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--- Log opened Sun Jul 18 00:00:28 2004
00:02 < mnemoc> rehi
00:05 < ringo> hi mnemoc
00:05 < mnemoc> hi ringo 
00:06 < ringo> how are you {at this late hour} ?
00:07 < ringo> how big will a kernel and a small file filesystem with mc on it and able to mount ntfs be any ideas _
00:07 < ringo> ?
00:07 < ringo> oops sorry keybord setting in winxp not optimal ...
00:08 < ringo> I have now a watch with 128mb and want to boot rock on it :>
00:14 < mnemoc> ringo: 6pm here :p
00:17 < ringo> 6 hours earlier then here :) where are you ? I am in holland... 
00:18 < mnemoc> chile :)
00:19 < daja77> hi ringo 
00:19 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
00:19 < ringo> Chile nice country. 
00:19 < mnemoc> have you been here?
00:19 < ringo> Not (yet) ... :(
00:20 < ringo> how is life daja77 ?
00:21 < daja77> I am busy with exams atmn
00:21 < ringo> exams nice I like exams ... 
00:22 < ringo> when will you be ready with your study ?
00:22 < daja77> sigh
00:23 < ringo> I find it allways very fuitfull when you think you master something and it has been proven by some exam.
00:23 < ringo> I study way to shallow .... Mostly on own innitiative ...
00:24 < ringo> replace mostly by allways :(
00:25 < ringo> I would like to teachers in real life and let them explain stuff iso googling around the qwestion .. 
00:26 < ringo> Ok I know I am a silly guy ...
00:26 < daja77> *gg*
00:27 < ringo> pff copying 3.4 Gb takes ages ... part1 to part3 wanna have linux on this machine to compile kernel ... I want to see what happens if I boot from my watch ...
00:27 < ringo> Unfortunately it is usb 1.1 
00:37 < ringo> damn small linux seems to be able to boot only 53 Mb .
00:39 < ringo> I wanna give that one a try later it must be rock dunno why but it must be
00:39 < daja77> rxr: what have you done to rock 2.0.2 it is damn fast ;)
00:40 < mnemoc> hola
00:40 < mnemoc> oops
00:40 < mnemoc> sorry
00:41 < mnemoc> daja77: i haven't felt any difference
00:42 < ringo> where is it optimized for ?
00:42 < daja77> pentium-mmx as usual
00:42 < daja77> mnemoc: well I feel it in kde and stuff
00:42 < mnemoc> :p
00:43 < ringo> damn small linux takes ages to download ...
00:44 < mnemoc> why are you using that damn small linux?
00:44 < ringo> to boot usb watch ...
00:44 < ringo> at first ..
00:49 < ringo> but so little computing time at the moment ... 
00:55 < mnemoc> i'm trying tikipro bonnie-cvs but i'm getting some Warning: Undefined index message which don't let cookies to be set :\
00:55 < mnemoc> err
00:55 < mnemoc> sorry again
00:59 < daja77> hm winex cvs has nice compiler errors
00:59 < mnemoc> internal compiler errors? ;)
00:59 < daja77> no, looks like they forgot to include some flex header file
00:59 < mnemoc> i love those
01:00 < daja77> I look at it tomorrow
01:00 < mnemoc> :/
01:00 < mnemoc> cu
01:00 < daja77> you have to go?
01:04 < mnemoc> no
01:05 < mnemoc> i thought you were leaving
01:06 < daja77> no I just don't want to look at this crap now
01:08 < mnemoc> OT: what does it mean 'sig 8' when insmod?
01:09 < daja77> no idea
01:09 < mnemoc> :(
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01:20 < ringo> SIGFPE 8 Floating point exception (ANSI) https://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/programming/linux_pgsignals.html
01:22 < mnemoc> uhm
01:23 < mnemoc> ringo, i get that doing `insmod ne irq=3 io=0x300` on 2.0-stable bootdisk :'(
01:24 < mnemoc> .oO( bookmarked )o
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01:28 < ringo> Something with floating point dunno you compiled kernel and modules ?
01:30 < daja77> n8
01:31 < daja77> mnemoc: does it work when leaving irq option out?
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01:39 < ringo> n8 daja77
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01:43 < mnemoc> it fails with any combination of io/irq arguments 00 01 10 11
01:45 < ringo> but it signals that there is a floating point exception. 
01:45 < mnemoc> odd, isn't it?
01:47 < ringo> very weird. modules and kernel from same source .config && kernel ?
01:47 < mnemoc> absolutly
01:48 < mnemoc> as usual my bad words goes to dietlibc
01:49 < ringo> mnemoc but thats user mode and not kernel mode read something about kernels today 
01:50 < ringo> I read ... 
01:50 < ringo> yes I can ...
01:50 < mnemoc> :D
01:51 < mnemoc> i believe ne2000 isa driver on last 2.4 shall be stable, that's we i don't blame kernel about it
01:52 < ringo> Is there not another driver ne2ktoo or something dunno just a brainwave from me
01:54 < mnemoc> on default (rock's) .config only ne.o and ne2k-pci are available but i can check if there is something nicer to enable
01:54 < mnemoc> .oO( or you mean third party module? )o
01:55 < ringo> nooo you got isa ... my fault ... 
01:56 < ringo> working under xp at the moment ... cant peek sry 
01:57 < ringo> must install wlan on other comp THat will be fun ... 
01:57 < mnemoc> i'm rebuilding bootdisk with bigger initrd and less striping just to... do something :(
02:00 < ringo> I am waiting for my small iso then ringo->regenerate :)
02:01 < ringo> dl takes ages
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02:23 < rolla_> re
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02:42 < rolla> anyone around?
02:54 < owl> yeah. here!
03:12 < true> < too ;)
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03:14 < owl> *g* 
03:24 < rxr> n8
03:26 < owl> gn8 rxr 
03:27 < rxr> n8 owl
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09:58 < blindy> moin
10:00 < dsoul> hi blindy 
10:00 < blindy> 3DGrGreetings from TXL
10:01 < dsoul> :P
10:01 < blindy> grmpf
10:30 < owl> moin
10:31 < owl> txl
10:31 < dsoul> hi owl 
10:32 < owl> ?
10:32 < owl> hi
10:32 < owl> dsoul: 
10:32 < owl> sorry, i'm still 95 % sleepöng
10:32 < owl> aeh. sleeping even
10:33 < blindy> moin owl
10:33 < owl> hi blindy :)
10:33 < blindy> Greeting from TXL
10:33 < owl> txl?? 
10:33 < blindy> Berlin Tegel
10:33 < owl> aehm. ok. then my guess was right... but - what the hell are you doing there?
10:35 < blindy> surfing
10:36 < owl> *lol*
10:36 < owl> for free?
10:38 < blindy> no :(
10:40 < owl> shit
11:08 < th> moin
11:11 < dsoul> hi th 
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11:33 < owl> hi th 
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11:35 < De_Elsasser> heidi heida
11:39 < dsoul> hi De_Elsasser 
11:47  * blindy gone
11:47 < owl> bye blindy 
12:03 < De_Elsasser> hi dsoul
12:03 < owl> hi De_Elsasser 
12:03 < De_Elsasser> hallo owl
12:04 < De_Elsasser> at work on a suny sunday?
12:05 < owl> <- never at work
12:06 < De_Elsasser> owl: woua, that is cool
12:06 < owl> De_Elsasser: why? i'm ill since about december
12:07 < De_Elsasser> oh, sorry
12:09 < De_Elsasser> me I am since oktober, "hemiplegie" (don't know how it is in english)
12:21 < owl> you're working at home?
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14:12 < De_Elsasser> owl: I was eating :-]
14:13 < De_Elsasser> I don't work...
14:13 < owl> De_Elsasser: hm. k. 
14:42 < De_Elsasser> q
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14:59 < daja77> ah sure, a recent winex needs an ancient flex, d'oh
15:18 < fake> blindy: there is free wireless access in the sony center... ?
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15:20 < De_Elsasser> re
15:22 < fake> n
15:22 < fake> srgh
15:22 < fake> moin, btw
15:25 < De_Elsasser> moin fake
15:37 < true> hi fake 
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16:08 < fake> livecd now has on-boot vidmode selection ;)
16:15 < netrunner> arg, why does $srctar contain auto?
16:19 < netrunner> ah, xsrctar, found it :)
16:37 < fake> return -ETOOHOT;
16:39 < daja77> hehe
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18:01 < De_Elsasser> daja77: hoho
18:09 < daja77> hi De_Elsasser 
18:09 < daja77> <- off now
18:10 < De_Elsasser> daja77: are here?
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19:30 < _NULL_> hi
19:37  * _NULL_ np: slayer - bloodline *grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
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22:43 < netrunne1> hm, have I never submitted imgv??
22:47 < netrunne1> hm2, our build scripts don't handle zip'ed files.
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23:24 < k0s> anyone want to answer a stupid question (hopefully without a stupid answer)?
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23:27 < k0s> got cut off there...anyone want to answer a GRUB question?
23:31 < th> ack
23:33 < k0s> ack yes or ack no?
23:33 < k0s> tried to install ROCK and use an existing (old) GRUB setup...it starts to boot the kernel but panics when trying to load the roo filesystem
23:35 < rxr> you need to pass:
23:36 < rxr> root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/partX or equivalent to it
23:37 < k0s> rxr: for second disk all this is the same except for host1 instead of host0 ?
23:37 < rxr> no
23:37 < rxr> host1 would be the second ide controler
23:37 < rxr> 2nd disk as slave is:
23:38 < rxr> root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/partX or
23:38 < rxr> 2nd disk as master on secondary channel is:
23:38 < rxr> root=/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/partX or
23:38 < th> .oO(perhaps he is talking about scsi ;) )
23:38 < rxr> for scsi substitute ide with scsi ;-)
23:39 < k0s> th: nope, 2nd ide disk
23:39 < rxr> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse21.html
23:39 < rxr> k0s: as you see - it depends where the disk is plugged
23:39 < rxr> devfs also has the nice /dev/discs/discX/partY symlinks - but they are not present that early in the boot process anymore
23:40 < rxr> got riped in 2.4.19 or so or was it .21 ...
23:40 < k0s> hmmm...anyway to tell from a non-devfs linux?
23:40 < k0s> w/o opening up the case ;)
23:40 < k0s> yes, I'm lazy
23:43 < rxr> orhm
23:43 < rxr> what /dev/ is it
23:43 < rxr> hdb is slave on first channel
23:43 < k0s> /dev/hdb4
23:43 < rxr> hdc master on 2nd channel
23:43 < rxr> so:
23:44 < k0s> so target1/lun0/part3
23:44 < k0s> ?
23:44 < rxr> yesno - part4
23:44 < rxr> if I'm not totally confused now ...
23:44 < k0s> ?  I thought the devfs stuff started at 0, not ?
23:45 < k0s> not 1, I meant to say?
23:45 < th> .oO(in fact that is not a grub issue... it's a general i don't know my discs issue.)
23:45 < th> k0s: not for partitions
23:46 < k0s> th: how weird...I'll try it...just wish I didn't take so long to reboot :(
23:47 < th> i'd boot a rescue system and look for my discs
23:47 < th> a devfs rescue system of course
23:47 < k0s> th: in otherwords ROCK ;)
23:47 < th> k0s: not necessarilly
23:48 < k0s> duh...I'm an idiot...just looked at /etc/fstab in the ROCK partition...says it loud and clear
23:48 < k0s> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part4
23:48 < th> rootfs?
23:48 < k0s> yep
23:48 < th> rxr: rootfs gets into fstab?
23:49 < rxr> sure ..
23:49 < k0s> time to reboot and hope for the best...thanks for the help!  
23:49 < th> rxr: what is that good for?
23:49 < k0s> maybe you'll see me in a bit if the reboot goes well
23:49 < th> rxr: except for helping k0s to find it's roots
23:50 < k0s> oh, one more question, do I need to add that root=LABEL=<stuff> nonsense, or just root=<stuff>
23:50 < th> LABEL?
23:51 < th> you shouldn't need this
23:51 < k0s> th: seems to be a BS variable used by RH and other distros for /etc/fstab and a few other places...by your reaction, I'll guess no
23:52 < k0s> k, thanks again..."see you on the flipside", as they said in the 70s
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23:52 < rxr> th: specifing flags and such?
23:52 < th> rxr: /dev/root is enough for that
23:53 < th> rxr: all my rocks run this way
23:53 < th> even the recent ones
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--- Log closed Mon Jul 19 00:00:42 2004