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--- Log opened Tue Jun 01 00:00:38 2004 00:17 -!- _Vr_ is now known as Vroum 00:19 < esden> cu guys 00:20 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 00:20 < daja77> cu esden|zZz 02:26 < mnemoc> rehi 02:28 < rxr> rehi mnemoc ! 02:37 < mnemoc> hi rxr :) 03:17 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M305P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:18 < rxr> yeah - me layouting a letter since too many minutes (accumulated to > 1 hour alredy) 03:18 < rxr> damn (La)TeX crap 03:21 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 03:21 < esden> hi ho 03:21 < esden> finally at home in munich .. 03:21 < esden> nice 03:23 < esden> ok ... good night 03:23 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 03:25 * fake once again astonished by the meaninglessnes of pressure in movies 03:26 < esden|zZz> fake: which film has astonished you this time? 03:26 < fake> deep blue sea 03:26 < fake> they easily manage to close a door that has ~100 bar pressure applied from the outer side 03:27 < esden|zZz> humm ... have not seen that one ... but I thought that is a good one 03:27 < fake> well, it's o.k. 03:27 < esden|zZz> lol 03:27 < esden|zZz> 100 bar is ... erm ... a LOT 03:27 < fake> i don't have to say that opening it was as easy. 03:28 < fake> their 'trommelfelle' seem to be immune against pressure peaks 03:29 < esden|zZz> that is a film ... that is the same as hearing sounds in outer space ... and such ;) 03:29 < fake> oh, and the sharks know how to handle gas ovens 03:29 < fake> esden|zZz: that just becuase of the subspace interferences! 03:29 < esden|zZz> they are intelligent ... you must not forget that ... and they are beasts ;) 03:31 < fake> .oO( a space station would make for a perfect band room! ) 03:32 < esden|zZz> yes you can not go on anyone nerves? 03:32 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 03:32 < fake> yes - but i think the idea to use old bunkers is more efficient ;) 03:33 < esden> it is surely easier to get there 03:33 < fake> but in orbit, energy is cheaper! 03:34 -!- nookie [~nookie@M287P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:34 < fake> oh boy, i f34r their 3v1l d00r 0p3n1ng sk1llz! 03:35 < esden> you get more from the solar cells ... but still ... I think the life support is eating more then the plus you get in outer space 03:35 < esden> ;) 03:35 < fake> that may be true 03:35 < fake> plus i don't think you can get drugs around the next corner up there... 03:36 < fake> ... no 24/7 pit stops... 03:36 < fake> no fast food... 03:36 < esden> but you can get out and it is as on drugs ... floating above earth free like ... a bird 03:37 < fake> a bird that high? messy feeling 03:37 < fake> feeling like a dead bird.. wee! 03:37 < esden> you do not need so much to eat ... you do not need so much energy to move in lo gravity 03:37 < esden> humm ... I think we need to make a checklist to make a formal comparison ;) 03:38 < fake> *g* 03:38 < fake> pop stars don't need to do stupid diets anymore, they weigh nothing anyway in 0-grav! 03:39 < esden> not zero ... but near to zero gravity ;) 03:39 < fake> we could make the axis rotation adjustable, then they could adjust their weight *g* 03:39 < esden> that is an idea! 03:40 < fake> computer voice: "good morning! how much do you want to weigh today?" 03:40 < esden> "30 pounds please" 03:41 < esden> that is something for many women on earth 03:41 < esden> we should patent that ... we will be RICH 03:41 < fake> 30 pounds? you are bizarre... 03:41 < fake> "Ihr wunschgewicht - nach nur 3 jahren astronautenausbildung!" 03:45 < esden> "sage mal ... aber mal ehrlich - sehe ich in diesem anzug fett aus?" 03:45 < fake> *ROFL* 03:45 < fake> *beep* over 03:45 < esden> I always think about that sentence when I think about space and women 03:46 < fake> the hardest thing must be that they all have to wear the same suits *gg* 03:46 < esden> yes ... sure "you slut you wear the same sute as I do - but it makes you look fat" ;) 03:47 < fake> ah... women. unfortunate owl isn't here to participate ;) 03:47 < esden> ROFL 03:47 < esden> yes 03:49 < esden> that would be fun ... for sure ... she would try to kick us all the time ... or so 03:51 * fake going wardriving 03:52 < rxr> fake: invested into a buly to get rid of the flatline ? 03:53 < fake> rxr: *lol* no, i'll stay with my wired connection for now 03:53 < fake> rxr: flar_rate_, if i had a flatline, i'd not be here ... 03:53 < esden> humm ... nice film "Solino" 03:53 < rxr> ah - so only wardriving when you need s.th. illegal - like the Linux source code? 03:54 < esden> have you seen it guys? 03:54 < fake> rxr: no, just creating maps 03:54 * fake innocent angel 03:54 < esden> fake is stealing SCO property ... one moment I have to make a call ;) 03:54 < rxr> fake: but when you are at it - a copy of Linux would be cool ;-) 03:54 < fake> rxr: no, it's too hot... i'm not into such stuff... 03:54 < rxr> esden: yeah - and I have a Caldera Linux license, too ;-)! 03:55 < fake> rxr: maybe i could interest you for some snuff instead? *G* 03:55 * fake just kidding 03:55 < esden> wooow ... where am I ... in a leacher channel or what? 03:55 < rxr> I heared there are even crazzy people building CD distributions on this "code" 03:56 < fake> rxr: must be mad, evil beings 03:56 < esden> how ill! *sigh* they seem to like jail or so 03:56 * fake brb 03:57 < esden> humm, I really should go to bed now ... I still have to drive back to IN tomorrow and get the stuff I forgot there >_< 03:58 < rxr> esden: btw, if you have not yet used ICC on your C++ project, do not waste your time with it - I played arround with it the last days, and it often mis-optimizes 03:58 < rxr> neither openssl nor Botan have passed make {check,test} 03:58 < esden> ok guys .. I whish you a good night and nice sleep 03:58 < rxr> yeah - nice sleep to u2 03:58 < esden> rxr: it is compiling our code without problems 03:58 < rxr> esden: compilign yes 03:58 < rxr> esden: passing {checks,test} no ... 03:59 < esden> humm not good 03:59 < esden> ok thanks for the informatikon rxr 03:59 < rxr> some code works - e.g. GnuPG, openssl, Botan and GSMP are mis-compiled 03:59 < rxr> mis-optimized 03:59 < rxr> I even got cases of floating point exceptions ... 03:59 < esden> yuck 03:59 < esden> not good 04:00 < esden> have you informed the guys at intel about that? 04:00 < rxr> not yet, need to register for premium support if this is possible to get for the non-commecial version 04:00 < esden> I also found a bug in compilation some time ago ... it has a bug in explicit template instantiation 04:00 < rxr> and I'm not sure if they will listen if they head it is run on a Athlon-XP ... 04:01 < esden> ohh perhups that is the problem 04:01 < esden> not the compiler itself ;) 04:02 < rxr> I doubt this 04:05 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: daja77, valentin, tfing, owl, netrunner, Frederic, th_, Freak, nookie_, Vroum, (+6 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 04:09 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:09 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 04:09 -!- Topic set by SMP [] [Mon Mar 8 02:33:41 2004] 04:09 [Users #rocklinux] 04:09 [ blindy ] [ Freak ] [ luckz ] [ nookie_] [ snyke ] [ Vroum] 04:09 [ daja77 ] [ Frederic ] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ tfing ] 04:09 [ dsoul ] [ kasc ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ th_ ] 04:09 [ esden|zZz] [ Lorini ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ togg ] 04:09 [ fake ] [ LowLander] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ valentin] 04:09 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal] 04:09 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 04:09 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 04:26 < rxr> damn 04:26 < rxr> gs does seg-fault on PowerPC - maybe due to gcc-3.4 04:27 < rxr> this is the first real gcc-3.4 issue I found 04:27 * rxr powering up UltraSPARC to print on a USB printer 04:34 -!- _MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 04:34 < _MadTux> moin. 04:35 < _MadTux> Lorini, awake? 04:44 < rxr> moin mistik1 04:45 < rxr> _MadTux: even 04:45 < _MadTux> oh hey Rene ;-) 04:47 < rxr> yeah - setting up my business letters in LaTeX took me awake 04:47 < rxr> but I'm in bed in some seconds 04:47 < rxr> need to be up and to the post office in 5 hours ... 04:48 < _MadTux> oh 04:48 < _MadTux> so have a nice sleep rxr 04:49 < rxr> mistik1: and when you scrollback - I used the U5 for USB printing 04:49 < rxr> due to seg-faulting ghostscript on the iBook ... ;-) 04:50 < _MadTux> wee nice 04:50 < _MadTux> rxr, so does it mean there are isos? :) 04:50 < rxr> no :-( 04:50 < rxr> but there are nearly ISOs .. 04:50 < rxr> I even had not the time to test the 100% finished PowerPC ones yet ... 04:50 < _MadTux> good. 04:51 < rxr> I do this after my current commercial article finished (need money for bills ...) 04:51 < _MadTux> no big rush.. currently extremly busy with trying to get the patch queue done on elks.. 04:51 < rxr> so - good n8 everyone ;-) 04:51 < _MadTux> sleep well Rene 05:30 -!- _MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:04 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-99.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 06:05 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-235.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:05 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 06:29 < fake> today is mailinglist-membership-reminder-day! 06:54 < netrunner> moin 06:54 < netrunner> oh i c 07:08 -!- christian_ [~christian@p54808FCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:25 -!- Frederic [~christian@pD9E39FCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:55 < Lorini> moin 07:57 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBF96B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:04 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBE93C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:20 < blindy> moin 08:52 < Vroum> moin 09:06 < netrunner> _this_ is a cpu fan: https://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16247 09:09 < blindy> SHIT 09:09 < blindy> that's no fan, that's a jet engine! 09:52 < rxr> moin 09:52 < daja77> hi rxr 10:20 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-047-198.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:23 < rxr> hi daja77 10:25 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-208-212.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:38 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:38 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 10:38 -!- Topic set by SMP [] [Mon Mar 8 02:33:41 2004] 10:38 [Users #rocklinux] 10:38 [ blindy ] [ fake ] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ Vroum] 10:38 [ christian_] [ Freak ] [ mistik1 ] [ nookie_ ] [ snyke] 10:38 [ daja77 ] [ kasc ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl ] [ tfing] 10:38 [ dsoul ] [ Lorini] [ netcrow ] [ rolla ] [ th_ ] 10:38 [ esden|zZz ] [ lowy ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr ] [ togg ] 10:38 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal] 10:38 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 10:38 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 0 secs 10:38 < rxr> re 10:39 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C5F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:39 < daja77> qsc? thought they can't sell to you? 10:39 < rxr> daja77: the irssi is not on my home box .. 10:39 < daja77> ic 10:41 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 10:41 -!- Topic set by SMP [] [Mon Mar 8 02:33:41 2004] 10:41 [Users #rocklinux] 10:41 [ blindy ] [ fake ] [ luckz ] [ nookie_] [ SMP ] [ Vroum] 10:41 [ christian_] [ Freak ] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ snyke] 10:41 [ daja77 ] [ kasc ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tfing] 10:41 [ dsoul ] [ Lorini] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 10:41 [ esden|zZz ] [ lowy ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr_ ] [ togg ] 10:41 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 26 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 26 normal] 10:41 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 10:42 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 11 secs 10:42 -!- valentin_ [~valentin@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:42 -!- valentin_ [~valentin@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:47 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 10:47 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 10:52 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #rocklinux [] 10:52 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-40-247.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #rocklinux [] 10:54 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 10:55 * netrunner might have found a solution to all those bootup hangs ... 10:56 < rxr> netrunner: please post details 10:56 * rxr off to post office 10:57 < netrunner> rxr: it seems that it is related to the bios reporting wrong memory layout to the kernel, the following just helped me here: 10:57 < netrunner> linux mem=exactmap mem=640k@0 mem=896m@1M 10:58 < netrunner> oh, now I know why it hung thereafter, the second memory needs to be $mem-1 :( 10:59 < netrunner> I helped a proliant 5000 to boot with this. can verify it with my non-booting gateway @home tonight 11:08 < netrunner> https://www.reality-inc.com/df/idle-2.jpg :) 11:17 -!- nookie [~nookie@M261P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:25 < blindy> can _someone_ make this image into an ascii art to use as a motd? 11:25 < netrunner> python 2.3.4 released. 11:34 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M305P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:55 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8DA72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:03 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8DA49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:38 -!- BoS_ [~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-142.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:45 -!- BoS_ is now known as BoS 13:33 -!- Frederic [~christian@p54808131.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 -!- christian_ [~christian@p54808FCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:16 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C3E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:18 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8DA72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:08 < rxr> re 16:10 < daja77> wb 16:12 < rxr> hi daja77 16:12 < mnemoc> moin 16:12 < rxr> moin mnemoc 16:12 < mnemoc> rxr: change $topic ;) 16:13 < Vroum> :) 16:13 < Vroum> 2.0.1 !! 16:13 < Vroum> :) 16:13 < rxr> mnemoc: me is no op here ... 16:13 < rxr> esden|zZz: ? 16:14 < mnemoc> oh 16:14 < rxr> esden and others are registered as op 16:15 < rxr> https://www.linuxcentral.com/_v3/ 16:15 < rxr> ^- ROCK Linux @ 16:16 < daja77> rxr: hm you had op in this chan 16:16 < rxr> not that I'm aware off ... 16:16 < rxr> and if - how do I test this ? 16:16 < daja77> /msg chanserv op #rocklinux rxr 16:17 < rxr> and the other problem is that I do not my rxr authentification anymore ... 16:17 < daja77> ok this seems to be the problem 16:17 < rxr> Password identification is required for 16:17 < daja77> but you could register again 16:17 < rxr> the last time I tried the thing said one need two month of inactivity to do so ... 16:18 < daja77> or you just forgot your password 16:18 < rxr> jup - I have to many of them 16:18 < rxr> the ones I never need are rot over time ... 16:18 < daja77> maybe you could ask in #freenode for help 16:18 < rxr> too many even 16:19 < rxr> I have a pass on my hidden passwd paper - but the last time it did not work ... 16:19 < daja77> hm 16:19 < rxr> huh? 16:19 < rxr> Password accepted - you are now recognized 16:19 < daja77> :) 16:20 < rxr> the last time (6 months ago) I tried all spelling variants 16:20 < daja77> k. now try the op thing 16:20 < rxr> and now it did worked the firt time ?!?!? 16:20 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o rxr] by ChanServ 16:20 <@rxr> oh 16:20 <@rxr> cool 16:20 < daja77> :D 16:20 -!- rxr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux 2.0.1 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 16:21 <@rxr> https://www.linuxcentral.com/catalog/?prod_code=L000-239&id=C1Ch7JnRuA4Cm 16:23 < blindy> list price: 16:23 < blindy> $14.95 16:23 < blindy> didn't know we had a list price :)( 16:23 * rxr neither 16:24 <@rxr> I said they should sell it for production cost + handling efford and we agreed on $6.95 - I guess this and advertise thingy ... 16:24 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.205.171] has joined #rocklinux 16:24 <@rxr> this is an even 16:24 * rxr drove to much bicycle these days ... ;-) 16:25 < blindy> why so? 16:25 < mnemoc> any qmail guru? SMP? 16:25 < blindy> "Muskelkater"? 16:25 <@rxr> blindy: why advertice - or why bicycle ? 16:25 < blindy> rxr: bicycle 16:26 * mnemoc doing dirty thing's on qmail's queue :( 16:28 < mnemoc> things* 16:31 <@rxr> just so - faster then public transport - and some relaxing to balance the sitting around here ... 16:31 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o rxr] by rxr 16:32 * daja77 shoudl try building rtrock with gcc-3.4 16:34 < blindy> rxr: I see. Thought too much bycicling so you got a Muskelkater or something :) 16:36 -!- christian_ [~christian@p5480862B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 < rolla> re 16:39 < rxr> blindy: nope - just puffed out 16:49 -!- Frederic [~christian@p54808131.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:52 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 16:53 < esden> rxr: what do you need from me? 16:53 < daja77> hi esden 16:53 < blindy> moin esden 16:55 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D04F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:58 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C3E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:01 < esden> hi guys 17:03 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA38A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:07 * blindy gone 17:08 < tcr> moin all 17:13 < mnemoc> moin tcr, esden, daja77 17:14 < esden> hi tcr mnemoc 17:14 < tcr> Yeah, hi 17:18 < rxr> hi esden 17:18 < rxr> just talked abou /topic change - I thought I do not have the permissions 17:18 < rxr> but I had ... 17:18 < rxr> esden: so all solved ;-) 17:20 < esden> I think everyone has permissions for that ... 17:20 < daja77> only ps 17:20 < daja77> ops 17:21 < esden> humm ... ok so I have protected it ... 17:21 < esden> humm 17:21 < mnemoc> esdentem, can you add rxr to op list? ;) 17:22 < daja77> he is already in it 17:29 < mnemoc> =p 18:00 < netrunne1> rumpel 18:00 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 18:01 < esden> tolpatsch ;) 18:12 < mnemoc> rxr: desktop-master what do i need to use a digital camara on rock? (cannon a10) 18:14 < daja77> mount it or use gphoto2 18:16 < mnemoc> kernel stuff? 18:18 < netrunner> mnemoc: usb drivers :) 18:18 < mnemoc> nice :) 18:19 < christian_> gtetrinet? join: tuxipuxi.homelinux.org 18:20 < daja77> O_o 18:21 < mnemoc> uhm? 18:21 < christian_> he :) 18:21 < christian_> if you want you can join :)= 18:21 < daja77> don't think so 18:22 < christian_> yeh okay. but you are not everyone 18:22 < daja77> not yet 18:22 < christian_> o_O 18:22 < mnemoc> =) 18:34 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA38A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:51 < netrunner> damn, I shouldn't always make so many sandwiches 18:54 < netrunner> fear. https://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/24879.htm 18:57 -!- otto [~otto@adsl-18-137-194.int.bellsouth.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:59 -!- murl [quinton@murl.registered] has joined #rocklinux 18:59 -!- otto [~otto@adsl-18-137-194.int.bellsouth.net] has left #rocklinux [] 19:03 * netrunner just stumbled over cdr's with ROCK 1.7 written on them ... 19:17 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M271P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:17 -!- nookie [~nookie@M261P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:37 * netrunner using his old 1.7 cd to boot the unwilling mmx ... 19:40 < rxr> re 19:41 < Vroum> re rxr 19:41 < rxr> mnemoc: either it is a usb-storage device and can be mounted from /dev/scsi 19:41 < rxr> mnemoc: or you need gphoto 19:42 < rxr> mnemoc: for gphoto you can either use a CLI (gphoto) to retriebve the images, or use gtkam or kde konqueror 19:42 < rxr> mnemoc: in konqueror just camera:// or kamera:// (do not remember exactly 19:43 < rxr> mnemoc: for gphoto there is also a clool stand-alone app for kde but I forgot the name and we do not (yet) have it in rock 19:56 < netrunner> hi rxr 19:57 < netrunner> the proliant that hung after Found Compressed Ramdisk at ... was helped with the mem=exactmap mem=640k@0 mem=895M@1M 19:57 < netrunner> but my gateway had a problem at a later point, hung after freeing unused kernel memory 19:58 < netrunner> I accidently learned that it boots fine with 1.7 boot cds, so I used them. 19:58 -!- murl [quinton@murl.registered] has left #rocklinux ["index: 0.19 lines/min - rank 95"] 20:16 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ["leaving"] 20:17 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:17 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 20:17 < rolla> there much better 20:43 -!- Ankur [Ankur@220.224.16.181] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9E8F281.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 -!- Ankur [Ankur@220.224.16.181] has quit [Client Quit] 20:44 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux ["Füge dich der Zeit, erfülle deinen Platz und räum ihn auch getrost: Es fehlt nicht an Ersatz!"] 20:45 [Users #rocklinux] 20:45 [ batok ] [ dsoul] [ LowLander] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ trekkie3k] 20:45 [ blindy ] [ esden] [ luckz ] [ nookie_ ] [ snyke] [ valentin_] 20:45 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ tfing] [ Vroum ] 20:45 [ christian_] [ Freak] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ th_ ] 20:45 [ daja77 ] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ togg ] 20:45 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] 20:50 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAADEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:54 -!- esden is now known as esden|bbl 21:05 < rxr> cool: 21:05 < rxr> Eclipse 2.x will run out of the box using gij 21:05 < rxr> if this is true it would ROCK 21:06 < rxr> anyone here wanna trying this out on ROCK Linux? It would ROCK if we had a 100% open source (non Sun Java needing) Eclipse package !!! 21:06 < rxr> ^- ehrm. the above was from gcc-3.4.0 - previous gcc's will not work ... 21:08 < daja77> sounds cool 21:08 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.205.171] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:20 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9E8F281.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Why?"] 21:20 < rxr> daja77: wanna try it? 21:21 < daja77> is there a submaster patch 21:23 < netrunner> rxr: maybe it gets even usable at comfortable speed then :) 21:23 < netrunner> rxr: package already finished? 21:25 < SMP> eclipse is quite fast already ... 21:25 < SMP> thanks to not using Swing ... 21:27 < rxr> netrunner: what package? Eclipse? No, I have not time to play with it ... 21:27 < rxr> SMP: I never tried to use it (after all I do not had a usable open-source java up to gcc-3.4 or so) but I read it uses this own native code toolkit ... 21:28 < rxr> but as OpenOffice, Eclipse is a nice suite to have in ROCK Linux ... 21:28 < rxr> daja77: I measnt try building eclipse - I have not tried it yet - just read it ... 21:28 < netrunner> anybody has a finished hostap package or do I have to continue my fight? 21:29 < daja77> so you looking for someone who package this thing? 21:33 < daja77> oh how do I create a kernel.conf.m4? 21:37 < daja77> k. think I got it 21:37 < daja77> trained m4 with autoconf today >_< 21:41 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D07E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:41 < rxr> daja77: exactly ;-) 21:41 * rxr looking for someone to try this gcj adventure out 21:42 < daja77> is it a big package? 21:43 < SMP> it's not for you if you have to ask 21:45 < netrunne1> the idea of a speedy eclipse tickles me. 21:45 < netrunne1> maybe when my new notebook arrived. 21:45 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D04F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:46 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 21:47 < daja77> SMP: i have no java development atm indeed, but i could try if it builds just for fun, if I don't need hours to download ;-) 22:02 < mnemoc> rxr: all clear :) thanks 22:02 < mnemoc> rehi ;) 22:03 < rxr> mnemoc: hi 22:04 < netrunner> clever alternatives to if [ $( echo $PWD | grep specialdir ) ]; ... ? 22:07 < rxr> netrunner: [ "${$PWD/specialdir/}" != "$PWD" ] 22:07 < rxr> oh - of course 22:07 < rxr> netrunner: [ "${PWD/specialdir/}" != "$PWD" ] 22:11 < rxr> new preleminary bench result: 22:11 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-rt-athlon.png 22:11 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-bt-athlon.png 22:18 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-063.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:18 < nzg> moin 22:18 < mnemoc> moin nzg 22:18 < nzg> hi mnemoc 22:19 < mnemoc> rxr: those benchmarks are a great reason to _not_ build in final machine :) 22:20 < netrunner> rxr: it's more about a substring. 22:20 * netrunner searching how to evaluate premake hook by hand 22:21 < mnemoc> hook_eval premake 22:21 < netrunner> ah 22:21 < netrunner> thx, just found :) 22:22 < mnemoc> :) 22:29 < netrunner> could it be that pcmcia-cs is broken? (i.e. it installs no modules ...) 22:29 < netrunner> just found while adding hostap to there... 22:35 < rxr> netrunner: nope - the modules are in the kernel 22:35 < rxr> netrunner: it is intended pcmcia-cs does not install it's own 22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: "_not_ build in final machine" what do you mean? 22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: because gcc get's slower ? 22:36 < mnemoc> yep 22:37 < mnemoc> worse buildtime/better runtime 22:37 < mnemoc> try to build a desktop with 3.4 on a pmmx ;) 22:37 < mnemoc> but you can build a great desktop-pmmx on a p4 22:40 < rxr> yep 22:40 < rxr> this is why we are @ rock-linux and not @ gentoo 22:40 < daja77> ^^ 22:40 < rxr> (despite of the other feature sets, and ugly code in gentoo ...) 22:40 < daja77> you can't stop pciking on them ;-) 22:41 < mnemoc> :p 22:41 < rxr> why should I ;-) 22:41 < daja77> but what you can't do is a p4 build on athlon 22:41 * rxr shortly off to get some food 22:41 < rxr> not yet -but a p4 is fast enough anyway 22:41 < mnemoc> the pseudo-cross-compilability of rock hits any other distro 22:41 < Vroum> at this time !! ?? 22:42 < daja77> Vroum: ? 22:42 < Vroum> rxr: ? 22:42 < Vroum> :) 22:42 < rxr> Vroum: not out into a shop - into the kitchen and into my mouth 22:42 < Vroum> aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh 22:42 < Vroum> lol 22:42 < Vroum> !): 22:42 < rxr> Vroum: or do you wonder anyway? 22:42 < daja77> hehe 22:43 < rxr> Vroum: me was up till 5 o'clock in the morning today - so my wakeup-rythm is shifted anyway ... 22:43 < Vroum> outch 22:45 < mnemoc> rxr: it you continue shifting it you will overflow 22:46 < Vroum> :) 23:00 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAADEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:11 < rxr> mnemoc: but then I'm in the normal range again ;-)! 23:11 < mnemoc> like a normal person :) 23:11 < Vroum> :) 23:32 * netrunner shutting down. 23:33 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9523129.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:34 < demian> hi 23:35 < Vroum> lo demian --- Log closed Wed Jun 02 00:00:53 2004