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[04:03] Nick change: blindy_ -> blindy [04:22] <fake> Togg: are you still here? [07:54] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-214.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:21] <Togg> moin @all [08:22] <Togg> sorry fake I am working so I cant play with * till 4 o'clock :) [08:26] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-1-173.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:54] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [08:54] <madtux> yo [09:06] <blindy> moin [09:32] <madtux> blindy boy! [09:33] <madtux> happy late birthday my friend [09:33] <madtux> hope u got my mail on the 21st [09:34] <blindy> madtux: hi! happy late birthday to you, too! [09:34] <blindy> yeah I got it, but couldn't reply [09:34] <blindy> more than busy with moving from Ingolstadt to Berlin [09:36] <madtux> blindy, thats fine.. i wasn;t expecting a reply anyways :) [09:36] <madtux> brb [09:39] <blindy> today the carpet fitters will do their job (in ~1h) and Saturday evening I'm flying back to Ingolstadt to dismantle my old room and move it to Berlin [09:50] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-214.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:51] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-214.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:01] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) left irc: "Leaving" [10:04] Action: blindy gone [10:11] bluefire (bluefire@p54852C05.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:23] Nick change: BoS -> Bos|weg [10:23] Bos|weg (~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-214.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:28] <clifford> Aaaaaarg! Fucking wondershaper! [10:28] <daja77> hm? [10:29] <clifford> I've started wondershaper on my box at home over xDSL, and now it's GONE !! [10:30] <daja77> wtf is wondershaper? [10:38] <clifford> it's a quick&dirty tc (QoS) script. [10:38] <clifford> my check-network cron job has just removed all that crap and restarted my internet connection - good. [10:39] Action: clifford likes self-repairing systems. ;-) [10:39] <daja77> vtw hi clifford :) [10:39] <daja77> sigh too less coffee to type [10:39] <clifford> hi daja, btw. ;-) [10:49] Action: daja77 copying 2.1 download dir to his build machine atm [11:27] bluefire (bluefire@p54852C05.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:09] <Togg> daja77: youre going to build an arm cross target? :) [12:58] <daja77> not yet, sorry I felt asleep before i copied the download dir to that machine [12:59] <daja77> but can start in some minutes [13:08] <Togg> would be cool to share the problems :) [13:08] <th> anyone able to introduce me to /etc/rc.d/rcX.d? [13:09] <th> i really dislike some stone mods :-/ [13:10] <th> the functions in there are too much bonded to gui [13:20] <daja77> Togg: what was that config name again? [13:23] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAACEB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:30] <daja77> Togg: ping [13:39] <Togg> ping [13:39] <Togg> sorry i was working [13:39] <Togg> arm*b*-linux* [13:39] <Togg> e.g. armeb-linux [13:40] <daja77> yeah, which cpu optimization and architecture did you use [13:40] <Togg> generic arm cpu [13:40] <Togg> arch = arm [13:40] <Togg> big endian [13:41] <daja77> there is an additional field for architecture ... [13:42] <Togg> i look [13:42] <Togg> generic [13:43] <daja77> ok [13:43] <Togg> i think this is easier [13:43] <Togg> in fact i want to build for cpu=xscale which has march=armv5te [13:43] <daja77> you patch is for glibc-2.3.2, trunk uses glibc-2.3.4-CVS [13:43] <Togg> it works either [13:43] <Togg> without it i got the error [13:44] <daja77> i could set the variables to xscale then [13:44] <daja77> just updating kernel to 2.6.8.1 before [13:46] <Togg> as u like [13:46] <Togg> kernel 2.6.8.1 has integraded arm/ixp425 support [13:46] <Togg> for 2.4.x kernels u needed uclinux patches [13:46] <Togg> but kernel is not the problem I think :) [13:48] <daja77> will use 2.6 kernel and 2.4 headers as i did for hppa crossbuild :) [13:48] <daja77> started [13:49] <Togg> that works? [13:49] <Togg> i thought applications crash if they are compiled against 2.4 headers and u use 2.6 kernel [13:49] <daja77> it should, 2.6 headers brake some packages [13:50] <Togg> oh no, in fact u use glibc headers for applications mostly [13:50] <Togg> i think [14:06] <daja77> Togg: your gcc patch fails [14:34] link_ (~link_@adsl.xan.ch) joined #rocklinux. [14:37] <Togg> puh [14:37] <Togg> dunno [14:37] <Togg> it should be not much which rejects [14:39] kraftwerk (~alex@fire1.4synergy.com) joined #rocklinux. [14:39] <kraftwerk> hi [14:42] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAACEB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] clifford (~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) left #rocklinux ("Client exiting"). [14:48] clifford (~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [15:02] <daja77> Togg: i removed your patch and gcc built fine ... [15:03] <daja77> Togg: if that was an official fix, we might already have it [15:07] link_ (~link_@adsl.xan.ch) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:09] <Togg> hmm the patch for gcc was for building big-endian target [15:09] <Togg> big-endian crosscompiler [15:09] <daja77> it does not apply, and gcc built anyway [15:09] <Togg> ok [15:09] <Togg> I think u'll get an error like "architecture mismatch" later, cause some is big-endian and some little-endian [15:11] <daja77> we'll see, building 1-glibc atm [15:28] <fake> Togg: the eb thing is already implemented in mips [15:30] <fake> Togg: if you have some spare ARM hardware, ARM support could be much better... ;) [15:33] <Togg> fake: how u mean this? i should buy another hardwarE? [15:33] <fake> Togg: no [15:34] <fake> Togg: i mean, if you could do regular test builds on ARM hardware (or for arm hardware) the support would be much better [15:34] <fake> no-one is doing arm right now [15:34] <Togg> i think a generic arm target will also run on my xscale [15:34] <Togg> arm is great [15:34] <Togg> :) [15:35] <fake> agreed, but i only own an ipod [15:35] <Togg> where do you know, nobody uses arm [15:35] <Togg> i too [15:35] <Togg> u do ipod linux? [15:35] <fake> fpu not supported, mmu not supported... [15:36] <Togg> on ipod, yes till now its not much supported, even second cpu is not working [15:36] <fake> unfortunately, yes. [15:36] <Togg> its enough for mp3 128kbit [15:36] <fake> but firewire works *g* [16:03] kraftwerk (~alex@fire1.4synergy.com) left irc: "segmentation fault" [16:25] <daja77> th: ping [16:58] <daja77> Togg: ? [17:10] rolla (maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) got netsplit. [17:10] th (th@thzn.de) got netsplit. [17:10] jsaw (~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de) got netsplit. [17:12] rolla (maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) returned to #rocklinux. [17:12] th (th@thzn.de) returned to #rocklinux. [17:12] jsaw (~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de) returned to #rocklinux. [17:54] <Togg> daja77: yes? [17:54] <daja77> 1-glibc fails ... [17:55] <Togg> which err? [17:55] <daja77> 80.1816722333/glibc-2.3.4-2004-05-01/objdir/misc/ioperm.o.dt [17:55] <daja77> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c: In function `init_iosys': [17:55] <daja77> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/ioperm.c:103: error: `BUS_ISA' undeclared (first use in this function) [17:55] <Togg> ok the BUS_ISA patch was easy [17:56] <daja77> ? [17:56] <daja77> there was none regarding this on that page [17:56] <Togg> i think it has to be patched in the kernel include [17:56] <daja77> got a patch file somewhere? [17:57] <Togg> https://www.kegel.com/crosstool/current/patches/glibc-2.3.2/maybe/arm-ioperm.patch [17:57] <Togg> kegel.com/crosstool has different patches for cross-compile [17:57] <fake> douh [17:58] <Togg> fake: what u mean? [17:58] treo (~xfman@D80a4.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:58] <treo> hi [17:58] <daja77> so not using the first patch you mentioned? [17:59] <Togg> its also from kegel.com [18:00] <Togg> the http patch tree is not up-to-date, the latest tarball has all new patches [18:00] <fake> i would not assume patches to glibc-2.3.2 (which is years old) apply to 2.3.4 (and if they apply, if they make sense) [18:00] <Togg> it is still needed [18:01] <Togg> and its just a very small include patch [18:01] <fake> glibc cvsweb is your friend... maybe it got fixed after 2004-05-01 [18:01] <Togg> :) [18:01] <daja77> fake: glibc cvsweb is your enemy [18:01] <Togg> the thing is I just want to get a arm compiler to build [18:02] <Togg> so i can compile natively on the platform [18:02] <Togg> with rocklinux [18:02] <Togg> with nbd-swap and such things :) [18:02] <fake> Togg: do you use gcc-3.4 ? [18:02] <Togg> yep [18:02] <Togg> 3.4.1 [18:02] tfing_ (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-4-45.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [18:02] <fake> good ;) [18:02] <Togg> I think the way rocklinux handles cross-compiling for arm is not yet ok [18:03] <daja77> fake: or have you found useful information on it? [18:05] treo (~xfman@D80a4.d.pppool.de) left #rocklinux ("und wech ..."). [18:07] <fake> Togg: why? [18:07] <fake> daja77: nothing specific to arm, but some problems were solved for sparc and mips... [18:08] <mnemoc_> moin [18:08] <Togg> fake: e.g. if i activate big-endian, i think it is not enabled correctly [18:08] <Togg> moin mnemoc [18:09] <daja77> hi mnemoc_ [18:09] <fake> Togg: as i said, have a look at architecture/mips/archtest.sh [18:10] <mnemoc_> hi Togg, fake and daja [18:10] <fake> hi mnemoc_ ! [18:10] tfing (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-91.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:10] Nick change: tfing_ -> tfing [18:10] <fake> (on mips, no 'el' means big endian) [18:11] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAAAB1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:19] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [18:23] <Togg> fake: for arm, i think, u need the eb [18:24] <fake> Togg: it's no problem to add it... [18:37] <mnemoc> i love to see quick-reply-discussions on the ML again! [18:38] <daja77> wow [18:38] <daja77> .4.1/../../../../arm-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: BFD 2.15.91.0.2 20040727 internal error, aborting at elflink.c line 9345 in _bfd_elf_section_a [18:38] <daja77> lready_linked [18:38] <daja77> /scratch/rock-daja/build/armeb-linux-2.1.0-DEV-arm-EB-xscale-cross-generic-expert/ROCK/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc/arm-unknown-linux-gnu/3 [18:38] <daja77> .4.1/../../../../arm-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: Please report this bug. [18:39] <daja77> Togg: have ever had this? [19:39] Action: netrunner recovering a bit. just created 2 new packages :) [19:40] <Ragnar0k> ;) [19:40] <netrunner> this damn headache :/ [19:40] Action: Ragnar0k comforts netrunner [19:45] <daja77> 2? :) /me polishing kde update :) [19:46] <netrunner> scripts/Create-CksumPatch a b | patch -p0 just moved the patched a.desc to b.desc :( [19:47] <daja77> O_o [20:10] <fake> interesting [20:10] <fake> 'googlen' is now an official german word [20:10] <daja77> yep [20:10] <fake> as well as 'triggern' [20:10] <daja77> and i guess google does not like it [20:11] <fake> who cares? [20:11] <fake> ;) [20:11] <daja77> erhn /me not, just wanted to mention ... [20:17] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8D340.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [20:19] <Togg> daja77: i didnt had such error [20:19] <daja77> d'oh [20:20] <Togg> which package? [20:20] <Togg> binutils? [20:20] <daja77> ld is from binutils, yep [20:20] <Togg> i mean on which package it fails? [20:20] <daja77> but it failed on glibc [20:21] <Togg> 1-glibc? hmm [20:21] <daja77> yep [20:21] <Togg> too bad [20:21] <daja77> indeed [20:24] <Togg> you can try another binutils maybe [20:25] TxD (~kvirc@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de) joined #rocklinux. [20:25] <TxD> moin [20:28] <daja77> not atm [20:28] <TxD> atm ? [20:31] <daja77> at the moment [20:32] <Togg> btw: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATM [20:37] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8CBFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:41] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [20:43] Action: daja77 dicing out cksums ^^ [20:47] <fake> hehe [20:47] <fake> 1 x W1000000000 [20:48] <daja77> scripts/Create-CksumPatch -repository is funny to watch ;) [20:58] TxD (~kvirc@mab-host-38-103.mab.km3.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:59] <fake> hrmpf [20:59] <fake> if i create variables like, say, ROCKCFG_BLAFASEL_$something [20:59] <fake> how can i access it using $something? [21:00] <fake> $ROCKCFG_BLAFASEL_$something has the value of $something [21:06] <daja77> wooohooo my patch needs four votes ;) [21:16] <daja77> th: ? [21:21] <mnemoc> re [21:22] <daja77> wb [21:22] <mnemoc> fake: $( eval echo \$ROCKCFG_BLAFASEL_$something ) [21:22] <mnemoc> thanks :p [21:24] Freak (freak@helena.bawue.de) left irc: Excess Flood [21:24] Freak (freak@helena.bawue.de) joined #rocklinux. [21:30] <fake> menmoc: kuhl [21:30] <fake> mnemoc that is... [21:34] <mnemoc> you are not the first to try to do that ,) [21:43] pla^net (~sack@dynadsl-080-228-95-124.ewetel.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:43] Nick change: pla^net -> tenX [21:45] Nick change: tenX -> eV1L [21:47] Nick change: eV1L -> pla^net [22:01] <daja77> >_< [22:19] kraftwerk (~alex@212-41-89-196.adsl.solnet.ch) joined #rocklinux. [22:20] <kraftwerk> hm my boot partition is too small (8 mb) [22:20] <daja77> erhm yes [22:20] <kraftwerk> which program/library does need so much place? [22:21] <kraftwerk> on /boot? [22:21] <daja77> the two kernels perhaps? [22:21] <kraftwerk> hm... [22:21] <mnemoc> System.map? [22:21] <kraftwerk> i would like to have the 2.6 [22:21] <kraftwerk> do i need the 2.4? before compiling a 2.6? [22:22] <daja77> dunno if you need it, but why having a seperate boot partition anyway? [22:22] <kraftwerk> hm [22:22] <kraftwerk> can i make / bootable [22:22] <kraftwerk> ? [22:23] <mnemoc> sure [22:23] <daja77> why not [22:23] <kraftwerk> ok [22:24] <fake> boot partitions are an ancient leftover of a bios limitation [22:27] <daja77> and lilo limitations [22:28] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EBAB0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:28] <nzg> moin [22:28] <Ragnar0k> moin [22:29] <fake> daja77: the lilo limitation was dictated by the bios ;) [22:30] Action: mnemoc loves lilo [22:30] <fake> o_O [22:33] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EBAB0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [22:40] <mnemoc> really, i prefer it over grub :) [22:41] <fake> how comes? [22:41] <tcr> I didn't ever get used to the naming of it [22:42] <mnemoc> same do i.. i don't feel confortable with grub's aproach and naming [22:43] <mnemoc> lilo is _very_ simple and i does everything i want it for [22:46] <fake> hm, i like the ability to edit my boot parameters if needed [22:46] <fake> that was my reason to switch to grub [22:48] <mnemoc> append=""? [22:48] <fake> no [22:48] <fake> like [22:48] <fake> 'oh damn, i mistyped the kernel filename, let's see if i have one lying around somewhere else...' [22:48] <mnemoc> just don't mistype the kernel filename :p [22:50] <mnemoc> some 'nice guy' deletes every page on mozilla's calendar page (wiki) [22:51] <fake> i'm very good at mistyping stuff! [22:52] <fake> don't make me stop doing the only thing i'm proud of! [22:52] <fake> ;) [22:52] <mnemoc> =) [22:52] <fake> </woman> [22:53] <fake> this pkgenable/pkgfork drives me crazy [22:54] <daja77> guess i'll watch fear and loathing in las vegas again ;) [22:55] <daja77> now [22:55] <daja77> cu [22:55] <mnemoc> cu daja77 [22:56] <fake> have fun! [22:56] <daja77> perhaps i understand it a bit more this time :) [22:58] <fake> *g* [22:58] <mnemoc> he [22:59] <fake> == 20:37:23 =[0]=> Building base/binutils=binutils-cross-sparc64 [2.15.91.0.2 2.1.0-DEV]. [22:59] <fake> SEXY! [23:02] <mnemoc> i'll go [23:02] <mnemoc> cu :) good luck fake [23:02] <fake> ciao! [23:39] <th> Please use a combination of upper and lower case letters and numbers. 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