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--- Log opened Sat May 29 00:00:49 2004
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02:44 < rxr> so - my openbench get's into shape
02:44 < rxr> btw, new results for PowerPC at:
02:44 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-rt4.png
02:44 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-bt4.png
02:44 < rxr> athlon-xp are scheduled for be build over night ...
02:45 < rxr> source are already gathered in a subverion repository ...
03:20 < rxr> ok - bench on athlon-xp started
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03:55 < nzg> moin
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04:15 < rxr> n8 all
04:38 < nzg> n8
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06:21 < nookie> hmm
06:21 < nookie> what's with svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de?
06:32 < nookie> svn.rocklinux-consulting.de works.
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09:47 < _Vr_> hi all
09:48 < dsoul> hi _Vr_ 
09:48 < _Vr_> :)
10:02 < blindy> moin
10:02 < dsoul> hi blindy 
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10:14 < georg_e_s> guten morgen / good morning
10:15 < blindy> moin
10:15 < dsoul> hi georg_e_s 
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10:57 < rxr> moin
10:58 < blindy> moin moin
10:58 < dsoul> hi rxr 
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11:33 < esden> hi all
11:33 < blindy> moin esden 
11:33 < esden> ahh blindy 
11:33 < esden> dein handy ist aus
11:34 < esden> and at home you are not picking up the phone 
11:34 < blindy> nur empfangslos
11:34 < esden> where are you running around?
11:34 < blindy> sitting downstairs
11:34 < esden> ahh ok ...
11:34 < esden> blindy: can I visit you for a minute? or two? ;)
11:34 < blindy> sure
11:34 < blindy> I'll prepare some coffee :)
11:34 < esden> kk ... be at your place in a minute ;)
11:34 < esden> cu 
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12:33 < netrunner> moin
12:35 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-rt-g3.png
12:35 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-bt-g3.png
12:35 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-rt-athlon.png
12:35 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-bt-athlon.png
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12:38 < netrunner> the 3.5 one seems not to be useful yet ;)
12:39 < netrunner> (for mac) ... and the build-time does not overcome the speed improvement.
12:43 < _Vr_> lo rxr
12:48 < rxr> hi netrunner  and _Vr_ 
12:49 < rxr> netrunner: I also do not know how many regressions 3.5 would produce in a full-system build
12:49 < rxr> s/know/want to know/
12:52 < netrunner> rxr: yet more than 34? ;)
12:53 < rxr> maybe not that many more - since now much is fixed for modern gcc's
12:53 < rxr> I guess most's will be InternalCompilerErrors ...
12:54  * netrunner trying to do the uml trick again.
12:55 < rxr> uml trick ?
12:56 < netrunner> target 
12:57 < netrunner> I had it once, right until rm -rf build/<buildid> erased half of my data
13:11 < netrunner> rxr: can I exclude a package from the build process? only it pkg_linux2?_{pre,post}.conf should be executed ...
13:11 < netrunner> with custmain it would be in the PkgQueue ...
13:13 < netrunner> I do not want to put the uml kernel patches to the target/uml dir ... so I want to create a package that patches the kernel.
13:15 < nookie_> https://www.allanpetersen.com/Images/Funny/FOOLED.jpg
13:20 < _Vr_> rxr: hum i've pb with adding openvpn packages
13:20 < _Vr_> it build 
13:20 < _Vr_> but it is ot include in the iso
13:20 < _Vr_> s/ot/not/
13:21 < rxr> you have adapted the build.sh ?
13:28 < _Vr_> hum hum
13:28 < _Vr_> no
13:33 < rxr> the line where I posted you should add it near
13:33 < rxr> for x in iproute2 iptables
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13:34 < esden> re hi all
13:34 < rxr> cu in some minutes /me off getting rolls and such for breakfast
13:45 < _Vr_> rxr: thx
13:45 < _Vr_> i test
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13:46 < _Vr_> lzo so ?
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14:46 < netrunner> oh, just found an old abandoned version of my uml target :)
14:48 < nookie_> https://chat4.fidion.de/redirect.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcamelot.gb-x.de%2F%7Eendamin%2F.mp3%2Fjeremy-mein_dorf.mp3
14:48 < nookie_> ah
14:48 < nookie_> https://camelot.gb-x.de/~endamin/.mp3/jeremy-mein_dorf.mp3
14:48 < nookie_> ^- download, if you're german ;)
14:51 < _Vr_> hum
15:00 < _Vr_> is there the tun kernel module in the router kernel ?
15:06 < rxr> ouhm - poeple @ motorola watch my gcc stats ..
15:06 < rxr> oh - and @ apple
15:06 < rxr> apache logs are cool
15:07 < rxr> ouhm - quite many people @ aplle ...
15:07 < rxr> apple even
15:07 < rxr> oh - openbsd.org
15:07 < rxr> microsoft ?!?!?
15:08 < netrunner> rxr: ever heard of web worms?
15:08 < rxr> redhat
15:08 < rxr> netrunner: and?
15:09 < _Vr_> :)
15:09 < netrunner> rxr: your site might not only be watched by humans
15:09 < _Vr_> :)
15:09 < _Vr_> lol
15:09 < rxr> netrunner: I grep for one file that has no public link and I have posted to gcc@gcc.gnu.org (or so) one hours ago ...
15:10 < rxr> I do not think there are many robots under this hit
15:10 < netrunner> rxr: so your file is publicly linked. it is archived in the many ml archives.
15:10 < rxr> neither worms
15:11 < netrunner> oh, compiled dsniff ... people polling mail here :)
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15:11 < netrunner> what was theprog that writes the stdin to a file and also to stdout?
15:12 < rxr> tee
15:12 < _Vr_> tee
15:12 < _Vr_> :)
15:12 < netrunner> thx :)
15:12 < rxr> netrunner: I have only a few hits for the linux-2.4-gcc-3.4 patch - and that is on lists for weeks
15:12 < rxr> and I have 270 hits for the gcc stats I submitted one hour ago
15:13 < rxr> no think about the worm and robot ammount
16:03  * fake going insane
16:03 < fake> maybe someone can give me a hint:
16:03 < fake> i use a gps navigation software in my car
16:04 < fake> (unfortunately, as there are none for linux, on windows :( )
16:04 < fake> it talks to me for routing information
16:05 < fake> now my problem is: i want to play back mp3s, and playback should be muted or volume turned down if the speech output has to say something
16:06 < fake> i am thinking about something like a virtual soundcard that monitors the 'real one' ?
16:08 < fake> ... how stupid of me to ask this here.
16:12 < netrunner> ...
16:13 < fake> to hell with it
16:13 < fake> i'll try to run the nav soft in wine. bleh.
16:18 < fake> "In particular, plan of record includes the ability to externally manipulate application volumes, and POR includes per-app volume control"
16:18 < fake> so, i am eagerly awaiting longhorn *rofl*
16:23 < _Vr_> longhorn sux
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17:14 < mnemoc> moin
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17:29 < netrunner> how/where are the tools.cross created? I am missing an includefile here ...
17:30 < mnemoc> parse-config set $toolsdir
17:31 < mnemoc> and.... Build-Tools:45 mkdir it
17:31 < netrunner> my problem is that I have no include/bits/syscall.h in the tools.cross dir. so I wanted to have it rebuilt and see if it appears.
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17:32 < mnemoc> ./include/sys/syscall.h
17:32 < mnemoc> ./include/linux/nfsd/syscall.h
17:32 < mnemoc> ./include/syscall.h
17:33 < mnemoc> not at bits/
17:33 < mnemoc> (linux24)
17:33 < mnemoc> what has syscall to do in bits?
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18:01 < netrunner> mnemoc: well, I have /usr/include/bits/syscall here.
18:02 < netrunner> comes from glibc23
18:02 < _Vr_> mnemoc: is openvpn 1.6 builded in dev version ?
18:07 < mnemoc> nope
18:07 < mnemoc> i have the patch but i have not sent it yet
18:07 < mnemoc> (not tested)
18:08 < mnemoc> _Vr_: i can send it to submaster and you tell me if it works ;)
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18:08 < _Vr_> hum :)
18:08 < _Vr_> not yet
18:08 < _Vr_> but yes
18:08 < _Vr_> :)
18:09 < _Vr_> after including it in the router target
18:09 < mnemoc> Config -> Expert -> pkgsel
18:09 < mnemoc> X lzo
18:09 < _Vr_> it seems don't work currently
18:09 < mnemoc> X pkgconfig
18:09 < mnemoc> X openvpn
18:09 < _Vr_> hum hum
18:09 < _Vr_> pkgconfig ?
18:09 < mnemoc> :(
18:09 < mnemoc> c'est la vie
18:11 < mnemoc> _Vr_: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004052918103532683 if you want to try ;)
18:11 < _Vr_> mnemoc: french guy ? :)
18:11 < mnemoc> nope, chilean :p
18:12 < netrunner> mnemoc: do you know how .h files get into tools.cross? Build-Tools only mkdir's include ...
18:12 < _Vr_> lol
18:14 < netrunner> 26 and 24 fail with this ...
18:14 < mnemoc> netrunner: i have no idea... i'll have to read the source ;)
18:15 < netrunner> maybe I can catch clifford walking around here ...
18:16 < mnemoc> :)
18:17 < mnemoc> brb
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18:35 < _Vr_> mnemoc: i don't see how to pkgsel
18:35 < _Vr_> ://
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18:36 < _Vr_> there is no entry like this in Config
18:36 < _Vr_> just list package
18:36 < _Vr_> no selection
18:36 < _Vr_> :/
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18:50  * netrunne1 driving back to $homecountry ...
18:51 < _Vr_> bye bye
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19:17 < _Vr_> anybody here ?
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19:34 < mnemoc> _Vr_: enable expert mode
19:34 < mnemoc> Config -> Expert -> PkgSel -> X foo
19:35 < _Vr_> where ?
19:35 < _Vr_> i don't see it
19:35 < _Vr_> - Additional Package Selection                                                                                                                           (none) No package preselection template                                                                                                                  [*]    Custom package selection                                                                                                                     
19:35 < _Vr_> here ?
19:35 < mnemoc> ===>   Edit package selection rules
19:36 < _Vr_> yes and ?
19:36 < mnemoc> enter :)
19:36 < _Vr_> i add new rules
19:36 < _Vr_> with X lzo
19:36 < _Vr_> and it do nothing when downloading
19:36 < _Vr_> ...
19:36 < _Vr_> :'(
19:37 < mnemoc> grep lzo config/something/packages
19:38 < _Vr_> nothing
19:38 < _Vr_> ....
19:39 < _Vr_> X -----5---- 750.000 base pciutils 2.1.11 / base/system 0
19:39 < _Vr_> i must add a line like this ?
19:39 < mnemoc> nope
19:39 < mnemoc> maybe your target is removing it
19:40 < _Vr_> :'(
19:40 < _Vr_> i want openvpn !!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
19:40 < _Vr_> sniff snif
19:40 < mnemoc> fix yout target and config :)
19:40 < _Vr_> how to ? :)
19:40 < mnemoc> what target are you using?
19:40 < _Vr_> router
19:41 < mnemoc> target/router/pkgsel.sh
19:42 < _Vr_> hum
19:42 < mnemoc> that target is very specific...
19:42 < mnemoc> it _removes_ the stuff the maintainer wanted
19:42 < _Vr_> yes i know and it is very helpfull for me
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19:42 < mnemoc> add openvpn to that perl expression and see what happens :)
19:43 < _Vr_> just openvpn ?
19:43 < _Vr_> or dependencies so ?
19:44 < mnemoc> afaics it auto-detects the dependencies
19:44 < _Vr_> ok
19:44 < _Vr_> i test that
19:44 < mnemoc> vi target/router/pkgsel.sh; ./script/Config -oldconfig; grep lzo config/default/packages
19:46 < _Vr_> no lzo
19:47 < mnemoc> and openvpn?
19:47 < _Vr_> no openvpn ...
19:47 < mnemoc> cd target/router; sh ./pkgsel.sh
19:48 < mnemoc> .oO( who's the author of this target? )o
19:49 < _Vr_> hum hum don't know
19:51 < mnemoc> sh ./pkgsel.sh should have created a new pkgsel.sed
19:51 < mnemoc> does it include openvpn?
19:52 < _Vr_> 2s
19:52 < _Vr_> no openvpn in it
19:53 < _Vr_> yes
19:53 < _Vr_> it is
19:53 < _Vr_> hum
19:53 < _Vr_> Config does not regenrate it
19:54 < _Vr_> no lzo
19:54 < _Vr_> no pkgconfig
19:57 < _Vr_> i ad it in the perl expr ?
19:58 < mnemoc> due to that perl thing is not called by Config add them directly to pkgsel.sed :)
19:59 < _Vr_> if i execute the sh it include it
20:00 < mnemoc> yes... you can add it to the perl thing too
20:01 < mnemoc> it's like fixing Makefile.am instead of Makefile.in :p
20:03 < _Vr_> :)
20:04 < _Vr_> who is maintainer ?
20:04 < _Vr_> you know ?
20:04 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> .oO( who's the author of this target? )o
20:05 < _Vr_> :)
20:05 < mnemoc> i do something similar in my targets but i render the sed file on Config if it needs to be updated
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20:34 < _Vr_> mnemoc:  Extracting the Linux Kernel Sources [2.4.25] ... 
20:34 < _Vr_> !> tar: dl-open.c:395: dl_open_worker: Assertion `new->l_se ..
20:34 < _Vr_> any idea aabout that ?
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21:53 < mnemoc> re
21:53 < mnemoc> _Vr_: test the tarball
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21:54 < _Vr_> md5sum ?
21:55 < nzg> moin
21:55 < mnemoc> bunzip -t
21:55 < mnemoc> moin nzg 
21:56 < _Vr_> what name ?
21:56 < _Vr_> ninux24 ?
21:56 < _Vr_> linux24 ?
21:56 < mnemoc> bunzip -t download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2
21:57 < _Vr_> bunzip2 :)
21:57 < mnemoc> :)
21:57 < _Vr_> it's in progress
21:57 < _Vr_> no output
21:57 < mnemoc> echo $?
21:58 < _Vr_> 0
21:58 < mnemoc> hm..
21:58 < _Vr_> build on debian linux
21:58 < _Vr_> if it help
21:59 < mnemoc> enable XTRACE on config and try again
22:01 < _Vr_> can i stop build process ?
22:01 < _Vr_> withhout loose builded package
22:01 < mnemoc> if something fails on stage<=1 it's better to not continue building
22:02 < _Vr_> ok but linux kernel is quite long to compil
22:02 < _Vr_> ok i relaunch
22:02 < mnemoc> uhmm... it's building even after that assertion?
22:03 < _Vr_> yes
22:03 < mnemoc> o_O
22:03 < _Vr_> hum
22:03 < _Vr_> non
22:03 < _Vr_> linux src not build
22:03 < _Vr_> linux24 build
22:04 < mnemoc> what are you building?
22:04 < mnemoc> (rock-version)
22:05 < _Vr_> 2.0.2
22:05 < _Vr_> svn download
22:06 < mnemoc> uhm...
22:06 < _Vr_> == 22:06:31 =[1]=> Building base/linux24-src [2.4.25 2.0.2].
22:06 < _Vr_> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
22:06 < _Vr_> -> Preparing build in src.linux24-src.1085861190.14681.2765430348
22:06 < _Vr_> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux24-src.out
22:06 < _Vr_> !> Extracting the Linux Kernel Sources [2.4.25] ... 
22:07 < _Vr_> !> ===[main_lx_src:30 (last $?=0)> rm -rf linux-2.4.25-rock
22:07 < _Vr_> !> ===[main_lx_src:30 (last $?=0)> mkdir -p linux-2.4.25-rock
22:07 < _Vr_> !> ===[main_lx_src:33 (last $?=0)> ln -sf /home/vr/work/roc ..
22:07 < _Vr_> !> ===[main_lx_src:34 (last $?=0)> tar -k --use-compress-pr ..
22:07 < _Vr_> !> tar: dl-open.c:395: dl_open_worker: Assertion `new->l_se ..
22:07 < _Vr_> !> /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/scripts/Build-Pkg: li ..
22:07 < _Vr_> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux24-src.out -> 1-linux24-src.err
22:07 < _Vr_> == 05/29/04 22:06:36 =[1]=> Aborted building package linux24-src.
22:08 < mnemoc> can you paste those 5 lines form src.blah/R.src/ERROR-LOG ?
22:09 < mnemoc> question, are you building as root or as vr?
22:09 < _Vr_> root
22:09 < mnemoc> ok
22:09 < _Vr_> what 5 line ?
22:09 < _Vr_> with !
22:09 < _Vr_> ?
22:10 < _Vr_> ===[main_lx_src:34 (last $?=0)> tar -k --use-compress-program=bzip2 -xf /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 -C /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/src.linux24-src.1085861190.14681.2765430348/
22:10 < _Vr_> tar: dl-open.c:395: dl_open_worker: Assertion `new->l_searchlist.r_list[i]->l_type == lt_loaded' failed.
22:10 < _Vr_> /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: 16928 Aborted                 tar -k $taropt $archdir/$srctar -C $builddir
22:12 < mnemoc> the ln too :)
22:12 < _Vr_> ===[main_lx_src:33 (last $?=0)> ln -sf /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/build/default-2.0.2-x86-pentium-32-router/root/usr/src/linux-2.4.25-rock /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/src.linux24-src.1085861190.14681.2765430348/linux-2.4.25
22:25 < mnemoc> tar -k --use-compress-program=bzip2 -tf download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 :-)
22:27 < _Vr_> i test
22:28 < mnemoc> does it fail?
22:28 < _Vr_> no
22:28 < _Vr_> 0
22:32 < mnemoc> cd src.linux24-src.1085861190.14681.2765430348/
22:32 < mnemoc> there is a debug script there
22:32 < mnemoc> execute it and run the test tar inside
22:34 < _Vr_> ok
22:35 < _Vr_> yes and ?
22:35 < _Vr_> :)
22:37 < _Vr_> no output
22:37 < _Vr_> nothing
22:37 < _Vr_> nada
22:37 < _Vr_> ://
22:39 < mnemoc> cd linux-2.4.25
22:39 < mnemoc> worked?
22:39 < mnemoc> or broken symlink?
22:40 < _Vr_> worked
22:40 < _Vr_> no output
22:41 < _Vr_> just list of extrated data
22:41 < _Vr_> nothing else
22:41 < mnemoc> remove the content of linux-2.4.25
22:42 < mnemoc> cd .. and try to do the exact tar line that failed
22:43 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-129-194.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Money underrun - Disconnecting..."]
22:47 < _Vr_> tar -k --use-compress-program=bzip2 -xf /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 -C /home/vr/work/rocklinux/2.0-stable/src.linux24-src.1085861190.14681.2765430348/
22:47 < _Vr_> there is all data
22:47 < _Vr_> :)
22:48 < _Vr_> hum hum
22:48  * _Vr_ confusing
22:48 < mnemoc> i'm puzzled too
22:51 < _Vr_> only one google response
22:51 < _Vr_> https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/rocklinux-2004-01-26
22:51 < _Vr_> :)
22:51 < _Vr_> it's u talking !!
22:51 < _Vr_> :)
22:52 < mnemoc> oh
22:52 < mnemoc> did i solved it?
22:53 < _Vr_> hum
22:53 < _Vr_> ;)
22:54 < _Vr_> same build system
22:54 < _Vr_> debian sarge
22:56 < _Vr_> no solution
22:56 < _Vr_> :(
22:57 < mnemoc> :(
23:02 < _Vr_> linux-src is not essential
23:02 < _Vr_> i'm not worry
23:28 < mnemoc> linux-header is the only essential ;)
23:28 < mnemoc> (for building)
23:53 < netrunne1> damn, why does $confdir/foo.diff become ROCK/download/bar/foo//ROCK/package/bar/foo/foo.diff ?
23:53 < mnemoc> wtf?
23:54 < mnemoc> (hi netrunne1)
23:55  * netrunne1 back home
23:55 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
23:56 < netrunner> quite relaxing to be allowed to drive 230 from the german border back home :)
--- Log closed Sun May 30 00:00:05 2004