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--- Log opened Wed Apr 28 00:00:23 2004
--- Day changed Wed Apr 28 2004
00:00 < holyolli> fake: hm.
00:00 < fake> rxr: the high roof is made of some carbon 'faser', not metal, perfect for hiding antennae ;)
00:01 < rxr> ;-)
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00:16 < fake> wow
00:16 < fake> internet access is a constitutional right in estland
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00:45 < mnemoc> *yawn*
00:50  * valentin # sleep (5*60*60)
01:04 < rxr> valentin: hey - you cheat - you commented this line off!
01:07 < netrunner> 881 builds total, 184 completed fine, 1 with errors.
01:08  * netrunner got home and relocates to bed.
01:09 < rxr> n8 netrunner 
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01:19 < MadTux> re.
01:22 < rxr> hi MadTux 
01:23 < MadTux> rxr: i have a quick question for you.. are there are any sparc isos yet?
01:23 < mnemoc> hi funnytuxie
01:23 < rxr> MadTux: nope - SPARC is still my part-time project ...
01:23 < rxr> sorry
01:24 < MadTux> rxr: i got an sparc at home but i need something to install on it which wouldn't give me much problems building rock... if you can give me some suggestions i can do some help
01:25 < rxr> I could dump my U5 config to CD ...
01:25 < rxr> I hope you got some ultra-sparc?
01:25 < MadTux> ultra 5..
01:25 < rxr> s/config/whole disk content -- passwords/
01:25 < MadTux> rxr: that could be helpfull
01:26 < rxr> hm - or only my latest built .gems ...
01:26 < rxr> hm
01:26 < rxr> you could mine -i them on another box ...
01:27 < MadTux> lets try opention 2 first
01:27 < rxr> MadTux: does this have some day
01:27 < rxr> MadTux: I would reverse my free time in the next days to get the sparc64 bits on the CD boot correct
01:28 < rxr> then you could use it just normal - even when the boot-code is not yet polished and not in ROCK - and the sparc32 bits trap allignments and such ...
01:28 < rxr> but I think the sparc64 part could be ready until the weekend ...
01:29 < MadTux> well my main motivation is to contribute on rock sparc64 stuff.. just helpme get the tools and i will help you get rid of some work load
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02:00 < rxr> == 01:59:58 =[9]=> Building rene/xemacs-beta [21.5.17 2.1.0-DEV].
02:18 < rxr> ok - final build?:
02:18 < rxr> == 02:18:34 =[9]=> Building rene/xemacs-beta [21.5.17 2.1.0-DEV].
02:32 < rxr> no it wasn't
02:33 < rxr> anyone still alive?
02:36  * MadTux .
02:38 < jsaw> meep
02:38 < MadTux> greetings jsaw
02:38 < jsaw> hi MadTux , rxr
02:42 < rxr> ah cool
02:42 < rxr> hi jsaw 
02:42 < rxr> I just package this Xft enabled XEmacs 21.5.17 ...
02:43 < rxr> and this package includes some rather unusual ROCK hacks ... (to make ths beast build ...)
02:45 < jsaw> unusual ROCK hacks?
02:45 < rxr> yes - like overwriting eval_config_command ...
02:45 < rxr> hm - damn this does also not work - I need to invent s.th. new ...
02:45 < jsaw> ic
02:46 < MadTux> inspired rxr?
02:46 < jsaw> me got a different problem with openoffice: build breaks with "argument list too long"
02:46 < rxr> inspired? No bored from stangely packages software - using auto* dung from years ago
02:46 < rxr> jsaw: inside OO scripts - or in ROCK scripts
02:47 < rxr> ah - no it work - cool
02:47  * rxr was blinded or so
02:47 < jsaw> looks like dmake problem (everything is fine, if I follow all the steps by hand)
02:48 < jsaw> some env variables passed by cmd_wrapper maybe? don't know. will take some more time to investigate
02:49 < jsaw> ups, s/argument list too long/environment list too long/
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02:50 < jhuebel> Evening all...
02:50 < jhuebel> Who's working on the AMD64 port?
02:50 < jsaw> hi jhuebel 
02:50 < jhuebel> jsaw: hiya
02:50 < jsaw> .oO(who's providing amd64 hw?)
02:51 < jhuebel> No, just who has had a chance to work on the port...
02:51 < MadTux> i think rxr was
02:51 < jhuebel> Hmmm... K
02:51 < jsaw> that q is directly connected to the question of having the hw at hand...
02:52 < jhuebel> Yeah, I saw that on the site.
02:53 < rxr> I did some bits - clifford some others
02:53 < rxr> we have no permanent hardware ..
02:53 < jhuebel> Hmmm... K.
02:59 < jhuebel> I have amd64 hardware. I'm evaluating source-based distros right now to see if I may be helpful in getting the amd64 port off the ground.
03:00 < jhuebel> Athlon64 3000+. Hella fast, even though it's the "low-end" Athlon64.
03:00 < jhuebel> I should mention that I'm the lead dev for the Gentoo/amd64 port. But I like to help out wherever I'm useful.
03:01  * jhuebel smiles.
03:01 < jsaw> :)
03:02 < rxr> jhuebel: why do you take a look at ROCK ?
03:03 < jhuebel> rxr: I've heard of Rock before and thought I'd take a look. I'll be honest. My biggest concern when using any distribution is the package manager.
03:04 < jhuebel> So, I'm really interested in what makes RockLinux's package management good.
03:04 < jhuebel> While I use and enjoy Gentoo (and portage), I'm not biased toward it.
03:05 < rxr> .oO (I should finally reinstall this iBook)
03:05 < jhuebel> I have no influence over portage development, unfortunately.
03:06 < rxr> jhuebel: just feel free to ask here if you need s.th. to know
03:07 < rxr> unfortunetly I'm currentl crawling into bed (03:06 here)
03:07 < jhuebel> rxr: cool, thanks. I'm looking at the website now. :-)
03:07 < rxr> the (in progress) Handbook is at:
03:07 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/
03:07 < rxr> I hope it is a help (also linked on the homepage of course)
03:08 < jhuebel> Just one quick question before you go...
03:08 < jhuebel> How are you guys dealing with seperating 32-bit and 64-bit libs?
03:08 < jhuebel> Or is there a port to any 64-bit architecture yet?
03:09 < rxr> we did 64 bit only up to now - and just spoke about generic multilib support a few days ago
03:09 < rxr> how is gentoo doing this?
03:11 < jhuebel> Incorrectly, unfortunately. I think the LSB states that 64-bit libs are supposed to be in /lib64, and 32-bit libs are in /lib.
03:11 < jhuebel> But Gentoo puts everything in /lib and symlinks /lib64 to /lib.
03:11 < rxr> ough
03:11 < jhuebel> Which is bad if you want multilib support.
03:12 < rxr> yes it should be /lib64 ...
03:12 < rxr> in theoriy we plan generic multilib support
03:12 < rxr> put I'm currently busy doing PowerPC embedded work ...
03:12 < jhuebel> Like SUSE is doing? Their multilib support is top-notch.
03:13 < rxr> (32bit ...)
03:13 < rxr> I think what one want is:
03:14 < rxr> - tagges in the packages to mark those where 32/64 bit versions are useful installed at the same ime
03:14 < rxr> time even
03:14 < rxr> (like glibc, openssl, openssh, and so on ...)
03:15 < rxr> - some generic handling for those - so multilib creation does not need to be hardcoded into earch package
03:15 < rxr> (I guess SuSE is preparing two different SRPMs one pkg-name and one pkg-name64 and just hardcoding all ...
03:15 < rxr> )
03:16 < jhuebel> I'm not sure how SUSE is doing it. But one of my Gentoo devs is evaluating SUSE and says that they have really done a good job with it.
03:18 < jhuebel> In SUSE 9.1 beta, anyway.
03:19 < jhuebel> rxr: Thanks for your time... Have a good night. :-)
03:20 < rxr> n8 jhuebel 
03:20 < rxr> .oO (linux-kernel is boiling)
03:21 < rxr> flameing the linuxant people - now linuxant people are in the To: and/or Cc: lines ....
03:21 < rxr> > Not true. Linuxant modules come with full source for operating-system specific
03:21 < rxr> > code.
03:21 < rxr> As somebody else already asked: Where is that source?
03:21 < rxr> > Exactly. Linuxant's intent is NOT to circumvent any license checks (see
03:21 < rxr> > below for why this specific workaround was put in) which would be unnecessary
03:21 < rxr> > since the drivers in question do not use any GPL_ONLY functions, as far as
03:21 < rxr> > I know.
03:21 < rxr> As far as you know. Can we assume you didn't bother to check?
03:22 < rxr> > Actually, we also have no desire nor purpose to prevent tainting. The purpose
03:22 < rxr> Then why the fuck did you prevent tainting this way?
03:22 < rxr> ...
03:22 < rxr> So you are nothing but a liar caught red-handed. And such a bad liar at that.
03:24 < jhuebel> heh, I saw that... They're just covering their butts now.
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03:36 < jsaw_> damn - vmware severly influences the stability of my system (under kernel 2.6)
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03:43 < rxr> what are you running in vmwares?
03:45 < jsaw> don't ask... (XP)
03:46 < MadTux> 0_o
03:47 < jsaw> (department policy, having linux as basic OS on my workstation is a *BIG* exception)
03:50 < rxr> yeah - hand editing patches rules ...
03:50 < rxr> jsaw: oh my ...
04:05 < SMP> hmm, I don't see any stability issues with vmware
04:05 < jsaw> which kernel version?
04:09 < SMP> 2.6.5 with vmware 4.5.1 build-7568 with vmware-any-any-update60 applied
04:09 < SMP> I used to run vmware 4.0 with 2.6.0-test4 for a long time. no problems ever
04:10 < SMP> all this together with the nvidia driver
04:10 < jsaw> me now trying update63. (so far I had 57)
04:10 < SMP> whoah, 63?
04:10 < SMP> I can hardly keep up with the releases ;)
04:15 < rxr> jsaw: xemacs-beta is now in sumbater
04:15 < rxr> only tested on PowerPC so far ...
04:15 < jsaw> much improved?
04:16 < rxr> I only want it for the Xft fonts
04:17 < rxr> they look wonderful ... (as usual)
04:17 < SMP> btw. Gnome 2.6 fails completely due to not being able to find XML::Parser perl modules
04:17 < rxr> SMP: oeh? Haeh? Why? What?
04:17 < rxr> SMP: I have not noticed Gnome needs it - but we have a package (I guess in misc) of the perl-xml-parser or so
04:18 < rxr> SMP: I build it 1 1/2 times here - some regressions - but most build
04:18 < rxr> I even fixed some things that have been disabled before - like balsa ...
04:18  * rxr off now - cu in some hours
04:18 < SMP> yeah, it builds before the gnome stuff, but then it all fails because it doesn't seem to actually be able to find or use the modules
04:19 < jsaw> I faintly remember sth. similiar with 2.4
04:20 < rxr> SMP: it worked here - on my quite mixed iBook:
04:20 < rxr> .0.0-beta4
04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc1
04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc2
04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc3
04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc4
04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc5
04:20 < rxr> 2.0.1
04:20 < rxr> 2.1.0-DEV
04:20 < rxr> maybe I should start a full build - sometime tomorrow or so - err today
04:20 < rxr> but now I'm really off ;-)
04:20 < SMP> I stopped the build after gnome-vfs
04:21 < jsaw> cu rxr
04:21 < SMP> aahhh
04:21 < jsaw> now, let's see if vmware still breaks...
04:21 < SMP> perl-xml-parser is a little too late
06:43 < MadTux> ::METAL:: https://200.116.6.55:8000/listen.pls
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06:58 < MadTux> bye
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07:49 < BoS> moin
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08:25 < netrunne1> moin, 2
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08:26 < ringo> moin netrunner 
08:26 < ringo> afk shower
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09:20 < netrunner> oh :( 881 builds total, 453 completed fine, 259 with errors.
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09:44 < daja> netrunner: what are you building?
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12:02 < daja77> re
12:07 < dsoul> hi daja77 
12:08 < daja77> hi dsoul 
12:26 < rxr> re
12:26 < daja77> wb rxr
12:26 < daja77> dfn works again ...
12:51 < rxr> jsaw: awake?
12:51 < rxr> jsaw: could you share your gcc34 work? I would like to start a test build using it
12:56  * rxr updating mplayer and qrt
12:56 < rxr> qt even
12:57 < daja77> rxr: speaking of that do you had problems with gnome-games-2.6 cksum too?
12:58 < rxr> hm
12:59 < rxr> ?
12:59 < daja77> i could send a cksum patch over if you liek
13:00 < tfing> * rxr updating mplayer and qrt <- do'h ! i was working on it :)
13:00 < daja77> *ggg*
13:00 < rxr> tfing: test builds already running ....
13:02  * daja77 wondering if nookie testbuilds his packages
13:02  * tfing still building
13:04 < rxr> daja77: what cheksum problem do you have?:
13:04 < rxr> inished downloading 8215595 bytes in 227.897 seconds (36049.597 bytes/sec).
13:04 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/gnome24/gnome-games/gnome-games-2.6.0.1.tar.bz2
13:04 < rxr> ?
13:04 < daja77> i got a cksum err yesterday while downloading
13:04 < tfing> #error Please upgrade to version 2004.01.05 or later of the "LIVE.COM Streaming Media"
13:05 < tfing> rxr: you upgraded rtsp too ?
13:05 < rxr> ;-) Not yet - could you do so?
13:06 < tfing> yep
13:15 < fussabtreter> moin
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13:20 < rxr> moin owl
13:21 < fussabtreter> hi rxr . how are you?
13:23 < rxr> oh - good, and you?
13:25 < fussabtreter> good to hear that ;). hm. as always. thx
13:26 < fussabtreter> greetings from my knuddeliges hamstervieh ;)
13:27 < fussabtreter> (sitting on my notebook *hrhr*
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13:54 < rxr> hi netrunner 
13:55 < Lorini> hi netrunner
13:56 < netrunner> hi rxr, Lorini 
13:56 < netrunner> stupid telecom disconnected my line for 4 hours :(
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14:03 < daja77> hi Lorini, netrunner 
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14:11 < Lorini> huhu daja
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14:29 < rxr> oh - no - mplayer utilizes the gnome1.x/glib package :-(
14:30 < daja77> wuarg
14:30 < fussabtreter> btw, rev 2812 is the current one?
14:35 < daja77> .oO (trunk is outdated)
14:35 < rxr> daja77: you mean due to the submaster queue?
14:36 < daja77> 2yes
14:36 < fussabtreter> outdated?
14:36 < daja77> i mean i can't tell newbies anymore co trunk and you got latest
14:38 < fussabtreter> svn co svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk
14:38 < fussabtreter>  isn't the correct command anymore? O_o
14:38 < daja77> yep
14:38 < rolla> re
14:38 < fussabtreter> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. i did so... because i read it on the website...
14:39 < fussabtreter> wb rolla 
14:40 < daja77> fussabtreter: it is correct to get trunk, but not to get the latest changes anymore :(
14:40 < fussabtreter> why not?
14:42 < daja77> cos lots of patches lying around in submaster
14:42 < fussabtreter> hmm. ok... 
14:48 < rxr> hi rolla 
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14:49 < rxr> those damn stupid C codes
14:50 < daja77> hm?
14:50 < rxr> coders even - with theird damn to stupid to use it define crap
14:54 < rxr> haeh - oh my is the MPlayer code crappy
14:54  * rxr thinks about putting "adding a video framework to gsmp
14:54 < daja77> it is a video player, so what do you expect
14:55 < daja77> i doubt that the code will get better
14:55 < rxr> daja77: Gsmp is also "only" a "streaming solution" for "player" and "editng solution"
14:55 < daja77> :)
14:55 < rxr> adn the code is modernst C++ without such 20 old crap style fluffs
14:56 < rxr> they are too dump to get their own macro hacking right
14:56 < rxr> oh - my - even the comments are wrong
14:56 < fussabtreter> hmm. i'm going off... enjoying the sun and having a shower. bbl
14:56  * rxr is shocked
14:56 < daja77> you patch it to so that it should work with new glib?
14:56 < rxr> no - I patch it to compile on PowerPC without altivec support
14:57 < rxr> they cripple Altivec support in each release a different way
14:57 < daja77> oh
14:57 < rxr> aside that the assmply stuff does not compile with revent GCC's anyway
14:58 < rxr> the best was gstreamer with included PowerPC assmebly never compileable
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15:00 < holyolli> moin
15:02 < rxr> moin holyolli 
15:02 < holyolli> huhu rxr
15:03  * rxr also off into the sun - cu later
15:03 < daja77> hf
15:03 < holyolli> cu rxr
15:03 < holyolli> enjoy RL... ;-)
15:12 < rolla> yawn
15:14  * rolla is very bored
15:14 < rolla> holyolli: is there a rocklinux alpha iso yet?
15:14 < fake> NOOOO
15:15 < fake> NONONO
15:15 < fake> *uaaaaaaah*
15:15 < holyolli> hi rolla, fake...
15:15  * fake cries
15:15 < holyolli> rolla: no, still some problems with libs :(( - do you have something?
15:15 < holyolli> rolla: (well, i have some deprecated 1.5 isos...but they don't count imho)
15:15 < fake> https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/28/0228237
15:16 < Lorini> hi fake
15:16 < fake> they cancel andromeda :_:
15:16 < fake> my life has just lost one if it's most fun parts
15:16 < fake> hi Lorini 
15:17 < fake> but: "The Forgotten" will air today! 
15:19 < rolla> holyolli: I can try to build one on my new alphaserver 2000
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15:24 < holyolli> re...
15:38 < BoS> rxr: for ppc build - kernel 2.4.22 ?
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16:09 < c4y0> hi every body
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17:38 < th_> is there a known problem with segfaulting gimp in libglib-1.2.so?
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17:47 < SMP> use gimp 2.0 ;)
17:47 < MadTux> good day
17:47 < holyolli> MadTux!!!
17:47 < MadTux> Ollie!
17:51 < rolla> MadTux: 
17:52 < MadTux> hi Joel!
17:53 < rolla> :)
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19:45 < blindy> hi
19:45 < MadTux> blindy: !
19:45 < blindy> MadTux: !
19:46 < blindy> tmpfs makes a difference of 20% in a LVP build
19:46 < blindy> that's quite nice
19:52 < BoS> anobody here with issue's about ppc and rock?
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20:27 < rxr> re
20:30 < MadTux> hi rxr
20:31 < valentin> hi
20:40 < blindy> moin rxr
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22:14  * blindy gone
22:17 < netrunner> hm, not so successful. 881 builds total, 564 completed fine, 317 with errors.
22:17 < netrunner> qt fails first.
22:26 < rxr> netrunner: what kind of build is this?
22:26 < MadTux> rxr: query?
22:28 < netrunner> rxr: desktop with some submaster patches, mainly the xorg one.
22:29 < daja77> hm this gnome patch breaks a lot
22:29  * MadTux needs a place to stay for CCC Congress on december
22:30 < daja77> hi MadTux :)
22:30  * MadTux already making plans to not go through the same shit than last year
22:30 < MadTux> hi daja77  :)
22:31 < daja77> yeah sounds good
22:34 < daja77> 1191 builds total, 587 completed fine, 78 with errors.
22:34 < daja77> what did you mean by just a few packages needed to be fixed by community efforts
22:35 < rxr> daja77: I did build it in my system - and most stuff build
22:36 < rxr> have you the SMP patfh to move XML:Parse's priority to the front?
22:36 < rxr> maybe some other tiny priority moves?
22:36 < daja77> I just have to find the start of this mess
22:36 < rxr> did you pulled more - or is this just the gnome update?
22:37 < daja77> i have more stuff, kde update and x.org
22:37 < rxr> s.o. claimed x.orgs breaks some stuff, too
22:38 < daja77> oh hm
22:38 < daja77> i guess i cannot revert patches applied via smap?
22:43 < rxr> sure - why not?
22:43 < daja77> svn revert?
22:44 < daja77> iirc smap does a commit after each patch
22:44 < rxr> sure - exactly this
22:45 < daja77> k.
22:46 < rxr> btw - IIRC smap does not commit it alone - you need to cut'n paste the message
22:46 < rxr> or supply a commdn line parameter or config file optoin
22:47 < daja77> that's for sm sync
22:47 < daja77> smap does a commit
22:47 < SMP> unless told not to
22:49 < netrunner> the qt error is weird: Qt must first be configured using the "configure" scri ..
22:49 < rxr> well then this way ...
22:50 < daja77> k. trying with smp priority patch again, before reverting x,org stuff
22:52 < netrunner> oh damn, xorg did not build. that explains things ...
22:54 < daja77> it did build here
22:55 < netrunner> file missing.
22:55 < netrunner> but tcltk is scheduled before xorg and aborts missing the includes if I read my log correctly
22:56 < netrunner> ah, no, I might be to tired now.
22:57 < netrunner> rxr: what do you think about splitting the irc statistics in seperate for years? Now I do not even appear :/
22:59 < rxr> netrunner: they are already split into years
23:00 < daja77> the stats, hm there are ppl in it who haven't uttered a word in 2004
23:00 < netrunner> ah, ic
23:01 < rxr> stats.html was a zombi file
23:01 < rxr> it is deleted now
23:01 < rxr> use stat-$year.html instead
23:01 < daja77> ah k. this is stats for 2002 which is default :\
23:01 < rxr> or the links in the index.html (behind the year)
23:01 < rxr> there is no "default"
23:02 < netrunner> it's the topmost. I also always clicked on it :)
23:03 < daja77> oh i just used www.rocklinux.net/irclog/ which points me to 2002 stats
23:03 < daja77> omg I lead the 2003 stats
23:03  * daja77 hides
23:06 < netrunner> hm. now I have the problem I always talked about. 
23:06 < netrunner> some packages in my build did not build. 
23:07 < netrunner> If I now simply restart the build, packages that use the pkginstalled to enable features and built fine without dependencies lack features I might like.
23:07 < netrunner> So, I have to completely restart the build to be sure to have all features.
23:15 < rxr> netrunner: you should enough shell to improve this
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23:16 < netrunner> rxr: it needs a change in the functionality of pkginstalled/pkgcheck. I already wrote this to the ml about a month ago. Not many comments...
23:16 < netrunner> rxr: do you at least agree with my point?
23:17 < rxr> only partly
23:18 < netrunner> my proposal: merge both functionalities. up to stage 5 it behaves as pkgcheck. in stage 9 it behaves as pkginstalled.
23:18 < rxr> hm - is there a bug in pkginstalled ?
23:19 < netrunner> it behaves diffrently. it checks if the package in question has already been built.
23:19 < netrunner> pkgcheck looks if the package in question is in the build at all
23:19 < rxr> no - I meant I think pkginstalled has a bug as it in in svn - for the use-case it is intended for ...
23:19 < rxr> netrunner: I know this ...
23:20 < rxr> netrunner: for you I propose s.th. like:
23:20 < rxr> ndex: scripts/functions
23:20 < rxr> ===================================================================
23:20 < rxr> --- scripts/functions   (revision 36)
23:20 < rxr> +++ scripts/functions   (working copy)
23:20 < rxr> @@ -402,7 +402,11 @@
23:20 < rxr>  # Check if a package is already installed
23:20 < rxr>  #
23:20 < rxr>  pkginstalled() {
23:20 < rxr> -       [ -f $root/var/adm/flists/$1 ]
23:20 < rxr> +       if [ "$stagelevel" -le 8 ] ; then
23:20 < rxr> +               pkgcheck X $1
23:20 < rxr> +       else
23:20 < rxr> +               [ -f $root/var/adm/flists/$1 ]
23:20 < rxr> +       fi
23:20 < rxr>  }
23:20 < rxr>  # Register a window-manager
23:20 < rxr> ah - no it did not have a bug - I pressed the wrong key ...
23:21 < netrunner> rxr: this is exactly what I mean. :)
23:22 < SMP> this should -in theory- be accomplished by ROCKCFG_NOBROKENDEPS=1
23:23 < rxr> or better:
23:23 < rxr> --- scripts/functions   (revision 36)
23:23 < rxr> +++ scripts/functions   (working copy)
23:23 < rxr> @@ -401,8 +401,15 @@
23:23 < rxr>  }
23:23 < rxr>  # Check if a package is already installed
23:23 < rxr>  #
23:23 < rxr> +# It does check the build-list if not in the rebuild stage - and
23:23 < rxr> +# the really installed package data for rebuilds (and so manual builds).
23:23 < rxr> +#
23:23 < rxr>  pkginstalled() {
23:23 < rxr> -       [ -f $root/var/adm/flists/$1 ]
23:23 < rxr> +       if [ "$stagelevel" -le 8 ] ; then
23:23 < rxr> +               pkgcheck X $1
23:23 < rxr> +       else
23:23 < rxr> +               [ -f $root/var/adm/packages/$1 ]
23:23 < rxr> +       fi
23:23 < rxr>  }
23:23 < rxr>  # Register a window-manager
23:23 < rxr> netrunner: please test this and report - I then submit it into submaster
23:23 < rxr> SMP: yes
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23:24 < netrunner> rxr: could you sm commit it so I can smap it? :)
23:24 < rxr> oh my
23:24  * netrunner will start a desktop build tomorrow morning.
23:24 < SMP> rxr: stop
23:25 < netrunner> rxr: okayokay, I'll handedit the timestamp and nick away ;)
23:25 < SMP> the arguments to pkgcheck are in the wrong order
23:26 < rxr> too later
23:27 < rxr> resend
23:30 < rxr> netrunner: a hand edit will not apply due to <tab>s
23:30 < rxr> but it is in sumaster now
23:30 < netrunner> smap'ed. the qt update will also be in my next build.
23:39 < netrunner> n8 *
23:39 < daja77> n8 netrunner 
23:42 < rxr> n8
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