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--- Log opened Sun May 16 00:00:16 2004 00:00 < netrunner> rxr: alsa-driver: gcc-3.4.patch fails to apply (no file to patch). The file you patch is not in the tarball ... 00:01 < rxr> I have commited the alsa modifications 00:01 * rxr shrugs 00:02 < netrunner> well, wouldn't help me anyway, as I do not build for ppc, but ... :) 00:03 < rxr> I voted for reject 00:03 < rxr> just revert this one locally 00:03 < rxr> I have more changes for this one anyway 00:03 < rxr> and I know it failed - I thought I had not submitted it ... 00:04 < netrunner> np, I just share what I see :) 00:04 < rxr> all the other patches should be fine ... 00:09 < netrunner> build suspended, guests want to sleep :) n8 00:11 < rxr> :-( 00:12 < rxr> but greatings to your guests ... 00:13 < rxr> but I'll also soon skip further builds here - snice this fills my iBook /home partition ... 00:30 < rxr> hm - if this is true: 00:30 < rxr> # du -csh build/system-2.1.0-DEV-powerpc-powerpc-desktop-expert/ 00:30 < rxr> 19G total 00:31 < rxr> hm - no can't be 00:31 < rxr> soem stuff coutned multiple times ... 01:06 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux ["Irre explodieren nicht, wenn das Sonnenlicht sie trifft, ganz egal, wie irre sie sind."] 01:09 < rxr> n8 all 01:09 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-082-083-043-102.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:09 < valentin> n8 rxr 01:13 < rxr> oh - n8 valentin 01:13 < rxr> hm - running rsynv without bandwidth limitting sucks for rsync 01:13 * rxr needs to finally add traffic shaping for ssh non-bulk traffic ... 01:14 -!- daja77 [[2Cez5h3Ij@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:20 < mnemoc> rsync? 01:20 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-046-012.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:20 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 01:23 * mnemoc wonders how to code wall in bash 01:28 -!- javito [~loco64@201-003-234-046.fnsce7006.e.brasiltelecom.net.br] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 02:28 -!- link_ [~link_@212.101.21.193] has joined #rocklinux 02:56 -!- link_ [~link_@212.101.21.193] has quit ["leaving"] 02:59 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl.xan.ch] has joined #rocklinux 03:04 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl.xan.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 03:49 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBF838.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBF93B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:01 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-131.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:01 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:01 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has joined #rocklinux 06:13 -!- nookie [~nookie@M285P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:21 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M370P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:58 < fake> cool, i finally got isakmpd working with two dynamic ip's 06:59 < fake> ... didn't think it's that easy ;) 07:03 < dsoul> it's not, you are just so genius :P 07:09 < SMP> fake: method? 08:16 -!- christian_ [~christian@p5480848F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:20 -!- christian__ [~christian@p548084F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:23 -!- Frederic [~christian@pD953040A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:26 -!- Frederic [~christian@pD9530FC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:27 -!- christian_ [~christian@p5480848F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:40 -!- christian__ [~christian@p548084F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:00 -!- daja_ [~daja@dialin-212-144-072-059.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:19 -!- daja [~daja@dialin-212-144-017-009.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:24 < fake> SMP: evil shellscript and iaskmpd.fifo 09:30 < SMP> ah, just the way I suggested 09:48 * netrunner playing ges 09:48 < netrunner> gens 10:03 -!- ringo [~ringo@ip51cf58c9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #rocklinux 10:05 < rxr> netrunner: gens? 10:05 < rxr> netrunner: where do you do you found the ROM images ? 10:05 < rxr> sonic or so ? 10:07 < netrunner> rxr: google: genesis rom download .... and dig through all the haxxoring sites that are dialer breeds. 10:08 < netrunner> rxr: I have all sonics but 3 10:09 < netrunner> https://www.thaigaming.com/tradezone/rom/rom.htm for example ... 10:10 < netrunner> oh, quite a dead link collection :) 10:25 < rxr> on what box do you run gens? how many Mhz, and how much CPU load does playing cause ? 10:30 * SMP curses Clifford for scripts/Download 10:35 < rxr> YKW writes "According to Ars Technica, Germany has decided to vote against all changes to current European patent laws. In a statement given to demonstrators in Germany, Federal Department of Justice Minsterial Director Elmar Hucko read the riot act to the EC: 'Under no circumstances do we want American procedures in Europe, Hucko vowed with regard to the US patent process. A patent must be "a fair reward for a bona fide invention and not abused as a strategy to bludgeon competitors.' With the largest EU member against software patents and French IT leaders lobbying their goverment to vote against them too, Europe might be saved from software patents. At least for a while. An older Slashdot article about software patents in Europe is here." 10:35 < rxr> ^- /. 10:43 -!- ringo [~ringo@ip51cf58c9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:18 < blindy> moin 11:22 < dsoul> hi blindy 11:22 < rxr> hi blindy and dsoul 11:23 < dsoul> hi rxr 11:24 < rxr> *lol* Dave Jones: "I screwed up twice, and a) used the wrong CAN number to reference a vulnerability, and b) included the wrong md5sums in the advisory text I sent out. I suck." 11:24 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522324.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:25 < rxr> hi bluefire 11:25 < blindy> rxr: at least he's honest :) 11:25 < blindy> btw, you can expect LVP 0.4.1 today 11:32 -!- ringo [~ringo@ip51cf58c9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:32 < bluefire> hiho rxr 11:32 < ringo> hi bluefire 11:32 * bluefire waves 11:33 * ringo was back 11:34 * ringo thinks networking on windows xp s***s big time. 11:34 < blindy> s/net// 11:35 < ringo> hmmm must install rock but its not my computer :( 11:35 < blindy> windows is for playing games, and playing games only 11:35 < ringo> no games even that s***s big time ... 11:36 < ringo> I think wxp is a violation of your computer :) 11:36 < ringo> there must come some law agains wxp 11:37 * ringo afk shower (showering off wxp expirience). 11:38 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522324.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 11:43 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-156.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:43 * rxr shortly off 11:44 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-225.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:44 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 11:53 < netrunner> rxr: gens uses 99% of one of my 2 athlon 2,4GHz 11:54 < netrunner> but runs smooth :) 11:54 < blindy> what is gens? 11:55 < netrunner> genesis emulator 11:55 < blindy> ah 11:56 < blindy> don't emulators always complete burn a cpu? 11:57 < netrunner> probably. that's the good thing with SMP :) 12:07 < fake> SMP: why do i have only one enc ? 12:07 < fake> SMP: i have a 3-way-config 12:08 < fake> when i set them up to route to both networks, the packets only reacht the 'wrong' network 12:19 < SMP> one enc? you mean one enc0 interface on OpenBSD? 12:27 < fake> yes 12:27 < fake> shall i route everything through that?? 12:27 < SMP> enc0 is not what you think it is 12:28 < SMP> you don't set routes to IPsec destinations 12:29 < fake> oh, i don't? 12:29 < fake> but? what do i do? 12:30 < SMP> you need to set up SAs for the traffic you want to encrypt with your peers 12:30 < fake> aha! 12:31 < fake> security associations 12:32 < fake> in the vpn man-page it's not clear wether the ipsecadm-steps are also needed for the isakmpd-setup 12:37 < SMP> depends on which ipsecadm steps you mean 12:38 < SMP> you can use ipsecadm to define your policy, i.e. say what packets you want encrypted (if they are allowed to leave or arrive unencrypted) 12:38 < lowy> morning 12:38 < lowy> well afternoon already 12:38 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 12:38 < SMP> but the management of the actual SAs is done by isakmpd 12:38 < LowLander> hey fake hows the live-CD going ? 12:39 < fake> aaaah! 12:39 < fake> now i get it 12:39 < fake> stupid me 12:39 * fake never seen the 'encap' thing in netstat -r before 12:40 < ringo> life rock sounds nice ... 12:41 * fake could sm send t 12:42 < fake> but i wanted to fix s/th before, unfortunately i'm not sure anymore i remember what it was 12:42 < LowLander> fake it is useable already ? 12:43 < fake> LowLander: yes 12:43 < LowLander> can you put it online somewhere ? 12:43 < fake> SMP: how will i do routing, then? 12:44 < fake> LowLander: i will submit it to submaster, but not now. i want to do some final cleanups after i got some sleep 12:44 < LowLander> ok will look forward to try it :-) 12:45 < fake> .oO( when i did a 2-peer-connection, i could just route through enc0... ?) 12:48 < SMP> you _don't_ route at all 12:48 < fake> ... 12:48 < SMP> you tell isakmpd to negotiate SAs for the traffic you want to send/receive with your peers 12:49 < fake> yes, but how do i actually 'send' the traffic to exactly one peer then? 12:49 < SMP> SAs are in the IPsec-connection sections in your isakmpd.conf 12:49 < SMP> fake: that question makes no sense :> 12:50 < fake> SMP: my config files contain information about the 'internal' networks already 12:50 * fake now know he doesn't know anything 12:51 < SMP> the kernel will apply encryption before a packet leaves the host 12:51 < SMP> it doesn't matter on which interface it is going to leave 12:51 < fake> how can a package reach it's destination without routing? 12:51 < SMP> look at your netstat -rnf encap 12:51 < fake> yes 12:52 * fake now knows for what to google next ;) 12:52 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-190-163.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:52 < fake> so the routing is implied by the SAs 12:52 < SMP> (wait, gotta log into an actual box myself) 12:52 < fake> sort of 12:54 < SMP> the last column. peer-IP/encap-protocol/policy/direction 12:54 < fake> ARGH! 12:54 < fake> ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH 12:54 < fake> I am so damn stupid 12:54 < fake> sorry to bother you 12:55 < fake> now i know why the packets always reached the wring destination 12:55 < fake> i mixed up dyndns and internal net association. 12:55 < fake> *DOUH* 12:59 < fake> the encap stuff is all correct 13:03 < BoS> moin 13:04 < BoS> anyone here whit issues to ppc 13:04 < netrunner> *g* "Sex is like hacking...you get in, you get out, and you hope you didn't leave something behind that can be traced back to you!" 13:08 < fake> hrmpf 13:16 * fake will get some sleep now, first 13:23 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8DA2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:23 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CC18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:28 < Frederic> owl, owl 14:07 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958FDB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:13 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M509P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:13 -!- nookie [~nookie@M285P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:15 -!- ringo [~ringo@ip51cf58c9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:23 -!- blindy [~blindcode@p54803768.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 -!- tiefengrund [hans@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:33 -!- ringo [~ringo@ip51cf58c9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:56 < rxr> re 14:58 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-133-133.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:58 < nzg> moin 15:02 -!- ringo [~ringo@ip51cf58c9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:03 < blindy> hmm 15:03 < blindy> damn 15:03 < blindy> loop device with cryptoloop is making problems >_< 15:04 < blindy> gotta update loop-aes and ciphers 15:08 < rxr> trying to rebuild mozilla the 4th time today .. 15:12 < blindy> ARGH 15:12 < blindy> -newdelete once again fucked up my build >_< 15:16 < blindy> ok, no LVP today >_< 15:27 -!- tiefengrund [hans@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.62dp [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]"] 16:04 < dsoul> iproute2 can be compiled only with dietlibc? 16:05 * blindy gone 16:14 < rxr> dsoul: no 16:25 < dsoul> so why i get the same error as https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/reference/2003-07-22/1-iproute2.err only with glibc and not with dietlibc? 16:32 < rxr> dsoul: which ROCK Linux version are you building ? 16:33 < dsoul> current :) 16:35 < mnemoc> moin 16:35 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 16:35 < nzg> moin mnemoc 16:35 < mnemoc> dsoul: hi, what 'current' means to you? trunk? 2.0-stable? 2.0.0? 16:36 < mnemoc> hi nzg 16:36 < dsoul> trunk 16:37 < rxr> I did not got those ... 16:37 < rxr> maybe optimization setin ... 16:37 < rxr> setting even 16:37 < rxr> typing with > 3s latency s*cks a bti 16:38 < mnemoc> dsoul: i don't have dietlibc and i i have iproute2 working :) 16:41 < dsoul> cool :) 16:42 < mnemoc> can you publish your real errlog? 16:42 < rxr> and config 16:42 < rxr> arch opt setting would be enough for a start 16:43 < mnemoc> and ./scripts/Create-ErrList :) 16:43 < rxr> (ans list of submaster patches ?) 16:43 < rxr> just kidding 16:44 < dsoul> i will give them soon but now my admins on university starteded theirs plays with network ;) 16:45 < mnemoc> random-switchs-routers-and-cables-unplugs championship? 16:45 < dsoul> :) 16:48 < dsoul> https://pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl/~darksoul/logs/ 16:48 < mnemoc> .oO( why the _fsck_ i tend to use vi commands in shell prompt!!! )o 17:02 < rxr> rm -rf Pink - her hompage is flash only ... :-( 17:04 < nzg> why -r ? 17:05 < rxr> the dir the ogg files are in ? ;-) 17:06 < nzg> k, that should do it 17:07 < rxr> the search on amazon.com also sucks big times ... 17:08 < nzg> never used it...i prefer a real bookshop 17:09 < nzg> i want to hold the ware in my hand 17:10 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.43] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:49 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABDE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 < rxr> crazzy tetris in svg and mozilla 18:32 < rxr> https://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/svgtetris/svgtetris.xml 18:32 < rxr> hm - as expected takes quite some CPU load - 20-40% on my 800Mhz PowerPC to render this SVG Tetris ... 18:32 < rxr> those stupid code duplicating non-C able Gnome pseudo hackers ... 18:32 < rxr> eggtoolbar.h:212: error: previous declaration of 'egg_toolbar_append_element' was here 18:37 < rxr> crazy - this Gnome code duplication results in I can just apply my devhelp patch to galeon 18:37 < rxr> really crazzy and freak« ... 18:40 < dsoul> :) 18:46 < rxr> == 05/16/04 18:46:13 =[5]=> Finished building package epiphany. 18:51 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 18:52 < esden> hi ho everyone 18:52 < rxr> hi esden 18:53 * rxr just installeda dozen gnome libs in order to lunch the epiphany binary :-( 18:54 < rxr> ok - or even more 18:55 < rxr> gnome-keyring was the last ... 18:55 < dsoul> hi esden 18:56 < rxr> ok - epiphany and galeon should now also build ... (2 gcc-3.4 errors less) 18:56 < rxr> patch in submaster after a final rebuild ... 19:15 < esden> rxr: have you tryed to compile boost with gcc-3.4? 19:16 < esden> also log4cpp would be interesting but it is not in rocklinux 19:52 < rxr> == 05/16/04 19:11:29 =[5]=> Finished building package galeon. 19:53 < rxr> esden: boost built 19:53 < rxr> without patch 19:53 < rxr> Build [5] at 05/05/2004 from 09:18:12 to 09:43:59 CEST 20:07 < rxr> 208 Patches in Submaster (...) 20:14 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-190-163.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:25 < esden> rxr: good to know thanks 20:25 < rxr> ;-) No problem. 21:03 < SMP> oh, Clifford doing the patch dance 21:06 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@129.70.207.63] has joined #rocklinux 21:15 < rxr> cliffords poor mailserver ... 21:21 -!- daja_ [~daja@dialin-212-144-072-059.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:28 -!- daja [~daja@dialin-212-144-080-139.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:05 < netrunne1> omg ... VIRUS (W32/Netsky-P) IN MAIL TO YOU (from <?@[127.0.0.1]>) 22:05 < netrunne1> what mail server accepts such senders? 22:05 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 22:12 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@129.70.207.63] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:14 -!- nookie [~nookie@M277P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:30 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M509P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:31 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.112.233.134] has joined #rocklinux 22:31 < mnemoc_> moin :( 22:31 < mnemoc_> my shell box is down :'( 22:31 < nzg> moin mnemoc_ 22:32 < mnemoc_> hi nzg 22:34 < mnemoc_> chatzilla is not as discusting as i was expecting 22:47 < owl> moin. gaaaah. 217 spam-mails!?! gaaaaaaaah.! 22:48 < mnemoc_> one day? 22:48 * nzg had no spam the last 3 days 22:50 < owl> mnemoc_: nope. about 2 - 3 weeks i guess 22:50 < owl> (no... longer... first from 32 march) 22:50 < owl> 23 i mean 22:52 < nzg> hm 22:56 < mnemoc_> my nettools-replacement (bash+iproute2) is almost done :-) 22:56 < mnemoc_> sysvinit-wrappers will take longer :( 22:57 < owl> nzg: hm? 22:58 < nzg> was calculating how much spam per day 217 from end of march till now is 22:59 < mnemoc_> i'll be back 22:59 < mnemoc_> cu 22:59 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-043-102.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 22:59 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-043-102.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:00 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.112.233.134] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:13 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABDE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] --- Log closed Mon May 17 00:00:22 2004