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01:09 < nookie_> 4. A - S - D - F - G - ??? - J - K
01:09 < nookie_> Y?
01:14 < mnemoc> H
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01:28 < sten> where do I add a usb manufacturer/device pair for hwscan to detect? (ideally, I'd like hwscan to run a script instead)
01:33 < sten> or would I do better to plug a module-loading & iwconfig script into rocknet?
01:39 < nookie_> mnemoc: Yeah, right. :)
01:54 < sten> argh, I can't figure out how to d/l from a flat "distfiles"-like dir. ./scripts/Download -alt-dir expects a download/packagename-style source
01:55 < sten> for example, I have a /home/distfiles dir, which all of the tarballs I have downloaded over the last little while. How can I save bandwidth?
02:00 < SMP> sten: no, -alt-dir does not make any assumptions about the structure of the alt-dir
02:00 < SMP> sten: but you need .tar.bz2 in alt-dir, tar.gz etc. will not work
02:01 < sten> SMP: ooh, :-) now it makes sense
02:05 < sten> SMP: can hwscan call a script, or just load modules?
02:06 < SMP> I'm not aware of any scripting hooks in hwscan
02:06 < SMP> why do you use hwscan and not rocknet?
02:06 < SMP> ehm
02:06 < SMP> rockplug
02:07 < sten> SMP: I don't like the pci scanning functionality of rockplug
02:07 < mnemoc> SMP: how can i execute something after delivery using procmail?
02:07 < SMP> mnemoc: I don't know procmail, never used it
02:07 < mnemoc> :(
02:07 < mnemoc> anyone?
02:10 < mnemoc> oh #procmail :p
02:11 * sten wonders if someone has ever executed a DOS attack, targetting procmail's command execution functionality
02:13 < mnemoc> outch
02:14 < SMP> that's impossible, procmail will die earlier because of memory exhaustion
02:14 < SMP> ;->
02:15 < sten> ohh
02:15 < mnemoc> any other choice?
02:16 < SMP> maildrop?
02:18 < mnemoc> is it cheaper?
02:19 < SMP> well, at least it was written to avoid the shortcomings of procmail
02:19 < mnemoc> that's enough to me, i'll have to start learing maildrop now
02:20 < mnemoc> learning*
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04:25 < nookie_> mnemoc: test
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10:17 < rxr> re
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10:21 < netrunner> moint
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10:26 < rxr> jsaw: around?
10:26 < rxr> jsaw: what should I do with borked GNOME packages that do not compile anymore - and are no longer maintained?
10:26 < rxr> e.g.. gnome-cups-manager ...
10:26 < rxr> jsaw: e.g.. gnome-cups-manager ...
10:26 < rxr> jsaw: I would just delete them ...
10:28 < netrunner> rxr: what about intermediate status, simply disabling them?
10:28 < netrunner> maybe a TODO in the .desc, so the paranoia check mentions it.
10:34 < rxr> via have a history with svn
10:35 < rxr> I doubt this GNOME C crap fluff is ever maintained again - they more likely write the stuff new again ...
10:35 < rxr> packages in ROCK should compile if not: a) fix b) remove ...
10:35 < rxr> it is that easy - and if we have noone willing to fix GNOME C crap -> rm -rf $borked_gnome_pkg ...
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11:04 < blokkie> greetings
11:07 < rxr> hi blokkie
11:07 [Users #rocklinux]
11:07 [ Aard ] [ daja77] [ ija ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ]
11:07 [ blindy ] [ darix ] [ jsaw ] [ nagi ] [ rxr ] [ th ]
11:07 [ blokkie ] [ dsoul ] [ k3t__ ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ true ]
11:07 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] [ valentin]
11:07 [ clifford] [ Freak ] [ mistik1] [ nookie_ ] [ StefanG]
11:07 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 29 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 29 normal]
11:07 < blokkie> hey
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11:08 < blokkie> you've seen that output yesterday I pasted , the ld error
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12:05 < blokkie> chmod 4755 file_name sets the file_name as suid root yes ?
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12:42 < netrunner> rxr: is that a gnome <26 package? or generic?
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14:28 < rxr> netrunner: gnome "core" packages needed by other packages ....
14:28 < rxr> the usual Gnome mess
15:52 < rxr> hm
15:52 < rxr> white empty here today ...
16:13 < mnemoc> moin
16:13 < rxr> moin mnemoc
16:15 < mnemoc> hi rxr
16:22 < mnemoc> Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.rocklinux.net
16:23 < rxr> works here
16:26 < mnemoc> :(
16:27 < rxr> and here, too
16:27 < rxr> ~$ ping www.rocklinux.net
16:27 < rxr> PING clifford.at (212.69.162.24): 56 octets data
16:27 < rxr> 64 octets from 212.69.162.24: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=30.2 ms
16:27 < mnemoc> don't you have the ip on /etc/hosts?
16:27 < rxr> nope
16:28 < mnemoc> uhm
16:28 < mnemoc> rl-consulting works, but rl.{o,n} doesn't for me
16:28 < rxr> and the IP ?
16:29 < mnemoc> it's back :)
16:29 < rxr> @gsmp:~$ ping www.rocklinux.net
16:29 < rxr> PING clifford.at (212.69.162.24): 56 octets data
16:29 < rxr> 64 octets from 212.69.162.24: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=21.9 ms
16:29 < mnemoc> maybe it was dns or squid stupidity
16:29 < mnemoc> (local ones)
16:30 < rxr> my home DSL line sucks so much
16:30 < rxr> $ ping www.rocklinux.net
16:30 < rxr> PING clifford.at (212.69.162.24): 56 octets data
16:30 < rxr> 64 octets from 212.69.162.24: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=82.4 ms
16:30 < rxr> the first was my prefered ISP - the 2nd gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
16:30 < rxr> the last one my crappy line ...
16:30 < mnemoc> oh
16:31 < mnemoc> 4 times, outch
16:31 < rxr> well - gsmp does not count - it is a 155Mbit DFN connection
16:31 < mnemoc> :)
16:33 < mnemoc> 64 bytes from phoenix.clifford.at (212.69.162.24): icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=251.941 msec
16:33 < mnemoc> 512/128 adsl :)
16:34 < rxr> yeah - but the other half of the world ...
16:34 < mnemoc> :p
16:34 < rxr> what is your real line latency? when you ping a box near your ISP - like your ISP gate?
16:35 < rxr> t-com / tiscali it is:
16:35 < rxr> 2 access1-dsl-b.nas.tiscali.de (62.26.136.17) 55.860 ms 54.489 ms 54.699 ms
16:35 < rxr> qsc it is:
16:35 < rxr> 1 bsn3.ber.qsc.de (213.148.128.51) 4.427 ms 3.651 ms 3.948 ms
16:36 < rxr> or after some core routing at QSC it is:
16:36 < rxr> 3 core1.fra.qsc.de (213.148.139.234) 16.863 ms 18.279 ms 17.837 ms
16:36 < mnemoc> 1 200.74.171.129 (200.74.171.129) 0.846 ms 0.839 ms 0.737 ms
16:36 < mnemoc> 2 200.74.171.253 (200.74.171.253) 2.207 ms 2.205 ms 2.268 ms
16:37 < mnemoc> but when i jump int'l...
16:37 < mnemoc> 4 192.168.14.1 (192.168.14.1) 2.699 ms 2.935 ms 2.698 ms
16:37 < mnemoc> 5 s214009-1.rtr1.s214009.usmiam1-c75c.savvis.net (66.100.63.33) 123.728 ms 137.278 ms 316.240 ms
16:56 < mnemoc> aarg... where is the option (on thunderbird) to check every folder for new mails!! :(
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17:44 < rxr> oh my
17:44 < rxr> Package gmime-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
17:44 < rxr> (just creating the first gmime.pc google hit ;-)
17:44 < rxr> damn balsa misses it ...
17:47 < rxr> oeh!?!?!?
17:47 < mnemoc> uhm?
17:47 < rxr> I just noticed that many of my gnome package problems have already been disabled
17:47 < rxr> using [P] O ... :-(
17:51 < mnemoc> LOL
17:51 < mnemoc> that's why cliff only has 13 errors :p
18:05 < rxr> nah - they have been disabled by the gnome maintainer - jsaw I guess
18:18 < nagi> moin
18:18 < rxr> moin netrunner
18:18 < rxr> nagi: even
18:18 < rxr> damn completion ....
18:18 < rxr> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
18:18 < rxr> svn: Berkeley DB error while checkpointing after Berkeley DB transaction for filesystem /home/rene/rock.sm/SVN/db:
18:18 < rxr> DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
18:18 < valentin> moin nagi
18:18 < nagi> hi rxr
18:18 < nagi> , valentin
18:19 < rxr> ^- somehow my local SVN submaster repository corrupted ... :-(
18:20 < nagi> .oO("arbeitsbeschaffungsmassnahme" - also a possibility to remove the feeling of being bored)
18:20 < mnemoc> svn loves to get corrupted :p
18:20 < rxr> .oO
18:20 < rxr> $ svnadmin recover ../rock.sm/SVN/
18:20 < rxr> Please wait; recovering the repository may take some time...
18:20 < rxr> svn: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery
18:20 < valentin> oups.
18:21 < rxr> shit damn crap - what is this - I never was able to corrupt a database so badly
18:21 < rxr> and I did nothing special ...
18:21 < rxr> damn crap shit
18:21 < rxr> committing into a RAID5, replicated, backuped repository at svn.rocklinux-consulting.de would rule so much more ...
18:21 < rxr> now I have a damn corrupted DB and some files for manual diff lying around ...
18:21 < rxr> damn - sight
18:22 < SMP> d'oh
18:23 < rxr> yeah - d'oh!
18:24 < rxr> a huge gnome update in this corrupted DB ...
18:24 < rxr> warning spam:
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18:24 < rxr> Aborted (core dumped)
18:24 < rxr> damn crap
18:26 < valentin> outch
18:26 * rxr updating from svn 1.0.0 to 1.0.2 - hopefully this will bring my database back ...
18:26 < valentin> ]r
18:26 < valentin> rxr: be shure to make a copy before experimenting with the db
18:27 < valentin> sure
18:27 < SMP> tried running a bdb recovery?
18:27 < rxr> the svnadmin frontend: yes
18:28 < SMP> does it do the same thing as db_recover?
18:29 < rxr> hm - no manpage for this beast?
18:29 < rxr> what argument is needed?
18:29 < SMP> I don't know ..
18:29 * SMP rtfm
18:30 < mnemoc> :p
18:30 < SMP> I suppose there is a manpage but our brain-dead bdb setup junks it
18:31 < rxr> brain-dead?
18:32 < netrunner> wow (german) https://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/sa/17266/1.html
18:32 < rxr> oh - damn - permission error - I might have run a commit as root
18:32 < rxr> damn crappy error messages for permission denied ...
18:33 < netrunner> they created a sniper rifle that can shoot a mini-gps sender under the skin of a victim, hurts not more than a moskito
18:33 < SMP> rxr: just in case: https://www.sleepycat.com/docs/utility/db_recover.html
18:34 < netrunner> https://www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/products_en001.htm
18:34 < rxr> SMP: I alread found that - but thanks
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18:43 [ Aard ] [ darix] [ jsaw ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ trekkie3k]
18:43 [ blindy ] [ dsoul] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] [ true ]
18:43 [ BoS^awk ] [ fake ] [ mistik1] [ nookie ] [ StefanG] [ valentin ]
18:43 [ clifford] [ Freak] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ]
18:43 [ daja77 ] [ ija ] [ nagi ] [ rxr ] [ th ]
18:43 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal]
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19:02 < rxr> why the hell does gkrellm eat as much memory as my entire X process does
19:02 * rxr headshake
19:03 < rxr> and also more then xmms ...
19:03 * rxr thinking about reimplementing gkrellm
19:03 < rxr> and I have not even themed this beast ...
19:06 < netrunner> rxr: there is an alternative. ... something with desk in the name iirc. but have only seen but not tried.
19:06 < netrunner> hm ... it's gnome, and does not want to start :/
19:13 < rxr> hm?
19:13 < netrunner> ImportError: No module named _numpy
19:13 < netrunner> gdesklets
19:21 < netrunner> ah, I rebuilt python, maybe I need to rebuild numpy as well.
19:23 < tcr> rxr: memory leak
19:23 < tcr> ?
19:24 < netrunner> hm, now numeric is found but ImportError: could not import bonobo.ui
19:24 < rxr> netrunner: gdesklets seems to be like superkaramba - I do not need such crap
19:24 < netrunner> rxr: I agree with you, gnome is crap :)
19:25 < rxr> and such desktop filling by scripting stuff, even more ...
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19:52 * netrunner just received a (spam) mail with header tag ***SCHMARRN***
19:56 < StefanG> .oO(what a schmarrn)
19:59 < mnemoc> .oO(what does it means?)
20:00 < netrunner> crap maybe, it's bavarian slang.
20:00 < netrunner> but I wonder what it does in an english spam header.
20:00 < netrunner> nonsense might fit better.
20:03 < netrunner> rxr: gkrellm takes 10m memory here. (place 7 in top right after 5 mozilla instnces and X)
20:11 < netrunner> who is willing to test-build rocklinux with gcc 3.4 ? ;)
20:47 < rxr> hm - so slient here
21:25 * netrunner stopped talking when he realized nobody was listening ;)
21:25 < rxr> .-(
21:26 < valentin> BOOOO
21:26 < netrunner> ah :)
21:43 < daja77> re
21:44 < rxr> hi daja77
21:44 < daja77> hi rxr
21:45 < netrunner> hi daja77
21:45 < daja77> hi netrunner
21:47 < daja77> hm this is strange build completed with no errors in the linux24 packages, but it claims no gems for linux24*-24.26 present
21:48 < netrunner> omfg
21:49 * netrunner just found a long unknown folder ~/irclogs where the logfiles for his 2 main channels reside.
21:49 < netrunner> they start with 2003-10-16
21:49 < daja77> they are called 2.4.25, have i missed sth
21:50 < rxr> netrunner: cool - can I scp them? so I can fill the 2003-10-30 to $today-3 or so gap?
21:50 < rxr> netrunner: are those 100% complete?
21:50 < daja77> i updated all three packages *headscratch*
21:50 < rxr> or near to say at least 98%?
21:50 < netrunner> rxr: starting with the date mentioned, yes. only the lines missing where I got disconnected.
21:51 < rxr> cool - pulling via http would be even ok, too
21:51 < rxr> netrunner: could we quickly do s.th. like that?
21:52 < netrunner> woho, I just .tar.bz2'ed them, and it makes a file of 500MB
21:52 < netrunner> ... while the directory has only 3 MB=
21:52 < netrunner> ?
21:53 < netrunner> ah, no, wrong order of options :)
21:53 < netrunner> rxr: https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/download/rocklinux-irclogs.tar.bz2
21:53 < rxr> netrunner: I need 2003-10-29 - 2004-04-22
21:56 < netrunner> rxr: there must be stuff missing where I had line problems last week. it is irssi format, so you might be able to diff it with other sources.
21:59 < rxr> this tar is just the missing gap I need - or more?
22:00 < netrunner> rxr: all I have. 2003-10-16 - 2004-04-24
22:03 < rxr> ah ok
22:05 < rxr> thanks - got it
22:09 < netrunner> hey, what about a standard "sed -i 's,usr/local,usr' Makefile" ?
22:09 < daja77> hehe
22:10 < netrunner> ah. the packacke I am angry about does not use PREFIX but PRE to save characters or whyever
22:10 < daja77> waah
22:11 < netrunner> irssistats
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22:12 < netrunner> hi Lorini_
22:12 < Lorini_> oh
22:12 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini
22:12 < Lorini> hi :)
22:13 < daja77> moin Lorini
22:17 < Lorini> hi daja
22:23 < netrunner> https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/rocklinux/irssistats/rocklinux.html
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22:27 -!- nagi is now known as fussabtreter
22:34 < valentin> fussabtreter ?
22:35 < netrunner> doormat
22:35 < valentin> yes, I know german
22:35 < netrunner> oh :)
22:35 < netrunner> reflex trained by mnemoc
22:36 < valentin> I just wanted to know why she took this nick
22:44 < fussabtreter> yeah, i'm the fussabtreter of universe.
22:46 < valentin> you can be proud - the universe strongly depends on you
22:46 < fussabtreter> nah.
23:28 < rxr> netrunner: I plan to add statistics to the official log place
23:29 < rxr> cu
23:31 < mnemoc> re
23:31 < daja77> wb mnemoc
23:32 < mnemoc> i'm the most mensioned nick :)
23:36 < mnemoc> daja77: considering you are the most sleeper person here, when do u sleep if you are top 3 in the four time blocks?
23:37 < mnemoc> "SMP likes to /kick"
23:42 < mnemoc> crontab are sync or async?
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23:56 < nookie_> https://picture.funnyjunk.com/pics/toiletpaper.jpg
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