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--- Log opened Sat Jul 17 00:00:13 2004 00:00 < netrunner> no such option there. 00:01 < netrunner> hm, it get's inserted for smart and bizarre only. this is also where it gets reverted. 00:02 < mnemoc> .oO( bizarre? what kind of name is that for an optimization )o 00:02 < netrunner> mnemoc: it reverts the smart one, takes Os for speed and O2 for size. you could also call it weed optimization ;) 00:03 < netrunner> this SPEED thing is for the awk script $base/misc/tools-source/smartwr.awk 00:03 < mnemoc> which is not get applied? 00:04 < netrunner> I am not that good at awk, but I suspect it should cut the -SPEED thing and the other out, but does not do so. 00:56 -!- dzafez [~dzafez@p509278BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:56 < dzafez> hi has anyone build a drock 2.0.2 ? 00:56 < dzafez> would like to download it for someones Notebook. 00:57 < dzafez> The tree seems to be so broken, I cant compile it. 00:57 < dzafez> We wanna install tomorrow anyway, so It would take to long to compile 00:59 < mnemoc> 2.0-stable tree broken? 00:59 < mnemoc> what error do you get? 01:01 < dzafez> I tried to build a extended minimal and some essential packages did not build 01:01 < dzafez> may I list them? 01:01 < mnemoc> query 01:02 < th> [bash] is it possible to run subshells in trap handling code? 01:02 < mnemoc> ./script/Create-ErrList -cfg $your_config 01:03 < mnemoc> dzafez: those are more than 'some' 01:04 < dzafez> 27 01:04 < dzafez> of 275 01:04 < dzafez> about 10 % 01:04 < dzafez> could it be because I set 2.6.7 as default kernel? 01:05 < mnemoc> can you publish the log for 1-util-linux ? 01:05 < dzafez> yes 01:05 < mnemoc> maybe 01:05 < mnemoc> very probable 01:05 < mnemoc> fake: here? 01:06 < mnemoc> th: i guess you can execute anything when trapping 01:08 < th> perhaps i should not try to handle the whole trap-code in one double quoted line 01:08 < mnemoc> dzafez: i not sure if patches to allow minimal linux2.6-only had been applied on 2.0 tree 01:09 < mnemoc> th: :D 01:12 < dzafez> https://www.dzafez.de/1-util-linux.err.gz 01:14 < mnemoc> let's see... 01:15 < mnemoc> yes, linux-2.6 damn_header_restrictions :\ 01:16 < mnemoc> is it to harmfull to you to build _both_ kernels, with 2.4 as default? 01:17 < mnemoc> i guess 2.0 tree is not ready for 2.6-only 01:17 < dzafez> hm I'd like to have this easier for users to install with 2.6 01:17 < dzafez> I'll have to go for it 01:17 < dzafez> It will be ok for my samba target 01:17 < dzafez> I guess 01:18 < mnemoc> build it with 2.4 and 2.6, but you don't have to install both ;) 01:18 < dzafez> I'll try a build over rest of the night 01:18 < dzafez> thank you for your kind help 01:18 < dzafez> ! 01:18 < dzafez> gn8 01:19 < mnemoc> good luck dzafez 02:30 < fake> netrunner: that's for smarot optimiziation 02:30 < fake> mnemoc: it is 02:31 < fake> mnemoc: minimal 2.6 based should have not too much problems. ntfsprogs, jfsutils, alsa-driver, dri, maybe 02:31 < fake> but nothing basic 03:12 -!- nookie [~nookie@M382P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:13 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 14400 seconds] 03:29 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M327P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:07 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4F8A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F782.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:07 -!- vacqum [FBI@203.131.163.67] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 04:09 -!- vacqum [FBI@203.131.163.67] has left #rocklinux [] 04:13 -!- BOS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-137.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:16 -!- BOS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-079-124.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:42 -!- De_Elsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-12-232.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 09:31 < fake> good morning. 09:48 < De_Elsasser> good morning fake 09:49 < De_Elsasser> do you know if there is a bell in irssi? 10:00 < fake> De_Elsasser: i don't use irssi... 10:01 * fake trying to figure out why sbp2 doesn't get compiled into the kernel... 10:01 < De_Elsasser> what is sbp2? 10:03 < De_Elsasser> Sound Blaster Potential 2? 10:07 < fake> no ;) 10:07 < fake> scsi block protocol? something like that, i don't know 10:07 < fake> that's the protocol used for firewire disks/cdroms 10:08 < fake> something like scsi over firewire 10:14 < netrunner> moin fake 10:14 < netrunner> fake: but it should go away when I deselect smart optimization in config, no? 10:17 < fake> netrunner: if you use, e.g. size opt, yes. 10:17 < daja77> moin 10:17 < fake> netrunner: it is passed to the cc wrapper on a per-c-file-basis 10:20 < fake> hm, sbp2 is in the disable-broken.lst 10:20 < fake> but for kernel 2.5.57 10:20 < fake> how is disable-broken parsed? is the version honored? 10:21 < daja77> iirc it means broken since 10:22 < De_Elsasser> moin daja77 10:22 < De_Elsasser> hallo netrunner 10:22 < daja77> moin De_Elsasser 10:23 < De_Elsasser> daja77: you do know, how activate the bell (or beep) in irssi? 10:23 < daja77> no 10:23 < De_Elsasser> gnargl 10:24 < fake> daja77: what a stupid idea - how do set something to 'working again' ? 10:24 < daja77> fake: dunno, if it is that way 10:25 < De_Elsasser> there is aption 'beep' in the help but what do? 10:25 < fake> daja77: there seems to be no check... 10:25 < daja77> :( 10:26 < fake> boy, that was a hard nut 10:26 < daja77> put it on todo 10:26 < fake> yep 10:27 < daja77> damn i forgot my todo points 10:30 < fake> daja77: [*] by pen and paper ;) 10:30 < fake> *buy 10:30 < daja77> I have both ... 10:34 < owl> moin 10:34 < fake> daja77: it's a nice swap space ;) 10:34 < fake> owl: moin moin 10:34 < owl> haeh? an illusion? fake awake? at 10:34 a.m.? O_o 10:34 < owl> hi fake 10:34 < fake> owl: i got up at 8 o'clock 10:34 * fake making more coffee 10:35 < owl> fake: why? what happened? O_o 10:36 < fake> owl: i need to switch uptime periods, exam on tuesday at 9:00 AM 10:36 < owl> which exam? 10:36 < fake> and that would be pretty late in the night in my normal shift 10:37 < owl> yeah. i believe that, too ;) 10:37 < fake> and i don't want to hold a presentation in the middle of the night - if it's important ;) 10:37 < fake> owl: oral final exam 10:37 < owl> *ggg* 10:37 < owl> fake: urgs. good luck! 10:37 < fake> owl: thanks 10:37 < owl> de nada 10:38 < fake> and: i've got a beamer! wee! 10:38 < owl> hehe. ;) 11:15 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M288P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:30 -!- nookie [~nookie@M382P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:40 -!- dzafez_ [~dzafez@p5092627E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:57 -!- dzafez [~dzafez@p509278BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:58 -!- dzafez_ [~dzafez@p5092627E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 13:24 -!- De_Elsasser [~eric@ANancy-110-1-12-232.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["leaving"] 13:38 < fake> boy was the livecd broken 13:40 * fake Captain Future - Feinde greifen an 14:04 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-131-141.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:04 < nzg> moin 14:13 < fake> daja77: here? 14:14 < fake> moin nzg 14:24 < th> moin 14:25 < th> still no comments on the zsh issue 14:26 < fake> th: my 2 cents" 14:26 < fake> th: in /bin should only go programs that exclusively link to libs in /lib 14:27 < fake> th: that's why libncurses is in /lib 14:27 < th> cause of bash? 14:27 < fake> th: yep. 14:27 < fake> probelsm arise if /usr is on another parition and the mount fails 14:27 < th> so bash was reason enough to move that lib... i think zsh won't be to move pcre 14:28 < th> fake: yes. the reasoning is completely clear 14:28 < fake> th: well, bash is kinda standard in rock, eh ? ;) 14:28 < th> ;> 14:28 < th> perhaps zsh should link more static 14:30 * fake watching Ali G. show 14:35 < th> fake: bash does not seem to link against libncurses? 14:36 < fake> th: may be dlopen, or indirect through libreadline ? 14:36 < th> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40035000) 14:36 < th> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40038000) 14:36 < th> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) 14:36 < th> that's all ldd gives 14:36 < th> but it may be used by dlopen 14:37 < th> libpcre.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x40035000) 14:37 < th> libcap.so.1 => /usr/lib/libcap.so.1 (0x40045000) 14:37 < th> and these are the zsh problems 14:37 < th> but strange - zsh is providing: 14:37 < th> zsh: usr/lib/zsh/4.1.1/zsh/cap.so 14:37 < th> zsh: usr/lib/zsh/4.1.1/zsh/pcre.so 14:38 < fake> th: sounds like dlopened extensions 14:38 < th> yes - but whats the relation to /usr/lib/libpcre and /usr/lib/libcap? 14:39 < th> hmmm. zsh installs huge /usr/lib/zsh and /usr/share/zsh 14:39 < th> perhaps a symlink /bin/zsh would be the best 14:41 < fake> th: well, i see no reason against that... 14:42 < th> that would solve the only problem i have with the current situation. i can't write #!/bin/zsh scripts, and passwd can't have /bin/zsh entries. 14:42 < th> well - perhaps /etc/shells should contain zsh too 14:45 < fake> th: sure *g* 14:47 < th> do we have a script to create a rock-submittable patchfile by using svn diff? 14:55 < fake> not that i know of ... 14:55 < fake> sm ;) 14:55 < th> *shiver* 14:55 < th> svn diff does not seem to support diff's -N 14:56 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-131-141.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:56 < fake> hum? it does them by default i thought 14:56 < th> fake: no. it does not mention files that are not under version control 14:57 < rxr> th: svn add before .. 14:58 < th> rxr: ahh. right. that won't touch the rep. 14:58 < th> ok. that's it 15:00 < th> so svn diff output could be ready for submission... hmm did i miss something? 15:01 < fake> hrmpf. 15:07 < hannes_> hi! 15:07 < fake> hi hannes_! 15:08 < hannes_> it's so hot today :( 15:08 < fake> ack 15:19 < th> how can i update rock-src without switching from 2.0 to 2.1? 15:19 < th> is there any mechanism besides svn update? 15:23 < th> and: wouldn't it be a good idea to have the default /usr/src/rock-src in a state that svn update works? 15:31 < netrunner> th: scripts/Update-Src 15:31 < th> netrunner: this will stay at stable tree? 15:40 < th> i don't think so 15:42 < th> rsync: failed to connect to www.rocklinux.org: Connection timed out 15:42 < th> what's up there? 15:43 < th> oh. something is up _here_ 15:50 < daja77> fake: ? 15:59 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:02 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:02 < fake> daja77: forget it. 16:03 < daja77> hm 16:05 < fake> daja77: i added '--enable-static' to alsa 16:05 < fake> daja77: so we can use the non-softmmu-qemu 16:05 < daja77> ah cool 16:05 < fake> daja77: but then it wanted artsc, and then gmodule, and that's where i stoped 16:05 < daja77> O_o 16:06 < fake> a real huge bunch of static libraries are needed 16:06 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/kraft.png ... 16:07 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit ["leaving"] 16:14 < fake> daja77: konquerer doesn't like that 16:14 < daja77> dowsn't like what 16:16 < fake> that png 16:16 < daja77> hm 16:16 -!- BOS_ [~BoS@dialin-212-144-017-161.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:17 < daja77> it does work here 16:18 < fake> 4.2 MB?? what is that? a minimal ISO? 16:19 < fake> yeah, with 900 B/s 16:19 < daja77> erhm no, i forgot that size ... 16:19 < daja77> the machine is connected via isdn 16:19 < daja77> i should reduce it 16:20 * fake cancelling wget ;) 16:21 < daja77> use kraft.jpg instead 16:21 < fake> mkay 16:22 < daja77> .oO (I destroyed the whole joke) 16:22 -!- BOS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-079-124.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:23 < fake> btw, the classic star trek eps on kabel1 are worth watching... 16:25 < mnemoc> moin 16:26 < fake> daja77: i don't have to understand that, do i? 16:26 < fake> moin mnemoc 16:26 < daja77> fake: lol 16:27 < daja77> just the way i feel atm 16:27 < fake> hm, shouldn't additional kernel arguments be passed to init ? 16:27 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has joined #rocklinux 16:27 < fake> re hannes_ 16:27 < fake> daja77: ic... 16:27 < daja77> hannes? you mean he is really here? 16:28 < daja77> cu later 16:28 < fake> daja77: just in case ;) 16:28 < fake> bye daja77 16:29 -!- togg_ [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:30 < mnemoc> bye daja77, hi fake 16:31 * fake not leaving ? 16:35 < mnemoc> who? me? 16:35 < hannes_> re 16:35 < hannes_> daja77: i am really here ;) 16:35 < mnemoc> .oO( i thought daja was leaving ) 16:36 < fake> mnemoc: but i am not ... 16:36 < fake> aaargh 16:36 < hannes_> okay... 16:36 * fake ommited the 'hi' before fake 16:37 < mnemoc> :) 16:38 < fake> <- baka 16:38 < mnemoc> ?? baka 16:38 < fake> japanese for idiot 16:38 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:38 < mnemoc> :p 16:38 < mnemoc> good to know ;) 16:38 < fake> i called me an idiot, not you! 16:53 < mnemoc> good to know _that_ nice japaneese word, baka :p 16:54 < fake> :( 16:54 < fake> :) i mean 16:54 < mnemoc> LOL 17:14 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@3ffe:bc0:8000:0:0:0:0:3909] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:30 < fake> oh baby yeah baby yeah baby yeah! 17:34 < fake> my notebook now boots the livecd - it has a firewire cdrom drive... 17:49 < fake> the damn sbp2 stuff needs some time to discover the devices 17:51 < mnemoc> kudos to fake 18:05 < fake> next step will be to figure out a sane x autoconfig... 18:06 < fake> the current vesafb one is ugly 18:20 < mnemoc> uhm... bootdisk doesn't have ifconfig :\ 18:20 < mnemoc> how is it supposed to get 2nd stage from 'network' 18:22 < fake> ip ? 18:22 < fake> ip addr add xx.xx.xx.xx/xx iface eth? 18:22 < fake> ip link set eth? up 18:23 < fake> ... etc. 18:23 < mnemoc> is iproute2 on stage1 of bootdisk? .... let me see (test machine in a different building :\) 18:24 < fake> ifconfig is intentionally not included, iproute2 *should* be included. 18:27 < mnemoc> it is 18:27 < mnemoc> ne2000 module is not :\ 18:27 < mnemoc> (only pci) 18:28 < mnemoc> uhmm... .config said it is..... 18:31 < fake> ne2k-pci 18:31 < fake> or ne ? 18:35 < mnemoc> can i find irq and crap without rebooting? 18:42 < mnemoc> i should expected to get a message from insmod but the output is only "symbol version prefix ''" 18:42 < mnemoc> No NE*000 card found at i/o = foo <-- nothing like this :( 18:43 < mnemoc> fake? 18:43 < fake> mnemoc: don't you know the settings? 18:43 < fake> lspci -> strike out the irq's listed there 18:44 < fake> io port something between 0x200 and 0x320 18:44 < mnemoc> lspci it's _not_ there 18:44 < fake> hm 18:44 < th> mnemoc: cat /proc/pci 18:44 < fake> th: ouch 18:45 < mnemoc> but, shouldn't i get a "no card found"? 18:45 < mnemoc> that's what makes me 'unconfortable' 18:45 < fake> mnemoc: no idea, haven't used isa modules for a loooong time 18:48 < mnemoc> hi th 18:49 * mnemoc getting frustrated..... 19:13 -!- nookie [~nookie@M494P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:25 < owl> hi 19:27 < mnemoc> hi owllinette 19:29 < owl> hi mnemocilein *eg* 19:29 < mnemoc> :p 19:29 < owl> mnemoc: you was a horse-rider, if i have it correct in mind, yeah? 19:30 < mnemoc> i _was_ a polo player, not jumper or stuff like that 19:30 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M288P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:31 < owl> if yes, do you know how much a horse from the neatherlands, between 14 - 16 years, did jumping till class M, and now is a horse which is ridden in a riding school... (he bites, and kicks people, and he's slashed at the foot and so) would cost in average? 19:31 < owl> hmmmmmmmmmmm. k. but you know the price of horses, i guess ;) ? 19:32 < rxr> #rocklinux -> horse-pricing 19:32 < rxr> #rocklinux -> #horse-pricing 19:32 < rxr> ,) 19:33 < owl> *g* yeah. 19:33 < rxr> owl: you own a horse? Or why do you ask? 19:33 < mnemoc> hi rxr 19:33 < rxr> mnemoc: you have been a plo player? 19:33 < rxr> polo even ? 19:33 < mnemoc> you want's to sell peru? 19:33 < owl> rxr: not yet... i'm having a reitbeteiligung on this one: https://the-null.de.vu/misc/private/tiere/Peru1.jpg 19:34 < mnemoc> rxr: when i was at school, yes 19:34 < owl> mnemoc: nope. remi. a horse from my riding school. (who is an poor horse. 20 hours in a box, 4 hours being ridden by people who kick and hurt him - not nice) 19:34 < owl> rxr: cuz i might want to buy remi... if i would be able to 19:35 < mnemoc> .oO( now i understand why he bites and kicks people )o 19:37 < owl> yeah. he was totally happy when i walked a bit with him and he was able to eat grass... 19:38 < mnemoc> owl: i have no idea.... i don't even know how much a harddrive costs currently :| 19:39 < rxr> mnemoc: interesting sports are you school over there ... 19:39 < owl> mnemoc: hm. that's not good.. but i guess about 1500 EUR should be enough i hope... 19:40 < rxr> owl: doesn't google help on horse prices? 19:40 * rxr never tried ... - so 19:41 < mnemoc> rxr: in my class almost everybody was .... non-city... er... country? .... we even played polo on _bike_ ;) 19:41 < owl> rxr: nope. not really... even some horses who are ill and have some "maengel" who will be selled to a butcher are sometimes offered for > 3000 EUR 19:44 < mnemoc> uff... expensive coutry you live at 19:44 < owl> yeah. 19:45 < owl> you're riding on papers. - aeh on the faimiliy tree... not on horses... at least it seems so, sometimes 19:46 < mnemoc> .oO( how many minutes would i survive _today_ playing polo on bike? )o 19:47 < netrunner> hm. the cksum mess is not my fault :/ 19:47 < owl> mnemoc: hehehe. yeah, you're reeeeeeally old :p 19:47 < mnemoc> netrunner, you are guiltyness 19:48 < owl> lalalala. *listening to the offspring* ;) 19:48 < mnemoc> owl, age is one thing.. that was 9 years ago, which i have passed _sit_ in front of a computer 19:49 < owl> mnemoc: hehe. try it ;P 19:49 < mnemoc> sounds interesting 19:49 < owl> hm? 19:50 < mnemoc> the idea of trying to get a young-life again 19:51 < owl> hihi. yeah. and try exessive horseback-riding again ;) and in some years teach it your children 19:52 < mnemoc> i should improve my relationship with my parents first, what can also be a good thing to do 19:53 < owl> why? what happened with them? 19:57 < netrunner> oh, I found it. (i thing) 19:57 < netrunner> it was changed before it got applied. 19:57 < mnemoc> the classic parents-child fight when i was 19 :p 19:59 < netrunner> hm, no. 19:59 < mnemoc> netrunner: your fault :) 20:00 < owl> mnemoc: *cough* *cough* *cough* 20:01 < netrunner> mnemoc: I am not sure. the file differs from what I submitted. 20:01 < netrunner> if I change the changes back, it works as expected :) 20:07 < mnemoc> :| 20:12 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:12 < true> hi 20:12 < owl> hi true 21:02 < fake> hrm... 21:02 < fake> hi true 21:11 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-107.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 21:16 < th> hmm. there is no clean way prepared to setup networking without rocknet. i'd love to have the option to switch back to old /etc/conf/network way to configure stuff 21:17 < th> if [ -f /etc/conf/network ] ; then do_it_the_old_way ; else ; do_it_the_current_way ; fi 21:18 < th> /etc/conf/network was really straight. you could understand in 10 seconds how it works. that's what i love wrt unix scripts. 21:19 < fake> th: but it was a dead end 21:19 < th> everything ends in a dead end somewhen... 21:20 < fake> th: you hit the dead end with the old /etc/conf/network as soon as you had 2 network adapters to bring up. that's not too unlikely... 21:20 < th> fake: not at all 21:20 < th> # This functions are called by /etc/init.d/network to set up and shut 21:20 < th> # down the networking stuff. In most cases its enough to change this 21:20 < th> # variables. If your setup is more complex you need to rewrite the 21:20 < th> # functions below. 21:21 < th> you could just rewrite start_net 21:21 < th> that's what i actually did when not using dhcp 21:21 < th> just some iproute2 lines. 21:21 < fake> th: that's not very polite, you have to admit ;) 21:21 < th> "polite"? 21:22 < fake> th: "the linux kernel does only support 1 processor, if you need more, just add the code." ;)) 21:23 < th> fake: at least it was very easy to find the point where to add own code to do the init 21:23 < fake> th: if you are a native shell speaker, sure. 21:24 < th> fake: we should not harden the live of native shell speakers to make rock more polite to others. 21:24 < fake> th: is it really harder? 21:24 < fake> just if you reject to let it happen.. *g* 21:24 < th> well i could add all config in /etc/init.d/network alone. 21:24 < th> but i'd prefer to config it in /etc/conf 21:25 < th> so i have to re-add the /etc/conf/network hook 21:25 < fake> th: for you it's no problem to revert it - but for non shell-speakers it's also perfectly usable now... 21:26 < fake> btw, what is the problem with rocknet? 21:26 < th> fake: i don't know how to use it to fit my needs 21:26 < th> fake: and i don't want to learn it by reading documentation 21:27 < fake> th: it's worth it ;) 21:27 < th> fake: reading small shell-scripts would be ok 21:27 < th> rubbhish 21:27 < th> ok let's go thorugh it. 21:27 < th> 3. Network Configuration 21:27 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-240.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:27 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 21:27 < th> | Unconfigured interface eth0 detected. Do you want to create an 21:27 < th> | interface section? 21:27 < th> of course. "yea" 21:27 * fake not involved with rocknet either 21:27 < th> ok. now i get a menu with 10 items. 21:28 < fake> o_O 21:28 < fake> it should ask you about dhcp or not first... 21:28 < th> i'm trying to feel like a person for that rocknet is "polite" 21:28 < th> it didn't 21:28 < th> | Network Configuration - Select an item to 21:28 < th> | change the value 21:28 < th> 4. Add new global tag 21:28 < th> this one? 21:29 < fake> you shouldn't need that! 21:29 < th> ah 21:29 < th> so something si wrong? 21:29 < th> s,si,so, 21:29 < fake> it seems so 21:29 < th> s,so,is, 21:29 < th> i just run stone 21:29 < th> current stable head 21:29 < fake> yeah, then 3 21:29 < fake> oh 21:29 < fake> no idea what rene did to stable :) 21:29 < th> yes i selected "Network Configuration" 21:30 < th> fake: do you think non-shell-speakers choose the unstable tree? 21:30 < fake> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookch11.html#x42-8900011 21:31 < fake> th: i pay no attention to the stable tree 21:31 < th> fake: so you are not paying attention to the people you want to be polite to. 21:31 < fake> th: and it wasn't _me_ that decided about rocknet - i don't even know the internals - i just can understand the pro's of the decision 21:31 * fake tries to be polite to everyone 21:34 < fake> except the exceptions, of course. 21:34 < th> ;> 21:34 < fake> ;) 21:50 < netrunner> https://www.studygs.net/genius.htm 22:15 < Lorini_> hehe 22:15 < fake> hi Lorini_ ! 22:16 < Lorini_> hi fake :) 22:16 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini 22:17 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C6E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:21 < fake> interesting. 22:21 < fake> to make i386-'optimized' binaries work in vmware you need to disable their 'acceleration'... 22:23 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:26 < rxr> fake: ? 22:27 < rxr> maybe report that bug and win a free copy? 22:30 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C654.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:31 < fake> rxr: ? 22:31 < fake> rxr: they may tell me i am note eligable for support ;)) 22:32 < fake> i have sound problems (artsd crashing) in livecd, and qemu's sound emulation is not working afaics 22:33 < fake> hrmpg 22:38 < fake> yeah, artsd dumps core 22:41 < fake> mea culpa, though 23:12 * fake just got a sick idea 23:13 < rxr> fake: intel is responding to free users 23:14 < rxr> fake: tell them this is a show stopper and you can not invest in such a broken virtualizer ... 23:16 < daja77> hehe 23:17 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 23:19 < fake> rxr: vmware != intel ? 23:23 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:43 -!- ringo [~ringo@ip51cf58c9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:49 -!- pla^net [~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-215.ewetel.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Sun Jul 18 00:00:28 2004