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--- Log opened Mon May 03 00:00:02 2004
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00:26 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=99&tt_news=43
00:29 < mnemoc> oh!
00:29 < mnemoc> will you mail to the monks?
00:30  * daja77 thinking of throwing his build away and restarting with 3.4
00:31 < mnemoc> me too
00:31 < daja77> hehe and i already downloaded it
00:32 < daja77> only creating cross compiler by hand does not work, cos there is no useful documentation
00:34 < link_> hi all
00:34 < link_> :)
00:37 < mnemoc> hi link_ 
00:41 < mnemoc> WTF!?!! my linux.cfg disappeared
00:41 < daja77> rxr: do you have a compressed tarball of glibc, 118mb are much waste of bandwith?
00:42 < mnemoc> rxr: send it to the mirrors :)
00:42 < daja77> this would take a while
00:42 < rxr> mom
00:42 < link_> what are you doing all?
00:43 < rxr> developing
00:43 < daja77> annyoing our machines with new builds ^^
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00:46 < rxr> daja77: when I push it to the mirrors manually it caon takes hours if not a day until the master one picks it from my server
00:46 < rxr> + the cvs download is compressed with -z9 ...
00:47 < daja77> so i should better dload from cvs?
00:47 < rxr> do not forget to smap the gcc34 glibc234 compile fixes I have send in seperated chukns
00:48 < daja77> i applied all of your today's patches
00:48 < rxr> when you want it from mirrors you would need to wait at least until lunch or so to show up ...
00:48  * rxr thinks about testing this changes on my x86 box - so daja77  and mnemoc will nto kill when it fails ...
00:49 < daja77> i kept my my old build just in case ^^
00:50 < daja77> k. i haven't applied you benh updates ^^
00:51 < mnemoc> :)
00:52 < rxr> a svn:// checkout on a RAID5'ed SVN server is cool
00:52 < rxr> only takes some seconds ...
00:52  * rxr just sm create'ed < 1 mintue ;-)
00:52 < rxr> T1 for the server anyone?
00:52 < daja77> wow
00:55 < daja77> clifford wanted to throw ouit the cvs co thing from desc files ...
00:56 < rxr> when , why?
00:58 < mnemoc> uhm?
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01:05 < rxr> hm - somehow download lockign does not work anymore
01:05 < rxr> I wanted to be in bed right now :-( damn
01:06 < daja77> to force people creating tarballs instead
01:07 < daja77> me too ^^
01:07 < daja77> that counter must be wrong it claimes it lready got 42mb from glibc, sounds too fast for me
01:08 < rxr> daja77: the counter does a repeated `du ...` in the download dir
01:08 < rxr> it is right
01:08 < rxr> but it include .CVS dirs and such
01:08 < rxr> and the download is compressed using -z9 - so it should be correct
01:08 < daja77> ah k.
01:22 < rxr> ok - next article prepared, too
01:22 < rxr> just hidden until some commits from clifford
01:22 < rxr> (page coutner hit 1200 ... ;-)
01:23 < rxr> package evne
01:24  * rxr starting a x86 minimal target with the sm changes
01:25 < rxr> oejm - daja - I get a chksum error for your linux26 update ...
01:25 < daja77> O_o
01:26 < StefanG> n8
01:26 < rxr> n8 StefanG 
01:27 < daja77> i was not 100% sure about that dowanlod, cos i made it on a crappy rh8, but that tarball worked after all ...
01:28 < daja77> >_<
01:28  * rxr is currently redownloading
01:29 < daja77> i thought that by so many votes ppl had tested this patch ...
01:30 < daja77> besides that i made a linux24 update :)
01:30 < rxr> ok so one second:
01:30 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2
01:31 < rxr> ok worked
01:31 < daja77> oh good :)
01:31 < rxr> must be a crippled continued download
01:32 < rxr> so in some minutes I should know if I need to fix ghe ugly glibc for x86 ...
01:32 < rxr> == 05/03/04 01:32:31 =[0]=> Finished building package linux24-header.
01:33 < rxr> .oO
01:34 < daja77> vs -z9 -Q -d :pserver:anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc checkout -D 2004-05-01 -P libc/
01:34 < daja77> ? libc/iconvdata/.new.gb18030.c
01:34 < daja77> ERROR: CVS -D 2004-05-01 anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc libc/ returned an error.
01:34 < daja77> >_<
01:35 < rxr> the thing should be able to continue partly checked out modules
01:36 < rxr> out of disk-space? or connection timed out ?
01:36 < daja77> yep the script is just now on other packages
01:36 < daja77> 16gb left ^^
01:37 < daja77> it somehow feels like bein rh when using cvs glibc versions
01:40 < rxr> daja77: mnemoc: for updated glibc builds there is a hotfix in submaster
01:41 < daja77> :)
01:42 < rxr> as I commented there - I must have accidently reverted this part on my iBook during merging
01:43 < daja77> shit happens
01:43 < daja77> btw it is scaring how many patches we need for glibc
01:43 < daja77> applied
01:44 < rxr> it is scaring how many releases of glibc have been in the last 1 1/2 years
01:44 < daja77> yep that too
01:44 < daja77> 216K downloaded from CVS archive so far...
01:45 < daja77> ugh does that mean it is starting from scratch again
01:46 < daja77> maybe i shouldn't have removed src/Download-Errors
01:47 < daja77> k. reading book while downloading ...
01:50 < rxr> me off
01:51 < rxr> mabe I come back in some minutes to take a look on the x86 build ...
01:51 < rxr> if not I have fallen asleep over my book ...cu
02:03 < daja77> cu rxr
02:13 < rxr> ouhm linux24 on x86 does not compile
02:13  * rxr fixing
02:13 < SMP> with gcc-3.4?
02:14 < rxr> yes
02:14 < SMP> no surprise
02:14 < rxr> it is - it compiled on PowerPC ...
02:14 < LowLander> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 41: /home/erwin/l4l/rock-src-2.0.0/build/default-2.0.0-x86-athlon-tbird-32-cross-router/root/var/adm/flists/iptables: No such file or directory
02:15 < rxr> damn scheduler hacks
02:15 < SMP> even 2.6 was fixed for gcc 3.4 just recently
02:15 < LowLander> is an error i get at the end of a router build
02:15 < LowLander> cp: cannot stat `/home/erwin/l4l/rock-src-2.0.0/build/default-2.0.0-x86-athlon-tbird-32-cross-router/root/usr/share/pci.ids': No such file or directory
02:15 < LowLander> and that one
02:17 < LowLander> Did not find program binary for 'lspci'. and some others 
02:24 < rxr> SMP: I saw this
02:24 < rxr> linux26 as in ROCK does also compile w/ gcc-3.4.0 on x86
02:24 < rxr> linux24 needs a bit patching
02:25 < rxr> strange that the sched.c compiled on PowerPC ...
02:25 < rxr> the FASTCALL macro must be different there ...
02:38 < daja77> re
02:40 < LowLander> ok 2:30 AM , come time
02:44 < daja77> what time?
02:44 < LowLander> coma even
02:44 < rxr> daja77: 02:44
02:46 < daja77> erh i know the clock ...
02:46 < daja77> glibc dload is finished now
02:48 < rxr> hm - x86 needs some tiny cross compile fixes
02:48 < rxr> daja77: do i need to do them now?
02:49 < rxr> or maybe I haver I got sleep?
02:51 < daja77> i could start the build tomorrow as well
02:51 < daja77> gn8
02:51 < rxr> n8 daja77 
02:53 < daja77> n8 rxr
03:13  * rxr testing a gcc3 modification
03:29 < mnemoc> gcc33 will never be gcc3?
03:31 < mnemoc> LowLander: those are odd errors, try rebuilding corresponding pacakges
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05:44 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
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05:44 [ blindy] [ fake     ] [ LowLander] [ netrunner] [ snyke  ] [ valentin] 
05:44 [ daja77] [ Freak    ] [ luckz    ] [ nookie   ] [ StefanG] 
05:44 [ darix ] [ jsaw     ] [ mistik1  ] [ rolla    ] [ tfing  ] 
05:44 [ dsoul ] [ k3t__    ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr      ] [ th_    ] 
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08:53 < fake> damn it
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09:05 < netrunne1> fake: ?
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09:30 < fake> netrunner: the module loading shell is great
09:30 < fake> but it's not of much use, if loading modules doesn't work !
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09:37 < netrunner> ugh? it worked once ...
09:37 < fake> netrunner: do you habe vmware?
09:37 < fake> try it...
09:37 < fake> it get's signal 8, and that's it
09:37 < netrunner> I didn't try it in a vmware.
09:37 < fake> it's the same on real hardware
09:38 < fake> in the module loading shell as well as in the kiss shell
09:38 < netrunner> fake: what have you done? built the new module-init tools?
09:38 < fake> i tracked that once, and it had to do something with missing sysenter support in dietlibc iirc
09:39 < fake> netrunner: yes, the default setting
09:39 < netrunner> fake: it definitely worked once.
09:39  * fake not sure
09:40 < fake> maybe i should try a bootdisk without module-init-tools
09:40 < netrunner> I tried it. I used the module loading shell because I needed it.
09:40 < fake> .oO( need to add config options for what modules to include in bootdisk to make it really useful ;)
09:41 < fake> firewire/sbp2 for my notebook
09:50 < netrunner> fake: reproduced the behaviour on my recent router build :(
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09:54 < fake> :(
09:55 < jsaw> re
09:55 < jsaw> hi all
09:56 < fake> hi jsaw
09:56 < jsaw> hi fake 
10:10  * netrunner riding his harley to the uni
10:10 < fake> proll ;)
10:10 < daja77> hehe
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11:05 < nzg> hi
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12:02 < BoS> moin
12:34 < jsaw> cu l8r
12:37 < LowLander> morning
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13:38 < nagi> moin
13:38 < valentin> moin nagi
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14:03 < owl> re
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14:54 < rxr> rehi
15:14 < rxr> cu later
15:16 < rxr> gpri
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17:39 < MadTux> hi.
17:39 < daja77> ho MadTux 
17:39 < MadTux> :)
17:49 < rolla> MadTux: 
17:49 < MadTux> hi rolla 
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18:41 < link_> HI Mike :)
18:45 < rxr> rehi
18:45 < daja77> hi rxr 
18:49 < link_> oh no, he's gone
18:50 < link_> he hates me :/
18:50 < link_> i feel it
18:50 < daja77> hehe no
18:50 < daja77> he is just busy as always
18:52 < link_> okay :)
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19:08 < owl> re
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19:50 < rolla> re
19:50  * netrunne1 just found the movie "reign of fire" and starts watching
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20:03 < martin> hi
20:06 < valentin> hi martin
20:06 < valentin> martin from tfh ?
20:07 < rxr> valentin: yes - TFH IP-space
20:07 < rxr> 141.64....
20:08 < valentin> well, i saw the dfn's 141.
20:09 < blindy> hi
20:11 < martin> hi valentin, hi rxr :)
20:17 < martin> ok, bye. will go home
20:18 < rxr> all those students living in the university ...
20:19 < rxr> o my god - people hac shit:
20:19 < rxr> # Script to generate a sorted, complete list of signals, suitable
20:19 < rxr> # for inclusion in trap.c as array initializer.
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20:23 < fake> rxr: here?
20:23 < rxr> mom
20:23 < fake> just a question. clifford wanted you to test a SIP user agent a while ago. can you remember it's name?
20:24 < fake> (you couldn't test it, as only x86 binaries were availible)
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20:25 < th_> fake: linphone?
20:25 < rxr> fake: clifford wanted teamspeak - but it is bot sip
20:28 < fake> th_: linphone crashes when i want to open the configure dialog
20:28 < fake> rxr: oh
20:30 < rxr> fake: there does not seem to be a usable open-source soft-phone
20:30 < SMP> gnome-meeting?
20:30 < blindy> hmm
20:30 < blindy> strange...
20:30 < fake> SMP: it can speak SIP?
20:30 < SMP> but it's H.323 - even uglier than SIP
20:31 < blindy> nfs is slow as hell... 7k... while any TCP based protocol works just fine...
20:31  * fake has had enough of h.323 
20:31 < valentin> does anyone know a _good_ opensource sip phone ?
20:31 < valentin> could even be a commandline client
20:31 < SMP> linphone is supposed to be the 'best'
20:31 < valentin> hm
20:32 < fake> the only one i got working partly is linphonec, but i don't know how to change the codec, the 'speex' one takes 10kb/s (!)
20:32 < SMP> fake: in ~/.linphonec 
20:32 < valentin> afaik you can use the asterisk debug console to establish sip connections ,)
20:32 < fake> kphone is nice because of it's IM capability
20:32 < fake> SMP: where there?
20:33 < valentin> kphone does not speak valid sip
20:33 < darix> fake: speex 25.9 from teamspeak takes about 3,2kB/s (25.9/8)
20:33 < SMP> fake: [codecs]:audio_codecs
20:33 < fake> darix: that sounds nixe
20:33 < fake> nicwe
20:33 < fake> arghl
20:33 < darix> valentin: but it works.
20:33 < valentin> darix: not on ppc
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20:33 < fake> SMP: if i re-order that, it still uses speex, didn't try to remove it though
20:34 < valentin> darix: it permanently sents wrong rtp timestamps and it does not even do a correct hangup
20:34 < darix> valentin: wrong platform :p
20:34 < valentin> i don't know if kphone conforms to the standart on x86 either
20:34 < SMP> darix: it loses the same way on x86
20:35 < darix> SMP: hm
20:35 < valentin> and have you ever tried to use kphone on a machine with multiple ethernet interfaces ?
20:35 < darix> valentin: yes.....
20:36 < darix> valentin: even on amd64 :)
20:36 < fake> kphone gives me almost only garbage 
20:36 < darix> valentin: amd64 + onboard nic + realtek.
20:36 < valentin> but the startup is quite annoying - it pops up a dialog for every interface askin 'listen on interface eth134?'
20:36 < SMP> kphone pretends to do NAT-passthrough, it works for signalling, but STUN for RTP is really broken
20:37  * fake needs no special NAT stuff, on VPN anyway
20:37 < valentin> and last but not least - kphone is unable to handle a simple 404 error
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20:38 < valentin> ok, lets not talk about kphone anymore :)
20:38 < rxr> at least it rasied the google rating ...
20:39 < esden> hello everyone
20:41 < rxr> rehi esden 
20:43 < fake> when i remove a codec in .linphonec, linphone adds it again.
20:43 < fake> <irony>how nice of it</irony>
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20:56 < valentin> the linphone package does not compile when glib is not installed to /usr ?
20:59 < rxr> valentin: no
20:59 < rxr> likely you hit some sanity check - which does not match with your installed gnome ...
21:00  * valentin investigates this
21:00 < rxr> a ROCK Linux sanity check
21:03 < rxr> ouch - mine fails to build
21:03 < rxr> head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
21:06 < rxr> oh my - this cdb thing has an ugly Makefile
21:10 < SMP> ``don't edit Makefile´´
21:12 < rxr> SMP: ?
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21:15 < SMP> rxr: so it says on the first line
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21:16 < SMP> apart from that, the DJB build system is an order of magnitude cleaner than autoconf
21:17 < rxr> it is highly ugly
21:17 < rxr> I mean both are highly ugly
21:18 < rxr> oh - now let's see how xfree86 likes gcc-3.4.0
21:19 < valentin> libosip-0.9.7 is not availaible on ftp.gnu.org because The following files are not available because their authenticity is
21:19 < valentin> being confirmed.  We expect to have them uploaded Real Soon Now (RSN).
21:21 < SMP> it's been gone for months. use our mirrors
21:21 < valentin> 'real soon now'
21:22 < valentin> md5sum libosip-0.9.7 or what is their problem ?
21:24 < fake> valentin: maybe getting a last known good ?
21:24 < rxr> oki mine fixed, too
21:29 < rxr> what ugly code people produced over the years ...
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21:30 < MadTux> re
21:30 < MadTux> anyone awake?
21:31 < rxr> sure
21:31 < rxr> hi MadTux 
21:31 < MadTux> hi rxr ! good u are hrer
21:31 < MadTux> i have 2 questions for u 
21:31 < MadTux> 1. Where is the svn devel tree?
21:32 < MadTux> 2. Do you have any news for me on those sparc isos?
21:32 < MadTux> :)
21:32 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk
21:32 < rxr> stable is at:
21:32 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/branches/2.0-stable
21:32 < MadTux> Okis.
21:32 < rxr> MadTux: no - I was a bit fazinated about gcc-3.4 and played with it - sorry
21:32 < MadTux> Its ok i understand..
21:33 < rxr> but I SPARC soon, really ;-)
21:33 < MadTux> just please keep that in mind that.. I'm counting on u 
21:34 < rxr> yes - I do
21:34 < tcr> Is there anything particular interesting on the new worm spreading around?
21:34 < tcr> Which even made it into the Tagesschau
21:34 < MadTux> thanks rxr
21:35 < LowLander> yeah it is incompatible with ROCK
21:35 < LowLander> you should really work on that
21:35 < LowLander> else ROCK never makes it in the nwes :-)
21:35 < tcr> Bummer
21:35 < LowLander> evening BTW :-)
21:35 < MadTux> hi LowLander 
21:36 < rxr> ok - go out write ROCK Linxu only viruses and worms
21:36 < rxr> people will invest into ROCK products - especially into servers and firewalls
21:37 < LowLander> hehe
21:50 < valentin> tcr: tagesschau reported on most of the more widespread worms in the last month
21:50 < SMP> aaaak!
21:50 < SMP> a hardcoded prefix in package/kde/kdebase/kdm.cron
21:52 < tcr> valentin, I know. And I somewhat regret that they don't bring up a bit of critique..
21:53 < valentin> tagesschau sucks... but there were even worse articles in the past.
21:53 < rxr> yeah - they could list affected and unaffected Operating Systems and/or client applications
21:54 < tcr> rxr: I mentioned affected flavors of MS OSes today
21:54 < valentin> or they could simply say that windows is dangerous, but the msnbc guys would not be amused.
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21:57 < valentin> whenever i click on linphone's preferences menu entry the application crashes 'due to a fatal error'
21:57 < SMP> valentin: I've heard that, but it doesn't do that here
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21:58 < valentin> smp: i have no .linphone* files in my home and they were not autocreated yet
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22:06 < SMP> hmm, "stone network" is really broken
22:06 < SMP> ")syntax error: operand expected (error token is "
22:06 < SMP> "s included
22:08 < SMP> no manpages ...
22:09 < SMP> no documentation at all?
22:11 < rxr> manpage of what?
22:12 < SMP> rocknet
22:12 < rxr> it has at least in the Handbook
22:13 < SMP> stone leaves just loads of junk in /etc/network/config
22:13 < rxr> oughm - when I implemented it - it worked ...
22:14 < rxr> (for my use cases I tested ...)
22:15 < th_> cool - i thought the same today .oO(urgs - why is there no rocknet manpage); i resisted to think aloud cause i knew i would get the link for the handbook
22:15 < SMP> looks like the dialog output ends up in there
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22:18 < SMP> what the hell ...
22:18 < SMP> |  Set new value for tag 'ip'
22:19 < SMP> [ ip ] > 
22:19 < SMP> (I enter 10.0.0.1/24)
22:19 < SMP> and it ends up in config without the 'ip'
22:21 < SMP> why can't i enter 'y' after:
22:21 < SMP> |   Unconfigured interface eth0 detected. Do you want to create an
22:21 < SMP> |   interface section?
22:24 < rxr> the time I wrote this it worked - if you could investigate it ...
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22:26 < SMP> hmmm ...
22:34 < SMP> no way to set mtu or advmss for the defaultroute ...
22:34 < SMP> rocknet is so useful when 90% of the lines in /etc/rocknet/config are script lines ...
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22:39 < rolla> re
22:42 < rxr> SMP: in which interesting configuration do you need to tweak the mtu and advmss ?
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22:47 < rxr> SMP: if it is a recent ROCK Net it passes all options in the gw line to ip - so you can add metric, and so on
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23:07 < rxr> hi praenti 
23:07 < praenti> hi
23:07 < valentin> hi praenti
23:08 < praenti> i'm only a few minutes here. only reactivated my irssi
23:08 < valentin> bye praenti ,)
23:08 < praenti> i need some sleep after last weekend...
23:08 < praenti> gn8
23:16 < SMP> rxr: being behind a tunnel that reduces the path-MTU
23:24 < rxr> SMP: you are at the gw tag?
23:24 < rxr> just add the needed iproute arguments - if ROCK Net on the box is recent all arguments are passed thru ...
23:27 < SMP> well, it is 'recent', but I don't see such code in modules/iproute2.sh
23:30 < rxr> oh - I special cased metric
23:30 < rxr> bad
23:31  * rxr adding this to the long TODO file
23:31 < rxr> du -csh TODO
23:31 < rxr> 45MB
23:31 < rxr> .oO
23:32 < rxr> oh - puh, has not been my todo, accidently grabbed the "leading Gnome to usability file" ...
23:33 < valentin> rxr : 45 MB ~ 1.000.000 todo items...
23:35 < rxr> valentin: do you think Gnome needs more fixes to become usable?
23:35 < rxr> oh - cool, I now have a gcc-3.4'ed x86 glibc-2.3.4-cvs
23:36 < valentin> rxr: i have not tried a recent version of gnome yet
23:37 < rxr> GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.3, by Roland McGrath et al.
23:37 < rxr> Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
23:37 < rxr> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
23:37 < rxr> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
23:37 < rxr> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
23:37 < rxr> Compiled by GNU CC version 3.4.0.
23:37 < rxr> Compiled on a Linux 2.4.26-rock system on 2004-05-03.
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