 22:29 < mnemoc> cu rammi 22:29 < rammi> thanks for German lessons.. 22:29 < rammi> :) 22:30 < mnemoc> bitte 22:31 < rammi> bitte? 22:32 < mnemoc> answer to thanks :) 22:32 < mnemoc> am i wrong? 22:33 < rammi> :) 22:33 < rammi> cu 22:33 -!- rammi [~strugarev@216.236.217.177] has quit () 22:39 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-011.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:58 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 23:00 -!- yhuang [~yhuang@ip68-105-182-199.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:14 < daja77> re 23:16 < daja77> rxr: here? 23:24 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:24 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.164.12.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:25 < mnemoc> seems not 23:27 < netrunner> re, 2 23:27 < netrunner> kde update seems to run well ... 23:27 < mnemoc> sm send 23:27 < tfing> 3.2.1 ? 23:28 < daja77> mnemoc: have noticed thx 23:29 < netrunner> tfing: yup 23:29 * netrunner creating cksum-patch 23:35 < netrunner> sm sent 23:36 < netrunner> (my build is at kdepim, later regressions yet unknown ;) 23:38 < daja77> only thing o've seen was kdeadmin 23:41 < netrunner> they're all updated. 23:42 < daja77> good 23:42 < daja77> <- can't do builds atm 23:42 < mnemoc> why? 23:43 < daja77> my build machine is broken 23:43 < mnemoc> define broken 23:43 < daja77> machine freezes before counting memory 23:43 < netrunner> oh, did we break it? *duck* 23:44 < daja77> netrunner: no idea, maybe i get some replacement by clt insurance 23:44 < netrunner> ah, it was at clt 23:44 < daja77> it was located at games booth this weekend 23:44 < daja77> yes 23:45 * daja77 living on knoppix again :( 23:47 < mnemoc> clt insurance? i guess those are against robbery and not against karmic hardware damage 23:48 < mnemoc> coffee damage is also covered? 23:49 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:49 < daja77> no coffee damage 23:49 < daja77> transport damage i guess 23:51 < netrunner> n8 23:51 < mnemoc> n8 netrunner 23:51 < daja77> n8 netrunner and thx 23:52 < daja77> does anyone knows if rxr sells rocklinux cds by ordering? 23:54 < holyolli> daja77: no, but this reminds me to the merchandising-mail... ;) 23:55 < daja77> got a mail via clt where to buy rocklinux cds 23:58 < A-Tui> hola 23:58 < mnemoc> hola A-Tui 23:58 < daja77> hola A-Tui --- Log closed Wed Mar 10 00:00:48 2004