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--- Log opened Mon Jun 28 00:00:28 2004 00:11 < hannes_> fake: a little course what to do, if things go wrong wit hthe freebsd ports collection 00:12 < hannes_> somewhere at https://www.osnews.com 00:21 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has quit ["peace yallz ;o)"] 00:21 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:21 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:21 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:23 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:34 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:35 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:37 < fake> hannes_: netunner? 00:43 < daja77> n8 00:44 < jsaw> gn8 daja77 00:44 < jsaw> hi fake 00:45 < fake> huhu jsaw 00:54 < fake> jsaw: that should not happen (!) 00:54 < jsaw> ? 00:54 < jsaw> ah, the boot thing 00:55 < fake> dietlibc linuxrc doing nothing 00:55 < jsaw> hmmm, z 00:55 < jsaw> hmm, yeah, no idea yet. 01:24 < jsaw> oh my, mine uses over 60Mb RAM to install linux24-src :( 01:31 < fake> jsaw: cdb loves mmap 01:41 -!- hannes__ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 01:41 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:44 < jsaw> fake: how do I find out the memsize (in C)? 01:50 < fake> of the current system? 01:50 < fake> overall? 01:51 < jsaw> yep 01:51 < jsaw> yep 01:51 < fake> read /proc/meminfo or use... err... mom... 01:52 -!- hannes__ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:52 < fake> sysfs is an option 01:52 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:53 < fake> no idea 01:54 < fake> sry 01:54 < jsaw> np 01:58 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 02:11 < jsaw> <- tired. cu, gn8 02:15 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p548037BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F23C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:02 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 05:53 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-137-015.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 07:31 < Lorini> moin 07:36 -!- netcrow_ [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 07:37 -!- hannes__ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 07:37 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:37 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:44 -!- fuck_you_all [~alex@4.5.84.80] has joined #rocklinux 07:48 < SMP> fuck_you_all: can you please use a less offensive nick ,.. 07:48 < fuck_you_all> SMP: It's a kick test 07:48 -!- fuck_you_all [~alex@4.5.84.80] has left #rocklinux [] 07:51 -!- alex-i [~alex@4.5.84.80] has joined #rocklinux 07:51 < alex-i> Is rock gonna be more lightweight someday? 07:54 < SMP> lightweight? 07:57 < alex-i> Yes 08:06 < SMP> what do you mean? 08:11 < alex-i> The building process at least, and overall complexity. 08:18 < valentin> moin 08:21 < valentin> alex-i: ROCK is meant to be a flexible distribution build kit, and this is not a trival goal. Anyway, i think ROCK is still very clear. 08:21 < valentin> What exactly is to complex in your opinion ? 08:44 < netrunner> moin 08:44 * netrunner thinks sources of 1,2mb is lightweight 09:21 * rxr driving home - cu 09:47 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: A-Tui 10:12 < rxr> hi 10:12 < dsoul> hi rxr :) 10:15 < rxr> hi dsoul 10:21 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D7B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:29 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C68B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:07 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-42.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:14 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-133.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:14 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 12:11 < rxr> 2.0.2 announced 12:17 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o rxr] by ChanServ 12:17 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.1 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 12:17 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Tue Jun 1 16:20:45 2004] 12:17 -!- rxr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux 2.0.2 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 12:18 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o rxr] by rxr 12:18 [Users #rocklinux] 12:18 [ alex-i] [ fake ] [ Lorini ] [ netrunne1] [ snyke ] [ valentin] 12:18 [ blindy] [ Freak ] [ luckz ] [ owl ] [ StefanG] [ Vroum ] 12:18 [ daja77] [ hannes__] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 12:18 [ dsoul ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 12:18 [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netcrow_] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 12:18 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 27 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 12:18 < dsoul> 30 minutes to refresh?:) 12:19 < rxr> hm? 12:41 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C147.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:58 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D7B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:17 < rxr> so 2.0.2 press release sent to various magazines ... 13:21 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CAF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:22 < daja77> ah nice 13:27 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C147.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:34 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-192-161.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < rxr> ok - https://symlink.ch also notified 13:40 * rxr lunch 13:41 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-043-148.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:41 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 13:44 < daja77> strange kde crash 13:44 * daja77 puzzled 13:50 * daja77 uploading pics to netrunners site 13:50 < Lorini> ui pics 13:56 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@143.Red-81-34-7.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:27 < rxr> https://symlink.ch/ 14:46 < esden> hi all 14:48 < daja77> hi esden! 14:48 < rolla> re 14:49 < daja77> hi rolla 14:51 < rolla> hi daja77 14:53 < rxr> hi rolla esden 14:53 < esden> humm ... I think I drive home now 14:53 < esden> cu guys 14:57 < jsaw> hi all 14:58 < rxr> hi jsaw 14:59 < rxr> https://www.distrowatch.com/ 15:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rolla, esden 15:08 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, alex-i, th_, kasc 15:08 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-192-161.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:08 -!- owl_ [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:08 -!- th [th@thzn.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:08 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 15:13 -!- alex-i [~alex@4.5.84.80] has joined #rocklinux 15:14 * A-Tui is away: Nada más nacer comienzan a corrompernos 15:17 -!- daja77 is now known as daja 15:18 -!- daja is now known as daja77 15:21 * A-Tui is back (gone 00:07:04) 15:21 < daja77> >_< 15:21 < A-Tui> hi daja77 15:21 < daja77> hi A-Tui 15:22 < A-Tui> i bought an imac :) 15:22 * rxr off - cu 15:22 < A-Tui> now i'm downloading rocklinux-ppc 15:22 < daja77> cool 15:23 < A-Tui> mac os x is very strange, don't allow a normal user become root 15:25 < daja77> yep 15:33 < hannes__> hi all 15:33 -!- hannes__ is now known as hannes_ 15:33 * A-Tui is away: Nada más nacer comienzan a corrompernos 15:34 < daja77> this sucks 15:34 < daja77> hi hannes_ 15:36 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CD0F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:38 < Freak> hi netrunne 15:38 < Freak> r 15:38 < Freak> is the package done? 15:44 < netrunner> what package? 15:46 < netrunner> https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/rocklinux_-_linuxtag2004-daja_small.html 15:50 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CAF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:14 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:14 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:15 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-071-179.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:16 < BoS> hi 16:53 < netrunner> damn, now I know why I have no xpdf, I have no openmotif. 16:54 -!- sopor [sopor@221-254.LlNnet.ucl.ac.be] has joined #rocklinux 17:45 < fake> gmorgenzusammen 17:45 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:49 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 17:57 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:57 < MadTux> greetings. 17:57 < fake> hi MadTux 18:01 < dsoul> hi MadTux :) 18:02 < MadTux> yo fake und dsoul. 18:06 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D532.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:11 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CD0F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:14 < netrunne1> hi fake 18:14 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 18:18 < rxr> re 18:24 < netrunner> hi rxr 18:25 < netrunner> rxr: how does one close a flyspray bug? #213 is solved in trunk now 18:25 < rxr> only the submitter and admins can do this 18:26 < netrunner> hmok 18:26 < rxr> please add closed bugs in the commit text 18:26 < rxr> * fixed bla bla (#flyspray-number) 18:26 < netrunner> I did. 18:26 < rxr> ah - ok 18:27 < rxr> closed 18:27 < rxr> any mroe? 18:27 < rxr> more egen 18:27 < netrunner> not that I knew of. 18:30 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:37 < jsaw> rxr: btw, guess you can close 125 18:38 < rxr> jsaw: thanks - done 18:39 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 18:42 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-071-179.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["leaving"] 18:46 < daja77> re 18:47 < Lorini> hi daja77 18:48 < netrunner> hi Lorini 18:48 < Lorini> huhu netrunner 18:48 < daja77> hi Lorini 18:53 < fake> hi Lorini, daja 18:53 < daja77> hi fake ;) 18:54 < Lorini> hi fake 18:54 * fake too stupid to drink coffee 18:55 < daja77> lol sue mcdonalds now 18:55 < fake> i could sue myself 18:55 < daja77> and win 18:56 < fake> that'd be hard to determine ;) 18:57 < daja77> hehe indeed 18:57 < fake> boy 18:57 < fake> there are 30 nicks here 18:58 < fake> i remember when we were only 5 or so 18:58 < netrunner> fake: maybe your finger isn't that fast on the kick button any morue ;) 18:58 < fake> i never had op 18:59 < fake> i'm an IRC noob, i would only open fuses and do other nasty stuff 18:59 < Lorini> *g* 18:59 < fake> hell, i don't even know how to change modes 19:01 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 < puzzled> hello. congrats with the 2.0.2 release 19:01 < daja77> hey puzzled 19:02 < daja77> ah that reminds me to built a 2.0.2 19:02 < puzzled> does anyone know where I can find 2.0.2 iso images for ppc (RS/6000) 19:02 < puzzled> hi daja77 19:02 < fake> puzzled: when should we have built it? 19:02 < puzzled> I read that the cd should boot on my RS6K so I am anxious to give it a try 19:03 < puzzled> fake: no idea. just read the announcement on freshmeat 19:03 -!- sopor [sopor@221-254.LlNnet.ucl.ac.be] has quit [] 19:03 < fake> puzzled: that has been posted $POST_TIME < $NEEDED_TIME_TO_BUILD ago ;D 19:03 < puzzled> right :) 19:04 < puzzled> built or not I think it is really cool that there will be iso images that will boot on my RS6K 19:05 * fake want visualisation for mp3's on directfb 19:06 * netrunner want's a cool drink 19:06 < puzzled> I can forget about that on my RS6K with its proprietary gfx card :) 19:06 < fake> coffee! 19:06 < rxr> puzzled: AFAIR the last 2.0.1 for ppc (which was build after the 2.0.1 tag ;-) already incldue this 19:07 * Lorini wants time 19:07 < rxr> puzzled: what properitary gfx card ? 19:07 < fake> *takesLorini'sClockandturnsitonehourback* ok? 19:07 < puzzled> rxr: the <something>3000 19:07 < netrunner> oh, the fstab problem seems to be in 2.0.2 19:07 < rxr> puzzled: are you sure it is not a Matrox ? 19:07 < fake> o/~ Ich Roque o/~ 19:07 < Lorini> one hour? 19:07 < rxr> puzzled: here the ppc should work on rs6k: 19:07 < rxr> https://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/rock/stable/2.0.1/desktop/ 19:08 < rxr> here is a tiny ISO to test: 19:08 < rxr> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/ppc/rs6kboot.iso 19:08 < puzzled> rxr: don't think it's a matrox. thanks. will test that little iso image first 19:08 < snyke> -lilo/Wallops- Hi all. The Apple World-Wide Developer Conference has begun, unofficial backchannel here on freenode: #wwdc .... Steve Jobs has just started his keynote, may be of interest! 19:08 < rxr> to boot enter OpenFirmware (F8 - or 8 on serial console) 19:09 < rxr> and enter "boot cdrom:,\install.bin" 19:09 < rxr> details here: 19:09 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20040607.225611.bebae2f8.html 19:09 < rxr> and here: 19:09 < fake> snyke: we all read it? 19:09 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/31579ca674dfb81b7426fd60a110d084.html 19:09 < puzzled> ok, rxr: thanks for the info. will give it a try right away 19:09 < snyke> fake: hannes said I should copy it to here 19:10 < daja77> snyke: no it is not of interest, i get spammed by apple with this crap for weeks 19:10 < snyke> daja77: YES SORRY 19:10 < rxr> keep cool you three ... 19:10 < fake> hannes_: tell snyke to dance on one leg 19:10 < fake> *g* 19:11 < snyke> idiot 19:11 < snyke> .. 19:11 -!- snyke [~snyke@nra.de] has left #rocklinux ["Verlassend"] 19:11 < fake> yes ^-^ 19:11 < MadTux> rxr: have u considered my proposal of removing Documentation/i18n/ from the src? 19:11 < fake> no frustration tolerance... 19:11 [Users #rocklinux] 19:11 [ A-Tui ] [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ th ] 19:11 [ alex-i] [ fake ] [ Lorini ] [ netcrow_ ] [ rxr ] [ togg ] 19:11 [ blindy] [ Freak ] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ valentin] 19:11 [ daja77] [ hannes_] [ MadTux ] [ owl_ ] [ StefanG] [ Vroum ] 19:11 [ dsoul ] [ jsaw ] [ mistik1] [ puzzled ] [ tfing ] 19:11 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 29 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 29 normal] 19:11 < rxr> MadTux: overread it .. 19:11 < rxr> MadTux: I can delete now if you like .. 19:12 < daja77> btw speeches of steve jobs, just look at this https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/scaring-jobs.gif 19:13 < fake> *lol* 19:13 < puzzled> heheh 19:13 < MadTux> rxr: well no one else is taking care of it, and i can't keep track of what's done so i think it would bew better to remove it 19:13 < hannes_> fake: they have some really interresting stuff 19:14 < puzzled> rxr: was it difficult to get the RS6K bootable part done? I remember you looked at it a few months back and it was a challenge 19:15 < rxr> puzzled: I just had so few spare minutes ... 19:15 < rxr> puzzled: the stuff is so undocumented - I still do not know why it does not boot automatically - the AIX CD boot automatically without user intervention - but my CDs simply do not do this - but when specified manually it works ... 19:15 < rxr> puzzled: I review this further when I have more free time ... 19:16 < rxr> puzzled: for now entering the "boot ..." is ok I think ... 19:16 < puzzled> rxr: definitely. I'm already grateful for anything that makes my RS6K boot linux from a cd :) 19:17 < rxr> puzzled: please tell me if the tiny test CD works ... ;-) 19:17 < puzzled> will do 19:17 < MadTux> rxr: so yes please remove it 19:18 < puzzled> rxr: downloading it right now and I'll burn it & give it a whirl 19:19 < rxr> jsaw: aaaarrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19:19 * fake food 19:19 < rxr> jsaw: I do not like the dietlibc patch in submaster !!! 19:19 < rxr> jsaw: around? 19:19 < fake> rxr: what's your problem? 19:19 < fake> rxr: it does _NOT_ work with MYARCH! 19:19 < fake> it's stupid to use MYARCH when crosscompiling!! 19:20 * fake getting f00d 19:20 < rxr> fake != jsaw 19:20 < fake> :P 19:20 < rxr> ROCKCFG_DIET_I_DO_NOT_ACCEPT_SO_MANY_USELESS_CONFIG_OPTIONS_TM 19:21 * netrunner agrees. 19:21 < netrunner> they might not be useless, but they are definitely to much. 19:23 < rxr> when someone needs s.th. specific *plop* a pkg_dietlibs.conf or patch in the target 19:23 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-071-179.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:23 < rxr> when s.o. wants to tune he already knows that anyway - and reading thru all this optionsl already makes my stomarch turn over 19:25 < netrunner> :) 19:26 < owl_> moin 19:26 < BoS> re 19:26 < BoS> mahlzeit 19:26 < owl_> lalala. i caught a cold. 19:27 < BoS> what 19:28 < owl_> i'm ill. in summer. booook! 19:28 < BoS> ^^ 19:28 < owl_> what? 19:29 < BoS> in sommer, yet? 19:29 < BoS> summer sry 19:29 < owl_> hmm. at least it has about 30 C here 19:29 < netrunner> this stupid .htaccess thingie does not work :( 19:30 < BoS> nice 19:30 < BoS> .htacces - stupid? 19:30 < netrunner> yes. 19:31 < BoS> whats up whit the appache file 19:32 < puzzled> rxr: the rs6kboot.iso image boots like a charm. both install and install-novideo don't work with my GX3000 gfx card (messed up screen) so I'll remove it and install through a serial cable and minicom. Any install options I need to specify so install knows I use a terminal to install? 19:33 < netrunner> it slows. but my specific problem is that it gets not evaluated. but never mind, I moved the dir away. 19:35 -!- owl_ is now known as owl 19:35 < MadTux> EULE! 19:35 < owl> hi MadTux 19:36 < MadTux> :) 19:36 < owl> MadTux: you were right with slack... at least with slack-10.0... :( 19:36 < MadTux> owl: of course i was. i'm always right. 19:36 < owl> nope. not always... 19:36 < MadTux> owl: you truely deserve better :) 19:37 < MadTux> owl: well who cares i was right on that one :) 19:37 < Lorini> hi MadTux 19:37 < owl> and - slack was nice, till i updated it... 19:37 < MadTux> hello Lorini. 19:38 < MadTux> hehe 19:40 < owl> gnarf. is the 2.4.26-kernel compilable to someone? 19:40 < rxr> puzzled: re 19:40 < rxr> puzzled: what install do you mean? the ROCK Linux installer? 19:40 < puzzled> rxr: yup 19:41 < rxr> I'm not sure 19:41 < rxr> try if just running "stone" is ok over the serial line 19:41 < rxr> if not use stone -text 19:41 < puzzled> rxr: ok 19:41 < rxr> please put a note here which one you used so I know for the next time ... 19:42 < puzzled> k 19:42 < rxr> puzzled: can you post the lspci and /proc/cpuinfo output in a querryß 19:42 < rxr> ? even 19:42 < puzzled> sure if I get to a console :) 19:42 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-071-179.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["leaving"] 19:43 < rxr> you do not have the kernel outputing the text on the serial line? 19:44 < puzzled> rxr: need to remove gfx card first which I am doing right now 19:44 < rxr> no 19:45 < rxr> console=ttyS0,9600 console=tty0 19:45 < rxr> this should work ... 19:45 < rxr> (kernel parameter for the boot prompt ...) 19:46 < rxr> puzzled: btw. do you need the boot cdrom... stuff in OF - or does your RS/6k boot the CD automatically ? 19:47 < puzzled> rxr: no auto, need to hit F8 and do boot cdrom:,\install.bin 19:52 < fake> owl: ... 19:52 < rxr> ok - does the console= thing above helps? 19:52 < fake> owl: what the hell did you mess up your system again with? ;) 19:52 < puzzled> rxr: got it booted. now where do I type stone? at the rock boot: prompt? 19:52 < fake> owl: /usr/ucb in the path again? 19:53 < owl> fake: nothin, nothing 19:53 < fake> owl: *g* 19:54 < owl> and. the /usr/ucb was one of the ssh -version *thinking* 19:54 < rxr> puzzled: what rock boot prompt do you mean? 19:55 < puzzled> rxr: the one I get after the cd has booted 19:55 < rxr> you already asnwered the 1st stage loaders questions? 19:57 < fake> /me will get loads of sushi tonight 19:58 < Lorini> sushi... 20:00 < owl> gcc-3.4.0 && linux-2.4.26 => Error2? O_o 20:01 < fake> what kind of error? 20:01 < fake> ICE, SNOW, RAIN... 20:01 < owl> sorry... currently building (with 3.3.4)... will take a time, then i will have "access to error" again 20:03 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:36 < Lorini> *sigh* 20:36 < owl> hm? 20:37 < Lorini> why is everything so complicated? 20:37 < owl> i dunno. 20:39 < fake> because it would be boring if it were too easy 20:40 < Lorini> it does not have to be easy. it should only not be so complicated 20:46 < fake> https://www.myfunlink.de/show.php?id=58 20:46 < fake> *SABBER* 20:58 < esden> huhu everyone 21:00 < esden> fake: this guy has really red eyes ... I am really asking myself why ;) 21:01 < fake> ;) 21:01 < fake> what is lsdiff? 21:01 < fake> smap relies on it 21:03 < fake> hm, patchutils > 2.27 21:07 -!- netcrow_ [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:07 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:08 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 21:11 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 21:21 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CF5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:31 * fake fixing silo 1.4.6 21:33 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D532.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:36 < fake> damn 21:36 < fake> i don't get it 21:37 < fake> if in configure.in they check for header files like 21:37 < fake> #include <includefile.h> 21:37 < fake> extern int <functionfortest>(completelywrongargumentlist) 21:37 < fake> and the compile returns an ERROR 21:38 < fake> that could be: includefile: previous declaration of `functionfortest` 21:38 < fake> then WHY the F*** does configure say it's not OK? 21:38 < fake> it can't work with just an function(int) 21:39 < fake> this is so damn stupid 21:40 < jsaw> re 21:40 < jsaw> rxr: ping 21:40 < fake> jsaw: can you shed some light on this for me? 21:40 < jsaw> on what? 21:40 < fake> my above bashing ;) 21:41 < jsaw> ah...wait 21:41 < fake> the example is llseek vs. lseek64 21:43 < jsaw> which pkg? 21:43 < hannes_> rehi 21:44 < jsaw> hi hannes_ 21:44 < hannes_> fakewhat's my v100 doing? 21:44 < fake> hannes_: waiting for a sparc64 bootcd crossbuild ;) 21:45 < hannes_> doing my soekris build right now 21:45 < fake> jsaw: e2fsprogs (see sm, patch id 2004062613131930948) 21:45 < fake> jsaw: on dietlibc enabled build 21:46 < fake> .oO( no idea why we don't build e2fsprogs with dietlibc by default, however, new in 1.35 is a --with-diet-libc switch 21:46 < fake> ) 21:47 < jsaw> see e.g. lseek64 test: 21:47 < jsaw> in bracket: [extern int lseek64(int);], 21:48 < hannes_> wenn ich/away 21:48 < fake> j0 21:48 < hannes_> sry.. 21:48 < jsaw> the next bracket (iirc) is the result if it works, 21:48 < jsaw> and there, no is given. 21:48 < fake> jsaw: the question is: why does it work in the same way with llseek, but not with lseek64? 21:49 < jsaw> probably it is defined strangely in the dietlibc unistd.h, lemma see... 21:51 < daja77> 2re 21:52 < hannes_> hi daja77 21:52 < jsaw> fake: in glibc/unistd.h, lseek64 is surrounded by "#ifdef __USE_LARGEFILE64" 21:53 < jsaw> fake: while dietlibc, it is "#if_n_def __NO_STAT64" 21:54 < jsaw> *strange* 21:54 < fake> jsaw: but it doesn't hurt if __USE... is definded for dietlibc! 21:55 < fake> jsaw: i'll see wether __NO_STAT64 is definde 21:55 < jsaw> jsaw: this ckeck is only for testing if this llseek or lseek64 is defined in unistd.h or not. nothing else. 21:56 < fake> fake: are you listening? 21:56 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C629.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:56 < fake> *g* 21:56 < hannes_> *gg* 21:56 < fake> jsaw: what do you mean? 21:57 < fake> ARGH 21:57 < fake> now it works! what did i do? 21:57 < daja77> used a spell 21:57 < jsaw> .oO(?) 21:58 * fake cries 22:00 < fake> it only fails if i define __USE_LARGEFILE64 22:01 < jsaw> .oO(and that's correct, so?) 22:01 < jsaw> ah 22:01 < fake> #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 22:01 < fake> then it breaks 22:02 < fake> without that, it works 22:02 < jsaw> stupid me, the test should define USE_LARG... 22:02 < fake> ... grepping dietlibc includes ... 22:02 < fake> nothing. 22:03 < fake> ha! 22:03 < fake> got it. 22:04 < fake> of course i have to compile the test case with sparc64-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc 22:04 < fake> which configure doesn't seem to do... 22:08 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CF5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:09 < fake> hm 22:11 < fake> this is getting on my nerves 22:11 < fake> i still don't get it 22:11 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ["scheißtag"] 22:12 < fake> in my eyes, the test should say 'yes there is a definition for this function' if the test compiel _fails_ ! 22:14 < jsaw> well, yep, would be much more clear 22:15 * fake patch-inverting yes and no and setting autogen=1 22:21 < fake> hrmpf 22:21 < fake> if i do that, the header results are correct 22:21 < fake> but they also check for lseek64 defined in libc 22:21 < fake> that fails, too 22:21 < rxr> jsaw: regarding dietlibc: please do not patch in so many options most people will neer touch 22:21 < fake> but if i cut'n'paste the code from config.log, it works. 22:22 < rxr> use sane default - and if s.th. different is needed for custom applicatoins they can tweak it 22:22 < jsaw> rxr: you can't tweak it that easily. 22:22 < jsaw> rxr: it's not a configure option you simply pass. 22:23 < rxr> either CC_WRAPPER_... -DFEATURE_XYZ might be sufficient - or patch it 22:23 < rxr> it is far too low lever to wire them all out as config options ... 22:23 < jsaw> rxr: nope, doesn't work 22:23 < jsaw> these options are not passed via command line 22:24 < jsaw> they are hard wired in this header file 22:24 < jsaw> (which is stuipd, ok..) 22:24 < jsaw> for now, I make two patches, 22:24 < rxr> but you can overwrite with -D bla bla 22:27 < jsaw> ? 22:27 < jsaw> how? 22:28 < rxr> they are #define's ? 22:28 < rxr> then just -DFEATURE_XYZ=myvalue 22:28 < jsaw> and guess what the compiler says about multiple defines... 22:28 * fake going havoc 22:29 < rxr> [-Dmacro[=defn]...] 22:29 < jsaw> or what it says if u undefine first and the define... 22:29 < jsaw> I know the -D stuff, but it really doesn't matter if you afterwards use #define unconditionally in the header file 22:30 < jsaw> try this: 22:30 < jsaw> #define TEST 22:30 < jsaw> int main() { 22:30 < jsaw> #ifdef TEST 22:30 < jsaw> printf("HELLO\n"); 22:30 < jsaw> #endif 22:30 < jsaw> } 22:30 < jsaw> compile it with gcc -DTEST test.c, gcc test.c or with gcc -UTEST test.c 22:30 < jsaw> always the same result! 22:31 < rxr> hm - ok 22:31 < jsaw> anyway, I split that patch now... 22:31 < rxr> but nevertheless I find those too ugly - if one wants to tweak then for some special embdedded s.th. just drop the patch in the target dir ... 22:32 < rxr> I think 95% of those options are "never touched" 22:33 < jsaw> right. but probably because nobody looks into the README (how to compile) and even less ever dared to look into this header file... :) 22:33 < fake> *sigh* 22:35 < fake> why does a -static ld fail in te build, but work perfectly in debug.sh? 22:35 < jsaw> because too many symbols were removed? 22:36 < rxr> no idea 22:36 < fake> it says about all symbols: undefinded reference to... 22:36 < jsaw> hmm, really looks like wrong stripping mode 22:36 < fake> pretty long list ;) 22:36 < fake> make STRIP=/bin/true ? 22:37 < fake> but why do the already-stripped .o files work with only ld in the debug.sh ? 22:38 < jsaw> now I bail out on this... 22:38 < fake> so do i 22:40 < fake> ha! 22:41 < fake> the call to LD is not in the command wrapper! 22:42 < rxr> fake: btw. do you build 64bit user-space? 22:42 < fake> rxr: yes 22:42 < fake> rxr: thus the AR, RANLIB and STRIP patches 22:43 < fake> why is a call to ld in debug.sh in the command-wrapper, but not in the build? 22:46 < fake> hm 22:47 < fake> i called gcc in debug.sh 22:47 < fake> not ld 22:47 < fake> with ld it doesn't work 22:47 < fake> with gcc it does 22:48 < fake> -lc ... 22:48 < fake> missing 22:55 < daja77> rxr: your svn server is remote exploitable ... 22:57 < jsaw> bbl 22:57 < fake> cya jsaw 22:58 < fake> ... 22:58 < fake> in e2fsprogs.conf: LD=$CC 22:58 < fake> now it works. 23:08 < fake> we need an LD wrapper... 23:16 < rxr> ... 23:16 < rxr> shit - s.th. on my server freaks up for some days: 23:17 < daja77> *ggg* 23:17 < rxr> "Stale NFS file handle" and suchs 23:17 < esden> rxr: "22:55 < daja77> rxr: your svn server is remote exploitable ..." *ggg* 23:17 < rxr> esden: yours too? 23:18 < esden> no I do not use nfs for the server data 23:18 < rxr> me neither 23:18 < esden> but I had also stale nfs file handle problems some time ago 23:18 < daja77> dunno if this is related, don't think so 23:18 < rxr> me neither 23:18 < esden> as I wanted to check out data from svn to a home directory that was nfs mounted 23:19 < esden> and then I got these errors 23:20 < rxr> you normally should not get those 23:20 < rxr> this might be reiserfs related on my side ... 23:20 < rxr> nothing to do with svn ... 23:22 < fake> ./util second.map second.aout second2.aout second.b second.b2 23:22 < fake> ./util: ./util: cannot execute binary file 23:22 < fake> arghl 23:22 < fake> silo doesn't like me 23:23 < daja77> wee 2.0.2 co complete 23:27 < fake> ../common/bin2h -l BOOT_LEN boot_loader b.out > b.h || (rm -f b.h; exit 1) 23:27 < esden> ok ... good night everyone 23:27 < fake> ../common/bin2h: cannot execute binary file 23:28 < fake> n8 esden 23:28 < fake> rxr: have you done anything about silo 1.4.6 yet? 23:30 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 23:30 < rxr> no 23:31 < fake> rxr: fine. i've almost got it finished, it really doesn't want to be cross compiled... 23:31 < fake> re Lorini! 23:31 < Lorini> re.. 23:39 < daja77> rxr: like to have genericx images for 2.0.2 when finished? 23:40 < rxr> hm - not really - HDs in the server are filled too quickyl 23:40 < daja77> ;) 23:41 < rxr> I just wanted to wait for linux-2.4.27 and push a new rock out soon - and then build full binaries for that one again 23:41 < daja77> hm maybe I try iso.rocklinux site, or just use them on my own 23:41 < daja77> ah nice 23:45 < rxr> daja77: yeah - push them as 3rd party contribution to the iso.rocklinux.de one ... 23:45 < rxr> btw, do you have the empty fstab problem with it ? 23:47 < daja77> can't telll this will be my first 2.0 build for soem weeks 23:54 * A-Tui is away: kkk 23:54 * A-Tui is away: kkkk 23:55 < daja77> could you perhpas stop that 23:58 < fake> == 06/28/04 23:58:05 =[1]=> Finished building package silo. 23:58 < fake> silo crossbuildable... wee. patch coming... 23:58 < daja77> congrats 23:58 < hannes_> fake: cool 23:59 < daja77> that reminds me of palo >_< 23:59 < daja77> anyway n8 --- Log closed Tue Jun 29 00:00:18 2004