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--- Log opened Don Mär 25 12:39:48 2004 12:39 * netrunner logging :) 12:45 < StefanG> :) 12:45 < darix> netrunner: there you can find why you should use $0 ;) https://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/repositories/irssi/trunk/www.irssi.de/index.html 12:46 < netrunner> ah, ic, darix@irssi.org ;) 12:47 < darix> yeah ;) 12:55 < netrunner> YES. == 03/25/04 13:45:42 =[9]=> Finished building package nx-X11. 12:56 < darix> netrunner: was das? 12:57 < netrunner> darix: nx compression is a strong compression for the x protocol. see https://www.nomachine.com/ 12:58 < darix> ah ic 12:58 < darix> what will rocklinux do: stick with xfree86 4.3.x or switch? 13:04 < netrunner> probably update. 13:04 < netrunner> but it's not with me to decide. 13:21 ::: laga!laga@p508AF713.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 13:36 < daja77> building on rh8 fails with a strange error 13:38 < laga> re 13:39 < daja77> ah damn, sed: unknown option -i grrr 13:42 < darix> daja77: replace it with perl -pi -e 13:42 < darix> :) 13:42 < darix> sed -i is not portable enough (yet) 13:43 < daja77> bullshit 13:50 ::: tcr!~tcr@pD9EAA65D.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 14:10 < darix> daja77: ? 14:11 < daja77> i was talking about rocklinux build scripts, and replacing sed with perl is no option there 14:15 < darix> daja77: yes. but sed -i 14:15 < darix> needs a quite recent sed ... 14:17 < daja77> yeah that's why i just upgraded 14:18 < tfing> according to sed changelog, the -i was introduced in 2001 14:25 < darix> tfing: in which sed branch?:) 14:25 < tfing> just watched sed changelog 14:25 < darix> which sed? 14:26 < tfing> gnu sed 14:30 ::: tcr_!~tcr@pD9EAB33C.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 14:40 < blindy> moin 14:47 < daja77> moin blindy 14:48 ::: tcr!~tcr@pD9EAA65D.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 14:54 < cytrinox`> moin 14:59 < rolla> re 14:59 < daja77> moin rolla 14:59 < rolla> hallo daja77 15:13 ::: MadTux!~mike@master.hack-solutions.com has joined: #rocklinux 15:13 < MadTux> Good day. 15:13 < daja77> moin master mike 15:13 < laga> hi mike 15:13 < netrunner> cool. adapted stuff from xfree86 -> works in build, too :) 15:14 < MadTux> Good day Daniel and Michael. 15:14 * blindy yawns a bit 15:14 < blindy> hi maddy 15:15 < MadTux> blindy-sam! 15:15 < rolla> MadTux: 15:16 < MadTux> Master rolla, I'm honored to see you here. 15:28 < rolla> :) 15:38 < mnemoc> moin 15:39 < MadTux> Finally the old dog shows up 15:39 < mnemoc> :) 15:40 < MadTux> Good day Ale. 15:40 < mnemoc> now I am sick :p 15:40 < MadTux> sick wtf? u pathetic mortal 15:40 < mnemoc> good day don Miguel 15:40 < mnemoc> sth happens :\ 15:40 < MadTux> too bad.. 15:42 ::: mistik1_!rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net has joined: #rocklinux 15:42 < mnemoc> (i have your iso) 15:42 < MadTux> give me give me 15:43 < mnemoc> where? how? 15:43 < MadTux> u have server to upload it to? 15:43 < mnemoc> nope 15:43 < mnemoc> you have 15:44 < MadTux> grrr ok i will give u access to a box 15:44 < mnemoc> i can rsync, sftp or ftp 15:44 < MadTux> how big is the iso? 15:44 < mnemoc> do u want pubkey? 15:44 < mnemoc> 257M minimal-rev2607-pmmx_cd1.iso 15:44 < mnemoc> 108K minimal-rev2607-pmmx_index.txt 15:44 < mnemoc> 4.0K minimal-rev2607-pmmx.md5 15:45 < blindy> I'd need a Sparc ISO 15:45 < blindy> anyone has something available? 15:45 < mnemoc> rene was playing sparc iirc 15:46 < netrunner> I need Money, anyone has something available? ;) 15:46 < blindy> yeah, he promised me an iso "in a week" 15:47 ::: tcr_!~tcr@pD9EAB33C.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Remote closed the connection 15:47 < blindy> that was something 4-6 weeks ago, and seeing that he simply hasn't the time I'm now cross-compiling myself 15:47 < blindy> (on a SS20 >_<) 15:47 < mnemoc> :| 15:48 < blindy> I just need a minimal installation 15:48 < blindy> an apache, perl and mysql and I'm happy 15:49 < MadTux> well build it yourself :) 15:49 < mnemoc> with a minimal u can build your own lamp('perl') 15:50 < mnemoc> my falvor of lamp is linux+apache2+mono+postgresql :p 15:50 < mnemoc> falvor* 15:50 < mnemoc> aaar... fLavor 15:51 < MadTux> we understand u don't worry 15:51 < mnemoc> :( 15:51 < MadTux> what? 15:52 < mnemoc> i nact write prperly 15:52 < mnemoc> :\ 15:52 * mnemoc kicks mnemoc 15:52 < MadTux> yuhoo! 15:52 * MadTux joins the party and hits mnemoc with an iron chair 15:52 ::: mnemoc is now known as menomc 15:54 ::: mistik1!mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046 has quit: Client Quit 16:00 < SMP> hmmm 16:00 < menomc> hi SMP 16:00 < SMP> netrunner: nice idea. and entirely over-engineered ;) 16:01 < SMP> hi mnemoc. LAMP with mono? mod_mono is flaky at best .. 16:01 < netrunner> SMP: which one? 16:01 < SMP> netrunner: patch automatism 16:01 < netrunner> :) 16:01 < netrunner> can the following work: CC=gcc -Wall -O2 -DINSTALL_DIR=\"$(INSTALL_DIR)\" 16:02 < SMP> usually not 16:02 < SMP> can't you use CFLAGS? 16:02 < netrunner> it always fails with `INSTALL_DIR' undeclared (first use in this function) 16:03 < netrunner> SMP: the prog does that. ... how is that with CFLAGS? 16:03 < SMP> is that a line from Makefile? 16:03 < netrunner> jup 16:03 < netrunner> the error is from the compile. the CC thing is from the makefile 16:04 < SMP> well CFLAGS doesn't chance anything in that case 16:05 < netrunner> it uses INSTALL_DIR within the .c files. should I just add a #define INSTALL_DIR /usr or something? 16:06 < SMP> no, it needs INSTALL_DIR to expand to a quoted C string, hence the \"\" 16:10 < SMP> hmm, I wrote a little testcase, it works as expected 16:10 * netrunner tries to squeeze euler into a package 16:12 < SMP> what does the commandline look like that make prints during build? 16:13 < netrunner> just seen. CC is defined in the makefile with this INSTALL_DIR thing. but that gets overridden by rock 16:14 < netrunner> so I have to add a CFLAGS="\"$root/$prefix\"" to the makeopt, no? 16:14 < SMP> ah, yeah. 16:14 < SMP> uhm 16:15 ::: crazy_horsie!neto@200.243.135.203 has joined: #Rocklinux 16:15 < SMP> CFLAGS='-DINSTALL_DIR=\"$(INSTALL_DIR)\"' 16:15 < MadTux> crazy_horsie: .. blindy? 16:15 < crazy_horsie> MadTux, nope. 16:16 < crazy_horsie> Does anyone use pptpd ? 16:25 < StefanG> whats that? 16:26 < MadTux> StefanG: ever heard of vpn? 16:26 < SMP> a Point to Point Tunneling Protocol Daemon 16:26 < StefanG> heard yes :) 16:26 < crazy_horsie> yes 16:26 < MadTux> *g* 16:27 < StefanG> ahh, point to point tunneling, now its clear :) 16:27 < StefanG> never needed :) 16:27 < crazy_horsie> i'm having troubles with pptpd... it runs but do nothing; 16:30 < crazy_horsie> I need someone log's 16:31 < netrunner> it still shows only gcc-3 `glib-config --cflags` -c mainloop.c in the log. 16:32 < crazy_horsie> netrunner, when u a running pptpd the log's show like this ? 16:33 < netrunner> s/\(.*\)/SMP: \1/ 16:33 < SMP> does it use autoconf? 16:33 < SMP> I mean, an autoconf configure script 16:34 < crazy_horsie> it appears on /var/log/messengers or in /usr/log/pptpd.log ? 16:34 < SMP> crazy_horsie: different topic 16:35 < crazy_horsie> no, it doesn't . but i gues i have to re-make my network 16:35 < netrunner> SMP: nope. the main makefile says export INSTALL_DIR=/usr and then cd source && make 16:36 < netrunner> SMP: the makefile there says CC="gcc -O2 -Wall -INSTALL_DIR=\"$(INSTALL_DIR)\" 16:36 < crazy_horsie> ok. :) 16:37 < netrunner> (it has only the makefiles, no configure) 16:38 ::: holyolli!~holyolli@port-212-202-30-117.reverse.qsc.de has joined: #rocklinux 16:38 < holyolli> moin 16:38 < MadTux> aloholy! 16:38 < MadTux> query 16:39 < holyolli> MadTux! 16:45 < blindy> re 16:46 < holyolli> huhu blindy 16:47 < blindy> hi holyolli 16:57 * netrunner -> gone 16:57 < daja77> re 17:07 ::: StefanG!~StefanG@port-212-202-35-185.reverse.qsc.de has quit: "client wexeln" 17:09 ::: StefanG!~StefanG@port-212-202-35-185.reverse.qsc.de has joined: #rocklinux 17:41 < menomc> what 'osrt by version' means for `ls` ?? 17:48 < netrunner> maybe osrt -> sort? 17:49 < menomc> that typo was mine 17:50 < netrunner> *g* I knew :) 17:50 ::: aXp!axp@dsl-31-223.utaonline.at has joined: #rocklinux 17:50 < menomc> filesystem versioning is new to me :) 17:51 < netrunner> | `-v' 17:51 < netrunner> | `--sort=version' 17:51 < netrunner> | Sort by version name and number, lowest first. It behaves like a 17:51 < netrunner> | default sort, excepted that each sequence of decimal digits is 17:51 < netrunner> | treated numerically as an index/version number. (*Note More 17:51 < netrunner> | details about version sort::.) 17:51 < netrunner> info ls :) 17:52 < menomc> d'oh :) 17:55 ::: iceblox`!~iceblox@cl-165.muc-01.de.sixxs.net has joined: #rocklinux 17:55 < iceblox`> moin 17:55 < daja77> hi iceblox` 17:58 < iceblox`> hm, de/en? 17:58 < StefanG> en 17:58 < daja77> en 17:58 < menomc> EN! :) 17:58 < iceblox`> kk :) 17:58 < daja77> menomc: sure, typomnemoc 17:59 < menomc> :) 17:59 < iceblox`> so, i tried to build 2.0.0 on my hppa box (hp 9000 712), and got a: /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccsspCOv.o: relocation R_PARISC_DPREL21L can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC 17:59 ::: MadTux!~mike@master.hack-solutions.com has quit: "Lost terminal" 18:00 < iceblox`> oh, got that while -> Building tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so. 18:11 * StefanG has a problem installing rock :/ 18:11 < StefanG> he wants the 2nd disk, but i cant eject the 1st one :/ 18:12 < StefanG> hmm .. bbl 18:12 < daja77> argl 18:17 < menomc> StefanG: jump to another tty and call 'eject' :) 18:27 ::: alanjwylie!~Alan@212.69.249.174 has quit: "Leaving" 18:30 ::: IV0!~IV0@ppp-152-110.terra.net.lb has joined: #rocklinux 18:38 ::: cytrinox`!~dj-nail2@p213.54.167.220.tisdip.tiscali.de has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 18:38 ::: cytrinox`!~dj-nail2@p213.54.191.196.tisdip.tiscali.de has joined: #rocklinux 18:39 ::: IV0!~IV0@ppp-152-110.terra.net.lb has left #rocklinux: "Leaving" 18:46 < netrunner> have I mentioned that recreating the isos messes the pkg->cd# db? 18:46 < daja77> no you haven't 18:47 < netrunner> at least that is my guess. I recreated the isos and had to change them several times. 18:47 < daja77> hah, had this bug too 19:05 ::: bluefire!bluefire@p50817E83.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 19:05 ::: aXp!axp@dsl-31-223.utaonline.at has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 19:11 ::: Droot!~Janbaz@203.175.64.64 has joined: #rocklinux 19:14 < menomc> english question: i am standing, i am stood, i am standed, other? 19:15 < holyolli> stand, stood, stood iirc... 19:15 < laga> yes. 19:15 < menomc> thanks :) 19:18 < iceblox`> i am stood? 19:18 < laga> err. i'm standing, but the principle forms are stand, stood, stood :) 19:19 < iceblox`> ^_^ 19:19 ::: Droot!~Janbaz@203.175.64.64 has quit: 19:19 ::: crazy_horsie!neto@200.243.135.203 has quit: "Leaving" 19:26 < rxr> hi 19:27 < daja77> hi rxr 19:31 < daja77> rxr: is hppa cross build working in regression tester? 19:31 < netrunner> hi rxr 19:32 < daja77> netrunner: any easterhegg news i could have missed? 19:32 < netrunner> daja77: hm, clifford has registered and will be my guest, 2 19:33 < daja77> cool 19:33 < netrunner> daja77: you can help me with the rock-workshop!!! 19:33 < netrunner> :) 19:33 < netrunner> rxr: will you come too? 19:33 < daja77> netrunner: indeed, tell me what you need 19:33 < netrunner> daja77: yet everything ;) 19:34 < daja77> hehe 19:34 < rxr> netrunner: to where? 19:34 < rxr> hi btw 19:34 < rxr> easter hack s.th. -> no ... 19:34 < rxr> cu later 19:34 < netrunner> rxr: easterhegg (.de) 19:39 ::: nookie!~nookie@M375P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at has joined: #rocklinux 19:50 ::: cytrinox`!~dj-nail2@p213.54.191.196.tisdip.tiscali.de has quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 19:50 ::: cytrinox`!~dj-nail2@p213.54.191.196.tisdip.tiscali.de has joined: #rocklinux 20:22 ::: TooTall!~Snorri@62-101-126-208.fastres.net has joined: #rocklinux 20:24 ::: Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: laga, fake, dsoul 20:25 ::: Netsplit over, joins: laga, dsoul, fake 20:48 ::: MadTux!~mike@master.hack-solutions.com has joined: #rocklinux 20:49 ::: TooTall!~Snorri@62-101-126-208.fastres.net has left #rocklinux: 20:49 < StefanG> next try 20:49 < StefanG> this time with atapi cd-rom :) 20:54 < netrunner> StefanG: if it doesnt giv you the cd, change to another tty and type "eject" 20:56 < StefanG> i coult type eject direktly in the same terminal, but it said not possible :/ 20:56 < netrunner> do as you are told. 20:57 < StefanG> 2l8 21:16 < nookie> Einer von Euch mit Funktionen familiaer? 21:16 < nookie> And wants to help me with maths? :-) 21:17 < laga> <- just got 4 points in maths, 10 class :) 21:17 < nookie> Great. 21:17 < nookie> Enough points for me. :p 21:27 < rolla> yawn 21:30 ::: StefanG!~StefanG@port-212-202-35-185.reverse.qsc.de has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 21:30 < nookie> Hey rolla. :-) 21:31 ::: StefanG!~StefanG@port-212-202-35-185.reverse.qsc.de has joined: #rocklinux 21:32 < rolla> how is it going nookie 21:44 < rxr> rehi 21:46 < nookie> rolla: All fine, thank you. 21:47 < nookie> Wb rxr. 21:47 < MadTux> hello rxr 21:47 < rolla> :) 21:47 < nookie> Heya MadTux. :) 21:47 < MadTux> hi. 21:50 < menomc> re 21:51 < rxr> ok - night visit over - cu ;-) 21:51 < MadTux> wtf was that.. 21:52 < menomc> cu rxr 21:54 < rolla> hallo MadTux 21:55 * rolla just got a alpha server 4/200 21:55 ::: laga!laga@p508AF713.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Remote closed the connection 21:56 < menomc> MadTux: do u want the iso or not? 21:56 < MadTux> damn yes... 21:56 < menomc> then? 21:56 < MadTux> oh can u upload it to iso.rocklinux.de ? :) 21:56 < menomc> nope, i can't 21:56 < MadTux> why not? 21:57 < menomc> i don't have access 21:57 < MadTux> menomc: query 22:04 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BC6B.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 22:05 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BC6B.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 22:08 < StefanG> how do i install grub on disk? 22:12 < cytrinox`> gn8 22:18 < rolla> StefanG: type grub 22:18 < rolla> the root (hd0,0) if your boot is on first paration of the first disk 22:19 < rolla> then setup (hd0) 22:19 < rolla> then quit 22:19 < rolla> make sure you edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf 22:19 < StefanG> it is a scsi disk 22:19 < rolla> doesn't matter 22:19 < StefanG> ok 22:19 < rolla> it is still called sh 22:19 < rolla> hd I mean 22:21 < rolla> StefanG: let me know if that works for you. 22:23 < StefanG> thx rolla, it worx :-) 22:23 < StefanG> ohh, not really .. wrong root-fs .. next try 22:23 < rolla> what paration is your /boot on? 22:24 < StefanG> something like /dev/scsi/host0/target4... 22:24 < StefanG> :) 22:24 < StefanG> have 2 check it befor :) 22:24 < rolla> okay so it is hd2 22:24 < StefanG> hd2? 22:25 < rolla> okay when you do the root(hd0,0) line 22:25 < rolla> the hd is the disk and partition number your /boot lives on 22:25 < StefanG> ok 22:25 < rolla> so if it is on the 3rd disk and the second partition it would be root(h2,2) 22:26 < StefanG> the kernel is ok, but the roof-fs is the problem 22:26 < rolla> you can use tab completion to see what disk names it knows 22:26 < StefanG> ahh 22:26 < rolla> https://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=9#doc_chap2 22:27 < rolla> there that link should help you understand better 22:27 < rolla> grub is a really cool bootloader 22:27 < rolla> it lets you edit the boot options from the boot window incase you mess up you can fix it :) 22:28 < StefanG> problem is how do i find the correct dev-name of the root-partition? 22:28 < rolla> what line is failing? 22:28 < StefanG> kernel panic becaus he cant mount the root-fs 22:28 < rolla> the root or the setup line? 22:29 < StefanG> that was ok 22:29 < rolla> oh so you made the changes and rebooted ? 22:29 < StefanG> but if i want to boot it is not the same i sayd 22:29 < StefanG> not really 22:30 < StefanG> problem is that it is in an standard configuration 22:30 < MadTux> .oO( rolla the grub guru ) 22:30 < StefanG> and i have to say him the options at boot 22:31 * menomc with lilo for ever :p 22:32 ::: PeRpLeXeR!~chris@pD9547DC2.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 22:32 < StefanG> hehe 22:32 < PeRpLeXeR> hi everybody 22:32 < rolla> Standard as in you did not edit the config before the reboot? 22:32 < PeRpLeXeR> anyone here who got Rock work on an IBM RS 6000 570F ? 22:33 < StefanG> hmmm .. dont know :) 22:33 < PeRpLeXeR> or in german 22:33 < rolla> read that link I sent you it should help 22:33 < StefanG> yes sir :) 22:33 < PeRpLeXeR> jemand hier der rock auf ner IBM rs 6000 570F zum laufen gebracht hat? 22:34 < rolla> sorry work calls 22:34 < iceblox`> hm, or anyone got it working on a hp 712? :> 22:34 < PeRpLeXeR> Hm I think the Rs 6000 uses 4 PPC processors so Rock PPC should generally work 22:35 < PeRpLeXeR> but i tried it with gentoo PPC before and that does not work 22:37 < iceblox`> maybe it has power1 cpus? *has no clue about r6k* 22:37 < StefanG> ahh :) 22:37 < StefanG> now it works 22:38 < StefanG> was really the wrong boot partition :) 22:38 < StefanG> forgot the bus0 between host and target :) 22:53 < rolla> okay cool 22:59 ::: MadTux!~mike@master.hack-solutions.com has quit: "leaving" 23:00 ::: usermin!~usermin@adsl-68-73-54-255.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net has joined: #rocklinux 23:00 ::: usermin!~usermin@adsl-68-73-54-255.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net has left #rocklinux: "Client Exiting" 23:19 < netrunner> re 23:24 ::: PeRpLeXeR!~chris@pD9547DC2.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "Verlassend" 23:44 < tfing> svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de is down ? 23:45 < daja77> re 23:49 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BC6B.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 23:53 < tfing> hi daja77 23:53 < tfing> netrunner: i worked on a laptop-mode package earlier in the train 23:53 < daja77> hi tfing 23:54 < daja77> <- back from party, trying to start thinking again 23:54 < tfing> netrunner: for the moment, it installs the different scripts included in the documentation 23:54 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BC6B.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux --- Log closed Fre Mär 26 00:00:38 2004