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--- Log opened Mit Mär 31 00:00:41 2004 00:01 ::: alan!~alan@82-68-155-89.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk has quit: Remote closed the connection 00:12 ::: bluefire!bluefire@pD95224F3.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "leaving" 00:15 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has joined: #rocklinux 01:02 ::: kasc!~kasc@dsl-082-082-218-194.arcor-ip.net has quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 01:07 ::: kasc!~kasc@dsl-082-082-218-233.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 01:21 ::: Samus_Aran!~ILL@h24-84-80-215.vc.shawcable.net has joined: #rocklinux 01:24 < Samus_Aran> I have a couple questions: what file in /etc identifies the version of this distro (if any) and what is the package manager and any key management apps that are used ? 01:25 < tfing> 1) /etc/ROCK-VERSION 2) mine 3) stone 01:29 < Samus_Aran> do both mine and stone function with --version ? 01:29 < Samus_Aran> and can you paste me sample outputs of each 01:29 < tfing> what do you mean ? 01:30 < Samus_Aran> also could you paste me what's in /etc/ROCK-VERSION 01:30 < Samus_Aran> cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION; mine --version; stone --version 01:30 < tfing> what's the point ? 01:31 ::: Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: fake, dsoul 01:32 ::: Netsplit over, joins: dsoul, fake 01:56 ::: tfing_!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-222.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr has joined: #rocklinux 02:08 ::: nookie!~nookie@M295P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at has quit: "Lost terminal" 02:14 ::: tfing!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-153.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 02:14 ::: tfing_ is now known as tfing 03:08 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has quit: "Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!" 03:32 < Samus_Aran> tfing: the point is that I am writing a script to detect distros and basic information about that distro, and I need to know how Rock Linux does things if I'm to be able to include it 03:33 < Samus_Aran> it would be appreciated if you could paste me the output of that command: cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION; mine --version; stone --version 03:33 ::: JimBoy!jimboy@202.133.207.116 has joined: #rocklinux 03:41 < Samus_Aran> JimBoy: are you on Rock Linux right now ? 03:54 ::: JimBoy!jimboy@202.133.207.116 has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 04:04 ::: drunky!~blindcode@84.128.56.38 has joined: #rocklinux 04:04 ::: blindy!~blindcode@84.128.58.92 has quit: Nick collision from services. 04:04 ::: drunky is now known as blindy 04:12 ::: k3t_!k3t@84.128.68.169 has joined: #rocklinux 04:26 ::: trekkie3k!k3t@pD9E8DE6D.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 04:50 ::: BoS_!~bodo@dialin-212-144-019-032.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 04:50 ::: GameZ!~Admin@ool-435756c9.dyn.optonline.net has joined: #rocklinux 04:50 ::: GameZ!~Admin@ool-435756c9.dyn.optonline.net has left #rocklinux: 04:53 ::: BoS!~bodo@dialin-145-254-079-152.arcor-ip.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 05:05 ::: netrunne1!~andreas@p50802229.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has joined: #rocklinux 05:05 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 05:05 ::: Topic set by SMP Mon Mar 8 01:33:41 2004 05:05 Users #rocklinux: 05:05 [ _bg_ ] [ cytrinox`] [ Freak ] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ StefanG] 05:05 [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ iceblox] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 05:05 [ alex_i ] [ darix ] [ ija ] [ Nebukadneza] [ rxr ] [ th ] 05:05 [ blindy ] [ dsoul ] [ k3t_ ] [ netcrow ] [ Samus_Aran] [ togg ] 05:05 [ BoS_ ] [ fake ] [ kasc ] [ netrunne1 ] [ SMP ] [ true ] 05:05 [ clifford] [ founder ] [ laga_ ] [ netrunner ] [ snyke ] 05:05 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 35 nicks (@/0 +/0 -/0) 05:05 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 05:05 ::: [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 05:05 ::: Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 05:22 ::: netrunner!~andreas@p5080255E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 05:25 < Samus_Aran> could someone paste me the results of these three commands: cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION; mine --version; stone --version 05:48 ::: cytrinox`-!~dj-nail2@p213.54.172.41.tisdip.tiscali.de has joined: #rocklinux 05:50 ::: cytrinox`!~dj-nail2@p213.54.144.101.tisdip.tiscali.de has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 06:40 ::: togg!~togg@pD9534E88.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 06:46 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5B0FA.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 07:00 ::: Nebukadneza`!~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-224.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 07:03 ::: Nebukadneza!~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-018.arcor-ip.net has quit: Operation timed out 08:02 ::: BoS_ is now known as BoS 08:07 ::: Samus_Aran is now known as Samus-Aran 09:09 < netrunne1> moin 09:10 < rxr> rehi 09:10 < rxr> moin netrunne1 09:11 < netrunne1> Samus-Aran: ROCK Linux 2.0.0-rc2 (2003/09/01) -- mine 0.14 2.0.0-rc2 09:11 ::: You're now known as netrunner 09:11 < netrunner> vox has a directory traversal problem ... 09:13 < rxr> haeh? 09:13 < daja77> moin 09:13 < rxr> moin daja77 09:13 < daja77> hi rxr 09:18 < Samus-Aran> netrunner: stone doesn't exist, or doesn't have --version ? 09:19 < daja77> stone is included in mine package ... 09:21 < Samus-Aran> okay 09:22 < Samus-Aran> are there any other key apps then, than mine ? 09:22 < netrunner> rxr: you cann add something like ?content=../../../../etc/passwd to thbe index.php on their site 09:25 < daja77> Samus-Aran: what do you want to know exactly? 09:26 < Samus-Aran> daja77: just what I asked ? 09:26 < daja77> but why 09:30 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-079-122.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has quit: "leaving" 09:37 < Samus-Aran> I have a script to detect what distro a person is using and display version information of key apps 11:06 ::: founder is now known as founder-afk 11:30 < fake> boy am i bored 11:32 < daja77> hi fake 11:35 < fake> hi daja 11:35 < daja77> found some missing items for rock knoppix ^^ 11:36 < fake> Stefan Paletta's favourite GFX card: https://www.metalmachine.de/Grafixmodds/nvidiageforcefxxx%20Fake.jpg 11:37 < fake> daja77: i think they will reject the project 11:37 < daja77> oh why? 11:39 < fake> because they won't have the slightest idea what i'm talking about 11:39 < daja77> hehe 11:40 < fake> hey, my 'fake' picture moved from page 1 to page 21 on google picture search 11:40 < daja77> show them a knoppix 11:44 < fake> i'm not able to show them anything until the final exam... besides the concept 11:44 < fake> and based on the concept i hand in they decide wether the project is suitable or not 11:44 < daja77> ic 11:46 < fake> Dilbert's Desktop: https://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/desktop_diversions/images/dilbert_fake_desktop_m_1024x768.jpg 11:48 < fake> hrmp. 11:48 < fake> now the teacher switched off the proxy and i forgot my UTP cable :( 11:48 < daja77> rofl 11:49 < fake> time for some solitaire on my laptop 11:49 < fake> .oO( school is so useless ) 12:10 < SMP> fake: ;-P 12:22 ::: BoS is now known as BoS^afk 12:56 < netrunner> *g* https://www.bash.org/?258908 13:05 ::: clifford!~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at has quit: "Client exiting" 13:18 ::: k3t_!k3t@84.128.68.169 has quit: "ze űda brí-tenkoR" 14:06 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-079-122.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has joined: #rocklinux 14:06 < alex_i> Binary file for iproute2.... is not present. Skipped in package database... 14:06 < alex_i> Is it serious? 14:07 < alex_i> Looks like not, but you know better than me probably 14:08 < fake> alex_i: fatal if you plan to install via network 14:09 < alex_i> if so, should I rebuild a single package? 14:09 < fake> why did it fail? it shouldn't 14:10 < fake> try fixing the packet build error 14:10 * fake <- away 14:10 < alex_i> k 14:22 < cytrinox`-> moin 14:23 < alex_i> morning 14:26 < alex_i> no db.h... 14:27 < alex_i> Wait... looks like glibc's problem, right? 14:28 < SMP> AFAIK iproute2 likes to use db3 lately 14:29 < netrunner> SMP: oh, did it have an argument with db4? ;) 14:30 < SMP> ;p 14:31 < alex_i> db3 was the argument 14:32 < alex_i> But, it still says that db.h is not found at all! 14:33 < alex_i> ok, db_185.h is included from db.h... 14:34 < alex_i> but db_185.h is absent... 14:38 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-079-122.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has quit: "Lost terminal" 14:42 ::: holyolli!~holyolli@pD951B525.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 14:42 < holyolli> moin 14:45 < netrunner> something that is not there cannot be included. 15:08 ::: holyolli!~holyolli@pD951B525.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "Leaving" 16:45 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-079-122.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has joined: #rocklinux 16:52 < fake> https://unimut.fsk.uni-heidelberg.de/unimut/schwob?schwob_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rocklinux.de 16:52 < fake> netrunner: the first netrunner's commandment: "something that is not there cannot be included." 16:54 * daja77 laughing about that idlerpg 16:56 < alex_i> Ha-ha 16:56 < alex_i> The Bdb was not in there! 16:57 < alex_i> But I wonder, why? It should have been a dependancy for iproute, right? 16:57 < alex_i> I chose generic and minimal+xfree template 17:01 < alex_i> Huh... 17:10 ::: alex_i_!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-067-252.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has joined: #rocklinux 17:18 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-079-122.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 17:21 ::: clifford!~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at has joined: #rocklinux 17:24 < alex_i_> WTF? Why is ldconfig not there? 17:24 < alex_i_> :-o 17:47 < SMP> the pkgsel templates could use an update for recent changes in the deps ... 17:47 < SMP> and ldconfig in the glibc* packages, so ... 17:53 < alex_i_> I am getting a rock minimal iso, just in case... 17:53 < alex_i_> Anyway, why is it not bzipped? 17:54 < alex_i_> It takes so much more time to download... 17:55 < alex_i_> But I think that ldconfig should not be _missing_, right? Or this is that moving towards elf hysteria? 18:06 < alex_i_> The handbook seems to be a HOWTO document. 18:06 < alex_i_> Is there a full description of the ROCK Linux, beginning from the ideas, ending with the particular implementation. 18:18 < netrunner> second commandment: it makes no sense to compress an archive that contains compressed files. 18:19 < daja77> hehe 18:24 < fake> *g* 18:25 < alex_i_> Well, that's too. 18:25 < fake> fake's first commandment: netrunners commandments are all fake. 18:25 < alex_i_> Bzip compressed file, you meant? 18:25 < alex_i_> Otherwise... 18:25 < SMP> actually it makes more sense to compress an archive of files than to archive compressed files ;> 18:26 < alex_i_> ;) 18:26 < alex_i_> Is chroot very recommeneded? 18:26 < SMP> in which context? 18:27 < alex_i_> I did not use it in the first place. Also, the bdb was not installed, although iproute depended on it... 18:27 < alex_i_> Building a target 18:27 < alex_i_> Well, the problems with ldconfig are unexplainable... glibc installed without a problem. 18:27 < SMP> I don't see what you mean. the build scripts perform a chroot automatically 18:28 < alex_i_> Is there a problem with automatical dependancies handling? 18:28 < alex_i_> I noticed that. 18:28 < alex_i_> But why include the option ("jail") 18:28 < fake> look for ldconfig in $root/var/adm/flists/glibc 18:29 < alex_i_> I cleaned it up already. 18:29 < fake> the whole build? 18:30 < fake> do you have the glibc gem file in question? 18:30 < alex_i_> ./scripts/Cleanup 18:30 < fake> - full ? 18:30 < alex_i_> Lemme check.. 18:30 < alex_i_> no, not --full 18:30 < clifford> fake: seen the new bind mount structure? 18:30 < fake> then it's there under build/<buildid>/root/... 18:30 < fake> clifford: yes. sw33t! 18:30 < alex_i_> Yes, I do have that glibc gem 18:31 < alex_i_> build/<buildid>/pkgs/... maybe? 18:31 < fake> akex_i: build/<buildid>/root/var/adm/flists/glibc 18:31 < alex_i_> If you meant .gem? 18:31 < alex_i_> ok 18:31 < fake> clifford: once i finished my exams i'll be at it 18:31 < clifford> ok. great. 18:32 < alex_i_> I am watching the file 18:32 < fake> until then boring but marketable livecd stuff... 18:32 < fake> search for ldconfig 18:32 < clifford> maybe you could test some smap journals if you have free cpu power? 18:32 < alex_i_> glibc23: sbin/ldconfig 18:32 < alex_i_> clifford: me? 18:32 < fake> alex_i: there it is. 18:33 < alex_i_> When I run ./debug.sh it's not there. 18:33 < fake> clifford: maybe ;) pretty busy with doing nothing atm 18:33 < fake> alex_i: is it in build/<buildid>/root/sbin/ldconfig ? 18:33 < alex_i_> Also, the error log for iproute, after I installed bdb42 with Emerge-Pkg, had complaint about absent ldconfig 18:34 < alex_i_> yes, there's .../root/sbin/ldconfig 18:34 < fake> alex_i: then, where is it missing? 18:34 < alex_i_> In chroot 18:35 < fake> well, you just told me it's there: cd build/<buildid>/root && chroot . /bin/bash --login 18:35 < alex_i_> lemme ty again 18:36 < alex_i_> Ok, iproute2 build has failed again with Emerge-Pkg 18:36 < alex_i_> Now, entering src.iproute2... 18:36 < alex_i_> ./debug.sh 18:36 < fake> Emerge-Pkg does not build in a chroot 18:36 < alex_i_> and... no ldconfig 18:36 < fake> by default 18:36 < alex_i_> So, it should be specified in Config? 18:37 < fake> Emerge-Pkg builds one package on the _running_ system 18:37 < alex_i_> Anyway, even if it does not, so what? I do have ldconfig on my system. 18:37 < fake> glibc's one? 18:37 < alex_i_> yes... 18:38 < alex_i_> but, debug.sh puts me in chroot, right? 18:38 < fake> alex_i: what linux are you running? 18:38 < alex_i_> negative 18:38 < alex_i_> Debian 18:38 < alex_i_> Sarge 18:38 < alex_i_> (testing) 18:38 < alex_i_> Linux alex 2.4.25 #4 SMP Sun Mar 21 18:30:47 PST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux 18:39 < SMP> great, there's the first clown faking mail from my submaster address 18:39 * fake *mampf* 18:39 < alex_i_> ok... that may be the environmental variables settings (I mean, path) 18:40 < alex_i_> Lemme check... I'm getting the clue... 18:40 < fake> alex_i: /sbin not in path? 18:40 < alex_i_> But I have another problem besides iproute 18:40 < alex_i_> It's in the path for root 18:40 < alex_i_> I'm root... 18:40 < fake> hehe. 18:40 < alex_i_> But,That sources only /etc/profile, right? 18:41 < fake> looks like your PATH is different when you chroot. can you run debug.sh and execute set | grep PATH ? 18:41 < fake> alex_i: go ask on #debian ;) 18:41 < alex_i_> Ok, it's not included in debug.buildenv 18:42 < fake> well, then you should fix your build environment 18:42 < alex_i_> \/sbin dirs are not included in debug.buildenv, which redefines \$PATH 18:42 < fake> in fact, bash does 18:42 < alex_i_> How's that 18:42 < fake> when called by chroot 18:42 < alex_i_> bash? It does not... 18:43 < fake> yeah, well, however, are you sure you want to Emerge-Pkg iproute2 ? 18:43 < alex_i_> it does not check /root/.bashrc 18:43 < alex_i_> fake: It failed when Build-Target 18:43 < fake> it does not add the Package to your build, not that. 18:43 < fake> *note 18:43 < fake> it inserts the package getting Emerged into your _running system_ 18:44 < alex_i_> heh 18:44 ::: laga_!laga@p508AE14F.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 18:44 < alex_i_> How to deal with failed ones? 18:44 < alex_i_> Handbook tells what to use to fix, not where to go after that 18:45 < fake> alex_i: either come up with a very long and complex Build-Pkg line, or just enable 'retry building failed packages' and run Build-Target again 18:45 < alex_i_> k 18:45 < alex_i_> I have a problem with modutils as well. 18:46 < SMP> ... after removing build/stuff/root/var/adm/logs/*-iproute2.err 18:46 < alex_i_> Modutils package fails to build too 18:46 < alex_i_> It says that compiler cannot create executables 18:46 < fake> SMP: Build-Target removes iproute2.err, if retry building broken.... is enabled. blaeh :P 18:46 < alex_i_> smells like cross-compilation error 18:47 < fake> alex_i: unlikely if other packages compiled... 18:47 < SMP> oh, you're right 18:48 * fake marks this day in his .ical file 18:48 < alex_i_> hmm? What might it be then? 18:48 < fake> alex_i: you need to have diet installed on your host system 18:48 < fake> for modutils 18:48 < alex_i_> diet? never... 18:48 < fake> for bootdisk 18:48 < alex_i_> ok, lemme try ;) 18:49 < alex_i_> no, for system! 18:49 < fake> hm - then it's not used. 18:49 < alex_i_> not only bootdisk! It failed on both 18:49 < alex_i_> Would enabling jailing solve the problem? 18:49 < fake> no... jailing is something completely different 18:49 < fake> and has nothing to do with the build process 18:49 < alex_i_> Just a couple of words... 18:50 < alex_i_> ok 18:50 < alex_i_> Is there a full description of the ROCK Linux? 18:50 < alex_i_> Not a HOWTO, rather a full document that describes the architecture. 18:50 < fake> there is the Handbook and several files under Documentation and Documentation/Developer 18:50 < alex_i_> Well, Handbook is like HOWTO 18:50 < fake> and you have the source. 18:50 < fake> it's Work In Progress. 18:51 < alex_i_> Huh... but what are the ideas behing the source? 18:51 < alex_i_> That may be not obvious to figure out. 18:51 < fake> it's all in there, luke... after all it's _JUST_ a bit of shell code... can't be tooo confusing.... WUAHAHAHAHA 18:51 < alex_i_> I am talking about general ideas, not about the ideas behind the particular implementation 18:51 < fake> alex_i: <about>ROCK Linux is a Distrbution build kit.</about> 18:52 < alex_i_> ok. After I speak to that villain prof... 18:52 < fake> +i (sort it in yourself ;) 18:52 < alex_i_> no, prof is not about linux 18:52 * alex_i_ is a bit angry... 18:52 < alex_i_> ok 18:52 < fake> why? 18:52 < fake> did you pay for your copy? ;)) 18:53 < alex_i_> one of the profs is villain 18:53 < alex_i_> yes, villain! 18:53 < alex_i_> fake: Of M$? 18:53 < alex_i_> ;) 18:53 < fake> villain: Boesewicht, Schuft, Schurke 18:53 < alex_i_> I threw the last one... 4 years ago 18:53 * fake just learnt a new word 18:54 < alex_i_> I would say, Gesindel 18:54 < fake> alex_i: just play around with it some more, you're really getting at it - i need some food now. 18:54 < fake> and watch yellow ;) 18:55 < fake> EEEK 18:55 < alex_i_> fake: Are you in the US? 18:55 < fake> what are you doing to me? 18:55 < alex_i_> The ping is good... 18:55 * fake IRC n00b 18:55 < daja77> lol 18:55 < fake> alex_i_ [~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-067-252.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] requested PING 1080752605 85180 from fake 18:55 < fake> i bet that's evil 18:56 < fake> what did he just do to me? 18:56 < alex_i_> no, that's not 18:56 < fake> ;)) 18:56 < alex_i_> 0.586 seconds... 18:56 < alex_i_> That's not bad 18:56 < fake> that was my first time... *sniff* 18:57 < fake> yeah, yeah, ok ok i got it ! 18:57 < alex_i_> No... 18:57 < fake> i'm from germany 18:57 < fake> and now simpsons is on 18:57 < alex_i_> use "/ctcp <nick> <command>" 18:58 < fake> well... no PR0N from you then. ;) 18:58 < fake> hey, i'm ahead of you 18:58 < alex_i_> pr0n? 18:59 < alex_i_> ;) 19:01 < alex_i_> Ok. I've installed dietlibc and tried to rebuild. modutils failed again 19:03 < fake> with Build-Target ? 19:04 < alex_i_> yes 19:04 < alex_i_> The same error 19:04 < fake> when is it issued? whie configure runs, on first invocation after configure... ? 19:05 < alex_i_> I can show on #flood 19:05 < alex_i_> yes, when configure runs 19:06 < fake> checking for working c compiler... ? 19:06 < alex_i_> it should be... just a sec 19:07 < alex_i_> Checking for C compiler.. 19:07 < alex_i_> yes, it's 19:07 < fake> very strange. 19:08 < fake> which stage does it fail in? 19:08 < alex_i_> Immediately 19:08 < fake> i mean, which build stage - 3, 5, 9? 19:08 < fake> it's in square brackets while building 19:09 < alex_i_> 3, i think 19:09 < fake> =[<stage>]=> 19:10 < fake> and other packages built? 19:10 < alex_i_> 1 19:10 < fake> stage 1? 19:10 < alex_i_> they were fine 19:10 < alex_i_> yes 19:10 < fake> stage one uses your hosts system's environment 19:10 < fake> partly 19:11 < fake> not yet changerooted 19:11 < alex_i_> hmmm 19:12 < alex_i_> Wait! It's 2.4.26! 19:13 < alex_i_> I use kernel 2.4,25 19:13 < alex_i_> may it be the problem? 19:13 < fake> no 19:13 < fake> modutils should work on any 2.4 kernel 19:14 < fake> in stage 0 a pseudo-cross-compiler is built, as well as pseudo-cross-binutils 19:15 < fake> in stage 1, this is used to build utilities needed in an initial chroot 19:15 < fake> in stage 2, all packages are built in the chroot 19:15 < fake> this means stage 0 and 1 are a bit host system dependant 19:16 < alex_i_> I am building on i686 for i586 19:17 < fake> that's fine 19:18 < clifford> www.clifford.at/artikel/0403musik_tech.txt 19:19 < fake> clifford: cool 19:19 < fake> clifford: too much free time? 19:19 < fake> *g* 19:20 < clifford> ..oups! wrong channel in wrong network... 19:20 < daja77> clifford: read about that ccc campaign on spiegel= 19:20 < clifford> however: feel free to send feedback. ;-) 19:21 < daja77> https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,293331,00.html 19:21 < daja77> will read it then, want to phone someone now 19:22 < fake> clifford: very interesting 19:24 * fake getting food 19:28 < alex_i_> undefined reference to _dl_tls_symaddr@GLIBC_PRIVATE ... 19:29 < alex_i_> that was ld... 19:30 < alex_i_> k 19:38 < alex_i_> bye 19:38 ::: alex_i_!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-067-252.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has quit: "Lost terminal" 19:40 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-067-252.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has joined: #rocklinux 19:43 < alex_i> hmm... 19:44 < alex_i> The same error even on Gentoo... 19:47 < fake> when building modutils? 19:48 * fake never seen this 19:49 < alex_i> I'll try generic optimization then. 19:49 < alex_i> that might be optimization problem. Such errors are very common in this case. I have seen a lot of this on NetBSD. 19:50 < fake> it sounds more like debian glibc weirdness in my ears 19:50 < alex_i> Then, it should be Gentoo's problem as well? 19:50 < alex_i> Since, I'm in Gentoo now (I have 2 systems at the moment) 19:50 < alex_i> ok, 3. One is only semi-installed rock (2 out of 3 cds ;)) 19:50 < fake> maybe they both apply a patch regarding tls? 19:51 < alex_i> tls 19:51 < fake> sort-of ssl predecessor (as i got it) 19:51 < fake> successor 19:52 < alex_i> Transaction layer security? 19:52 < fake> yeah, you know, something newer 19:52 < fake> yes! 19:52 < alex_i> ok 19:52 < alex_i> Well, then both of them are BOGUS! 19:52 * alex_i hates bogus. Hates it very much. 19:52 < fake> moment... 19:52 < alex_i> k 19:53 < fake> o_O why isn't there a openssl manpage on my system? 19:53 < tfing> fake: they are installed in the wrong place 19:53 < fake> oh, great. 19:54 < tfing> not installed in fact 19:54 < fake> /usr/share/doc/openssl/man 19:54 < tfing> a make something is missing 19:54 < fake> yeah, i see it 19:55 < fake> a few dead links, that's all 19:55 * alex_i knows that he would not want stage 9 for good... 19:57 * fake once again remembers himself to build glibc with debug symbols 19:57 < alex_i> Yeah... It was a great time of LFS... 19:57 < alex_i> ;) 19:58 < fake> hey, config option in ROCK ;) 19:58 < alex_i> Funny thing, I jumped almost directly from Red F*** to LFS. 20:00 < fake> i tried LFS some moons ago 20:00 < fake> no symaddr or tls in my libc 20:01 < alex_i> yep 20:01 < alex_i> That was great... 20:01 * alex_i is tired of patched-overpatched distros 20:01 < SMP> tls in this context mean Thread-Local Storage 20:02 < fake> ah... yeah. 20:02 < alex_i> oh... 20:02 < alex_i> ew 20:05 ::: bluefire!bluefire@pD95F2007.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 20:06 ::: Nebukadneza`!~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-224.arcor-ip.net has quit: "Client exiting" 20:32 ::: Nebukadneza!~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-224.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 20:33 < alex_i> cu 20:34 < mnemoc> rsync question, to exclude the whole /sync-root/dir/ and everything bellow, what's missing here: --exclude '/dir/' 20:34 < mnemoc> cu alex_i 20:34 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-067-252.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has quit: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 20:35 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-067-252.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has joined: #rocklinux 20:39 < mnemoc> dammit!! yesterday this sth worked :( 20:40 < daja77> hi mnemoc 20:41 < mnemoc> hi daja77 :) 20:42 * alex_i is gotta throw that Debian POS 20:42 * alex_i is gonna throw away that Gentoo POS too 20:42 < alex_i> What? Wrong channel... 21:01 ::: laga!laga@84.128.210.67 has joined: #rocklinux 21:10 < alex_i> cu 21:44 ::: alex_i!~alex_i@wbar2.sea1-4-5-067-252.sea1.dsl-verizon.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 21:56 < rxr> rehi 21:57 < daja77> hi rxr 21:57 < rxr> gsmp is online again 21:57 < daja77> wow 21:58 < rxr> today I took my private hub (yeah - an older 10/100 dual speed hub fron the time where such stuff was expensive) with me to the uni 21:58 < rxr> to notice that this damn admins already plugged in the new switch 21:58 < rxr> with forgetting exactly one cable 21:58 < daja77> suckers 21:58 ::: iceblox!~iceblox@3ffe:400:cd0:0:0:0:1:3a has quit: Remote closed the connection 21:58 < daja77> they hate you? 21:58 < rxr> damn stupid persons that do not recognize when s.th. is important when one is calling a cell-phone once a day ... 21:58 < rxr> daja77: normally not 21:58 < rxr> I think those people are just plain stupid ... 21:59 * daja77 shaking head 21:59 < rxr> however with this damn long "downtime" the server has a banmdwith highscore 21:59 < rxr> 443.90 GB this months so far 22:00 < rxr> only counting apache logs - not ftp or svn:// ... 22:00 < daja77> wow 22:04 ::: iceblox!~iceblox@3ffe:400:cd0:0:0:0:1:3a has joined: #rocklinux 22:05 < daja77> cebit pics finally online ^^ 22:11 < rxr> daja77: mine? 22:12 < daja77> ours 22:12 < rxr> or better mine and yours? - they have been online for weeks ... (-- the downtime ...) 22:12 < daja77> i know >_< 22:12 < daja77> .oO (this sum is near zero) 22:13 < rxr> Oo. .... 22:14 < daja77> well let's change the subject 22:15 < daja77> btw this page is not in typo3? 22:15 < rxr> my pages? -> no 22:16 < daja77> ic 22:24 < daja77> https://www.galerielindner.de/mgf/techno.jpg 22:25 < mnemoc> re 22:25 < mnemoc> rxr: do u have a time to guide me with a rsync 'problem'? 22:31 ::: Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, clifford, cytrinox`-, founder-afk, Nebukadneza, kasc, bluefire 22:32 ::: Netsplit over, joins: Nebukadneza, bluefire, clifford, cytrinox`-, kasc, founder-afk, rolla 22:45 < rxr> mnemoc: not really 22:45 < rxr> I already logged off - when I noticed that I need to answer to an VIP mail ... 22:46 < mnemoc> rxr: np... now it's solved :) 22:46 < rxr> mnemoc: ask me tomorrow ... 22:46 < rxr> ah - ok 22:46 < mnemoc> a problem with {'s in file names 22:46 < mnemoc> Win 7 22:46 < mnemoc> oops 22:50 < owl> moin 23:04 < mnemoc> moin owl 23:06 < owl> hi mnemoc 23:06 < owl> how are you? 23:12 < rolla> re 23:12 < owl> wb rolla 23:12 < rolla> thanks 23:17 < daja77> hi rolla 23:20 < owl> someone knows "hoefner hz23" or "ortega r120 small neck"? 23:25 < owl> someone is alive? 23:26 < daja77> half 23:26 < owl> hmmm. half-alive-daja77 - how does this come? 23:27 < daja77> half in this chan 23:27 < daja77> + writing on studienarbeit 23:27 < owl> armes schwein 23:27 < daja77> *gg* 23:27 < owl> hm? 23:28 < daja77> nothing 23:28 < owl> :p 23:28 < daja77> anyway i don't know these things you are looking for 23:28 < owl> that's bad :( 23:29 < daja77> depends 23:29 < owl> why? 23:30 < owl> .oO(wtf is wrong, if your mittelfuss hurts like hell - after a horse jumped onto your feet?) 23:31 < daja77> guess your foot is wrong in that case 23:32 < owl> hmmm. wrong?as in broken? 23:32 < daja77> wtf you are talking about 23:33 < owl> about a might broken foot? and about two guitars 23:34 < daja77> guitars? 23:34 < daja77> got that part with the broken foot 23:36 < owl> yeah. i'm still searching for the right guitar... and have to select one bevor 14. april... because i want to take my guitar with me, when i'm going stationary into the psychiatry 23:36 < owl> and today a horse jumped onto my right foot... (two weeks ago he jumped onto my left two mittelzehen) 23:36 < daja77> the horse hates you *ggg* 23:37 < rolla> stationary? 23:37 < owl> yeah. it almost hat mich abgeworfen, after running into the weidezaun and bremsen im zaun... i just umklammerte the hals... otherwise i would have been on the other side of the zaun 23:37 < owl> rolla: yeah. 23:38 < owl> i will have to visit the "trauma-station" 23:40 < rolla> why? 23:40 < owl> because i'm having heavy depressions and borderline 23:41 < owl> and i have to handle my past... 23:41 < rolla> ach so 23:42 < rolla> I am sorry to hear that and hope things go well for you 23:42 < owl> thx 23:43 * daja77 too 23:43 < owl> thx --- Log closed Don Apr 01 00:00:58 2004