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--- Log opened Sat Jun 12 00:00:11 2004 00:03 < rxr> someone awake ? 00:03 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 00:03 < mnemoc> yep 00:04 < daja77> me too 00:05 < rxr> ah cool 00:05 < mnemoc> hi daja77 00:05 < rxr> can you quickly review: 00:05 < rxr> 2004061200031831362 00:05 < rxr> I want to apply it directly also in 2.0-stable 00:07 -!- Netsplit vinge.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: th_, Freak, nookie_, snafu_, Vroum, StefanG, togg 00:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nookie_, th_, Freak, Vroum, snafu_, StefanG, togg 00:10 < mnemoc> applyed directly to a running machine 00:11 < mnemoc> it seem to work :) 00:12 < rxr> write ok - when you think I should apply it ... 00:12 < rxr> (me also tested this during writing - but cut'n pasted into another file afterwards ...) 00:13 < mnemoc> it has done everything as expected 00:13 < mnemoc> then: ok to me 00:18 < rxr> ok 00:18 < rxr> thanks 00:18 < rxr> we need more wizards in this module 00:18 < rxr> e.g. a wireless and ppp one ... 00:19 < rxr> my girlfriend was not that pleased by the network configuratoin ... 00:20 < mnemoc> rock has some weakness in user-friendlyness 00:20 < mnemoc> but i love rocknet as is ;) 00:20 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 00:20 < rxr> only the core - and/or the stone frontend as well? 00:21 < mnemoc> i would like to change order without removing and readding but 'edit network/config' solves the problem 00:22 < daja77> rxr: have you experiened that emoyt fstab problem whe using stone for install too? 00:22 < rxr> no - but it as a 2.0 ... 00:22 < rxr> did you install 2.1 ? 00:22 < rxr> I can imagine s.th. 00:23 < mnemoc> i think i have applied all your patches to rocknet.... 00:23 < mnemoc> 2.0 to has has only created empty fstabs 00:24 < rxr> hm - a no, can't be a sort, head or tail problem 00:24 < mnemoc> s/to has/to mes/ 00:24 < daja77> rxr: yes 2.1 00:24 < daja77> the install in the emulator 00:24 < daja77> but iirc netrunner got that too 00:24 < rxr> mnemoc: the fstab generation failed for you in 2.0 ? 00:25 < mnemoc> yep 00:26 < rxr> stange 00:26 < rxr> strange 00:26 < rxr> you should have debugged the stone_mode_install immidiately ... 00:26 < rxr> alsways worked her eup to now ... 00:27 < rxr> such a lag in ssh sucks ... 00:28 < mnemoc> lag sucks 00:28 < mnemoc> i was with a customer i can't debug in front of him :) 00:29 < mnemoc> i'll test my next build on qemu and debug if needed 00:29 < rxr> mnemoc: ;-) 00:30 < rxr> just tell him this is normal behaviour and vreate a fstab using vi silently ? 00:30 < mnemoc> apropos SM messages... Alejandro Mery:\n\tupdated $pkg ($ver) ($reason) ? 00:31 < rxr> reason isoptional and if present not in braces just after the ($ver), optionally seperated using a - 00:31 < mnemoc> i 'silently' render fstab using sed -e '...' /proc/mounts > /etc/fstab and _tuned_ it by hand ;) 00:32 < daja77> mnemoc: you tried qemu? 00:32 < mnemoc> not yet but i trust you 00:32 < daja77> :D 00:33 < mnemoc> rxr: if it's to long? only short $reason allowed? 00:33 < rxr> no - reasons can be mulitple lines 00:34 < rxr> but it is best to indent them properly then: 00:34 < mnemoc> what should i send to get "* blah\n blah" and "*blah\n * blah"? 00:34 < rxr> * updated sed (4.0.9) - incooperated the fix for one of the 00:35 < rxr> many matching segmentation faults 00:35 < rxr> the indenter has two modes: 00:36 < rxr> 1) no circles detected: fixup as much as possible, try to indent 00:36 < rxr> 2) circles (*) detected: do not reindent that heavily and fix less 00:37 < daja77> is there an update patch in submaster? 00:37 < rxr> so if you want to have the paragraphs untouched, make sure you use the circles at the right places and they will be keept 00:37 < rxr> kept even 00:37 < rxr> daja77: for sed? 00:38 < rxr> daja77: this was only an example - no update ... 00:38 < mnemoc> \t[ ]*\*blah <--- this will be preserved? 00:39 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - I can not parse this correctly, do you mean: 00:39 < rxr> \t * start of text 00:39 < rxr> \t some more 00:39 < rxr> \t * the next thing 00:39 < rxr> then yes - this will be kept 00:40 < rxr> I also try to improve the indenting of the old sloppy texts later 00:40 < rxr> there is room for improvements, but I did not wanted to invest more time into this at that day ... 00:41 < daja77> rxr: actually there is a sed 4.0.9 ... 00:42 < rxr> hey ! this is voodoo 00:42 < daja77> *gg* 00:42 < mnemoc> ^^ 00:43 < daja77> should i prepare an update patch 00:43 < rxr> sure 00:44 < daja77> k. 00:50 -!- sopor [sopor@221-254.LlNnet.ucl.ac.be] has left #rocklinux [] 00:54 < daja77> done 01:10 < daja77> oops the ftp sites staes sed 4.0.9 is available since jan 1st 01:10 < daja77> guess we should review our versions 01:12 < rxr> hm - for so long? 01:12 < rxr> I often updated sed - due to problems we reported ... 01:12 < daja77> seems so 01:13 < rxr> oh - the last update is really some time ago: 01:13 < rxr> 2003-11-10 01:13 < rxr> updated sed (4.0.8) 01:13 < rxr> anyway - as long as there is no problem with a tool it is ok 01:14 < daja77> hm 01:14 < rxr> uglier are "update just as we can" which break stuff (like the floods on the mailinglist we had in the past) 01:16 < daja77> apart from gcc-3.4 which packages do you mean? 01:17 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Check-PkgVersion is a good friend :) 01:20 < rxr> daja77: years ago when people dumped updates into rock-linux that have been complete untested 01:20 < rxr> some did not even compile - some broke other things ... 01:20 < rxr> nothing recent 01:20 < daja77> ah k. thought you were refering to recent stuff 01:20 < mnemoc> dark ages? 01:21 < daja77> good :) 01:22 < rxr> mnemoc: mid ages 01:22 * daja77 removing 2.0.1 builds to get free disc space 01:22 < mnemoc> :) 01:22 < rxr> mnemoc: how do you use Check-PkgVersion 01:22 < rxr> I always found it quite annoying and several times thought about "fixing" it ... 01:23 < mnemoc> i let it run over my repos and the packages i'm interested 01:24 < mnemoc> then less checkver/*.msg 01:24 < mnemoc> and on a different term i paste stuff to ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch 01:25 < mnemoc> over a submaster branch of my main submaster branch 01:25 < rxr> I seee 01:25 < rxr> I find this .msg files quite unintuitive 01:26 < mnemoc> it's a dump :\ 01:26 < rxr> I would rather like to have debug in those files and the output in the form: 01:26 < rxr> sed-4.0.9 01:26 < rxr> withotu the random junk ... 01:26 < rxr> without even 01:26 < mnemoc> sometimes you can't sort the right 'last version' 01:27 < rxr> but my brain does not like parsing this junk ... 01:28 < mnemoc> sometimes i add [CV-DEL]s to .desc to minimize the junk ;) 01:29 < mnemoc> btw, we will need to add CV-URL to every package from sourceforge :( 01:30 < mnemoc> they 'download' servers don't share the file list anymore 01:30 < daja77> cv-dvelk? 01:31 < mnemoc> [CV-{URL,PAT,DEL}] are fields of .desc used by Check-PkgVersion 01:32 < daja77> ok new build started, off to bed now 01:33 < mnemoc> gn8 daja 01:41 -!- richard_jw [~richard@83.218.178.49] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:06 < rxr> imnbtw, another log variant allowed, is: 02:06 < rxr> * updated afterstep (2.00.beta3 -> 2.00.beta4b) 02:06 < snafu_> n8 02:08 -!- snafu_ [~versager@brln-d9ba2e16.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 03:21 < nzg> n8 03:26 < rxr> n8 03:26 * rxr off, in some seconds, too 04:01 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p548039B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:01 -!- blindy [~blindcode@p54803E0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:02 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 04:13 -!- nookie [~nookie@M490P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:30 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M337P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:44 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9B49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:01 < blindy> moin 10:03 < netrunner> hi blindy 10:09 < blindy> hi netrunner 10:18 < owl> moin 10:18 < owl> .oO(how to get a palm-zire working under linux?) 10:18 < blindy> moin owl 10:18 < blindy> owl: connect, press hotsync, use /dev/usb/tts/0 10:19 < owl> well, i did... and: with 2.6.6 /dev/usb/tts/0 isn't created 10:19 < blindy> do you have the necessary module loaded? 10:19 < owl> usbserial and visor 10:20 < blindy> hmm 10:20 < blindy> strange 10:20 < owl> jeps 10:20 < blindy> what does dmesg say? 10:21 < owl> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Handspring Visor / Palm OS 10:21 < owl> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clie 3.5 10:21 < owl> drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clie 5.0 10:21 < owl> usbcore: registered new driver visor 10:21 < owl> drivers/usb/serial/visor.c: USB HandSpring Visor / Palm OS driver v2.1 10:21 < blindy> then it should be there 10:22 < owl> yep. _should_ (as i also read in the docu). but why isn't it there? bug? 10:22 < blindy> no, it takes a few seconds until it is created 10:22 < owl> hmm. also after some minutes it's not created 10:24 < blindy> hmm 10:24 < blindy> strange 10:24 < owl> yeah. 10:26 < owl> i will try my luck with 2.4.26 now... and i'm really "gespannt" if it will work 10:30 < owl> SQUEEEEEEK! 10:30 < owl> eye-cancer. 10:31 < blindy> hm? 10:32 < owl> my bf booted his old winxp 10:43 < blindy> oh 10:50 < owl> yeah. and: the palm zire doesn't work with 2.4.26, too 10:50 < blindy> hmm 10:51 < owl> hm? 10:56 * netrunner thinks you're doing something wrong. 10:57 < owl> hm? and what? 10:57 < owl> (my bf is just using windows because he used it before we knew us - and wants to backup some data) 11:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-141.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:06 < blindy> shabby excuses :P 11:08 < owl> nah :p 11:11 < dsoul> owl https://snovae.in2p3.fr/ycopin/soft/zire.html 11:15 < owl> thx. but -it should work with kernels > 2.4.20 11:15 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-218.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:15 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 11:15 < dsoul> should :> 11:16 < owl> hrmpf. 11:16 < owl> do you know that it doesn't? 11:23 < dsoul> i've heard about problems 11:24 < owl> hrmhrm. k. k and i just found the places where i should have to write the stuff down - already written there. -> not well 11:35 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9B49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:00 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D437.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:06 < rxr> moin 12:08 < blindy> moin moin 12:10 < netrunne1> moin rxr 12:11 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D39D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:15 < owl> hi rxr 12:15 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M297P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 12:17 -!- nookie [~nookie@M490P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:17 < dsoul> hi rxr 12:20 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 12:20 * daja77 slaps netrunner 12:22 * netrunner ducks and kicks daja in his ... 12:23 < dsoul> :> 12:23 < daja77> your bootspalsh stuff is breaking the kernel packages .... 12:28 * blindy --> food 12:43 < blindy> back 12:44 < netrunner> daja77: how? 12:45 < daja77> seems that you use another diff for it for which there was no submaster patch 12:45 < blindy> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/48188 <-- IBM gets Patent on displaying the status of the Caps Lock key 12:45 < daja77> download/avm/bootsplash/bootsplash-3.0.7-2.4.22-vanilla.diff 12:46 < daja77> that's the one I have, and download fetches no newer one 12:46 < daja77> download/avm/bootspla 12:46 < daja77> sh/bootsplash-3.0.7-2.4.24-vanilla.diff 12:46 < daja77> that's the one it tries to apply 12:49 < netrunner> daja77: I wonder what version of the bootsplash patch you applied ... 12:50 < netrunner> daja77: it tries to apply a patch that fits the kernelversion, if it doesn't find one it takes one that is configured as backup patch. 12:51 < netrunner> daja77: my .desc downloads ..2.24-vanilla.diff and this is also the backup in the pkg_linux24_pre.conf 12:53 < daja77> could be a submaster merge error then >_< 12:54 < daja77> linux26 breaks differently 12:54 < daja77> could be uml related, though i haven't activated uml ... 12:55 < netrunner> daja77: oh, you trying my uml patch? 12:55 < daja77> I applied almost all patches from submaster, but I haven't selected uml in config 12:56 < netrunner> daja77: the uml patch is only applied when you activate it. 12:58 < netrunner> daja77: for some reason I cannot deselect the bootsplash patch here, do you have the same behaviour? 13:00 < daja77> can you make up something out of this https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-errlogs/1-linux26.err 13:00 < daja77> yep can't deselect it 13:02 < netrunner> daja77: yes, you applied an already discarded version of uml patch, that exports ARCH=um even when deselected. 13:02 < daja77> >_< 13:05 < netrunner> daja77: you can edit package/base/uml_utilities/pkg_linux24_pre.conf and move the last fi to the bottom of the file 13:05 < daja77> anyway have to create a new clean submaster repo anyway, nice to know clifford does not really use it for himself 13:37 < netrunner> wow, map24.de has a cool java applet there ... 13:39 < owl> gah. i get insane by using linux && palm 13:45 * netrunner just found that he has a hostap package ... anybody wants some 14:00 -!- tcr_ [~tcr@pD9EAA177.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:01 < daja77> owl: tried kpilot? 14:03 < owl> nope. i dont to try it, because i dont get /dev/usb/tts/0 14:03 < daja77> why 14:03 < owl> good question 14:05 < owl> it seems to register it, if i'm using the "hotsync" button and deregistering it, if the connection was closed... (or better timed out)... 14:05 < daja77> yeah that's the wy it is supposed to be 14:06 < daja77> way 14:06 < daja77> so what is the problem 14:07 < owl> owl@ancoras:~/jpilot-0.99.7$ ls -l /dev/usb 14:07 < owl> insgesamt 0 14:07 < owl> ^^ this is the problem 14:07 < daja77> nope 14:07 < owl> not? O_o 14:07 < daja77> just press sync on the app you are using after pressing hotsync on the cradle 14:09 < owl> hrm. i thought it needs an serialport??? 14:09 < nzg> moin 14:10 < owl> hi nzg 14:10 < nzg> moin owl 14:10 < daja77> owl: is it a usb cradle or not? 14:10 < owl> yes, it is 14:11 < daja77> the device is only present during the hotsync period 14:11 < owl> yeah, but it isn't... 14:12 < daja77> hoe do ypu know 14:13 < owl> if i'm doing ls -l /dev/usb/ then i don't see it, if i'm using jpilot... and jpilot says: "no such device or directory" 14:14 < daja77> after pressing hotsync? 14:14 < owl> yep 14:14 < daja77> what does dmesg say 14:15 < netrunner> daja77: scroll a bit back, she posted in the morning that it gets registered. 14:16 < daja77> k. 14:17 < netrunner> owl: you can try a `watch -n 1 ls -l /dev/usb` and then press hotsync. 14:18 < owl> aehm. doesnt work (watch) 14:19 < blindy> watch --interval=1 "ls -l /dev/usb" 14:21 < owl> thx 14:21 < owl> pi_bind: No such file or directory 14:21 < owl> pi_bind Illegal seek 14:21 < owl> Check your serial port and settings 14:21 < owl> Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND 14:21 < owl> Finished 14:21 < owl> and: all the time: 14:21 < owl> total 0 14:29 < owl> .oO(i'm glad that not just me has no clue why this crap happens) :( 14:34 < owl> <- off. bye 14:36 < netrunner> what is pottasche? 14:38 < tcr_> Asche aus'm (Ruhr)pott? 14:38 -!- tcr_ is now known as tcr 14:38 < netrunner> some ingredient for the honeycake I plan to bake now 14:38 < nzg> it's ashes from plants, and mostly contains potassium-oxide/hydroxide/carbonate 14:39 < nzg> you get it at the "reformhaus" maybe 14:39 < netrunner> so I can also use baking powerder for that. 14:39 < tcr> the german bundestag ? 14:39 < nzg> it was used to make soap in ancient times 14:39 < nzg> ;-) no tcr 14:40 < nzg> netrunner: yes, it should work, but i won't promise, you can try "Kaiser Natron" also, it should disintegrate to CO2 under heat too 14:41 < tcr> Is it baking or chemestry what you're doing? 14:41 < netrunner> nzg: the cake shall definitely not taste like sope afterwards :) 14:41 < netrunner> tcr: honeycake 14:41 < nzg> this is more similar to pottash, since baking powder is based on potassium-carbonate but contains citric-acid 14:41 < netrunner> www.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/~schaelcz/ kochfreunde/weihnachten/3/3/1181.htm 14:42 < nzg> netrunner: therefore you must use a lot of pottash and give it in cooking oil 14:43 < nzg> when the oil starts to build the first blocks, you need to throw in some potassium chloride to get more soap... 14:43 * netrunner asking the stepgranma that lives below, she might have this fancy ashes 14:45 < nzg> but don't use it to wash your car, it's not as good for your skin as you may believe 14:49 < nzg> s/car/skin 14:57 < netrunner> *rofl* https://bash.org/?338364 14:59 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-198-007.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:59 < nzg> muhahaha 15:16 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-208-232.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:16 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 16:07 -!- nookie [~nookie@M363P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:25 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M297P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:28 < mnemoc> rehi 16:30 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M218P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:33 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 16:34 < netrunner> grmbl, the bootsplash patch for 2.6 does not apply any more :/ 16:34 < mnemoc> hi netrunner 16:38 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA177.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:40 < netrunner> fascinating, a project on sf calls itself 5-production/stable and it's release is called 0.3Alpha2 16:40 -!- nookie [~nookie@M363P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:40 < nzg> hm, interesting ;-) 16:40 < nzg> did you get your pottash 16:41 < netrunner> no, used baking powder. it's in the oven now 16:48 < rxr> hi mnemoc 16:48 < mnemoc> what are you cooking? 16:49 < netrunner> argl. 'your distribution could not be verified, $program will now exit' 16:50 -!- nookie [~nookie@M321P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:50 < netrunner> mnemoc: honeycake 16:51 * netrunner 's cakes are famous here :) 16:51 < nzg> next time you can use "kaiser natron", it's also called baking soda and comes nearest to pottash 16:51 < mnemoc> sane dme a piece ;) 16:51 * nzg wants a pice 16:51 < mnemoc> send me even 16:51 < nzg> s/ic/iec 16:52 < netrunner> you all can join me at the party where I am supposed to deliver it. 16:52 < netrunner> the village is called ROTT 16:52 < netrunner> :) 16:52 < nzg> depends on how far it is 16:53 < mnemoc> it's a bit far to me 16:54 < nzg> ;-) 16:55 < nzg> beaming would be a good idea ;-) 16:55 < netrunner> this stupid ignorant programmer uses german class names .. 17:03 -!- blindy [~blindcode@p548039B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:04 < netrunner> not that I wouldn't understand it, but it feels like reading french source ... it's just uncomfortable 17:06 < mnemoc> sadly computing was made to be written in english 17:06 < mnemoc> well... they have the most limited charset. that's good for compatibility 17:09 < mnemoc> and the most limited language... 17:09 < mnemoc> .oO( dialect? )o 17:09 < netrunner> rfc: switch rocklinux to chineese, they have the moste complete charset :) 17:10 < mnemoc> :) 17:13 < rxr> mnemoc: noone forces you to use ASCII at all, just create a ASCII-less UTF16 only target ... 17:14 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M218P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:15 < mnemoc> i grow with a us keyboard.... i _can't_ use the other keys :\ 17:19 < nzg> i once saw german version of logo... that was really ugly 17:20 < nzg> "wenn a=b dann ... sonst" 17:20 < mnemoc> you see? it in our dna now 17:23 < nzg> yes, you get used to coding in english 17:23 < mnemoc> here, and i guess there too, new generations use UTF-8 chars as something natural. that's discusting 17:25 < nzg> you can't do anything against ;-) 17:25 < mnemoc> i know :( 17:38 < rxr> cu 17:39 < netrunner> it's not the getting used to code in english, more the thought 'how many would pay attention to me/my code' ;) 17:39 < nzg> i wouldn't say so, i use english closed source things i do too, although i'm obviously not native english 17:40 < nzg> cya rxr 17:40 < netrunner> c'ya rxr 17:40 < nzg> it's just you have english all around, the docs, the environment, the language 17:41 < netrunner> yeah, they're quite intrusive 17:42 < nzg> it somehow switches your brain to some other mode 17:45 * netrunner going party 17:46 < nzg> have fun netrunner 17:46 < netrunner> damn, I need a dual Xeon for the intel build work :/ 17:46 * netrunner putting his laptop on 4 cd cases for better ventilation 17:47 < nzg> yeah, would like some too 17:49 < nzg> btw, why takes it 1hour to build the kernel during Build-Target but only 10minutes if i do the job by hand? 17:51 < LowLander> ohhh cool IBM patent on caplock-status 17:52 * LowLander makes sure he goes to vote CSU tomorow, to make sure we can have patents like that in the EU too 17:54 < nzg> i don't go voting, since i'm to far away from home atm... 17:54 < mnemoc> nzg: rock builds every single module available, when you tune your kernel you don't 17:57 < mnemoc> we can't even vote that kind of stuff... we have 'agreements' which turn into law every law in many countries :\ 17:57 < nzg> hm, that may be the reason 17:58 < nzg> i never thought that this makes so much build-time... 17:58 < mnemoc> glibc take more than that 17:59 < mnemoc> and all my cpu time 17:59 < LowLander> mnemoc, well thats what the EU elections (should be) for 18:00 < LowLander> atleast they kind of stopped the patent stuff in the first round 18:00 < LowLander> and if i look at holland the leftwing got stronger (greens etc. got more votes than last time) 18:00 < nzg> glibc took just half an hour... 18:01 < nzg> i use nice to prevent a build from sucking all my cpu-power 18:02 < mnemoc> good idea 18:04 < nzg> ;-) i'm not turend on by the idea of sitting in front of my box and watching the build being unable to do anything with it 18:14 < mnemoc> i don't build on my box ;) 18:21 < nzg> i just have this one, the other one is simply tooooooooooooooo slow 18:24 < nzg> cool, just seen little cobras on tv 18:25 < nzg> they look really pretty 18:45 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBF7A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:50 -!- LowLander [erwin@p548020FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:50 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M501P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:51 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FCD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:51 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 19:04 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-137-086.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:06 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-133-146.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:06 < nzg> re 19:06 < mnemoc> re nzg 19:07 < nzg> thx mnemoc 19:08 -!- nookie [~nookie@M321P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:08 < nzg> 1.2GB are now on my disk 19:09 < nzg> i hope the rest is not too much more 19:12 < nzg> 140 MB or so to go 19:15 < nzg> this means i can start building in about 4 hours 19:15 < nzg> yeah ;-) 19:21 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4FCD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:06 -!- pppoe [~spydle@200-158-234-28.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #rocklinux 20:08 -!- pppoe [~spydle@200-158-234-28.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #rocklinux [] 21:39 < rxr> re 21:41 < dsoul> hi rxr 21:47 < nzg> hi rxr 22:03 < rxr> yeah - hi 22:16 < daja77> re 22:18 < nzg> wb daja77 22:18 < daja77> thx 22:20 < nzg> daja77: most of the stuff i didn't need seems to have not changed since my last complete download some time ago 22:20 < nzg> so it wasn't downloaded 22:21 < daja77> :D 22:22 < nzg> and i'm almost finished ;-) 22:22 < nzg> i think it is somewhat arount 60 megs remaining 22:27 < mnemoc> rehi 22:29 < daja77> hi mnemoc 22:30 < nzg> wb mnemoc 22:45 < mnemoc> hi 22:55 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CABD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:11 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D437.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:14 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:14 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:2dcd] has joined #rocklinux 23:25 < mnemoc> anyone knows the difference between .qmail and .qmail-default? 23:26 * mnemoc puzzled :\ 23:43 < mnemoc> bingo! :) 23:44 < nzg> ? 23:48 < mnemoc> ignore me ;) 23:48 < nzg> k, if you like ;-) --- Log closed Sun Jun 13 00:00:25 2004