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--- Log opened Tue Apr 27 00:04:30 2004 00:09 < rxr> mnemoc: we currently discuss the flex patch and agree that it is too risky ... 00:11 < valentin> mnemoc: are you shure undefining all those macros won't break anything ? 00:11 < valentin> sure 00:11 < valentin> why do you need to undef them ? 00:20 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:21 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M468P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:24 < rxr> hi nookie_ 00:27 -!- algorix [~mail@201008176149.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #rocklinux 00:27 -!- algorix [~mail@201008176149.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #rocklinux [] 00:31 < SMP> Deleting package/rene/k3b 00:31 < SMP> svn: Commit failed (details follow): 00:31 < SMP> svn: Out of date: 'package/rene/k3b' in transaction '3z' 00:31 < SMP> I hate it, I just hate it ... 00:39 -!- nookie [~nookie@M349P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:52 < fake> auf dem ap? 01:52 < fake> oops 01:55 < rxr> ;-) 03:59 < rxr> *wow - the slience of #rocklinux at night* 04:07 < rxr> done 04:33 < rxr> ^- oops wrong channel 05:07 < rxr> hm 05:07 < rxr> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS)(.text+0x1e): In function `__libc_csu_init': 05:07 < rxr> /home/rock-linux/src.glibc23.1078743524.3092.2224907555/glibc-2.3.2/csu/elf-init.c:64: undefined reference to `__init_array_end' 05:07 < rxr> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS)(.text+0x22):/home/rock-linux/src.glibc23.1078743524.3092.2224907555/glibc-2.3.2/csu/elf-init.c:64: undefined reference to `__init_array_end' 05:07 < rxr> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS)(.text+0x26):/home/rock-linux/src.glibc23.1078743524.3092.2224907555/glibc-2.3.2/csu/elf-init.c:64: undefined reference to `__init_array_start' 05:37 < rxr> ah - cool - now I have a Xft anti-aliasing XEmacs ... 05:39 < rxr> n8 all 06:56 < netrunner> moin 07:35 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080215B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:44 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508023E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:22 -!- nookie [~nookie@M469P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:39 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M468P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:05 * netrunne1 reading https://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html 09:05 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 09:28 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9E8DC85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:45 -!- k3t__ [k3t@pD9E8E39D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:18 -!- sascha___ [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 10:19 -!- sascha___ [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 10:20 -!- sascha___ [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 10:25 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958FEB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:25 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958FC6D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:25 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 10:30 < sascha___> hi all 10:33 < netrunner> hi sascha 10:39 < sascha___> hi netrunner 10:40 < sascha___> i've got the strange problem, that i can't change my nick =( 10:41 < netrunner> sascha___: maybe someone else is online with the nick you requested. 10:42 < sascha___> no, this nick isn't online 10:42 < sascha___> 09:37 -!- link_ The hand of the deity is upon thee, thy nick may not change (#freenode) 10:43 < sascha___> what does that mean? 10:43 < tfing> maybe you are in a moderated channel 10:43 < sascha___> this has nothing to do with a nick change... 10:44 < sascha___> strange. 10:49 < sascha___> tfing: it's the same thing, when i do '/nick link' in the statusbar =/ 10:50 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:50 < holyolli> moin 10:53 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 10:53 < link_> weee it worked :D 10:56 < BoS> moin 10:59 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit [".reboot"] 10:59 -!- sascha___ [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 11:12 < netrunner> rxr: [10:03] <|GOOSE|> Bingener Strasse 40a, 80993 Muenchen, Moosach 11:12 < netrunner> argl, I meant Forbidden 11:12 < netrunner> You don't have permission to access /irclog/ on this server. 11:12 < netrunner> damn windows needs STRG-C to copy, not only marking ;) 11:47 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080215B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["leaving"] 11:51 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080215B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:01 -!- [MCode] [MCode@cuscon10262.tstt.net.tt] has joined #rocklinux 12:06 < [MCode]> anybody here.. 12:07 -!- [MCode] [MCode@cuscon10262.tstt.net.tt] has left #rocklinux [] 12:17 < valentin> moin 13:23 < rxr> moin 13:31 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Log closed Tue Apr 27 13:39:04 2004 --- Log opened Tue Apr 27 13:41:01 2004 13:41 < rxr> netrunner: irclog directory permission corrected 14:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-19.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:07 < daja77> hi everybody 14:08 < daja77> anybody else havin binutils failing in stage 0? 14:21 * daja77 beats the µClibc maintainer 14:23 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-224.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:23 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 14:56 < rolla> re 14:58 < daja77> hi rolla 14:58 < rolla> hallo daja77 15:30 < rxr> hi daja77 rolla 15:30 < daja77> hi rxr 15:40 * jsaw now checking gcc34 package (by trying a fresh build) 15:43 -!- togg [~togg@pD9ED3A9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:51 < rxr> hi togg 15:51 [Users #rocklinux] 15:51 [ Aard ] [ darix ] [ ija ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 15:51 [ blindy ] [ dsoul ] [ jsaw ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 15:51 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ k3t_ ] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] [ true ] 15:51 [ clifford] [ Freak ] [ luckz ] [ nookie ] [ StefanG] [ valentin] 15:51 [ daja77 ] [ fussabtreter] [ mistik1] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 15:51 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 29 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 29 normal] 16:06 < mnemoc> moin 16:07 < mnemoc> daja77: uclibc was an O package.... should not interfear 16:09 < mnemoc> rxr: i build a minimal with that flex without problems, the thing is that they no longer 'allow' the use of those macros in the third part of the flex file. and that policy change breaks stuff :) 16:11 < rxr> OMG - linux kernel: 16:11 < rxr> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: 16:11 < rxr> > 16:11 < rxr> > LinuxAnt offers binary only modules without any sources. To circumvent our 16:11 < rxr> > MODULE_LICENSE checks LinuxAnt has inserted a "\0" into their declaration: 16:11 < rxr> > 16:11 < rxr> > MODULE_LICENSE("GPL\0for files in the \"GPL\" directory; for others, only 16:11 < rxr> > LICENSE file applies"); 16:12 < mnemoc> uhm 16:14 < rxr> yes - a very BIG UHM !!! 16:15 < mnemoc> how can GPL$something mean bin-only? 16:16 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:16 < holyolli> moin 16:16 < mnemoc> isn't that a fault due to a badly intensioned use of the word gpl? 16:17 < mnemoc> i understand that there is a 'good' thing in allowing kernel to load more kind of drivers, even non-open source ones, but... 16:17 < daja77> mnemoc: the uClibc patches do not apply to binutils and break the build when this package is activated, which it was by some strange accident 16:18 < mnemoc> uhm? let me see 16:18 < daja77> hm i should have kept the err files i guess :\ 16:19 < mnemoc> it's a build problem or a not-applied patch? 16:19 < daja77> not applied patches 16:21 -!- BoS [~bodo@dialin-212-144-002-178.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux [] 16:21 < mnemoc> i'll rediff it asap :) 16:21 < mnemoc> it was diffed for binutils-2.14.90.0.7 ;) 16:22 < daja77> ic 16:22 < rxr> mnemoc: this is just to prevent tainting 16:22 < rxr> mnemoc: the kernel of course loads binary only stuff - but taints it 16:22 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M367P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: the GPL\0... does prevent the tainting due to a tiny obvious strncmp or so check 16:24 < rxr> Rusty might have never tought about people trying such tricks - especially since the obviously know how the tainting works and how it is marked - so they theoretically can now be suied to open their code due to the GPL lincense enfrocement 16:24 < mnemoc> yeah, sure. if they want to use third-party drivers they can't do those checks, but they can't use GPL name on they. it's your own risk to use those modules, isn't it? 16:25 * mnemoc thinking 16:28 < mnemoc> rxr: there is any way to taint windows drivers? 16:31 < daja77> uhm do i get this right, there are suckers out there who do not release under gpl (which is fine for me) but cheating by claiming they did to prevent the tainting message? 16:32 < rxr> mnemoc: hm? Windoes drivers? 16:32 < rxr> daja77: yes 16:32 < rxr> exactly 16:32 < mnemoc> yeah, for... e.g. wifi cards :) 16:32 < daja77> sucks 16:33 < rxr> but they do not need this technically - for the functionality 16:33 < daja77> i know 16:33 < rxr> they just to do for buitification reasons 16:33 < daja77> the tainting message does no harm 16:33 < daja77> it is done by nvidia or sorcus drivers as well, at least the first work fine here 16:35 < daja77> erh i meant they do not try to supress the message 16:36 < rxr> hm - this damn wdiff never worked for me: 16:36 < rxr> $ wdiff 1 2 16:36 < rxr> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 16:36 < daja77> :( 16:36 < mnemoc> oh 16:36 < rxr> in any case I tried this piece of C crap it ever seg-faulted 16:36 < rxr> I never saw it's intended output ... 16:39 -!- nookie [~nookie@M469P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:39 < daja77> anyone wants generic isos with gnome 2.6 and kde 3.2.2 when this build is done 16:39 < mnemoc> (aarg... bintuils has changes a lot :-\ ... rediff will be hard) 16:39 < daja77> why the heck they need to patch binutils anyway 16:39 < mnemoc> to include their $archtarget 16:40 < daja77> O_o 16:40 < mnemoc> it's not -gnu$, it's -uclibc$ :) 16:40 < daja77> *shrug* 16:42 < mnemoc> uhm... where has the demangler gone?? 16:44 < mnemoc> wow! god bless config_helper.so :) 16:47 < rxr> mnemoc: big speedup? 16:48 < mnemoc> amazing 16:48 < mnemoc> in my crappy box 16:57 -!- tp [~tp@dialup-196.152.220.203.acc01-ball-lis.comindico.com.au] has joined #rocklinux 16:57 < tp> hi all :) 16:58 < tp> just (almost) finished my first compile of rovk linux, awesome, much impressed with the nice logical layout! 16:59 < tp> but I have a small problem, its the old dietlibc error, can anyone please give me a few pointers ? 17:00 < tp> Creating initrd data: 17:00 < tp> -> Create linuxrc binary. 17:00 < tp> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 8: diet: command not found 17:01 < tp> I've tried "root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg dietlibc" but getERROR: No configuration 'dietlibc' found!" ?? what am I doing erong ? " 17:02 < tp> my development system is a Gentoo box about a year old now 17:03 < tp> thanks in advance for any tips, as its 01:00 here I'm off to bed, will watch this space ... 17:03 < tp> Kudos to the Rock developers, a fantastic distro 17:03 < holyolli> hi tp 17:04 < tp> oh hi :) 17:04 < holyolli> tp: it seems as if some of the other guys have gone for a coffee ;-) 17:04 < tp> was just about to hit the sac (brain hurts, pushing what little grey matter I have way too far again) 17:04 < tp> sack 17:05 < tp> would you have any tips on my problem holyolli ? 17:05 < holyolli> tp: i don't know very much about that dietlibc issue - the best would be if you ask rxr or daja77 17:05 < tp> regarding the dietclib problem ? 17:05 < tp> ahh 17:05 < tp> what time is it there ? 17:06 < tp> I'm in australia 17:06 < tp> thanks holyolli 17:06 < dsoul> check mailinglists :) 17:06 < holyolli> tp: oh. well, must of us reside in europe. here in germany it is 17:06 now 17:06 < tp> how about the Emerge-Pkg problem ? 17:06 < mnemoc> tp: $config != $package 17:06 < holyolli> jepp 17:07 < mnemoc> tp: to create a $config you must have used ./script/Config -cfg $config 17:07 < holyolli> with -cfg you supply a config, not a packagename 17:07 < tp> I did, and found a few references, but I'm still a bit lost 17:07 < mnemoc> ls ./config 17:07 < blindy> moin 17:07 < tp> ahh, I *beginning* to get a clue 17:07 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg [ -cfg $config ] $package 17:08 < holyolli> moin blindy 17:08 < blindy> damn, damn, DAMN 17:08 < blindy> compiling XFree statically needs >800MB 17:08 < holyolli> blindy?? 17:08 < tp> mnemoc: thanks 17:08 < mnemoc> the $config set the optimization and teach Emerge-Package what other things you have in your system 17:08 < mnemoc> hi blindy 17:08 < mnemoc> tp: good luck ;) 17:08 < blindy> holyolli: my build broke with "No more space left on device" using tmpfs 17:08 < tp> mnemoc: whats missing from my command here ? "./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg dietlibc" 17:08 < holyolli> blindy: ah. 17:09 < tp> I don't understand the $config 17:09 < mnemoc> tp: what your wrote means: install <null> in my local system using ./config/dietlibc as config 17:10 < tp> oh 17:10 < dsoul> tp Emerge-Pkg -- help :) 17:10 < dsoul> or handbook :) 17:11 < rxr> tp: regarding dietlibc 17:11 < rxr> you need dietlibc install on your system in order to build the cd boot-code 17:11 < tp> how about I put it this way ? I need to manually install dietlibc can someone give me a pointer how to do it ? 17:11 < rxr> just run Build-Pkg (or Emerge-Pkg) dietlibc - to install it ad-hoc 17:11 < tp> rxr: thanks, I know that following reading the mail lists 17:11 < mnemoc> but he has to set a config first 17:12 < tp> yes I don't understand the config part 17:12 < blindy> rxr: any thoughts on Sonar? 17:12 < tp> I'm a electronics tech by profesion and a lousy coder :) 17:12 < dsoul> tp ./scripts/Config -cfg <configlabel> 17:12 < mnemoc> tp: on rock you can't just install a package, you have to set a 'context' 17:12 < dsoul> then set config options 17:13 < tp> ahh 17:13 < rxr> blindy: I want to add this to the regression testeer side - to search in the full build regresion test data I have lying around anyway ... 17:13 < tp> my gentoo bias is showing ? 17:13 < dsoul> and then ./scripts/Emrge-Pkg package-name 17:13 < dsoul> ./scripts/Emrege-Pkg -cfg <configlabel> package-name :) 17:14 < blindy> rxr: hmm... being able to search through recent trunk might be one thing, but what about releases? 17:14 < tp> dsoul: so "system" would be a suitable context here ? 17:16 < tp> dsoul: actually the last contest I used was "bootdisk" 17:17 < mnemoc> tp: ls ./config 17:17 < tp> k 17:17 < dsoul> tp in -cfg it doesnt mater how you name it :) 17:18 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ls ./config 17:18 < tp> bootdisk default system 17:18 < dsoul> its only a name :) 17:18 < mnemoc> what did you set for each of those configs? 17:19 < tp> just system, then later bootdisk 17:19 < mnemoc> ok 17:19 < dsoul> tp read the handbook, it helps realy :) 17:19 < tp> as I worked my way thru the manual 17:19 < mnemoc> tp: ./script/config 17:19 < tp> I have been, there is no way I'd have come this far without it :) 17:19 < mnemoc> tp: then set your architecture 17:20 < tp> I did that 17:20 < mnemoc> tp: and exit 17:20 < tp> no problems there 17:20 < tp> yep 17:20 < mnemoc> ./script/Emerge-Pkg dietlibc 17:20 < tp> I got to the end of the first build 17:20 < mnemoc> just that 17:20 < dsoul> tp cool:) 17:20 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./script/Emerge-Pkg dietlibc 17:20 < tp> bash: ./script/Emerge-Pkg: No such file or directory 17:21 < dsoul> scripts :) 17:21 < tp> but at the lst stage, just before building initrd ? I got the diet error as I'm building the router package 17:21 < tp> this P4 has been going about 7 hrs compiling everything and I couldnt believ that I'd had no errors so far! 17:22 < dsoul> tp they will come :P 17:22 < tp> rock is the 3rd distro Ive tried so I can tailor my own builds 17:22 < tp> hehe 17:22 < tp> yeah they always do 17:22 < dsoul> :) 17:22 < tp> but I'm cool that way 17:23 < tp> I've been using nothing but Linux on the desktop since 1997, and I'm very confident with linux, but a crap programmer as I've already admitted 17:24 < tp> I scrape by doing small industrial embedded designs 17:24 < dsoul> its not so bad 17:25 < tp> gack 'scripts', the penny drops 17:25 < tp> == 01:25:05 =[9]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.25.0-rxr 2.0.0]. 17:25 < tp> I gotta say, I think Rock is awesome 17:25 < tp> yeah all os suck :) 17:26 < tp> but my coding sucks the worst ;-) 17:26 < tp> although my electronics designs arent too bad 17:26 < mnemoc> =) 17:27 < dsoul> lol 17:27 < tp> thanks very much for the help folks 17:27 < mnemoc> now, read the handbook again :p 17:27 < tp> mnemoc: I agree, I think 10 times will be necessary to get it thru this thick skull of mine 17:28 < tp> is there a html package of the handbook anywhere ? 17:28 < tp> I have the ps one but gv sucks for flying around a handbook 17:28 < mnemoc> the handbook is like a philosophical text, each time you read it to get something new from it :) 17:28 < tp> heh, yeah food for 100 years for me ;-) 17:29 < rxr> you need to wget it recursively - no HTML tarball 17:30 < tp> I was tempted, but I feel like a pirate doing that, wierd hey ? 17:31 < mnemoc> rxr: crontab snapshot releases :) 17:31 < tp> gack, I'm slowly working my way thru the mailing list! 17:31 < tp> Creating isolinux setup: 17:31 < tp> -> Extracting isolinux boot loader. 17:31 < tp> tar (child): /var/www/rock-src-2.0.0/download/bootdisk/syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory 17:31 < mnemoc> tp: ./scripts/Download -required 17:31 < mnemoc> and re-read the handbook 17:31 < tp> I'm on a 33.3 k modem 17:31 < tp> heh, ok ok :) 17:32 < mnemoc> you can't build without downloading, sorry 17:32 < tp> is there no more pity in the world for unbrilded impatience ? 17:32 < tp> I have been downloading for days :) 17:32 < dsoul> :) 17:32 < tp> I have about 200mb of source 17:33 < mnemoc> download in other place ;) work, univ, neighbor,... 17:33 < tp> yeah I am going to a dsl place thursday and will get what I can ... 17:33 < rxr> hm 17:33 < rxr> sed question: 17:34 < rxr> shouldn't put -e 's/$/:/' a colon at the end of _each_ line? 17:34 < rxr> it works for all but the first 17:34 < rxr> sed bug ? 17:34 < mnemoc> /g ? ;) 17:34 < rxr> hm - when used as single command it wors - but not in me long -e chain - strange 17:35 < rxr> g is multiple in line 17:35 < mnemoc> uhm... 17:35 < mnemoc> oh 17:36 < mnemoc> sed -e 's,$,:,' worked for me 17:36 < mnemoc> on every line 17:36 < mnemoc> GNU sed version 3.02 17:37 < rxr> yes - here too - but not in a long -e chain 17:38 < rxr> it seems 17:38 < rxr> -e 's/ /\n/g' ie evil 17:38 < mnemoc> tr ? 17:39 < rxr> I do not want so many Unix tool dependencies - I wanted one sed line ... 17:40 < tp> pardon me again friendly Rock folks :) 17:40 < blindy> rxr: so, should I continue work on Sonar or just dispose of it and leaving it up to you? 17:40 < mnemoc> sed is one-pass-only or it rewinds? 17:41 < tfing> one-pass only 17:41 < tp> can anyone please help me with this or do I need to read the manual again ;-) 17:41 < tp> router's and pacakge/*/syslinux must be updated to 2.08 17:42 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdate syslinux-2.08 | patch -p1 17:42 < tfing> -p0 17:42 < tp> mnemoc: :) 17:42 < rxr> mnemoc: IIRC the 2.0.0 release might not yet include the dynamic version extraction in the bootdisk target -maybe a tiny change is necessary there, too 17:43 < mnemoc> ./package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc <--- patch -p1 17:44 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdate syslinux-2.08 | patch -p0 17:44 < tp> bash: ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdate: No such file or directory 17:44 < tfing> PkgUpdatePatch 17:44 < tp> oh no, so close and yet ... 17:44 < tfing> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch 17:46 < tp> [ syslinux-2.08 ] 17:46 < tp> patching file ./package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc 17:46 < tp> bingo :) 17:46 < tp> thanks tfing! 17:49 < tp> -> Extracting isolinux boot loader. 17:49 < tp> tar (child): /var/www/rock-src-2.0.0/download/bootdisk/syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory 17:49 < tp> bummer, looks like the 2.02 is hard coded as per a mailing list article I read 17:50 < tp> "target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh has syslinux-2.0.2 hardcoded" 17:51 < tp> should the PkgUpdatePatch have changed target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh ? 17:51 < mnemoc> tp: you can use <tab> key to complete while you write and ensure you got the right name ;) 17:51 < tp> true :) 17:52 < mnemoc> tp: vi target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh 17:52 < tp> yeah was just doing it mnemoc 17:53 < tp> he we go again ... almost there ! 17:54 < tp> Creating ISO filesystem description. 17:54 < tp> -> Creating bootdisk/isofs directory.. 17:54 < tp> -> Creating isofs.txt file .. 17:54 < tp> finished!! 17:55 < tp> YAHOO! 17:55 < tp> many thanks and salutations to the friendly Europeans here :) 17:58 < rxr> hey cool - GMSP (https://gsmp.rocklinux-consulting.de) has more commits then ROCK Linux in the last days ;-) 17:58 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/ 17:58 < rolla> god luck tp 17:58 < rolla> s/god/good/ 17:59 < tp> awesome, simply awesome! 18:00 * tp fires up the old dual ppro for a floppy install! 18:03 < rxr> .oO (Floppy install - this ugly word - we should test it more often) 18:03 < mnemoc> tp: btw, not everyone here lives in europe 18:04 < rolla> very true 18:04 < mnemoc> rxr: CD install is a hacked floppy install, then floppy install should work, isn't it? 18:04 < rxr> mnemoc: rolla: greeting over there ;-) 18:05 < tp> mnemoc: oh sorry I also include my thanks and salutations to all those not living in europe :) 18:05 < mnemoc> :p 18:05 < rxr> mnemoc: but floppy install is this ugly FreeDOS loader thingy ... 18:05 < mnemoc> outch 18:05 < rolla> :-D 18:05 < rxr> ok - me off - I hope to bit back in the night 18:05 < mnemoc> freedos is about to release 1.0 18:07 < tp> whoo freedos! 18:07 < tp> I used it for years to run a dos PIC programmer under Linux! 18:09 < tp> and freedos worked fine :) 18:09 < tp> so far so good this old 1998 box wants floppy number 2 now! 18:10 < dsoul> ive tryied floppy install some time ago but it wont worked :/ 18:11 * mnemoc kicks dsoul 18:12 < tp> I'm doing it now, so we will soon know :) 18:12 < tp> floppy 2 was ok 18:12 < dsoul> :P 18:13 < dsoul> there was a problem with ramdisk, it was too small 18:13 < tp> of course its hard to get good floppies from my pile of old floppies! 18:13 < dsoul> that was simple to workaround 18:13 < rxr> hm - Asus ships FreeDOS ;-) ?!? 18:13 < rxr> https://usa.asus.com/products/mb/crashfreebios2.htm 18:14 < mnemoc> rxr: reads what freedos said about 18:14 < tp> why not ship freedos ? 18:14 < mnemoc> they ship a randomly choosen shapshot 18:14 < dsoul> but when i wanted to install from net i needed bigger kernel :) 18:16 < rxr> so - finally ok 18:17 < tp> rxr ? yeah I finished the compile and am now loading the floppies into a old dual ppro 18:17 < tp> I pretty much worked my way thru the probs in the mailing list 18:17 < tp> with help from you folks here of course :) 18:18 < rxr> I meant finally off -> away sorry for the typo 18:18 < rxr> cu later 18:18 < mnemoc> cu rxr 18:19 < tp> k rxr see ya thanks for the help :) 18:21 < tp> floppy 3 ok 18:27 < tp> 5th and last floppy loading atm ... 18:28 * mnemoc anxious 18:28 < tp> nice feedback of whats happening on the screen 18:28 < tp> lol 18:28 < tp> crap error on the floppy! 18:29 < tp> abort! ignore! retry! isnt an error I see much thesedays :) 18:30 < tp> this is an old dual ppro with 32 megs ram 18:31 < tp> floppy 5 finshed ... booting the kernel 18:31 < tp> scsi disc found! 18:31 < tp> I'm dreaming, thisa is too easy 18:31 < tp> oh no ... 18:32 < tp> kmod failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-006a errno = 8 18:32 < tp> ?? 18:35 < mnemoc> ignore :) 18:35 < tp> its a lonk screen of them 18:35 < tp> long 18:35 < mnemoc> always the same error? 18:36 < tp> yeah, something else flashes by occasonally but I cant see what it is 18:36 < tp> its in a loop 18:36 < tp> would a cd boot be any different I wonder ? 18:37 < mnemoc> i hope 18:37 < tp> I'll try burning a cd then 18:37 < tp> this is fun :) 18:38 < mnemoc> ROCK is fun and you learn a *lot* =) 18:39 < tp> yeah, I'm already think of a rock desktop 18:39 < tp> but better get this roiuter working first 18:39 < mnemoc> router is unmaintained iirc 18:41 < tp> thats cool 18:42 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./scripts/Create-ISO mycdset bootdisk system 18:42 < tp> [02:41:03] Removing old files with same prefix ... 18:42 < tp> [02:41:03] Reading configs and creating ISO index ... 18:42 < tp> Multiple boot options found! 18:42 < tp> oh oh what have I done now ? 18:43 < mnemoc> you created an iso named 'mycdset' booting with 'bootdisk' and containing a build of the config named 'system' 18:46 < tp> I don't think it did create the iso, I cant find it in bootdisk/isofs or any other dir 18:47 < mnemoc> it's at tree-root 18:49 < tp> hmm I cant see it, better so a find 18:49 < tp> hmm I cant see it, better do a find 18:51 < mnemoc> Multiple boot options found! <--- that was pasted or written by you? 18:51 < tp> pasted 18:51 < mnemoc> outch 18:52 < tp> maybe thats why the floppy install barfed ? 18:53 < mnemoc> i don't know :| 18:54 < tp> me neither :) 18:55 < mnemoc> great :p 18:56 < tp> ah well, such are new things ... 18:56 < tp> the menues etc are in the dir for the iso --- Log opened Tue Apr 27 23:19:38 2004 23:19 < daja> crap dfn is down again 23:20 < fussabtreter> holyolli: hmmm. ok... at least google-queries on arbeitsrecht.de dont help me 23:20 < valentin> daja: here in berlin this happens often 23:20 < rxr> dfn or gsmp.tfh-berlin.de 23:20 < fussabtreter> hi daja , valentin , rxr 23:20 < daja> rxr: dfn dresden 23:20 < daja> the node my university is connected to 23:20 < daja> hi valentin, fussabtreter 23:20 < MadTux> hi daja :) 23:21 < rxr> hi daja MadTux holyolli valentin and * 23:21 < fussabtreter> hi MadTux 23:22 < rolla> hallo rxr 23:22 < fussabtreter> *jump* !!! my holidays normally will be ok :))) *stein vom herzen fall* 23:23 < rolla> I am dreaming of buying a prosche :) 23:24 < rolla> a used one that is ;) 23:24 < rxr> rolla: cool ;-) 23:24 < rolla> yeah I think it will be fun to work on 23:29 < MadTux> *HI rxr* 23:29 < MadTux> oh he did greet back 23:30 < nookie> Hey MadTux 23:30 < nookie> hi rolla, rxr 23:30 < MadTux> hi n00kie 23:36 < fussabtreter> MadTux: ! :) 23:37 * fussabtreter = owl 23:40 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:44 < mnemoc> re 23:45 < daja> re mnemoc 23:45 < fussabtreter> hi mnemoc 23:46 < mnemoc> hi ${daja%77}, $owl 23:47 < nookie> huhu mnemoc :) 23:47 < mnemoc> hi nookie 23:53 < rxr> hi mnemoc 23:53 < mnemoc> hi rxr 23:54 < fake> rolla: get a cool, old, rusty VW Bus ;) 23:54 < holyolli> wanna buy one? 23:54 < holyolli> <-- has one ;-) 23:54 < fake> https://f4k3.net/~fake/bus/ 23:55 < fake> ;P 23:56 < nookie> fake: Nice, your own bus? 23:56 * fussabtreter is sneaking into a dark corner of the room and whispers silently "goodbye" 23:56 * fake grabs a megaphone, aiming at owl 23:57 < fake> WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY? 23:57 * daja got a buis too 23:57 < fake> daja's got a tank 23:57 < daja> *gg* 23:57 < fake> an encapsulated transportation device 23:57 < holyolli> does anybody know where to get an engine? 23:58 < holyolli> (for the t3 - a standard diesel engine) 23:58 < fake> holyolli: schrottplatz? 23:58 < holyolli> fake: i meant a _runnable_ engine... ;-) 23:58 < rxr> fake: and what do you do with your bus? Putting it full with computer stuff? 23:58 < fake> holyolli: rear or front? 23:59 < holyolli> fake: ? 23:59 < fake> rxr: what would you do? 23:59 < daja> n8 23:59 < holyolli> fake: a standard t3 with 1,6l diesel 23:59 < holyolli> heckantrieb 23:59 < fake> n8 daja! 23:59 < holyolli> n8 daja 23:59 < fake> holyolli: if you can't get one on the schrottplatz it might be cheaper to buy a complete used t3 --- Log closed Wed Apr 28 00:00:23 2004