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--- Log opened Tue Mar 16 00:00:14 2004 00:00 < darix> are there any devel galleries? 00:00 < darix> o.O 00:00 < daja77> on the hp, yes 00:00 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.195] has quit () 00:01 < darix> *looks* 00:05 < darix> ok 00:05 < darix> sorted out the who is who :) 00:09 < daja77> https://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200309/msg00012.html 00:11 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157005110.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:11 < dreamind> Hi 00:14 < netrunner> oh, wow https://www6.alternate.de/html/nodes_info/imal94.html 00:15 < netrunner> usbstick with 1,5GB for 119EUR 00:15 < darix> oh 00:15 * netrunner -> bed 00:15 < netrunner> n8 * 00:16 -!- netcrow_ [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00:25 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:27 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:29 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@IP-213157005110.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 00:41 < fake> *grml* 00:41 < daja77> hm? 00:41 < fake> you forgot me *snueff* 00:42 < daja77> <- is screwed 00:42 < fake> <- crying :_: 00:42 < fake> ;) 00:42 < daja77> and i even made photos of him 00:42 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817E29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:42 < fake> who - me ?? 00:42 < daja77> yep 00:43 < daja77> not uploaded anywhere :) 00:43 < fake> your a lucky boy ;P 00:43 < daja77> hehe 00:43 < daja77> indeed I am 00:44 * fake watching cheap star-trek remake on Kabel1 00:45 < darix> fake: ? 00:45 < fake> outer limits crap 00:45 < darix> uh 00:46 < darix> i would check sat.1 or rtl if i were at home. 00:46 < fake> a mix of star trek and event horizon, it seems 00:46 < fake> sat1: some damn judge series 00:46 < fake> and rtl some report 00:46 < fake> booring 00:46 < fake> s,judge,court, 00:47 < darix> uh already this late 00:47 < darix> normally there should be this NYC major comedy with micheal j fox. 00:48 < fake> yeah i know that, that's funny 00:48 < darix> and home improve should be on rtl soon 00:49 < daja77> haven't watched rtl for ages 00:49 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.94.115] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:50 < fake> the only interesting thing on sat1 is der bulle von toelz or komissar rex, but i only like those if i am absolutely square 00:51 < darix> fake: you forget about star dreck at the weekend :D 00:51 < fake> oh yeah, but the german synchronisation is horrible 00:52 < daja77> ack 00:52 < fake> i watched the 18th ep of season 3 yesterady 00:52 < fake> and now i can't await the next one 00:52 < SMP> :->> 00:52 < daja77> hi SMP 00:52 < darix> moin smp 00:53 < fake> SMP: i couldn't stand waiting, now i'm pissed :( 00:54 < SMP> take it easy ;) 00:55 < fake> yeah, i'll continue with andromeda until end of april 00:55 < daja77> new episodes? 00:55 < fake> season 4 ep 16 is on tonight on my private tv ;) 00:55 < daja77> hehe 00:55 < daja77> it is a pity that it got worse and worse 00:56 < SMP> why the hell are we building linux26 in bootdisk when we're already building linux24? 00:56 < fake> i think it gets better - except for tyrs quit 00:56 < fake> SMP: *duck* 00:56 < daja77> he quits 00:56 * fake innocent 00:57 < fake> daja77: but he reappears in the later season 4 eps 00:57 < daja77> SMP: cos rxr thinks it is needed cos on some machines 2.6 should work better than 2.4, dunno, i hate this too 00:57 < fake> it's redicilous 00:57 < fake> we can't load 2.6 modules with the current linuxrc 00:58 < daja77> all i have seen from 2.6 was brokenness 00:58 * fake is very satisifed with 2.6, except umsdosfs missing 00:59 < daja77> maybe i should test it on other machines ^^ 00:59 < fake> i haven't even bothered testeing it on mips 00:59 < daja77> hehe 01:02 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817E29.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:02 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-5.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 01:04 < fake> me want beer 01:09 < darix> what imap servers are in rocklinux so far? 01:10 < SMP> courier-imap 01:10 < darix> than i have a little suggestion for you: https://www.dovecot.org 01:10 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-51.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:11 < SMP> darix: feel free to package it 01:11 < darix> SMP: i do. just not for rocklinux. :) 01:12 < darix> and i dont have the time to learn it atm. 01:14 < fake> what's wrong with courier-imap? ;) 01:14 < darix> *looks for the link* 01:14 < SMP> lots. 01:15 < darix> fake: you know irssi i guess? 01:15 < darix> dovecot is from the same author. 01:15 < SMP> but I use courier-imap and I don't have a problem with it 01:15 < darix> cras audited all available imap servers and came to the conclusion he needed to write his own 01:16 < SMP> why the hell does an IMAP server need privilege separation?! 01:16 < darix> <@cras> https://irccrew.org/~cras/security/advisories/ - they're all listed there if someone cares :) 01:16 < darix> SMP: why does sshd need? 01:17 < darix> https://irccrew.org/~cras/security/c-guide.html https://dovecot.fi/doc/securecoding.txt 01:17 < SMP> because it would have been too hard to really fix the design 01:18 < darix> https://irccrew.org/~cras/security/os.html 01:18 < darix> https://irccrew.org/~cras/security/ for all his security stuff 01:18 < SMP> IMAP servers should not handle untrusted data as a privileged user, and thus don't need privsep 01:19 < darix> SMP: one advantage is: you can run the little imap binary via ssh tunnnel and read you mail this way. instead of extra listen 01:19 < SMP> I do that all the time with courier-imap 01:20 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit ("puts his head back on the keyb.") 01:38 < daja77> n8 01:46 < fake> ipsec on dyndns ? 01:48 < darix> fake: why not? 01:48 < fake> how? (speaking KAME) 01:49 < darix> oh i thought it was a theoretical question. :) 01:49 < darix> fake: i dont use ipsec so far. openvpn here. 01:50 < fake> openvpn is far, far away from ipsec 01:51 < darix> might be. 01:51 < darix> but its working for me. and it worked through the ltag Firewall ;) 02:02 < darix> i wonder if kame will work with cisco ipsec stuff. 02:03 < SMP> why would it not? 02:04 < SMP> I prefer isakmpd instead of racoon though 02:05 < darix> SMP: hmm 2.4 didnt work. 02:05 < darix> only with preshared secret. 02:05 < darix> and this wasnt an alternative with 1500-1800 users. 02:06 < darix> so far we can use vpnc or cisco client. 02:06 < SMP> you mean on Linux 2.4? 02:06 < darix> yes 02:06 < darix> with freeswan of course. 02:07 < fake> SMP: obsd isakmpd with dynamic ips? the ugly binary version that supports this segfaults on one of the two nodes 02:07 < SMP> blah, freeswan crap 02:07 < darix> SMP: it was the "official" ipsec solution for linux 1.5y ago 02:08 < fake> oh 'why would it not' was a reply to the cisco interop.. :( 02:08 < darix> :) 02:08 < SMP> fake: not sure what you mean by 'with dynamic ips', but -yes- my Linux ipsec node is on dynamic IP 02:08 < fake> SMP: if both sides get assigned dynamic ips by the provider 02:09 < fake> only IP is accepted in the isakmpd.conf Address= line 02:09 < SMP> because, unfortunately, OpenBSD does not support ISDN 02:09 < fake> o_O ? 02:09 < SMP> fake: both ends dynamic IP always needs a hack 02:10 < fake> hrmpf. 02:10 < SMP> but with isakmpd it is actually easier, because you can use the fifo to change the config while isakmpd is running 02:10 < fake> mesh-routing with openvpn - 5 trillion open ports... 02:10 < fake> hey, yeah... right.. 02:12 < darix> nn 02:12 < fake> you don't have such a hack's files lying around anywhere ready to be mailed by accident? 02:12 < fake> <= lazy 02:12 < SMP> no, never done this 02:13 < fake> hm, ok, then i'll schedule it for tomorrow ;) 02:13 < SMP> but I suppose it doesn't take much more than a call to dnsip (or whatever you use to get the IP for a hostname) and three 'echo's into the FIFO 02:17 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has joined #rocklinux 02:57 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 03:03 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BAD7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:03 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958FB72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:03 < jsaw> re 03:03 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958FF03.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:03 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 03:40 -!- k3t__ [k3t@pD9502DF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:56 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9502DEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:00 < mnemoc> re 04:13 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508025BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:17 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508024A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:18 -!- daja77 [[ir56pAKMF@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:19 -!- ija [[zmL7OU7Wy@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:20 -!- daja77 [[WUgZ0t4nN@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:21 -!- ija [[I8xkxZs30@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:31 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has quit ("I'd rather be lucky than good") 07:44 -!- Baldzius [~user@213.226.136.82] has joined #rocklinux 07:44 < Baldzius> moin 07:46 < Baldzius> i have a huge problem and maybe it is a known issue 07:47 < Baldzius> i did Update-System and on glibc package i got segmentation fault 07:48 < Baldzius> now almost on everything i get segmentetions and core dumps 07:49 < Baldzius> changing kernels didn't help 07:49 < Baldzius> damn, what happend? 08:00 < SMP> libc or ld-linux screwed 08:01 < SMP> what version of gcc and glibc did you have installed, what versions did Update-System build? 08:01 < SMP> do you have the original glibc.gem available? 08:05 < Baldzius> well , i don't know what is screwed 08:05 < rxr> rehi 08:06 < Baldzius> i have rock 2.0.1 scripts 08:06 < Baldzius> and ran update-system 08:06 < Baldzius> and then on glibc package build it hang 08:07 < Baldzius> now on commands like tail make umount i get core dumps 08:08 < Baldzius> should i upgrade ld-config? whit gem? 08:08 < rxr> Baldzius: reinstall the glibc .gem from the CD ... 08:09 < Baldzius> ok if it let me :) 08:09 < Baldzius> am afraid i'll get core dump :) 08:10 < Baldzius> hm i am thinking, maybe the problem is in hw like RAM or shmtg 08:10 < Baldzius> that computer is quite old 08:10 < Baldzius> everything could happen 08:11 < SMP> use the boot-cd if you can't do it from within the system 08:11 < Baldzius> ok i'll try to upgarde glibc from .gem 08:11 < SMP> and no, the problem is not hardware or kernel 08:13 < Baldzius> hm 08:18 < rxr> https://www.linux-events.de/LinuxPark/cebit04/Specials/openbooth.html 08:21 < cchamilt> Usually the best way to upgrading a glibc is to build whatever tool chain is necessary for it first - ie. new gcc and binutils... 08:22 < cchamilt> rock isnt tested for old gccs or old glibcs anymore, so it is unsafe to just update glibc first as it hasnt been tested against old stuff. 08:22 < cchamilt> after glibc is up, reboot (yes you should), then rebuild the tool chain again. 08:24 < SMP> I don't see how Update-System could build a glibc that is not backwards compatible 08:25 < cchamilt> Then if you try and compile new things you have to be careful of linking against stale (old glibc) libraries and other tool changes. 08:26 < cchamilt> Because glibc is not as smart as their developers think it is and no one tests upgrades. Almost all distros just beat the system over the head with a fresh install after the initial attempt at getting a working tool chain. 08:26 < cchamilt> The problem is not that the new glibc cant make wonderful new well working bins, it is just that they dont react to well to being stuck in an old system. 08:28 < rxr> a glibc update in a running system usually work in ROCK 08:29 < rxr> what was the old glibc used before the update? 08:29 < cchamilt> how many have you tried? 08:29 < rxr> was it over-optimized? 08:29 < rxr> a few 08:29 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/ 08:29 < cchamilt> what else did you do after? 08:29 < rxr> ^- left has a new hotspot 08:29 < rxr> cchamilt: use the system as usual 08:30 < cchamilt> No problems compiling new tools without a reboot? 08:30 < rxr> when updataing to a version w/in the same major release it does work 08:31 < rxr> Baldzius: what was the ROCK Version and GLibC version before the Update-System? 08:31 < cchamilt> Yes, I will agree that ?.?.x changes are minor. 08:32 < cchamilt> Minus stale libs. 08:32 < Baldzius> a sec. 08:32 < netrunner> we are registered for linuxtag karlsruhe btw. I take reservations :) 08:33 < rxr> netrunner: I'll come 08:33 < Baldzius> yes 08:33 < Baldzius> seems glibc update form original gem did a trick 08:33 < Baldzius> now working no more core dumps :) 08:34 < Baldzius> rxr i have 2.0.1 scripts 08:34 < netrunner> rxr: you're standard inventory ;) 08:35 < Baldzius> and now i have 2.3.2 glibc 08:35 < netrunner> Baldzius: maybe you selected an optimization that was too high. 08:35 < Baldzius> i can do emerge-system to see if problem repeats 08:36 < Baldzius> looking ... 08:37 < Baldzius> no expert mode and optimisation only for pentium2 08:37 < SMP> did you copy the config from /etc/ROCK-CONFIG/ ? don't just create a new one! 08:39 < Baldzius> no i didn't 08:39 < netrunner> SMP: why not? 08:39 < Baldzius> but i'll try to delete existing one & make new config 08:41 < cchamilt> hmm, maybe there should be a policy of updating the whole system if the tool chain is updated. 08:41 < SMP> netrunner: to make sure you get the same packages with the same options 08:45 < netrunner> SMP: isn't the package list recreated anyway when you run Config? 08:46 < SMP> yes it is. but it depends on the config (and it is deterministic ;) 08:52 < Baldzius> update-system always uses default config? 08:57 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=2&tt_news=41 08:58 < rxr> ^- any suggestions ? 09:01 < daja77> yep 09:02 < jsaw> hi all 09:02 < rxr> hi jsaw 09:02 < daja77> We'll be presenting ROCKLinux in the Openbooth area at Linuxpark. 09:03 < jsaw> rxr: why did you remove the description caching from rockplug? 09:06 < rxr> I want it readable for now - and most of the time is spent matching the moduels 09:06 < rxr> aside from the fact that it was matched two times ... 09:06 < daja77> and that it is slow 09:07 < jsaw> I talk about caching. Not about matching. 09:07 < jsaw> description caching 09:07 < rxr> yes - I first wanted to correct that those things are matched _two_ times 09:07 < jsaw> that code is not used anymore. 09:07 < rxr> which speeds up initial probing x2 two 09:08 < jsaw> if you wanted to correct the two times thing, still, what has that to do with desc caching? 09:08 < rxr> and module matching took the most time - so I chaced those 09:08 < rxr> I do not want so much stuff in it - it already became far more complex then it should have been 09:12 < jsaw> okay, 10 lines of extra code just to store the device description, ..., well? 09:12 < jsaw> then we should rip of the whole description extraction. 09:13 < rxr> btw: I still have not got what this HOST s.th. overwrite should be for ... 09:15 < jsaw> ah, good point. 09:15 < jsaw> that's for some special drivers, that do not behave well. 09:15 < jsaw> these will -with your recent changes- not be handled anymore 09:19 < daja77> pcmcia perhaps? 09:19 < rxr> which drivers should that be - and why can't they handled via the generic USB_MODULES? 09:19 < jsaw> nope, some special usb drivers 09:19 < rxr> or USB_SKIP_MODULES? 09:20 < jsaw> that's what I voted for LONG time ago, then YOU came and said, the driver itself is a pci device and thus belongs to pci 09:20 < rxr> ah yes - even better 09:21 < rxr> why can't the drivers be loaded with it ? 09:22 < jsaw> they can of course, it's a question what the user finally expects. My personal opinion is, that the usb host drivers and device drivers all belong into the usb section. Therefore ppl should use USB_HCD or so to load their special driver. 09:23 < rxr> I do not agree - it is confusing 09:23 < rxr> and adds ugly code 09:23 < jsaw> ? hmm 09:23 < jsaw> you yourself did exactly this by ripping the code from pci? 09:23 < rxr> I expect PCI devices to appear in the PCI section / code - and ISA devices in the ISA config / code 09:23 < jsaw> slightly contradicting yourself? 09:24 < rxr> when it is a PCI USB host chip it should be auto-detected by PCI - or if not possible configured to load via the PCI scripts 09:24 * netrunner just failed trying to compile openssh on the old suse6 09:25 < rxr> jsaw: I do not want extra code for it - not in PCI and neither in USB - if it can just be loaded via PCI_MODULES 09:25 < netrunner> they don't want to let me upgrade it, fear they wouldn't be able to secretly surf the inet for a few hours. 09:26 < rxr> but I'm away now again 09:26 < jsaw> rxr: AGAIN: not all usb devices report their capabilities correctly. THEREFORE, the probing of hcd and hci modules is in place. Additionally, there are some special products (I forgot which driver that is) 09:26 < daja77> netrunner: lol, 3h without pr0n? 09:26 < jsaw> that do not get detected correctly, therefore an override. 09:27 < jsaw> (well actually it gets misdetected, iirc) 09:27 < netrunner> daja77: probably. I just silently mentioned this possibility, and earned 3 balls of paper and several moans. 09:28 < daja77> hehehe 09:32 * netrunner started to write a todo to not forget stuff I want to fix in ROCK 09:33 < rxr> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=2356030&forum_id=33945 09:33 < jsaw> :) (I have a todo but it tends to grow, because it's write only...) 09:34 < daja77> hehe like my kind of todos 09:36 < jsaw> me off now, cu l8r 09:37 -!- Baldzius_ [~user@213.226.136.82] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 -!- Baldzius [~user@213.226.136.82] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:39 * netrunner found an old one and extended it. https://waterworld.dyndns.org/wiki/index.php?page=RockLinux 09:43 < rxr> jsaw: please always specify what was fixed in svn commit logs 09:43 < rxr> s.th. like "-tiny fixes" 09:43 < rxr> is _not_ helpful 09:43 < jsaw> I did. 09:43 < rxr> always specify some noun 09:43 < jsaw> what's missing? 09:44 < rxr> like "fixed xyz this and that for USB bla bla" 09:44 < rxr> Log: 09:44 < rxr> -tiny fixes 09:44 < rxr> New Revision: 164 09:46 < jsaw> should have read "typo fixes", sorry 09:47 < jsaw> but that does not have to interest you, it's outside the code path. 09:48 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail2@p213.54.169.62.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:48 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail2@p213.54.145.194.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:49 < rxr> jsaw: I just read thru my inbox 09:50 < rxr> jsaw: no problem - just wanted to mention that SVN logs need to be verbose to wrok sufficent with it ... 09:50 * rxr finally gone again 09:50 < jsaw> rxr: oh, btw, can you please change the email address? 09:50 < jsaw> don't worry, let's do that later. 09:53 < jsaw> finally I have to switch to read-only, too 09:58 < rxr> jsaw: query me the address and I'll change it 09:58 < rxr> jsaw: btw I have reviewed the PPP ROCK Net module 09:58 < rxr> jsaw: I hope you like that one more then my ROCK Plug changes 09:58 < rxr> jsaw: it now should be able to handle normal analog dial-ups 09:59 < rxr> jsaw: at least I can CSM and GPRS with my handy wirh it 09:59 < rxr> jsaw: PPP still works (tested) - but the config API changed a bit ... 09:59 * rxr really really gone now ... 09:59 * rxr yeah I know I typed it a few times now ... 10:10 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p508BAEB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:11 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BAD7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:17 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817563.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:25 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817563.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 10:27 -!- saf [~zf@213.233.88.141] has joined #rocklinux 10:27 -!- saf [~zf@213.233.88.141] has left #rocklinux () 11:16 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 11:24 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-062-072.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:32 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-060-060.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:32 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 11:59 < netrunner> what means "./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 544: mount: command not found" during 2-gcc3 ? 12:00 < netrunner> ok, that 1-util-linux did not build. 12:12 < netrunner> could somebody please verify if stage 1 builds normal? 12:18 < Baldzius_> :) 12:18 < Baldzius_> i am still compiling glibc , now without optimisations 12:19 < Baldzius_> smhtg is wrong 12:22 < netrunner> without optimizations does not work iirc. 12:25 < Baldzius_> well for now i need working glibc :) 13:16 < netrunner> Baldzius_: I think you have to select at least pentium or pentium-mmx, but this is dark memory :) 13:24 < daja77> == 13:08:17 =[1]=> Building base/linux26-src [2.6.4 2.0.1]. 13:25 < daja77> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26-src-2.6.3.tar.bz2 13:25 < daja77> huh? 13:25 * daja77 scratching his head 13:26 < netrunner> hm, deja vue 13:26 < daja77> you had this too? 13:27 < netrunner> once before a time. But cannot remember what it was. 13:28 < netrunner> something has screwed the build scripts imho. I get a several parse errors already in stage 1 13:29 < daja77> check for svn conflicts, had some too, that brake gcc3 e.g. 13:31 < daja77> restarting rt build 13:33 < rxr> netrunner: nope - no optimization means -O or -Ox 13:33 < rxr> netrunner: nothing to do with architectural optimizations 13:33 < rxr> netrunner: glibc just needs inlinning or it will not work reliable 13:33 < daja77> rxr still here :) 13:33 < rxr> netrunner: but IIRC we add it silently in the glibc package so it does -O at least to assure it will work 13:33 < rxr> daja77: I'm writting our PR paper for CeBIT here at Susan 13:33 < daja77> cool 13:33 < rxr> I'll be on the way to Hannoer in some hours 13:33 < rxr> btw. scribus sucks big time 13:33 < daja77> shall i review some stuff? 13:35 < rxr> 1.0.1 is even too instable for a simple A4 paper with two collom 13:35 < daja77> you have a mac, use quark xpress 13:35 * daja77 hides 13:43 < netrunner> rxr: ah, ok. 13:47 < netrunner> rxr: have you changed anything in the core scripts that could explain the mount thing i posted above or the "scripts/Build-Target: eval: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''" I get at the end of the failed 1-iproute2? 13:48 -!- Lorini_ [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:49 < rxr> netrunner: nopte 13:50 < rxr> netrunner: a desktop install and reference build run just fine 13:50 < rxr> I have been quite strict with changes in the freeze this time ... 13:50 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini 13:53 < netrunner> grmbl. tracing the error-that-cant-be-there :/ 13:54 < netrunner> how do I use that xtrace option? I activated it but do not have another log or so (or don't find it ;) 13:59 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 14:05 < daja77> aaargs he does it again 14:05 < daja77> claiming to build 2.6.4 and packaging 2.6.3, wtf 14:05 < rxr> netrunner: the log is between the usual log lines ... 14:05 < rxr> daja77: maybe some tag mismathed somewhere in linux26* ... 14:06 < daja77> i removed them an let svn restore them 14:09 < netrunner> maybe a patch that changes the version? 14:10 < netrunner> even better, read what is inside linux26-src/linux26-src.conf: ". $base/package/base/linux24-src/linux24-src.conf" 14:11 < netrunner> same with header ... 14:11 < netrunner> ah, no, that's 24 , sorry ;) 14:11 * netrunner getting stupid from working with windows all day 14:12 < daja77> hehe 14:26 -!- laga [laga@p508AF1AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:35 < laga> re 14:38 < rolla> re 14:51 < mnemoc> moin 14:52 < laga> strange. i installed drock (full) to build rock-srtc etc, and now, i aborts in stage 1.."Build tools.chroot/wrapper/cmd_wrapper" 14:52 < laga> "cc: installation problem, cannot exec cc1: no such file or directory" 14:55 -!- laga_ [laga@p508AEA74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:02 < tfing_> daja77: scummvm 0.6.0 is out, i emerge, test with full throttle and sm send 15:13 -!- laga [laga@p508AF1AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:27 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.135.38.144] has joined #rocklinux 15:31 < cytrinox`-> moin 15:34 < laga_> moin 15:50 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: kasc, SMP, mnemoc 15:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kasc, mnemoc, SMP 16:16 -!- nq [~Droot@203.175.64.251] has joined #rocklinux 16:18 < daja77> tfing_: k. 16:18 < daja77> when build machine is up again and after cebit i'll check my repo 16:21 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.135.38.144] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:26 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has joined #rocklinux 16:40 -!- nq [~Droot@203.175.64.251] has quit (Client Quit) 16:48 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-015.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:54 -!- Baldzius_ [~user@213.226.136.82] has quit () 17:01 < netrunner> hm, what about a sanity check that checks for -f $i && -f $i.mine && -f $i.r* ... that was the reason for my last problem. 17:01 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:02 < netrunner> ah, the other one comes from the html-output module. 17:05 < netrunner> util-linux still fails. :( blockdev.c:70: syntax error before '[' token 17:05 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has joined #rocklinux 17:06 < mnemoc> netrunner: that kind of errors use to be because a failed include 17:25 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-015.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:25 -!- k3t__ [k3t@pD9502DF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze űda brí-tenkoR") 17:25 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:27 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-015.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:28 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:30 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has joined #rocklinux 17:31 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:34 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has joined #rocklinux 18:02 < blindy> moin 18:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9987.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 < fake> i'm wondering - will gentoo be on cebit? 19:02 < laga_> which linux distros will be there? 19:02 < fake> no info on the linux media page so far 19:02 < laga_> ah, k. 19:03 < SMP> ehm 19:03 < fake> but we will ;) 19:03 < laga_> i'll not be there, i haven't found any playe to sleep :-/ 19:03 * fake will stay far, far away from the cebit 19:04 < tcr> fake: too many suits, eh? 19:04 < SMP> https://www.linux-events.de/LinuxPark/cebit04/Specials/openbooth.html 19:04 < fake> too many people! 19:04 < SMP> so Debian will be there as well, Gentoo not (at least not at the Open Booth, it seems) 19:04 < fake> SMP: uh 19:05 < fake> how did you find that, i have been looking hard... 19:05 < SMP> Rene pasted it yesterday 19:05 < fake> oh. 19:05 < fake> ... and too many 'beutelratten' 19:06 < laga_> beutelratten? hehe, i think i would be one of those :) 19:06 < laga_> .oO(..is there any rocklinux merchandise?...) 19:07 < fake> yeah, rock linux source code free for all 19:07 < laga_> cool :) 19:19 < daja77> debian is there 19:19 < daja77> i am wondering what news they have to tell 19:47 < daja77> build machine is online again 19:47 < daja77> and upgraded 20:03 < laga_> debian? hehe. "we've just upgraded xfree in our experimental tree too version 4.2.2. wooohoo!" :) 20:05 < daja77> hehe 20:06 < darix> laga_: debilian - even children package for us. 20:06 < darix> debian - we released our next stable. it is already outdated. 20:08 < laga_> hrhr. 20:08 < laga_> ok, imho debian rocks, because it is stable etc, but is very, very outdated :( 21:30 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:31 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 21:32 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:36 -!- cytrinox`- is now known as cytrinox 21:53 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9987.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 21:54 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:58 * rolla does a dance 21:58 < daja77> hi rolla, why 21:59 < rolla> I have sold 3-4 of my alpha's 21:59 < rolla> so I can buy a amd64 21:59 < daja77> hehe 21:59 * daja77 got a athlon xp 3000+ now 21:59 < rolla> cool that is better than my 2500+ 22:00 < daja77> 2.1 ghz real clock 22:00 < laga_> and i have only a xp 1800+ :( 22:00 < daja77> yep that was in the machine that died after clt 22:01 < rolla> daja77: yeah I have a 1.8Ghz 22:14 -!- josef [josef@daemon.li] has joined #rocklinux 22:14 < josef> clifford: here? 22:16 -!- shiny [~vega@p5081153F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:21 -!- laga_ [laga@p508AEA74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:29 -!- shiny [~vega@p5081153F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:29 -!- shiny [~vega@p5081153F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:32 -!- apache_king [~joe@ool-18bc9802.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:32 < apache_king> anyone around? 22:33 -!- josef [josef@daemon.li] has left #rocklinux () 22:33 < apache_king> I have been building rock 2.0 for the past 7 days 22:33 < SMP> yes 22:33 < apache_king> my tired old pc can't handle it 22:33 * netrunner just got home. 22:34 < netrunner> daja77: I still beat you with 2 2400+ :) 22:34 < daja77> hehe np with that 22:52 * netrunner still wonders why stage 1 does not compile. it did 2 weeks ago 22:59 < netrunner> util linux plain extracted and built works. 23:01 < netrunner> and the damn src.blubb dir is emtpy (but 2 files) 23:04 < netrunner> hm, the patches work 23:39 -!- Droot [~Droot@203.175.64.60] has quit (Connection timed out) 23:43 < jsaw_> re 23:43 < jsaw_> hi all 23:43 < daja77> hi jsaw_ 23:44 < jsaw_> hi daja77 23:44 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 23:46 < rxr> rehi 23:47 < daja77> wb rxr --- Log closed Wed Mar 17 00:00:28 2004