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--- Log opened Tue Jun 29 00:00:18 2004 --- Day changed Tue Jun 29 2004 00:00 < hannes_> gnu n8 daja77 00:00 < Lorini> n8 daja 00:00 < Lorini> sleep well 00:05 < fake> patch in SM 00:34 * hannes_ taking the bus home 00:34 < hannes_> bye 00:34 < Lorini> cya hannes 00:35 < fake> there is a bug in the net-tools wake-on-lan patch 00:44 < fake> BIN_DIR instead of BINDIR 01:00 < hannes_> hehe, i found some open wlan at the bus station 01:01 < fake> *rofl* 01:01 < fake> hannes_ what was the cmd to boot from cd in OBP? 01:01 < fake> ttya io ? 01:01 < hannes_> fake: do you mean bootmode -u forth ? 01:01 < fake> no, in obp 01:02 < Lorini> hannes_: crazy guy :) 01:02 < hannes_> fake: ttya io 01:02 < hannes_> fake: and then boot cdrom 01:02 < fake> damn. then bootdisk isn't finished yet ;) 01:02 < hannes_> fake: only compiling stuff and not cheecking if it works...hmm.. 01:03 < hannes_> fake: what does the v100 say? 01:04 -!- rammi [ram@195.252.81.158] has joined #rocklinux 01:07 -!- rammi [ram@195.252.81.158] has quit [Client Quit] 01:08 < hannes_> ohhh... 01:08 < hannes_> my bus is arriving 01:08 < hannes_> c'ya later 01:16 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@143.Red-81-34-7.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ["Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!"] 01:26 -!- Lorini_ [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #RockLinux 01:26 -!- Lorini_ [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit [Client Quit] 01:42 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 01:49 < Lorini> n8 everybody 01:49 < MadTux> Lorini, 01:49 < Lorini> hm? 01:49 < MadTux> wait 01:49 < MadTux> query 02:01 < Lorini> so. again: n8 everybody 02:01 < dsoul> bye Lorini 02:01 < hannes_> n8 Lorini 02:01 < hannes_> rehi, btw 02:03 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:45 < rolla> re 03:31 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-133-162.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:31 < nzg> moin 03:46 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:49 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-133-162.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Money underrun - Disconnecting..."] 03:55 -!- alex-i [~alex@4.5.84.80] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:02 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958F89F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- blindy [~blindcode@p548037BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:02 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 04:29 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-073.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:29 < nzg> moin 05:24 -!- mistik1 [~mistik1@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 05:25 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:29 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-073.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:51 < blindy> moin 08:51 < daja77> moin blindy 08:52 < blindy> rxr: could you please svn del package/blindcoder/winex_installer? 08:52 < blindy> moin daja77 08:52 < blindy> rxr: I'm no longer subscribed to winex, it's outdated (horribly) and mkpkg makes it superfluous anyway 08:53 < dsoul> hi blindy :) 08:54 < blindy> moin dsoul 09:06 < blindy> rene and clifford bashing each other again? 09:17 * blindy ogne 09:36 < rxr> hi 09:37 < dsoul> hi rxr :) 10:21 < rxr> hi dsoul 10:24 < owl> ... 10:25 -!- owl is now known as loser 10:26 < dsoul> hi owl :) 10:28 < loser> hi dsoul 10:31 < Lorini> hi owl 10:38 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C629.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:46 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D549.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:58 < esden> morning everyone 11:01 < daja77> hi esden 11:03 < esden> hi daja77 11:03 < esden> you are alway here right? 11:04 < daja77> no i was one h away :p 11:05 < esden> lol 11:05 < Lorini> hi esden, daja 11:05 < esden> are you connected to the internet with your brain or what? ... so that you are also sleeping in the channel ;) 11:05 < daja77> rgs shit hat den quote versaut 11:05 < esden> hi Lorini 11:06 < esden> daja77: du? 11:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-54.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:06 < esden> daja77: schade ;) 11:07 < daja77> wrong window >_< 11:07 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D549.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:11 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CFFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:23 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-42.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:23 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 12:24 < togg> moin all 12:24 < togg> i try to get ldap working with rocklinux 12:24 < togg> i mean ldap logins 12:25 < togg> which is the simplest way to do this with rock? 12:30 < th> there should be some ldap plugins for pam around.. 12:33 < togg> hmm, not in rock yet? 12:33 < th> i don't know 12:33 < togg> k 12:38 < jsaw> it is 12:39 < jsaw> oh damn, i have pam_ldap installed, but it's not in trunk 12:40 < jsaw> (me fixes this now) 12:40 < togg> jsaw: would be really great :) 12:48 < jsaw> togg: 2004062912474623661 12:50 < togg> jsaw: whats this 12:50 < jsaw> submaster id: see https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004062912474623661 12:50 < daja77> submaster patch id 12:50 < togg> ah ok 12:51 < togg> its submaster and not head 12:53 < th> but it's some kind of queued for head 12:58 < togg> *compile* 13:05 < th> anyone familar with "./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: auto_config: command not found" when building busybox in stable tree? 13:10 < togg> jsaw: what i have to copy at minimum to enable pam_ldap support on login? 13:10 < togg> i want to ensure that local login still work if ldap server is not reachable 13:11 < togg> of course there is pam_ldap.so and its required libraries 13:13 < togg> atm i dont use pam and i dont really know how to change login to use pam 13:16 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D6F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:23 < jsaw> bbl 13:28 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CFFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:32 < daja77> erhm have I missed sth or are there no 2.0.2 isos on that server 13:35 < daja77> i found them, they are sorted and labeled as 2.0.1 ... 13:37 < rolla> yawn 13:38 < rolla> morning all or afternoon as the case may be 13:38 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-192-171.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < daja77> oh no, no 2.0.2 isos *sigh* 13:41 < rolla> :( 13:45 < dsoul> hi rolla :) 13:51 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-192-161.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:51 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 13:54 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-133-186.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 < nzg> moin 13:55 < dsoul> hi nzg :) 14:17 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-133-186.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:18 < rxr> blindy: submit a submaster patch for you deletion 14:18 < daja77> hi rxr 14:22 < daja77> rxr: already removed the 2.0.2 isos, or not available yet? 14:23 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-136-206.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 < nzg> remoin 14:24 < daja77> hi nzg 14:24 < nzg> moin daja 14:24 < nzg> daja77: i met the kde-dev you talked about on my prom 14:25 < daja77> on your what? 14:25 < nzg> prom = "abi ball" 14:25 < daja77> hehe 14:26 < nzg> seems to be a nice guy 14:26 < daja77> ;) 14:33 < rolla> re 14:46 < th> anyone familar with "./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: auto_config: command not found" when building busybox in stable tree? 14:51 < blindy> rxr: I'll try the next time I get a reasonable internet connection 14:51 < blindy> btw: how come that starting with stage 5 the target is reset to generic after each package? 14:58 < blindy> ... 14:58 < blindy> ok 14:58 < blindy> gone 15:04 < rxr> maybe some typo in the config stuff - and thus the config is wiped .. 15:08 < daja77> ah damn i should read your announcement mails more carefully 15:11 < daja77> oh why is this build so lame this time 15:17 < Lorini> moin 15:20 < rxr> moin Lorini 15:20 < Lorini> hi rxr :) 15:35 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CBBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:43 < blindy> rxr: hmmm I fear it's because target/lvp is a bind mount 15:53 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D6F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:03 < tfing> rxr: would an https access to svn.rocklinux-consulting.de be possible ? it would help to have access behind some proxys 16:05 < daja77> tfing: port 81 should work too 16:09 < tfing> daja77: the proxy i am behind at the moment does not like the special svn methods 16:09 < daja77> the webdav stuff? what about native svn protocol? 16:10 < tfing> it does not permit connect on port 3690 16:15 < daja77> sucks 16:16 < daja77> can you connect to port 81 without proxy? 16:18 < tfing> nope, proxy is mandatory 16:18 < daja77> you could tunnel ... 16:21 < tfing> well, i could, but maybe i am not the only one in that case 16:21 < tfing> in fact, i am not very often behind that proxy so i don't really care :) 16:22 < daja77> so complain at your site that they open svn port 16:22 < daja77> or patching the proxy 16:25 < rxr> tfing: port 81 is always active on my server 16:25 < rxr> tfing: and it is explained on the main page at svn.rocklinux-consulting.de 16:25 < rxr> but I can also put https:// on my TODO list ... 16:29 < daja77> echo "https" >> rxr-todo error: no space left on device ;) 16:29 < rxr> I deleted MaxOSX recently - I now have 8GB more space ... 16:30 < daja77> lol ;) 16:31 < tfing> port 81 does not work, and i don't really need this special https, so a very very low priority (to do within the next 20 years) will be sufficient ;) 16:33 < daja77> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 308: /etc/profile: No such file or directory 16:33 < daja77> in stage 2 ... 16:35 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D949.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:48 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CBBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:59 < rxr> tfing: I'll do 17:01 < daja77> have I already mentioned that i hate binary only driver stuff 17:11 < togg> daja77: I also hate this... example: ati drivers, intel drivers for xscale, atheros wireless lan drivers 17:15 < rxr> braodcom wlan 17:20 < daja77> sorcus drivers 17:20 < daja77> hey i even get src to build them, with one binary only module, but these $censored hardcoded the kernel version in the binary 17:25 < rxr> you could just build your new kernel with the old version ;-) 17:26 < daja77> yeah, I want _them_ to fix it ... 17:35 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, loser, nzg, th, kasc, mnemoc, dsoul 17:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nzg, kasc, th, loser, jsaw, dsoul, mnemoc 18:20 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-136-206.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Money underrun - Disconnecting..."] 18:40 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Vroum 18:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Vroum 18:44 < esden> my god ... gcc needs half an eternity to install on solaris! 18:45 < daja77> slowlartus 18:45 * daja77 showing omnipresence once more 18:45 < esden> daja77: hehe ... yes ... you are always there 18:45 < esden> and the first one to give a comment about something ;) 18:46 < esden> daja77: but that is nice ... because otherwise I would feel very lonely here ;) 18:46 < daja77> hehe ;) 18:46 < daja77> <- will be off soon 18:46 < daja77> I promise ;) 18:47 < esden> daja77: nooo pleease ... do not leave me here alone! 18:47 < esden> *sniff* 18:56 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CD04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:56 < daja77> 2.0.2 produces strange build errors 18:58 < daja77> !> Redefining some VERSION flags ... 18:58 < daja77> !> Correcting user and permissions ... 18:58 < daja77> !> chown: `root:root': invalid user 18:58 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-linux26.out -> 5-linux26.err 18:58 < rolla> ha ha ha 19:00 < daja77> args 19:04 < daja77> k. found it >_< 19:05 < mnemoc> 2.0.2a? 19:05 < mnemoc> moin ;) 19:06 < esden> daja77: what was it? 19:06 < daja77> module-init-tools were not downloaded and stuff from sysfiles, it is downloding mozilla isntead >_< 19:06 < daja77> I hoped download uses some priorities 19:07 < daja77> so that one can build lower stages while building 19:09 < mnemoc> it suppose to do that.... at least it use it 19:09 < mnemoc> _old_ download script looped over packages file which is sorted by prio 19:09 < daja77> for some reason it downloaded gnome and mozilla stuff before 19:10 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D949.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:10 < daja77> it is download script from 2.0 19:10 < mnemoc> uhm 19:10 < mnemoc> src/Download-Errors ? flagged as failed -> skiped 19:11 < daja77> there was no Download-Errors file :/ 19:12 < mnemoc> :( 19:12 < daja77> == 19:15:21 =[1]=> Building base/module-init-tools [0.9.14 2.0.2]. 19:12 < daja77> should work better now ;) 19:13 < daja77> yep finished 19:15 < daja77> !> Found shared files with other packages: 19:15 < daja77> !> etc/group: sysfiles uucp 19:15 < daja77> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-sysfiles.out -> 1-sysfiles.err 19:15 < daja77> >_< 19:22 < daja77> ok finished after rescheduling uucp *sigh* 19:25 < daja77> ok restarting from scratch, this has been too buggy 19:27 * daja77 off now 19:27 < esden> cu daja77 19:55 < netrunner> hehe, looks like wxwidgets wants to play music during compile 19:56 < dsoul> lol 20:08 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@143.Red-81-34-7.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 -!- Christian___ [~konversat@p5083997C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 < fake> re 20:15 < esden> argh ... damn boost ... this build system they have is simply braindead! 20:16 < esden> how could anyone create such an ill thing like jam >_< 20:16 < esden> hi fake 20:17 < esden> netrunner: then let it play ;) 20:17 < esden> netrunner: it is for sure for your amusement ;) 20:25 -!- Christian___ [~konversat@p5083997C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:30 < fake> hm... interesting 20:30 < fake> i started a build yesterday, x86, p3, gcc34, kernel26 only 20:30 < fake> minimal 20:31 < fake> newest tar, e2fsprogs 20:31 < netrunner> esden: use the boost package from rock :) 20:31 < fake> the only 'sorgenkind' is linux-drm 20:32 < fake> after removing the ether-wake patch from net-tools, of course 20:32 < fake> who commited that? 20:35 < esden> netrunner: hrm ... that would be a really good idea ... if rocklinux would be tested on solaris ;) 20:35 < esden> that would be rally nice if I could make ./scripts/Build-Target solaris 20:35 < esden> and then get a install package for solaris which I only need to pkgadd and then have all needed gnu tools on the system 20:36 < esden> that would be rally nice ;) 20:41 < fake> rxr: ping 20:42 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #RockLinux ["Es gibt keine Antwort. Es gab nie eine Antwort. Es wird nie eine Antwort geben. Das ist die Antwort."] 20:51 < rxr> fake: poing 20:51 < rxr> fake: when I committed etherwake patch it worked 20:52 < fake> rxr: they set BIN_DIR 20:53 < fake> while in the Makefile all other installs use BINDIR 20:53 < fake> so it creates /sbin/ether-wake 20:53 < fake> the new outside-basedir check reported it 20:53 < fake> how should we fix this? 20:53 < fake> mirror the patch on another download loc. where we can fix it? 20:54 < fake> or det BIN_DIR on the make arguments, too? 20:56 < fake> *set 21:03 -!- Christian___ [~konversat@p5083997C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:10 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-96.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 21:11 < rxr> when you wanna see s.th. ugly: 21:11 < rxr> https://gentoo-portage.com/ebuild_download.php?e=net-www/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-0.9-r1.ebuild 21:15 < fake> oh 21:15 < fake> rxr: 2004062914403905881 21:15 < fake> jsaw already fixed it 21:15 < fake> he added BASE_DIR 21:18 < fake> oh-oh... 21:19 -!- Christian___ is now known as Christian_ 21:19 < rxr> oo? 21:19 -!- Christian_ is now known as Christian__ 21:20 -!- Christian__ is now known as Christiann 21:20 < fake> why is my /ROCK/download in stage 2 chroot empty? 21:20 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-54.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:20 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 21:20 < fake> *sweat* 21:22 < rxr> at least this can not be my fault ... 21:22 < fake> tar: Unaligned block (10120 bytes) in archive 21:22 < fake> rxr: ;P 21:23 * fake re-downloading binutils... 21:23 < fake> let's hope it's not another dietlibc/tar weirdness 21:24 < fake> rxr: what do you think about using embutils for the bootdisk? 21:25 < rxr> don't know it 21:25 < fake> it's from fefe 21:26 < fake> https://www.fefe.de/embutils/ 21:27 < fake> the included tar can 'only' do gzip compression, that's what needs to be changed in the build system 21:27 < netrunner> let's rename bootdisk to fefedisk :) 21:32 < fake> DAMN 21:33 < fake> tar/dietlibc is b0rk3n 21:35 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CFD9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:39 < fake> jsaw: are you here? 21:39 < rxr> fake: sparc oder x86? 21:40 < fake> rxr: x86 bootdisk 21:40 -!- loser is now known as _NULL_ 21:40 < _NULL_> moin 21:40 < _NULL_> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! what a day! damn it! 21:41 < fake> line 633 in src/buffer.c of tar 21:45 < mnemoc> moin owl 21:45 < mnemoc> fake: i think i have seen that before 21:46 < fake> mnemoc: it may be because i optimised for athlon xp 21:47 < fake> usually i don't optimise a bootdisk so high 21:47 * fake checking 21:49 < rxr> hi mnemoc 21:50 < _NULL_> hi mnemoc , fake , rxr 21:50 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CD04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:50 < fake> https://lists.sdsc.edu/pipermail/npaci-rocks-discussion/2004-June/thread.html 21:50 < mnemoc> hi rxr 21:50 < fake> what is that? 21:50 < esden> argh ... I hate propretary shit! 21:50 < esden> everyone has to create his own build system that is totally incompatible with the common stuff like autosplat 21:51 < rxr> esden: autosplat was what? 21:51 < esden> rxr: autosplat =^ autoconf automake libtool and co. 21:52 < rxr> esden: what are you ranting about exactly? 21:52 < esden> rxr: about doxygen at the moment 21:52 < esden> they have their tmake shit ... 21:52 < esden> before I was trying (succeeded after all) to build boost 21:53 < esden> they also have their jam shit 21:53 < rxr> esden: do you want to propose that auto* is good(tm)? 21:54 < esden> no ... autosplat is crap 21:54 < esden> but it is standard 21:54 < esden> and everything that has other user interface then that is crap in my eyes 21:55 < esden> but autosplat is only crap internally 21:55 < esden> and as long as I do not look in to it it feels good ... ./configure make make install and that is it 21:55 < esden> and all software should build in that way 21:56 < esden> I do not care if behind it there is autoconf automake or anything else 21:56 * fake noting perl's Configure 21:56 < fake> or even better: mplayer! 21:56 < esden> as long the user interface is common and I do not have to read (in the worst case) html sites to learn how to build that crap 21:56 < fake> have you ever read mplayers configure script? 21:57 < fake> don't look for a configure.in 21:57 < esden> fake: ROFL 21:57 < fake> or even a Makefile.{in,am} 21:57 < fake> mplayers configure scripts should be rammed up the author's ass 21:57 < fake> sorry 21:57 < fake> *g* 21:57 < esden> hehe 21:57 < esden> ok ... I can understand you 21:58 < esden> that was very ilustrative :) 21:58 < esden> argh ... I need flex for doxygen ... *sigh* 21:59 < esden> ahh thank god there is a sun freeware packet for that ;) 22:01 < fake> arghl 22:02 < fake> esden: remember the patch-the-patch stuff on mine/cdb? 22:02 < esden> yes sure! 22:02 < esden> how could I forget that ;) 22:02 < esden> why? 22:02 < fake> i forgot to re-replace the -n1 instead of -1 patches 22:03 < fake> head -n1 instead of head - 22:03 < fake> head -n1 instead of head -1 22:03 < fake> and now i have to do it all again *cires* 22:03 < fake> *wuahaha* 22:03 < esden> ohh my goood 22:03 < esden> my condolences 22:04 < fake> i will no longer update the cdb.patch 22:04 < fake> i'll simply mail the changes to the author. *g* 22:04 < fake> so they get integrated upstream 22:08 -!- alex_ [~alex@63-231-53-211.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:08 -!- alex_ is now known as alex-i 22:08 < alex-i> Hello 22:08 < rxr> hi alex-i 22:09 < alex-i> What I meant by saying that Rock is too complex is not that it has too many features or too complex to understand. 22:10 < alex-i> I rather meant that things should be done easier with rock. 22:10 < alex-i> e.g. The building process might be simpler, for instance. 22:11 < fake> simpler than ./scripts/Build-Target ? 22:11 < esden> fake: hehe ... I think that is the best solution ;) 22:11 < alex-i> And, yes, the stable tarball releases shoulg go through a better check, so that ppl would have less trouble. 22:11 < alex-i> I meant, the building sequence. 22:11 < esden> hi alex-i 22:11 < alex-i> Stages 0, 1 require building the same tools _twice_ 22:11 < alex-i> esden: Hello 22:12 < alex-i> that seems ridiculuous! 22:12 < alex-i> What I think is the better way? That's one similar to LFS. 22:20 -!- freeed [~junix@pD95D013C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 < freeed> hi @ll 22:20 < esden> hi freeed 22:21 < freeed> hi esden 22:24 < esden> strange log4cpp seems to compile without problems with gcc 3.4 o_O 22:33 < fake> rxr: isn't it time top update linux-drm? 22:33 < fake> rxr: the current one won't compile against 2.6 22:33 < rxr> try it 22:34 < fake> j0 22:40 < SMP> I knew log4j, log4perl, log4net - now log4cpp - what's next? log4m4? ;> 22:43 < mnemoc> log2sh :) 22:43 < mnemoc> 4 22:43 < fake> o_O 22:43 < fake> log4j *shivers* 22:43 < SMP> what's wrong with log4j? 22:44 < mnemoc> the j ;) 22:46 < SMP> log4net and NAnt don't even build on Mono ATM without major hacking 22:46 < mnemoc> :( 22:47 < mnemoc> apropos log4sh, what's the command line tool to add events to syslog? 22:47 < fake> rxr: do you want me to try useless stuff so i just shut up? 22:47 < SMP> mnemoc: logger 22:47 < mnemoc> SMP: thanks :) 22:48 < SMP> the even more funny thing about log4net and NAnt is that they are cross-dependent ;-> 22:49 < esden> SMP: there is also log4r 22:49 < SMP> Ruby? 22:50 < fake> oh, and log4php 22:50 < esden> SMP: how have you guessed that? ;) 22:50 < SMP> and log4py 22:51 < _NULL_> .oO( at least there is no log4nn ..) 22:51 < SMP> but no log4tcl :) 22:51 < esden> and no log4st (small talk) 22:51 < mnemoc> log2hkl 22:52 < mnemoc> log4hkl even 22:52 < esden> mnemoc: you are fixed on converters ;) 22:52 < SMP> esden: Ruby is not the only language / environment that matches /^r/i 22:52 < mnemoc> :p 22:52 < esden> SMP: I know ... but the one I saw was for ruby 22:53 < esden> so your guess was correct 22:53 < mnemoc> lamp is another conflict, my lamp is linux+apache+mono+postgres :) 22:53 < esden> ok ... I have enough of solaris for now 22:53 < esden> now I need food 22:53 < esden> cu l8er 22:54 < _NULL_> bye esden 22:54 < mnemoc> cu esden 22:54 < SMP> mnemoc: do you know www.codeproject.com ? 22:55 < mnemoc> uhm? ... /me opening 22:56 < mnemoc> it looks preaty nice 22:57 < SMP> there's a real market for closed-source coders crawling out of their shells 23:14 < fake> root@cinema:/# stone -text 23:14 < fake> +--- 23:14 < fake> fold: `-70' option is obsolete; use `-w70' 23:39 < esden> re 23:41 < mnemoc> glibc s.th seem to not only affect tail and head 23:41 < esden> I hate police ... they always look at me in such a strange way ... as if I have done something wrong ... but I did not! 23:43 < mnemoc> maybe you look them strange before 23:44 < esden> dunno ... I look always friedly ... nice and innocent ;) 23:46 < esden> but at least the food was nice ;) 23:48 < mnemoc> you ate with a police? 23:48 < esden> no ... but afterwords I saw them on the street ... with their monster bmw in white and green --- Log closed Wed Jun 30 00:00:00 2004