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--- Log opened Sun May 09 00:00:34 2004 00:07 < LowLander> == 00:06:27 =[5]=> Building base/iproute2 [2.4.7-ahu-20021020 2.1.0-DEV]. 00:07 < LowLander> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 00:07 < LowLander> -> Preparing build in src.iproute2.1084053967.28610.784733701 00:07 < LowLander> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-iproute2.out 00:07 < LowLander> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-iproute2.out -> 5-iproute2.log 00:07 < LowLander> == 05/09/04 00:06:51 =[5]=> Finished building package iproute2. 00:13 < rxr> ok - thanks 00:14 < rxr> so - firefox build running 00:28 < mnemoc> re 00:35 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 00:39 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 00:40 < mnemoc> rxr: why bdb_33_ for iproute2? 00:44 < mnemoc> in fact with current bdb.conf bdb41 (which is default, so it's db-185.h is available at usr/icnlude) or bdb33 (which path is on the makefile) are fine 00:47 < rxr> the .cache listed this 00:47 < mnemoc> oh 00:48 < mnemoc> ok :) 00:48 < rxr> so [ -f $root/usr/include/db-185.h] should be better? 00:48 < rxr> mnemoc: bdb4.xyz was also present ... 00:48 < rxr> I have not investigated fully ... 00:49 < mnemoc> well.. i don't know if anyone want's this arpd ;) 00:49 < mnemoc> wants* 00:50 < rxr> what is it doing? 00:50 < rxr> userspace caching? 00:50 < rxr> or rarpd ? 00:50 < mnemoc> good question :) ... i'll need to read the source 00:51 < mnemoc> (usr/include/db_185.h is not currently present if bdb41 is not installed, bdb33,40 and 42 can be installed but default is bdb41 staticly) 00:55 < mnemoc> /arpd/ is daemon collecting gratuitous ARP information, saving 00:55 < mnemoc> it on local disk and feeding it to kernel on demand to avoid 00:55 < mnemoc> redundant broadcasting due to limited size of kernel ARP cache. 00:57 < mnemoc> it seem to be a good thing to have 00:58 * fake struggling 00:59 < fake> if i add a package thar supplies just a kernel module... one small .o/.ko 00:59 < fake> how would i do that? 00:59 < fake> guessing the module install directory is ugly 01:00 < mnemoc> lib/modules/$ver/misc/small.o 01:00 < fake> the kernel version is in $ver? 01:00 < mnemoc> you can grab that from include/linux/version.h 01:01 < fake> $root/lib/modules/.. 01:01 < fake> ah, ok 01:02 < mnemoc> that is correct for Build-Target but you can't be sure if Emerge-Pkg 01:04 < mnemoc> if $stagelevel == 9; then Emerging-Pkg and you can use `uname`; else use linux/version.h 01:08 < fake> stage 9 is also used for rebuilds 01:11 < fake> hm, i only get UTS_VERSION there 01:11 < fake> but that's fair enough 01:13 < fake> lx_kernelrelease="$( echo -e "#include <linux/version.h>\nUTS_RELEASE" \ 01:13 < fake> > conftest.c && \ 01:13 < fake> gcc -E -I./include conftest.c | tail -1 \ 01:13 < fake> | cut -d '"' -f 2 && rm -f conftest.c )" 01:13 < fake> thanks, rene *g* 01:14 < fake> but i'm gonna shortcut that 01:17 < mnemoc> i wrote that :'( snif snif snif 01:17 < mnemoc> well... i stole it ;) 01:19 < mnemoc> rxr: do you have some idea of who to solve the issue that some package build their own helpers when rock enters the phase of 'complete-cross-builds'? 01:21 < rxr> fake: mom 01:22 < fake> rxr: i've got it already 01:22 < rxr> . $base/package/base/linux24/kernelversion.sh 01:22 < fake> aaah 01:22 < fake> even better i admit. 01:22 < rxr> $kernelversio 01:22 < rxr> +n 01:22 < rxr> this delivers the default kernel selected 01:23 < rxr> hm - this function (from clifford) is also not perfect I have to admit ... 01:23 < fake> mnemoc: my apologies ;) 01:23 * fake just sed/grepped it from version.h... 01:24 < SMP> < mnemoc> it seem to be a good thing to have 01:24 < SMP> noone needs it 01:25 < SMP> unless you really need it. but then you will know 01:25 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> well.. i don't know if anyone want's this arpd ;) 01:25 < rxr> yes - but it should be build if possible 01:26 < rxr> of - rebuilding firefox w/ a fix applied 01:26 < rxr> s/of/ok/ 01:26 * rxr waiting interrested how much the ccache will yield ;-) 01:26 < mnemoc> ccache is a good friend 01:27 < rxr> SMP: has clifford already asked you if you want / have time to implement the download restructuring ? 01:27 < SMP> yes 01:27 < rxr> and - what has been your answer? 01:28 < SMP> my answer isn't so much useful anymore, but I guess I'll have to do it later today 01:29 < rxr> SMP: you once said per xtar patches would be nice, I implemented (if one can use this word for such a tiny change) this in: 01:29 < rxr> 2004050801493618922 01:29 < SMP> are you sure I said that? hmmm 01:29 < mnemoc> "my answer isn't so much useful anymore" <--- what do u mean? 01:30 * rxr guessed he said he would do this until yesterday ;-) 01:30 < SMP> not quite, but ... 01:31 < rxr> oh - coll in a freshly built gkrellm the fonts are normal again 01:31 < rxr> after my gnome24 -> gnome26 update the fonts got really ugly in gkrellm 01:31 < rxr> (strange gnome code ...) 01:31 < fake> wee. cloop module ready ;) 01:32 < rxr> oh - nice ;-)! 01:35 < mnemoc> rxr: apropos 2.1, the a couple of month, when you branch, you will revert what's not wanted for that release or the trunk will not include anything non-2.1 until that? 01:36 < rxr> yes trunk will be worked on normally all the time - and when we have unwanted bits in 2.1 we will just revert them 01:37 < mnemoc> ok 01:38 < mnemoc> and, gcc33 -> gcc3@2.0 or gcc33 -> /dev/null ? 01:38 < rxr> you just mean 2.0-stable ? 01:39 < mnemoc> yep 01:39 < mnemoc> 2.1 will be 3.4, then what will happen to gcc33 01:40 < rxr> in 2.1 it will be removed 01:40 < mnemoc> /dev/null then 01:40 < rxr> in 2.0 it will be maintained - since this is what was branched as 2.0 01:40 < mnemoc> but always as gcc33 01:41 < rxr> yes, core packages should not be removed / changed in 2.0 01:41 < rxr> hm - I do not get so much cache hits for firefox 01:41 < rxr> might be due to patch to nsRegion - might be used quite often ... :-( 01:42 < mnemoc> next time will be faster :p .... if you don't patch it again 01:42 < rxr> :-( 01:43 < mnemoc> ^^ 01:43 < rxr> hm - currently the thing compiles thousand idl files using perl :-( 01:44 < rxr> maybe we should add sed, awk and perl caches, too 01:45 < rxr> (hey - that would also speedup ./scripts/Config 01:52 < mnemoc> rxr: how would you cache those? 01:53 < rxr> was just joking ;-) 01:54 < mnemoc> :\ 01:54 < SMP> let's turn scripts/ into WebServices, we can then use various advances cacheing techniques that work for these 01:55 < mnemoc> o_O 01:55 < SMP> (does that need a smiley?) 01:55 < rxr> yeah - and you need a browser to configure and build ROCK ;-) 01:56 < SMP> well the browser is the least problem compared to Servlet container or mod_perl ;> 01:56 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-136-155.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["/lusr/bin/brain: received signal: SIGIDIOT"] 01:56 < SMP> gah, should really go to bed. 01:57 < mnemoc> =) 01:57 * rxr is off soon, too 01:58 < daja77> re 01:58 < rxr> rehi daja77 01:58 < daja77> thx rxr 01:58 < daja77> <- drunk 02:01 < mnemoc> daja77!! i have wine now if you like ;) 02:02 < daja77> <- had cai pirina or however you write this 02:03 < mnemoc> that's brazilian ;) 02:03 * rxr could also offer some wine 02:03 < mnemoc> "Caipiriņa" <--- do you get UTF8? 02:03 * tfing havin' a beer 02:03 < daja77> got it 02:03 < daja77> urgs beer 02:04 < fake> looks fine here 02:04 < daja77> yeah it looks yellow :p 02:07 < daja77> mnemoc: anyway i had two of them and i guess that was too much 02:08 < valentin> hi 02:08 < daja77> ho valentin 02:08 < valentin> someone has a million dollars for me ? 02:08 < valentin> https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2397756436&indexURL=0#ebayphotohosting 02:08 < mnemoc> a caipiriņa is not consider an strong drink here... but everything in that topic is habit 02:09 < daja77> mnemoc: i usualyy donÄt drink ... 02:09 < mnemoc> i get drunk with the smell of a vodka ;) 02:10 < daja77> hehe you see 02:10 < daja77> vodka is evil stuff 02:12 < mnemoc> _very_ evil to me 02:12 < daja77> vodka in banana juice is even more evil 02:13 < mnemoc> do not give me unproper ideas 02:13 < daja77> hehe hey i git such a drink 02:14 < daja77> got 02:15 < daja77> n8 you all 02:15 < valentin> n8 daja 02:15 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 02:15 < mnemoc> have a good wake up tomorrow 02:16 < mnemoc> i'll go too 02:16 < mnemoc> cu :) 02:17 < mnemoc> i'll not send more undesired packages today 02:32 < tfing> wasn't there an agreement to add a quick description of new packages in submaster submitting logs ? 02:33 < rxr> unification RFC do not seem to have such a big impact 02:35 * valentin -> bed 02:35 < rxr> oh - hi valentin 02:35 < rxr> cu - good n8 02:35 * tfing off to bed too 02:35 < tfing> gn everyone 02:38 < rxr> n8 tfing 03:15 < rxr> ok - the LED display on my RS/6k is is now displaying the CPU load (finally) 03:15 < rxr> so I should notive stalled ROCK builds earlier the next time ... 03:15 * rxr off now, too - n8 all 03:25 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBF2ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:26 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBEFFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:26 * fake struggling with mkisofs 03:29 < fake> Error: './sbin/rockplug' and './etc/rockplug' have the same Rock Ridge name 'rockplug'. 03:46 < fake> this *really* pissing me off 03:49 < mnemoc> tfing: i didn't know about the agreement you mension, but i can start to add a description of the packages i add 03:50 < mnemoc> fake: livecd target? 03:52 < fake> yes 03:52 < fake> damn mkisofs always puts all files into the same directory 03:53 < fake> *douh* 03:53 < fake> my fault. 03:54 < mnemoc> :p 03:56 < fake> no, it's not me that's stupid here 03:56 < fake> it's mkisofs 03:56 < fake> damn it 03:58 < fake> i just want to add all files in . to an iso 03:59 < fake> yeah, now i got it... 04:15 < mnemoc> find can help you to get the complete list 04:23 < fake> hm, it was just that i tried to do a mkisofs ... * 04:23 < fake> i forgot that it expects a topmost directory that gets stripped off 04:24 < mnemoc> oh :) 04:26 < fake> yeah yeah. too much use of k3b isn't good for cli health ;) 04:28 -!- blindy_ [~blindcode@pD9E4FA67.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:28 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958F4C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:28 -!- blindy_ is now known as blindy 04:32 < fake> module loading is still b0rken in bootdisk 04:35 < fake> *fixed* 04:36 < fake> it's the module stripping that breaks it! 04:37 < fake> wild guess hit the spot 04:39 < mnemoc> kudos! ;) 04:54 < fake> yeah, and now cloop passes pivot_root. kewl ;) 04:58 < fake> time to get some sleep 04:58 < fake> gn8! 06:11 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M371P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:18 -!- nookie [~nookie@M379P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:18 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:42 < rxr> maoin 10:46 < daja77> moin 10:53 < rxr> moin 10:53 * rxr doing PR at linux-kernel 10:53 < daja77> hehe 10:53 < rxr> see rock-user 10:53 < rxr> (for CC'ed mails) 10:55 < daja77> only compile fixes, nicely said 10:56 < rxr> (well - ok and DevFS forcing ;-) 10:56 < daja77> yeah 10:56 < rxr> the two replies in my inbox are quite positiv 10:58 < daja77> one thing i miss in rock kernels is the automatically switch off the machine feature 10:58 < rxr> the what? 10:58 < daja77> turn off the machine when doin shutdown 10:59 < rxr> hm? Here it does 10:59 < rxr> maybe you should force APM 10:59 < rxr> (oh - maybe this is a generic kernel issue - it might be that I eable ACPI / APM in the desktop config ... 10:59 < daja77> force that is switched off in kernel config 10:59 < rxr> ) 11:00 < daja77> oh they are different ... 11:03 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9D37.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:14 [Users #rocklinux] 11:14 [ Aard ] [ dsoul] [ lowy ] [ praenti] [ StefanG] [ valentin] 11:14 [ blindy ] [ esden] [ luckz ] [ rolla ] [ tcr ] 11:14 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ tfing ] 11:14 [ clifford] [ Freak] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ th ] 11:14 [ daja77 ] [ jsaw ] [ nookie_ ] [ snyke ] [ togg ] 11:14 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal] 11:43 -!- owl [~owl@dialin-212-144-049-001.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:43 < owl> moin 11:44 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-41.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:44 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-34.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:44 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 12:58 < blindy> fake: pong 12:59 -!- nookie_ is now known as nookie 13:30 < lowy> afternoon 13:30 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 13:59 -!- tcr_ [~tcr@pD9EA9CF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:10 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M299P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9D37.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:27 -!- nookie [~nookie@M371P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:57 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D6A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:02 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 15:15 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CAB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:42 -!- nzg [~CJD@D4d56.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:42 < nzg> moin 15:44 -!- nzg [~CJD@D4d56.d.pppool.de] has quit [Client Quit] 15:48 -!- owl_ [~owl@dialin-212-144-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:58 -!- owl [~owl@dialin-212-144-049-001.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:19 -!- mistik1_ [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:27 < mnemoc> moin 16:32 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:33 -!- owl_ [~owl@dialin-212-144-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["the last trip on earth"] 16:52 -!- Trilussa [100@ppp-62-11-84-46.dialup.tiscali.it] has joined #rocklinux 16:52 < Trilussa> ciao 16:52 -!- Trilussa [100@ppp-62-11-84-46.dialup.tiscali.it] has left #rocklinux ["Client exiting"] 16:53 < daja77> O_o 17:18 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-137-226.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:19 < nzg> moin 18:50 -!- nookie_ is now known as nookie 18:56 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C29D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:14 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D6A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:26 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB05A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:28 < rxr> yet another PVR: 19:28 < rxr> https://www.reel-multimedia.com/ 19:28 < daja77> hm 19:29 < rxr> just for inc. google rating ... 19:30 < daja77> lol 19:34 -!- owl [~owl@dialin-212-144-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:34 < owl> remoin 19:34 < daja77> hi owl 19:35 -!- tcr_ [~tcr@pD9EA9CF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:35 < owl> hi daja77 19:45 < rxr> *lol* kdirstat: 19:45 < rxr> cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wmissing-prototypes" is valid for C/ObjC 19:45 < rxr> but not for C++ 19:49 < rxr> hm- nice ccache usage increasing: 19:49 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 9.16% cache hits so far in ccache.chroot. 19:51 < BoS> re 19:56 < rxr> hi BoS 19:56 < BoS> hi rxr 19:58 < daja77> compiler cache rocks 20:01 < rxr> especially when one compiles combinations of mozilla based browsers 20:58 < fake> hi 20:59 < daja77> hi fake 21:08 < rxr> hm - libtools yields errors: 21:08 < rxr> *** Warning: Linking the shared library karbon_flattenpathplugin.la against the loadable module 21:08 < rxr> *** libkarbonpart.so is not portable! 21:09 < rxr> I have no idea what they should be about ... 21:11 < daja77> not prtable to what 21:11 < rxr> no ida 21:11 < rxr> idea even 21:11 < rxr> I just ignore it - it is KDE code - not mine ... 21:11 < daja77> crap message 21:11 < rxr> koffice to be precise ... 21:11 < rxr> yes - crappy tool 21:11 < rxr> damn gentoo troll 21:11 < daja77> who 21:12 < fake> ins't that trinity on rtl2? 21:12 < rxr> rock-user 21:12 < rxr> fake: movie started or ended? 21:12 < fake> hm, in the middle i guess 21:12 < fake> something about landing on mars 21:12 < rxr> fake: is it useful to powerup the tv-card board? 21:12 < daja77> gentoo trolls are besides debian trolls that group of ppl i don't like 21:12 < fake> rxr: if you like scifi 21:12 < rxr> ok *klick* surrr 21:13 * rxr needs a DVB-T firewire box for the iBook 21:13 < rxr> damn 4th box sucking electricity ... 21:13 < rxr> hm - I could shut down the U5 ... idle anyway 21:15 < fake> their scout drone is going berserk right now *ggg* 21:15 < rxr> rtl2 or rtl? 21:15 < fake> rtl2 21:16 < fake> oh no 21:16 < fake> rtl 21:16 < rxr> ok 21:16 < daja77> cool mail rxr 21:16 < fake> daja: what do you know about knoppix's boot process? 21:17 < rxr> rtl? 21:17 < fake> *rofl* they have toshiba nokia general motors EVA suits 21:17 < daja77> apart from that it is ugly? 21:17 < rxr> ther is some teenie stuff? 21:17 < rxr> rtl lokos scifi 21:18 < fake> rtl? red planet? 21:18 < fake> you know, big red ball, rocky, 21:18 < fake> now trinity is on 21:18 < rxr> yes - but you wrote rtl2 21:18 < daja77> she is too old anyway 21:18 < fake> yeah, i corrected that ;P 21:18 < rxr> ah ok 21:19 * fake wants his own trinity 21:19 < rxr> such an old one ? ;-) 21:19 < daja77> i'll be quite fine with just one girl 21:19 < rxr> sure an ISA card in this box ... 21:19 < fake> rxr: old means experienced *g* 21:20 < daja77> :D 21:20 < daja77> fake: you need kernel patches and stuff 21:20 < fake> daja77: i am interested in their miniroot.gz / linuxrc / init source 21:21 < fake> w00t 21:21 < daja77> fake: just open it and have a look :) 21:21 < fake> daja77: if you tell me where to get it? 21:21 < daja77> from the knoppix iso? 21:22 < fake> it's in the syslinux image, how can i extract that? 21:22 < daja77> you mean boot.img? 21:22 < fake> yes 21:22 < daja77> it is a floppy image just loop mount it 21:23 < fake> oh... err.. sure... stupid me 21:25 < fake> ok, i mount the cd, loop-mount the floopy image, then unzip and loop-mount the miniroot... let's hope i don't run out of loop devices ;) 21:25 < daja77> hehe 21:26 < fake> oh boy, they use a static sh in stage 1 21:27 < daja77> i said it is crap ... 21:29 < fake> well, the upside is that they can use their linuxrc for multiple arches without recompilation. but i doubt that is so useful for x86-only knoppix ;) 21:30 < daja77> you'l have to throw out that kudzu crap and replace it with rockplug 21:31 < rxr> oh - my shit fucking - damn was this an ugly Microsoft commercial 21:31 < daja77> huh? 21:31 < rxr> on rtl2 21:31 < rxr> erhm rtl 21:31 < rxr> thunderbird build: 21:31 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 15.83% (454 hits, 2414 misses) 21:32 < rxr> hm - all those mozilla based packages do not honour the prefix 21:32 < rxr> damn crappy srtuff 21:33 * fake didn't watch... *phew* 21:34 < rxr> kids running around in a school and M$ telling how great Microsoft invented super perfect high-tech suftware is fore education and kids and so on 21:36 * daja77 pukes 21:37 < LowLander> rxr had fun with the Gentoo ppl ? 21:38 < rxr> fake: is it already known where those robots come from? 21:42 < fake> rxr: the robot was their navigation system 21:42 < fake> rxr: but it got damaged and switched to 'military' mode or something 21:43 < daja77> LowLander: i wouldn't call this fun 21:43 < rxr> ah 21:45 < fake> rxr: those bugs are the 'great unknown' 21:45 < fake> wee! fireworks! 21:48 < fake> ... and now he burnt all the oxygen ... 21:58 < nzg> fake: all? he finally reached the kosmos-probe 21:58 < LowLander> daja77, whats no fun about it ? 21:58 < LowLander> just do yer thing 21:58 < LowLander> and don'T worry about the others 21:59 < LowLander> its not a race 21:59 < daja77> they suck, that's plain simple 22:00 < LowLander> some probably do 22:00 < LowLander> but than thats just human 22:00 < daja77> hey I know that :) 22:01 < fake> nice little kosmonaut icon *g* 22:02 < fake> now the little nice robot sacrifices itself i bet 22:05 < fake> or not 22:10 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M363P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:14 < rxr> the rocklinux-consulitng.de sites have 4 times the hits then on ohter days 22:15 < daja77> the kernel ppl? 22:15 < rxr> seems so 22:16 < rxr> checking for whoami... (cached) /usr/bin/whoami 22:16 < rxr> ^- really vital for a mozilla build ... 22:16 < rxr> people check things ... 22:16 < daja77> the default checks are crap 22:17 < daja77> tons of stuff checked and no test performed by the final app 22:17 -!- nookie [~nookie@M299P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:18 < rxr> yep - I just never notice a check for whoami 22:18 < daja77> :) 22:34 < fake> rxr: module loading does not work in the bootdisk target, because the modules are stripped in build_stage1.sh 22:37 < rxr> when I coded this it worked 22:38 < rxr> maybe it is a 2.6 only thing ? 22:38 < rxr> does it work when you uncomment --strip-debug --strip-unneeded ? 22:38 < fake> that's possible 22:38 < rxr> could you test 22:38 < fake> rxr: no idea 22:38 < fake> i've got no 2.6 bootdisk ready 22:38 < rxr> I would commit it when you say it work with this and that option 22:39 < rxr> you use 2.4 ? 22:39 < fake> in the moment, yes 22:39 < rxr> ok 22:39 < fake> i will try to add those options to strip in the next Build-Target run 22:39 < fake> have to fiddle with linuxrc.c first 22:40 < fake> cool, another scifi on kabel1 22:40 < fake> Aliens 2 22:40 * daja77 creating a birthday present 22:40 * fake would be satisfied with his own ripley, too 22:47 < tcr> pro7 22:48 -!- giftnuss [~giftnuss@p5087F382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:48 < daja77> why? 22:48 < tcr> too lated anyway 22:49 < daja77> heard about, the sasser guy 22:49 < tcr> Was about that kiddy who wrote sasser 22:50 < fake> tcr: thanks for your mail 22:52 < tcr> fake: No problem. Someone has to play the Big Daddy ;) 22:52 < daja77> O_o 22:53 < rxr> tcr: thanks for beeing such a helpful and wise daddy ... 22:54 < tcr> I do my best 22:55 < daja77> this is your best? 22:55 * rxr searching for the caliper to meassure this 22:56 * rxr wonders who needs to do "penis length contest"s 22:56 < tcr> daja77, eh? Don't dare to provoke me unless you want me to mutate from spreading-wisdom Big Daddy to kicking-ass Evil Daddy 22:56 < giftnuss> To daja77: is yudit now in ROCK? 22:57 < daja77> giftnuss: ? 22:58 < fake> rxr burried her in concrete??? 22:58 < giftnuss> i 've read on sm-list you have prepared this good piece of sw. 22:58 < rxr> fake: whom did I burried in concrete= 22:58 < daja77> no 22:58 < daja77> this was tfing iirc 22:59 < fake> yudith *g* 22:59 * netrunner back from kempten 22:59 < tfing> giftnuss: i did 22:59 < tfing> indeed 22:59 < daja77> :) 22:59 * netrunner was on a party with 13 girls. 22:59 < fake> netrunner: i found what breaks module loading in bootdisk 22:59 < giftnuss> sorry 22:59 < fake> poor boy 22:59 * netrunner *hugs* fake 22:59 < daja77> hehe 22:59 < fake> *scream* 22:59 < netrunner> hehehe 22:59 < netrunner> fake: nothing personal :) 23:00 < SMP> don't use yudit - use mined! 23:01 < tcr> What's the deal with both? 23:02 < SMP> Unicode? 23:02 < tcr> Vim is said to be capable of that, too 23:03 < SMP> vim handles some simple Unicode things 23:04 < tcr> What else do you need? 23:04 < giftnuss> writing bengali 23:04 < giftnuss> chinese 23:04 < tcr> I'd say that's possible with vim :) 23:05 < fake> vim\nibengali<esc> 23:05 < tcr> Don't get me wrong, my point is that those unicode editors aren't Real Editors, I guess 23:05 < daja77> it claims it can handle arab too, but it sucks 23:06 < SMP> tcr: stop guessing 23:06 < daja77> hehe right 23:07 < SMP> I'd say that vi(m) is better for coding - but noone needs advanced Unicode features for coding 23:08 < daja77> you could code java in unicode :> 23:08 < giftnuss> why not tcl 23:08 < tcr> Well, the feature list on that mined website regarding text editing isn't very impressing 23:09 -!- mistik1_ is now known as mistik1 23:09 < daja77> giftnuss: just because 23:10 < tcr> :) Anyway. I'm not doing any writing which needs unicode 23:10 < SMP> you should - text looks so much better with real quotes and dashes 23:10 < tcr> I'm using texmacs for that 23:11 < tcr> I /do/ use texmacs for that 23:11 < tcr> Screwed up tense 23:15 < tcr> Gn8 all 23:15 < rxr> tcr: nice dreams from your ueber-meta-distri 23:16 < owl> ueber-meta-distri? O_o 23:16 < daja77> don't worry 23:17 < owl> hmm. k. 23:18 < giftnuss> yudit compiles only whith a desc file. The best looking Unicode support is in pango. 23:18 < daja77> pango is no editor ... 23:19 < tcr> rxr: Jealous? :) 23:21 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB05A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:21 < rxr> sure - especially on your genius mind 23:22 < SMP> what the hell ... did I miss anything? 23:22 < owl> .oO( tcr and rxr are good friends? O_o ) 23:23 < fake> SMP: rock-user 23:23 < rxr> "I beg you to stop participating at this penis length contest, I'm fairly 23:23 < rxr> sure it's contrary to the intelligence of both of you. Your "discussion" 23:23 < rxr> (if this peu a peu We-Can-What-You-Can't flamatory can be called 23:23 < rxr> discussion at all) is practically for void ..." 23:24 < fake> rxr: >Your "discussion" is practically for void< isn't that right?? 23:25 * owl shots true 23:26 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBF2ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:27 < rxr> fake: I did not started this - and if such crap is in my inbox it would be harshly to ignore it 23:28 < rxr> his mail was even void'er ... 23:29 < fake> rxr: why? do you answer all spam mail, too? 23:30 < rxr> at least I do not classify mails with gentoo in the bits as SPAM ... 23:30 < fake> you should ;) 23:30 < dsoul> :> 23:31 < fake> if i add the --strip-debug blah flags insmod doesn't find the parameter flag symbols anymore 23:31 < fake> will this work if i add -f to insmod? 23:31 < rxr> don't do this 23:31 < rxr> does --strip-unneeded work alone ? 23:32 < fake> i'm now trying -f 23:32 < fake> after that i'll try only srip-unneeded 23:33 < giftnuss> Good night! :) 23:33 < rxr> n8 giftnuss 23:33 [Users #rocklinux] 23:33 [ Aard ] [ dsoul ] [ jsaw ] [ nookie_] [ rxr ] [ th ] 23:33 [ blindy ] [ esden ] [ luckz ] [ nzg ] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 23:33 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ snyke ] [ valentin] 23:33 [ clifford] [ Freak ] [ mnemoc ] [ praenti] [ StefanG] 23:33 [ daja77 ] [ giftnuss] [ netrunner] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 23:33 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] 23:33 -!- giftnuss [~giftnuss@p5087F382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #rocklinux [] 23:34 < fake> -f doesn't do the trick. besides, it taints the kernel... 23:36 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBF2ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:37 < fake> nope, just --strip-unneeded breaks it, too 23:37 < rxr> ok - so I remove them all 23:37 < fake> wait 23:37 < fake> i try strip-debug 23:37 < fake> alone 23:38 < rxr> oh - I thought you had this ... 23:38 * rxr waiting 23:39 < fake> --strip-debug works fine 23:39 < fake> not sure how much that saves 23:40 < fake> works on 2.6 too, saves about 300 bytes ;) 23:40 < fake> on minix.o/.ko that is 23:42 < rxr> committed into svn 23:43 < fake> thanks ;) 23:43 < fake> next thing would be to configure modules to and include on the install disk 23:44 < fake> so the module loading shell gets useful 23:44 < fake> i really need this badly for my notebook (firewire cdrom) 23:47 < rxr> hm - I mostly get ccache misses 23:48 < fake> hm... how can i solve this: i have to cloop-mount an image from a cdrom to get my rootfs, but still want to do pivot_root 23:48 < fake> what do i set as cdrom mountpoint? 23:49 < fake> mount with MS_MOVE? 23:53 < fake> j0, works 23:56 < rxr> can someone propose an imap server? 23:57 < fake> cyrus? 23:57 < fake> courier imapd 23:58 < owl> <- off. gn8 23:58 < fake> n8 owl! 23:58 -!- owl [~owl@dialin-212-144-076-091.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["saving money"] 23:58 < rxr> fake: I can count some myself - I meant propose, since well coded - in productions ... --- Log closed Mon May 10 00:00:49 2004