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--- Log opened Sun Jun 06 00:00:41 2004 00:01 < rxr> ah you mean as benchmark value ... 00:01 < mnemoc> yep 00:01 < rxr> maybe later - if is is high level enoughfor compiler optimizations ... 00:01 < rxr> but not in this run - i need the article until tomorror night 00:01 < rxr> and I just add a new C++ benchmark ... 00:01 < rxr> and I need to wire much mroe text - and review my text afterwards ... 00:02 < mnemoc> i can wait :) 00:02 < mnemoc> that benchmark can say a lot about that emulator 00:08 < rxr> what would you like me to run into it ? 00:08 < rxr> ah - you mean running the bench in the emulator ... 00:12 < mnemoc> _inside_ the emulator 00:12 < rxr> yeah - got it now .. 00:12 < mnemoc> :p 00:13 * daja77 posting kernel panic screenshots to the reactos ppl :) 00:14 < mnemoc> doh 00:14 * rxr already seeing daja doing a reactos ROCK ... 00:14 < daja77> the setup routine fails in qemu 00:15 < rxr> daja77: does ROCK boot in qemu? 00:15 < daja77> rxr: nope but i consider booting a bootdisk target overnight and testing some gcc-3.4 isos in qemu 00:15 < daja77> i have no current bootdisk 00:15 < daja77> could try with older ones only 00:16 < mnemoc> 2.0.x bootdisk still broken :| 00:16 < daja77> 2.1 too? 00:16 < mnemoc> no idea 00:16 < mnemoc> :) 00:18 < rxr> broken? 00:18 < rxr> ah - only bootdisks? 00:18 < rxr> cd not affected? 00:19 < rxr> I booted official 2.0.1 on x86 and powerpc just fine ... 00:20 < mnemoc> cd _is_ affected 00:20 < mnemoc> floppy, on the boxes i tested it is even more broken 00:20 < mnemoc> fdxms failed 00:21 < rxr> what failed? 00:21 < mnemoc> mount 00:21 < rxr> mnemoc: have you ever mentioned that somewhere? 00:21 < mnemoc> fdxms? or mount? 00:21 < mnemoc> mount: yes, fdxms: no 00:21 < rxr> this 2nd stage can not be mounted thing ? 00:22 < mnemoc> yep 00:22 < rxr> I can not produce this here 00:22 < rxr> what hardware is affected on your side? 00:22 < mnemoc> it seem to be hardware dependent 00:22 < rxr> how much does a flight cost ? 00:22 < mnemoc> three diffenret machines, all p4 00:22 < rxr> ouhc 00:22 < rxr> ouch even 00:23 < rxr> I thought only old stuff is beaten by that ... 00:23 < rxr> anything else? 00:23 < rxr> I avoid Intel stuff - some Athlon or so ? 00:23 < mnemoc> no tries on amd 00:24 < rxr> on my K62 or so 2.0.1 does boot just fine ... 00:26 < mnemoc> if you know how to 'improve' bootdisk to generate good debuging, i could test for you 00:27 < mnemoc> it _is_ dietlibc related 00:28 < daja77> win27 00:28 < daja77> args 00:30 < mnemoc> 27? 00:34 < daja77> on window 27 is the reactos chanatm 00:34 -!- Kisobran [~Kisobran@80.65.88.123] has joined #rocklinux 00:42 -!- Kisobran [~Kisobran@80.65.88.123] has quit ["www.nokia.com"] 00:44 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@sigenv.arpa-net.de] has quit ["Changing server"] 00:45 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 00:55 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/reactos-register2.png ^^ 00:56 < rxr> is the crash also available? 00:57 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/panic-shot.png 00:57 < mnemoc> the one that failed how prebuilt, handbuilt or rockbuilt? 00:58 < daja77> huh? 00:58 < daja77> i did not build reactos 00:58 < mnemoc> prebuilt then :) 00:58 < daja77> i used an image they prepared for qemu 00:58 < daja77> but it only starts that stupid setup tool 00:59 < mnemoc> ehm 01:01 < daja77> i've set the image writeable hth ^^ 01:04 < daja77> yes it works 01:06 < mnemoc> new screenshot? 01:09 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/reactos-desktop.png 01:11 < rxr> when I would implement a OS - I would not name the menu with power-off and suspend "start" how stupid is it to copy this fat usability bug ?!?! 01:14 < daja77> but windows with virtuell desktops ;-) 01:14 < daja77> virtual 01:14 < daja77> thet explorer is somehow broken 01:15 < rxr> shot ? 01:16 < daja77> it doesn't start up, some seconds after I try to start it the system freezes 01:19 < daja77> but at least it runs in qemu at all, even usable and not that dog slow like in bochs 01:35 < daja77> n8 you all 01:36 < Lorini> n8 daja 01:44 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ["Füge dich der Zeit, erfülle deinen Platz und räum ihn auch getrost: Es fehlt nicht an Ersatz!"] 01:44 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 01:46 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit [Client Quit] 01:46 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 01:48 -!- esden|bbl [~esdentem@apeiron-group.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:54 -!- esden|bbl [~esdentem@apeiron-group.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:00 -!- esden|bbl [~esdentem@apeiron-group.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:00 -!- esden|bbl [~esdentem@apeiron-group.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:20 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M293P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:38 -!- nookie [~nookie@M471P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:39 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-225.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:39 < nzg> moin 03:59 < mnemoc> moin 04:00 < nzg> and by... 04:01 < nzg> i finally need to get some sleep... 04:01 < nzg> n8 04:01 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-225.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Money underrun - Disconnecting..."] 04:01 < mnemoc> n8 nz 04:06 -!- blindy_ [~blindcode@p50801CB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:06 -!- blindy [~blindcode@p54803567.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:07 -!- blindy_ is now known as blindy 06:03 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-20.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 06:20 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-220.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:20 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 07:55 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBDF7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:00 -!- LowLander [erwin@p548027F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:25 < blindy> moin 09:41 < blindy> hmm 09:41 < blindy> The GoboLinux Compile thingie strikes me as somewhat... unautomated 10:00 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C168.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:10 < netrunne1> moin 10:10 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D24B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:10 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 10:12 < netrunner> blindy: linuxtag karlsruhe? 10:36 < daja77> the rock iso boots in qemu 10:38 < daja77> and it is broken :( 10:38 < netrunner> daja77: linuxtag karlsruhe? 10:38 < daja77> i can tell you on monday 10:40 < netrunner> prima .) 10:40 < netrunner> currently only 2 subscribers, me and rene 10:41 < daja77> could be that i have to write an exam on 23rd june 10:54 < netrunner> ah, fake also registered. 10:54 < SMP> huh. GogoLinux looks cool. finally someone did it ... 10:54 < netrunner> SMP: linuxtag karlsruhe? 10:54 < daja77> oh ok only had too less ram 10:55 < SMP> netrunner: ahm, no :( 10:56 < netrunner> SMP: excuse? 10:57 < daja77> do we need to? 10:57 < SMP> daja77: I don't need a smiley to tell a joke 10:58 < netrunner> daja77: no, but as I am in charge of getting RL people there, I pretend you have to :) 10:58 < daja77> maybe I am too sleepy for it 10:58 < SMP> netrunner: I had to chose either LinuxTag or the Alanis Morissette concert in Berlin 10:58 < netrunner> ah I remember 11:20 -!- nookie [~nookie@M231P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:21 < blindy> netrunner: at home 11:22 < blindy> netrunner: when is that? 11:24 < blindy> netrunner: because I will probably start working in Berlin on 14th of June 11:36 < SMP> that's ... soon 11:36 < blindy> yes, but if I'd acked it last Thursday I'd already be there tomorrow 11:37 < SMP> LinuxTag is June 23 - 26 11:37 < blindy> guess I won't be there then 11:37 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M293P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:41 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl.xan.ch] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 11:42 * blindy --> shower 11:45 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 < Lorini> moin 11:51 < SMP> wb jsaw 11:52 < jsaw> hi all 11:52 < jsaw> hi SMP 11:57 < netrunner> hi jsaw 11:57 < netrunner> jsaw: linuxtag karlsruhe? 11:58 < jsaw> hi netrunner 11:58 < jsaw> netrunner: when, what? 11:58 < netrunner> LinuxTag is June 23 - 26 in karlsruhe. www.linuxtag.de 12:00 < jsaw> still have to sort myself 12:00 * jsaw has been in an old farmer house in Allgaeu with family for one week (slow live! no news, no net) 12:10 < jsaw> cu 2n8 12:17 < blindy> re 13:02 -!- pep [pdemb@pb71.konin.sdi.tpnet.pl] has joined #rocklinux 13:02 < pep> hi 13:02 < daja77> hi pep 13:02 < pep> has anyone tried to build rocklinux 2.0.1 on Debian sarge? 13:02 < daja77> iirc someone did 13:02 < pep> I get an error message when building linux24-src package 13:03 < pep> is it a known issue? 13:03 < daja77> what error 13:03 < pep> hm 13:03 < pep> something with tar assertion 13:03 < daja77> yep seems to be a broken glibc 13:03 < pep> debian's glibc? 13:04 < daja77> yes 13:04 < pep> uh... 13:05 < pep> hm 13:05 < pep> maybe I'll try to get rock rescue filesystem and build it in chrooted environment, do you think it could help? 13:05 < daja77> it could 13:07 < pep> BTW I wonder whether this glibc bug is already in debian's bug tracking system? 13:07 < daja77> i have no idea 13:07 < daja77> could you use tar with rocklinux involved 13:08 < pep> well, I certainly will :) 13:08 < daja77> try it, and look if you get the same assertion 13:09 < pep> can you pint me to the file? 13:09 < pep> with this tarfile 13:09 < daja77> download/base/linux24 13:09 < pep> ah 13:09 < pep> okay, you ask me to untar this file? 13:10 < daja77> yes 13:14 < pep> ok, I did tar -xjf linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 and it works 13:14 < pep> linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 from download/base/linux24 13:15 < rxr> pep: in the bulid system a pipe is used to store the extracted files + other sandbox stuff around 13:16 < pep> hm, the message I got is: "tar: dl-open.c:395: dl_open_worker: Assertion `new->l_searchlist.r_list[i]->l_ty 13:16 < pep> pe == lt_loaded' failed. 13:16 < pep> " 13:16 < pep> this is the message from build log file 13:19 < pep> ok, so where I could find a tarfile with rock build environment, so that I could untar it and chroot to it? 13:37 < rxr> there are minimal ISOs you could boot or extract from 13:37 < rxr> pep: yes - known - try tar w/ LD_PRELOAD the sandbox wrapper to see if you can reproduce it without all the rock scripts ... 13:39 < rxr> netrunner: I have a very ugly email regarding the LinuxTag in my inbox 13:39 < rxr> netrunner: I thought you are going to get this organisation stuff done 13:40 < rxr> netrunner: could you - in the case you still want to organize it respond and pass the info to the people! 13:41 < pep> rxr: where I could find this sandbox wrapper? 13:43 < pep> rxr: fl_wrapper.so? 13:46 < netrunner> rxr: maybe because I got no feedback to my mail to the rlml? 13:46 < netrunner> rxr: Only thing I know is that you and fake come. I do not know when and how. (well, fake comes with his vw bus ;) 13:47 < pep> I did "LD_PRELOAD=fl_wrapper.so tar -xjf download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2" and it worked too 13:47 < daja77> ok trying disc2 13:49 < rxr> netrunner: you do not need to exactly now this - just pass reasonable information to those people 13:49 < rxr> say 8-10 people - at least 4 desks 13:49 < rxr> the usual numbers 13:50 < rxr> Clifford will most probably also be there 13:50 < rxr> and if we are too less people valentin will come, too 13:50 < netrunner> rxr: I'll write him, I thought they'd take this info from this infodrome thingie 13:52 < pep> I did it with cmd_wrapper and it worked :) 13:52 < pep> heh 13:55 < pep> look, guys, I have a problem with building rocklinux, but I am not going to hack these bash scripts to do that, is there a simple way to build it on debian machine or do I have to install rock from iso? 13:57 < daja77> well at least there should be no assertions then 14:03 < blindy> mnemoc: here? 14:05 < netrunner> blindy: do you have this booth equipment stuff? 14:07 < blindy> ARGH! For the 2,147,483,647th time: praenti was the one who offered to keep it 14:07 < netrunner> blindy: and, does he have it? 14:08 < blindy> netrunner: I think so 14:10 < pep> is there some workaround to this buggy glibc? 14:10 < blindy> pep: ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg glibc :-) 14:12 < pep> blindy: one thing I hate about Linux is that developers of one distro often discredit developers of other distro 14:12 < pep> I have Debian installed on desktop and want to build minimalistic rocklinux for my laptop 14:13 < blindy> ah, I see 14:13 < rxr> pep: we do not have debian here - you should just report it to the debian bug tracker 14:13 < rxr> or debug it ... 14:14 < rxr> with many various libc's on many different CPUs and distibutions I never saw such a glibc bug ... 14:14 < pep> rxr: so, it could be a bug in rocklinux build system :> 14:16 < rxr> or better dynamic linker 14:16 < rxr> pep: I do not think so 14:17 < netrunner> blindy: do you know the guy who offerd the booth equipment? praenti has no idea... 14:17 < rxr> you are free to prove so - of course 14:17 < rxr> netrunner: the one from clifford? 14:17 < netrunner> rxr: some mike eschner or so 14:17 < netrunner> rxr: could be via clifford. 14:17 < rxr> netrunner: is the booth equiqment not yet stored somewhere? 14:17 < rxr> netrunner: never collected? 14:17 < rxr> https://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040606 14:18 < netrunner> rxr: obviously not. clifford said blindy has it, blindy points to praenti, praenti points tp a big question mark 14:18 < rxr> then call clifford ... 14:18 < netrunner> again :) ok 14:19 < netrunner> he'll start a regression test with patches and .cache generation btw. 14:19 < daja77> netrunner: this mike who was on easterhegg? 14:19 < netrunner> daja77: think so 14:20 < daja77> hm 14:22 < netrunner> clif taking care. 14:22 < rxr> of what? LinuxTag as a whole? or tables? 14:22 < netrunner> this equipment stuff. he asks the guy who organizes it. 14:23 < netrunner> rxr: I stay organisator, not the best as it is my first time, but I do what I can ;) 14:24 < netrunner> hehe, I see my typing as throughput bursts in gkrellm :) 14:25 < rxr> netrunner: ok - then maybe you could reply back a bit more detailed then I - and maybe to other mails you got that I do not have ... 14:25 < rxr> from Berlin you can count at least one person - maybe to (valentin || /me) 14:25 < rxr> hm - better only one | 14:26 < daja77> hope i can be there, but perhaps only from 24th 14:27 < rxr> I'm also not yet sure since I have important exams - I really do not know why those freaks at LT have not learned from last year and put the event in soem time-frame without exams ... 14:27 < rxr> but at least one of rocklinux-consulting.de will be there - maybe two 14:28 < netrunner> daja77: doesn't matter, I enter you in this infodrome thing ok? 14:29 < rxr> yes 14:29 < rxr> enter two - valentin and me 14:29 < daja77> netrunner: ok 14:31 < rxr> netrunner: I got another mail ... 14:31 < rxr> answer cc'ed 14:32 < rxr> is there only the infodropm thing - or other mails to reply too? 14:32 < rxr> maybe you should also go thru the mails - and answer those with quesionts to the booth people ... 14:36 < netrunner> I try to get joey on irc, see what he needs. 14:44 < pep> heh, on 2004-05-27 someone asked the same question as me here :> 14:45 < daja77> yes it we coudl not reproduce it on non debian system 14:46 < pep> I have a box with FC 1.91, maybe I'll try to compile rl on it 14:47 < daja77> yes please do so and report 14:47 < pep> I cannot report the bug to bugs.debian.org because my mail system is dead 14:47 < daja77> :( 14:48 < pep> but AFAIK there is no such report in bugs.debian.org/libc6 14:48 < pep> heh, okay, that's not your problem 14:53 -!- ravelo [martin@adsl052.r24-Dbg2.Vie.AT.KPNQwest.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:53 < netrunner> hm, just found 2 linuxtag infomails in my =spam 14:54 < daja77> hi ravelo :) 14:54 < ravelo> ah hi daja77 ;) 14:54 < ravelo> just curios if there is #rocklinux ;) 14:56 -!- ravelo [martin@adsl052.r24-Dbg2.Vie.AT.KPNQwest.net] has left #rocklinux ["Verlassend"] 15:19 < netrunner> strange people live in these wilds ... :) 15:20 < daja77> you mean ravelo? 15:21 < daja77> he just came over from the reactos chan, co I told about rocklinux and he had met clifford before 15:22 < netrunner> https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/rocklinux/linuxtag_rocklinux_stand.eps 15:22 < netrunner> just an idea 15:30 < daja77> I quite liked it the way we had it last year 15:30 < netrunner> https://www.infodrom.org/Debian/events/LinuxTag2003/standbau.png 15:31 < netrunner> daja77: I wasn't there, what was it like? 15:31 * netrunner is a RL-newbie :) 15:31 < daja77> the booths are grouped like last year 15:32 < daja77> we created a triangle with the tables 15:32 < netrunner> was it open from both sides? 15:33 < daja77> no one front 15:33 < netrunner> oh, the url says 2003 :/ 15:34 < daja77> ok that explains why it looks like last year ^^ 15:34 < netrunner> :) 15:51 * netrunner building qemu 15:51 < daja77> :) 15:51 < netrunner> is it like a free vmware? 15:51 < netrunner> oh, fails :/ 15:52 < daja77> huh? 15:52 < daja77> it built fine here 15:52 < netrunner> /usr/src/rock-submaster/src.qemu.1086529891.4550.3927434759/qemu-0.5.5/softmmu_template.h:179: unable to find a register 15:52 < netrunner> to spill in class `GENERAL_REGS' 15:52 < daja77> gcc-3.4? 15:53 < netrunner> no, stage 9 should use host gcc, no? 15:53 < netrunner> 323 15:53 < netrunner> maybe athlon (mp) is the problem) 15:53 < daja77> oh 15:53 * daja77 trying gcc-3.4 build ins sandbox 15:54 < daja77> i could make a gem for you 15:54 < netrunner> pentium-mmx builds fine. 15:55 < daja77> :\ 15:55 < netrunner> trying k6-2 15:55 < netrunner> the good thing with my 2 250GB disks now is that I can keep a collection of builds and use them for updates/test builds 15:55 < daja77> :) 15:56 < netrunner> I plan to use my build server as primary server at home and only build inside a build-uml :) 15:56 < daja77> it fails with 3.4 >_< 15:58 < netrunner> jup. the k6-2 build has gcc34 16:00 < netrunner> how do I setup a tun interface? 16:01 < daja77> ah found a work around 16:02 < daja77> dunno, atm i used the dummy-network switch to get rid of the message 16:04 < netrunner> (qemu) BIOS panic at rombios.c, line 1558 16:04 < daja77> what have you tried to do? 16:05 < netrunner> qemu -dummy-net uml_rootfs 16:05 * daja77 writing a howto test rocklinux with qemu rolling rock article atm 16:05 < netrunner> :) 16:05 < daja77> and uml_rootfs is what? 16:05 * netrunner added "write an article how to build rocklinux in a rock-uml" 16:06 < netrunner> to his todo 16:14 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-173.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:15 < nzg> moin 16:16 < daja77> the gcc wrapper seems to have no effect on this package >_< 16:16 < dsoul> hi nzg 16:17 < nzg> moin dsoul 16:20 < daja77> the cflags used are always the same, anyway what the wrappers say 16:35 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M396P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:47 < netrunner> https://www.retrocomputing-world.com/roms/Sega_Mega_Drive/sega/SEGA.html genesis roms 16:47 < netrunner> hope they are ok :) 16:49 < tfing> some 404 16:52 -!- murl [quinton@murl.registered] has joined #rocklinux 16:56 * netrunner starting wget -r @uni :) 16:56 -!- nookie [~nookie@M231P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:02 < mnemoc> rehi 17:02 < mnemoc> blindy: here! :) 17:04 < nzg> moin mnemoc 17:05 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 17:05 < mnemoc> hi nzg, netrunner 17:06 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 17:09 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 17:09 < mnemoc> netrunner: both epia's discarded? 17:13 < mnemoc> uhm.. gotta go... bbl 17:17 -!- nookie_ is now known as nookie 17:18 -!- pep [pdemb@pb71.konin.sdi.tpnet.pl] has left #rocklinux [] 17:21 < netrunner> mnemoc: I bzip2ed the patches, and was not able to commit them to submaster :/ 17:32 < daja77> hi mnemoc 17:32 < daja77> how much ram does the box have on which you tested the isos? 17:33 < daja77> bbl 17:47 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB789.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:50 -!- murl [quinton@murl.registered] has left #rocklinux ["index: 0.23 lines/min - rank 121"] 17:59 < netrunner> what was the reason for the "glib is not installed (in prefix usr)!" problem= 18:06 < rxr> mixed gnome version 18:07 < rxr> sanity check 18:08 < netrunner> ah, strace showed me that it was searching in /opt/gnome26 while I still have /opt/gnome24 18:17 < rxr> just reading the .conf would have been suffient to find that out ... 18:37 -!- pep [pdemb@pb71.konin.sdi.tpnet.pl] has joined #rocklinux 18:37 < pep> hmpfh 18:37 < pep> when building rocklinux on FC 1.91 I get some error messages concerned with SELinux: 18:38 < pep> somethig like "audit(blah): avc: denied ..." 18:41 < pep> why the heck they enabled Security Enhanced in general purpose system? 18:41 < tfing> reboot with selinux=0 as a bootparam or something like that 18:43 < tcr> pep: Given that FC is supposed for Average Joe, Linux user, I think that going a more secure way is actually a very good thing 18:45 < tcr> Those people are not meant to build software on they own, so it's more likely that selinux won't cut them down 18:45 < tcr> their 18:45 < pep> well, I have always looked at myself as at Average Pete, Linux user :) 18:46 < tcr> If so, I can't explain you being here [which may sound a bit elitistical, but isn't really meant to... err, well it is :P] 18:48 < pep> heh, I'm here because I don't like gentoo :> 18:48 < pep> although I am great fan of python 18:48 < pep> that's complicated 18:49 < tcr> Gentoo has a whole bunch of shell scripting too from what I know 18:50 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 18:51 < tcr> Python is just everything around the pkg builds, I think 18:51 < tcr> Not that that is bad in any kind, just noted :) 18:54 < tcr> I haven't tried python, but it probably isn't all that bad, since it got lambda and higher-order functions 18:54 < pep> it is good, esp. when you design app first and then want to make prototype quickly 18:58 < tcr> Actually, you should design while making the prototype, otherwise this would kinda defeat a major reason for making a prototype 18:58 < pep> hm 18:58 < pep> heh, could be :) 18:58 < tcr> Unless you need to get something ready for your boss 18:59 < pep> yes, to show the idea of user interface for example 19:00 < tcr> Anyway, did the tfing's tip work for you? 19:01 < pep> I put "selinux kernel boot" keywords into google to find whether this is the right parameter and stuck on nsa.gov site 19:04 < tfing> pep: add selinux=0 to your bootparams, that should do it 19:07 < pep> can't boot 19:07 < pep> "Enforcing mode requested but no policy loaded. Halting now." 19:08 < tfing> strange 19:08 < pep> and kernel panic 19:14 < pep> okay, no need to hurry, my laptop is patient :) 19:27 < pep> echo 0 > /selinux/enforce did the thing 19:30 < pep> nope 19:33 * netrunner just downloaded 165MB of genesis roms 19:37 -!- giftnuss [~giftnuss@p5087F5CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:38 < giftnuss> hi 19:51 * netrunner trying scripts/Emerge-Pkg -repository gnome2 20:17 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden 20:18 < esden> hi ho everyone 20:22 < netrunner> hi esden 20:22 < netrunner> esden: linuxtag karlsruhe? 20:24 < rxr> hi esden 20:27 < esden> netrunner: ?? 20:27 < esden> dunno ... where is it? 20:27 < esden> I mean when 20:27 < esden> not where 20:27 < esden> hi netrunner, rxr 20:28 < esden> sbtw ... I found a must have program! : https://freshmeat.net/search/?q=cycle§ion=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 20:29 < esden> erm : https://freshmeat.net/projects/cycle/ 20:29 < esden> this link is better 20:29 < esden> ;) 20:40 < netrunner> esden: why? finally got your days? 20:42 < netrunner> hm, this is the first time some spammer uses my adress as sender adress, and I get all the bounces 20:43 < esden> netrunner: that is your first time? 20:43 < esden> netrunner: I get bounces pretty often ;) 20:44 < esden> netrunner: yes sure ... and that is amazing ;) 20:44 < esden> ok ... I go home now 20:44 < esden> cu all 20:44 -!- esden is now known as esden|bbl 20:44 * netrunner sees esden in the new ob ads 20:45 < daja77> hehe as a warning 20:56 < netrunner> hm, the emerge-pkg doesn't get the deps quite right :/ 21:11 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB789.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:15 < blindy> rehi 21:15 < daja77> re blindy 21:15 < blindy> thx 21:18 < blindy> hmm 21:18 < blindy> guess I'll go to bed 21:18 * blindy -> bed 21:18 < daja77> sound snice 21:21 < netrunner> ah, the guy from linuxtag calmed down :) 21:27 * netrunner wants to package the thing esden mentioned, but is unsure which category: extra/security ... extra/login ... extra/configuration ... 21:28 < daja77> lol 21:29 < netrunner> maybe scientific :) 21:30 < netrunner> even if it is more religion, because it works only if you believe very strong 21:33 < netrunner> ah, removing everything that has files in gnome24 helped, now the emerge of gnome2 works more smooth 22:30 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M376P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:42 < daja77> anybody has an idea why the gcc_wrapper is not enforcing the gcc command line? 22:47 -!- nookie [~nookie@M396P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:48 < rxr> daja77: what gcc command line 22:48 < rxr> netrunner: all linuxtag stuff organized now? - Any good news? 22:48 < daja77> rxr: qemu makes troubles when using gcc-3.4 22:50 < daja77> it needs the -fno-strict-aliasing flag additionally, so I added it to GCC_WRAPPER, in the log it says it is added but when gcc is executed it is not there 22:51 < rxr> I'm not aware of wrapper bugs - most likely a typo 22:51 < rxr> what exact code do you use? 22:51 < rxr> does qemu use g++ or gcc ? 22:51 < daja77> gcc 22:52 < rxr> maybe qemu adds -fstrict-aliasing itself? 22:52 < rxr> behind your -fno-... 22:52 < rxr> so GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE ... 22:53 < daja77> this is the command line of the wrapper 22:53 < daja77> New Command: gcc-3 -Os -pipe -march=pentium-mmx --version -s -fno-strict-aliasing 22:53 < daja77> and that's what is used for compiling 22:53 < daja77> gcc-3 -Wall -O2 -g -fomit-frame-pointer -I. 22:54 < daja77> looks completely different 22:54 < rxr> daja77: you are fooled be the packages' own make output 22:54 < rxr> daja77: this is not what is used for gcc ... 22:54 < daja77> >_< 22:55 < rxr> this is why we added the debug line on the top - so people are supposted to see what is used - even tho make does output what is written inside the Makefile ... 22:55 < daja77> hm strange then it should compile too 22:55 < rxr> does it compile when you built it with -f-no... manually ? 22:55 < rxr> -fno-... even .. 22:56 < daja77> haven't tried read on the ml that this should fix it 22:58 -!- ravelo [martin@adsl2235.r25-dbg1.vie.at.eu.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:59 < rxr> how do you add it to the GCC_WRAPPER ? 23:00 < daja77> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND " " "... 23:02 < rxr> hm - ok 23:02 < rxr> I bet when you try manually it will fail, too 23:02 < rxr> please try - and feel free to post the error here .... 23:05 < daja77> qemu-0.5.5/target-i386 -I/ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5 -D_GNU_SOURCE -c -o op.o /ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5/target-i386/op.c 23:05 < daja77> /ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5/target-i386/ops_template_mem.h: In function `op_rolb_kernel_T0_T1_cc': 23:05 < daja77> /ROCK/src.qemu.1086555544.19324.1896633501/qemu-0.5.5/softmmu_header.h:179: error: can't find a register in class `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm' 23:09 < daja77> btw install of cd 3 shoudl be finshed soon 23:11 < daja77> 23:07 < daja77> anyone had successfully compiled it with gcc-3.4? 23:11 < daja77> 23:09 < annex> if by 3.4 you mean 3.3.2, then yes 23:11 < daja77> O_o 23:19 -!- pep [pdemb@pb71.konin.sdi.tpnet.pl] has quit ["bye"] 23:20 -!- ravelo [martin@adsl2235.r25-dbg1.vie.at.eu.net] has left #rocklinux ["Verlassend"] 23:23 < rxr> daja77: this is a optimizer bug in gcc - can you try if it is fixed in the 3.4.1-prerelease? 23:23 < rxr> ;-)? 23:23 < rxr> or another machine optimizaion might work arround it ... 23:24 < daja77> so I need to rebuild everything with 3.4.1? 23:25 < netrunner> rxr: not all, but joey calmed down and is content so far. 23:25 < netrunner> rxr: I think I built it with 3.4 ... checking ... 23:25 < daja77> it did? 23:26 < netrunner> ah, no, was 323 23:26 < netrunner> but it failed with 323 for athlonmp too. 23:26 < daja77> >_< this gcc is nice 23:27 < netrunner> started a 34 build for k6-2 ... 23:27 < daja77> there are lots of unresolved symbols in kernel modules with this install 23:27 < netrunner> that has always been the case ... 23:27 < daja77> no 23:28 < netrunner> I always see this with 24, 26 is usually ok. 23:28 < daja77> not on alsa modules 23:28 < daja77> it has been only one module, this sedlbaur thing 23:28 < Lorini> n8 23:28 < daja77> n8 Lorini 23:28 < netrunner> n8 Lorini 23:29 < netrunner> ok, fails with the error you mentioned 23:29 < daja77> netrunner: you said something about an empty fstab with stone right? 23:31 < netrunner> daja77: jup 23:31 < netrunner> daja77: I do not know how that came, maybe because the kernel was quite old or so. I booted a 1.5 and installed then with actual bootdisk 23:31 < netrunner> s/5/7/ 23:37 -!- cap [~cap@p213.54.67.108.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 < daja77> i have this with current images too :( 23:43 < daja77> but would make sense that it is a newer stone in both cases 23:45 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rocklinux-install-fonts.png 23:45 < daja77> that looks strange 23:46 < rxr> yeah - gnome crap 23:47 < daja77> hopes that this finishes soon, i want to boot rock in the emulator :) 23:48 < daja77> have you experienced that problem with the empty fstab? 23:48 < giftnuss> gute n8 23:48 -!- giftnuss [~giftnuss@p5087F5CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #rocklinux [] 23:50 < rxr> how fast is rock in the emulator ? 23:50 < daja77> this shit, this damn gnome stuff again tries to connect to the net to load a dtd >_< 23:50 < daja77> rxr: the install is very slow 23:50 < daja77> it took hours 23:50 < rxr> yes - saw this net connect thing on 2.0.1-ppc yesterday, too 23:50 < daja77> but I only gave it 128mb thought 23:50 < rxr> we need to fix gconf not to output so much stuff and this net-connect attempt ... 23:51 < daja77> will see how fast it runs --- Log closed Mon Jun 07 00:00:56 2004