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[04:17] <sparc-kly> hi [04:19] blindcoder (~blindcode@p50801EE1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] kasc_ (~kasc@dsl-082-083-046-134.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:24] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-043-148.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:24] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [07:59] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [08:00] <blindcoder> moin [08:00] <dsoul> hi blindcoder [08:17] <netrunner> moin [08:18] <dsoul> hi netrunner [08:26] almostlucky (~almostluc@c-24-126-193-110.we.client2.attbi.com) joined #rocklinux. [08:30] almostlucky (~almostluc@c-24-126-193-110.we.client2.attbi.com) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [09:24] Action: netrunner @work painting his gf lots of 'learn!' windows on her computer @home ;) [09:28] <Togg> moin :) [09:28] <Togg> netrunner: what are u doing ???? [10:00] <netrunner> Togg: I looged into my gf's pc @home and connected some windows with the message to her X server. I suspected her to surf the internet instead of learning ;) [10:01] <Togg> isnt that espionage ;) [10:02] <netrunner> no, I cannot see what is on her screen. I just write stuff there. [10:02] <Togg> ah ok [10:02] <netrunner> well, I could read squid logs and so on, but I don't do that kind of stuff. [10:04] <netrunner> could it be that 2.6.8.1 is missing modpost? [10:13] <netrunner> hm, or better, that it does not build it? [10:17] <netrunner> ah, hm... the kernel source is virgin ... so it is not compiled there. [10:18] <netrunner> hm, it does not really make sense to build linux-drm against the kernel source ... [10:46] [anders] (~snafu@blueice4n1.uk.ibm.com) joined #rocklinux. [10:56] <daja77> lol netrunner [10:59] <netrunner> damn. I cannot remember which address I am subscribed to rlml with. now trying all ;) [10:59] <daja77> i could have a look [11:09] <netrunner> hm, a # would work as split seperator ... [11:11] <netrunner> alsa-driver is a 2.4 only package, no? [11:12] <esden> hi all [11:12] <esden> ping blindcoder [11:12] <daja77> hi esden [11:13] <daja77> <- uni [11:13] <netrunner> hi esdi [11:13] <esden> hi daja77, netrunner [11:16] <esden> humm ... I hape blindcoder will awake ;) [11:27] <netrunner> argl. I replaced the : in all .tar.bz2 with #, now I cannot change it back :/ [11:29] <netrunner> ah, using sed does the trick [11:31] <esden> netrunner: using sed solves maaaaany problems ;) [11:37] <netrunner> sed -i purse -e 's,empty,full' [11:40] <esden> then it is full ... but with what? bits and bytes ... or sand ... or stones? [11:41] <netrunner> esden: it defaults to the primary datatype [11:41] <esden> aha ... good to know ... in your case that are probably bills ;) [11:41] <esden> then you have a purse full of bills ... nice ;) [11:49] <netrunner> gngngn. yet another bug :( [11:52] <netrunner> what do you expect $( ls ../../pkgs/*.tar.bz2 | tr . / | cut -f8 -d/ ) to give for rock-src-2.1.0-DEV.tar.bz2 ? [11:55] <netrunner> I don't get the sense of this line anyway. it magicks around the filename, just removing stuff that gets added again in the next line. [11:56] <netrunner> target/{livecd,bootdisk}/build_stage2.sh if you wondered. [11:56] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAAF5B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:09] <blindcoder> moin [12:09] <blindcoder> anyone here who can recommend a good FM application? [12:10] <netrunner> frequency modulation? [12:10] <blindcoder> yes [12:11] <blindcoder> I finally have found a working USB TV-Tuner and it comes with built-in FM radio [12:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: how does it bring the tv picture to your screen? [12:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: does it work under linux? [12:11] <blindcoder> v4l [12:11] <blindcoder> yes [12:11] <netrunner> ah [12:11] <blindcoder> that's what I mean with "working" :) [12:11] <netrunner> name/price? [12:12] <blindcoder> WinTV USB [12:12] <blindcoder> but _Only_ the one _with_ FM Tuner [12:12] <blindcoder> the one without does NOT work [12:12] <blindcoder> 129 TEuros [12:12] <netrunner> does it support digital tv? (as you move to berlin, you would need it ;) [12:13] <blindcoder> Where I'm going to live you don't need a digital receiver [12:13] <blindcoder> there is a translater or whatever these things are called in the house [12:13] <blindcoder> So I'm fine for some time [12:14] <blindcoder> bbl, lunch [12:30] <esden> ahh blindcoder woke up but I was too slow >_< [12:54] <blindcoder> back [12:55] <blindcoder> moin esden [13:06] <esden> hi blindcoder [13:07] <esden> where is that search system for rock packages? [13:07] <blindcoder> ehm... [13:07] <blindcoder> well... [13:07] <blindcoder> it is... it was in ~blindcoder/public_html [13:07] <esden> argh blindcoder [13:07] <blindcoder> oh wait [13:07] <esden> blindcoder: you know the word "backup"? ;) [13:07] <blindcoder> svn://scavenger.homeip.net/rock_sonar [13:08] <blindcoder> esden: Ibought 25 DVD-Rs the very same day [13:08] <esden> how did it happen? [13:08] <daja77> blindcoder: you can use the command line tool radio, which is included in xawtv package, or fetch kradio, gradio or sth like that [13:08] <esden> (and so by the way the rock linux in a tar.bz2 is on apollo in my home ;)) [13:08] <blindcoder> I wrote a script that automatically created mountpoints for USB-Sticks with entries in /etc/fstab and soon [13:09] <blindcoder> this script was supposed to be only started if an uSB-Device with the usbid of my mobile disk and stick was inserted/ejected [13:09] <blindcoder> unfortunatiely it was started when _any_ usb device wan inserted/ejected [13:09] <blindcoder> thus triggering a bug that caused the following command to be executed: [13:09] <blindcoder> rm -rf /mnt/ [13:10] <blindcoder> and my fileserver/mail-/web- was mounted on /mnt/crazyhorse/ [13:10] <blindcoder> daja77: ah cool. thanks [13:10] <blindcoder> esden: as soon as I have some spare bandwidth I'll download it [13:10] <esden> that was bad ... [13:11] <blindcoder> indeed [13:11] <esden> ok ... then have fun with that tarball ... it is directly copied out of thunderbird [13:11] <blindcoder> esden: well, the rock sonar thing is in svn-repository which wasn't deleted [13:11] <esden> but if I see it correctly the mailbox format is mbox [13:11] <netrunner> ah, now the livecd builds. [13:12] <blindcoder> esden: filename? [13:12] <esden> rock.sbd.tar.bz2 [13:18] <netrunner> anyone knows where the packaging code is in? [13:18] <blindcoder> Build-Pkg [13:21] <esden> ahh that was a good pizza ... *murpf* [13:22] <daja77> <- continuing on studienarbeit [13:22] <daja77> cu [13:26] <netrunner> hf [13:50] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAAF5B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:56] <esden> weeeeehooooo I will get my laptop today !!! WEEEEE [13:57] Action: esden Jumping around ;) [13:57] Action: netrunner giving esden a cookie [13:57] <esden> netrunner: thanks ;) [13:59] <netrunner> esden: what type? [14:00] <esden> netrunner: powerbook 15.2" 1.5GHz 512MBRam 80GB disk combo drive [14:03] <daja77> cool so you could do ppc port [14:03] Action: daja77 hides [14:06] <netrunner> gngngn, now I find my isdn card working, but remember that I unplugged the cable in favour of my telefone :/ [14:13] <esden> daja77: :P [14:13] <esden> netrunner: very intelligent! [14:13] <esden> damn ... the guy made a mistake ... the laptop will be there next week ... not today >_< [14:59] <th> moin [14:59] <netrunner> hi th [14:59] <esden> hi th [15:00] <th> yo hi [15:14] Action: netrunner is utterly bored [15:15] <daja77> code! [15:16] Action: netrunner is @work currently and not supposed to bypass the company firewall to irc @home or do rl stuff ;) [15:17] <daja77> oh ic [15:19] nzg (~tschmidt@p508E9E90.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:20] <nzg> moin [16:04] Action: netrunner booting livecd [16:08] <netrunner> why do I have a blinking cursor in the upper left? [16:08] <netrunner> I mean ... kde started fine, but there's this cursor ... :) [16:09] <netrunner> hm, our livecd is way more responsive than the knoppix one. [16:10] <daja77> it needs some polishing ... [16:10] <netrunner> works like a charm so far. [16:10] <daja77> it does [16:11] <netrunner> and it has only 437MB, so there's some more space. [16:11] <daja77> i meant polishing so that it can't be used by knoppix users too [16:11] <daja77> yep that's the best part [16:12] <netrunner> daja77: can, not can't, no? [16:12] <daja77> s/can't/can [16:12] <netrunner> :) [16:12] <netrunner> what it's currently missing: autologin, network interface autosetup (ifplugd?) [16:13] <daja77> tools to store homedir on usbstick, floppy disk and stuff [16:13] madtux (~mike@196.40.44.22) joined #rocklinux. [16:13] <madtux> good day [16:13] <daja77> hi mad [16:13] <netrunner> hi mad man [16:13] <daja77> tux [16:13] <madtux> hello folks :) [16:14] <netrunner> oh, I am missing libgtk ... [16:14] <daja77> netrunner: that stuff which is on knoppix menu on knoppix [16:15] <netrunner> daja77: I haven't extensively used knoppix. just to demonstrate a few weeks ago. [16:15] <netrunner> daja77: the load times were ugly. I wonder why ours is so fast. [16:15] <daja77> yeah that's cool [16:15] <daja77> because the knoppic startup scripts are crap ... [16:15] <netrunner> oh, switching to text-console and back made the cursor vanish. maybe a fb leftover [16:16] <daja77> oh i forgot, non framebuffer stuff should work ... [16:25] <netrunner> ah, ic, it's using X in framebuffer mode. [16:35] <mnemoc_> moin [16:39] <netrunner> hi mnemoc_ [16:39] <mnemoc_> hi netrunner [16:47] maisenhe (maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:47] Nick change: maisenhe -> rolla [16:47] tcr (~tcr@p5487951E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:47] <rolla> re [16:47] <mnemoc_> hi rolla [16:47] <rolla> hallo mnemoc_ [16:48] <rolla> what is the proper german to ask for someone when you have called them on the phone? [16:49] <SMP> rolla: depends on your relationship towards the person speaking on the phone and the person you would like to talk to [16:49] <SMP> rolla: but in general "Ich wuerde gerne Xyz sprechen" seems appropriate [16:51] <rolla> thanks [16:51] <rolla> it is a co-worker [16:54] <netrunner> rolla: I'd simply assume the german on the other end to understand english ;) [16:56] <th> how was that vim option named that automatically continues c comments when entering a new line from comment [16:58] <tcr> :h format-comments [17:04] <rolla> netrunner: yes but I wanted to ask for him in german ;) [17:04] <rolla> he is swiss :) [17:06] <th> tcr: thanks. it's set formatoptions=tcrq [17:15] nzg (~tschmidt@p508E9E90.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:23] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [17:30] <netrunner> rolla: poser :) [17:31] <rolla> why am I a poser? [17:31] <fake> moun [17:31] <fake> moin* [17:31] <rolla> they learn english why can't I work on my german [17:31] <daja77> just ignore him ^^ [17:31] <madtux> hello rolla [17:31] <daja77> hi fake [17:31] <madtux> lo fake [17:32] <fake> daja77: kdeaddons/gcc34.patch doesn't apply anymore, either... /me waiting for pkg to finish [17:33] <daja77> hm haven't i mentioned to remove all those patches in the update patch description? [17:33] <fake> but all in all the kde update went very well ;) [17:33] <fake> oops. that may very well be possible [17:33] <fake> but the libpam-fix.patch for kdeadmin is still needed, i adopted it [17:33] <daja77> could you send a patch for it? [17:33] <fake> i did [17:34] <daja77> ok [17:34] <daja77> <- off from rock dev for 3 days, because of ither work ... [17:34] <SMP> daja77: no you haven't [17:34] <daja77> damn [17:34] <SMP> yeah, I thought so, too ;) [17:35] <daja77> it seems that svn rm prevents to add those removals to the patch :( [17:35] <daja77> only when you do that manually, that kind of sucks [17:35] <fake> sm del ! [17:35] <fake> not svn rm [17:36] <daja77> huh, there is a difference? [17:36] <fake> sure [17:36] <daja77> d'oh [17:36] <fake> svn commit != sm commit [17:36] <daja77> ah sm del, was not aware of this [17:37] <daja77> >_< [17:37] <mnemoc> svn del _does_ produce sm changes [17:38] <daja77> ok noticed for the next patches, sorry for the mess ... [17:38] <fake> daja77: no problem, really [17:39] <daja77> there are more patches to remove ... [17:41] <fake> stf fixed some already [18:02] tfing_ (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-66.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [18:03] Action: esden -> IN [18:05] <madtux> MPET! [18:06] tfing (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-91.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:06] Nick change: tfing_ -> tfing [18:28] [anders] (~snafu@blueice4n1.uk.ibm.com) left irc: "Client exiting" [18:32] [anders] (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [19:08] <madtux> [anders]: ! [19:18] <netrunner> has anybody a solution for the shared file issues with info dir nodes? [19:18] <netrunner> (in this case glib and gtk+12) [19:38] <fake> netrunner: see submaster [19:39] <fake> netrunner: 2004083114231418192 [19:43] <fake> hrmpf [19:43] <fake> kde needs .la files runtime [19:45] <fake> argh! [19:45] <fake> why are all kde programs installed in prefix=/usr ??? [19:49] <netrunner> fake: hm. not in my build of last night (livecd) [19:49] <netrunner> fake: maybe the update missed sth? [19:51] <fake> no. [19:51] <fake> i finished a livecd last night [19:51] <fake> it worked like a charm... [19:51] <fake> btw, the current kernel config won't work for the livecd with 2.6.8.1 [19:51] <fake> you need to add CONFIG_MD=n to target/livecd/kernel.conf [19:53] <netrunner> fake: it will. [19:53] <netrunner> fake: better: it does ;) [19:54] <fake> hum? [19:54] <fake> the kernel worked for you? [19:54] <fake> 2.6.8.1 with no NULL pointer dereferencing error? [19:55] <fake> btw, if you applied the kde updates, you'll get kde in /usr [19:55] <netrunner> fake: have you looked at the update I sent? (with the squashfs update) [19:55] <netrunner> fake: that's what I meant with update before. [19:56] <netrunner> fake: the only problem with the livecd I have is that gtk+12 was not packaged because of Found shared files with other packages: opt/gnome/share/info/dir: glib12 gtk+12 [20:06] <fake> netrunner: as you may have noticed, i already sent an update for this, and i built the 2.6.8.1 kernel with squashfs-2.0-r2 [20:06] <fake> netrunner: but it may very well be a qemu problem... [20:07] <fake> netrunner: i know. and as you can see in the texinfo parse-config this is now in flistdel [20:09] <madtux> question: where do i get 2.1 src tree? [20:11] <fake> madtux: subversion pr rsync [20:11] <fake> madtux: *or [20:11] <madtux> whats latest? [20:14] <madtux> fake: howdy btw? [20:15] <fake> madtux: they are in sync [20:15] <fake> madtux: hiiidiiihoo! [20:15] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:15] <madtux> fake: in that case svn [20:16] <madtux> please :) [20:16] <fake> see https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/ [20:16] <madtux> patches are to be sent by submaster right? [20:16] <fake> it's either [20:16] <fake> https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk or [20:16] <fake> https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk or [20:16] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:16] <fake> svn://www.rocklinux.org/rock-linux/trunk [20:16] <madtux> fine [20:17] <madtux> fake: i think we should remove the i18n stuff for Documentation.. should i actually send a patch fore this? [20:17] <madtux> for* [20:17] <fake> madtux: your chances geht higher if you do so ;) [20:18] <madtux> ok [20:20] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8D50D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [20:33] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8D194.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] [anders] (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:01] [anders] (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [21:03] Action: fake off to augsburg -> ROCK fabrik ;) [21:40] <daja77> :) [21:41] tcr (~tcr@p5487951E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:59] demian_ (~demian@208.165.55.133) joined #rocklinux. [21:59] Nick change: demian_ -> demian [22:00] demian (~demian@208.165.55.133) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:00] demian (~demian@208.165.55.133) joined #rocklinux. [22:02] <demian> hi [22:03] <demian> how can i print data values using memory address or labels in gdb ? [22:04] <demian> i just know how to print 32 bits registers, and the segment ones [22:07] <th> you might want to use some frontend? [22:07] <th> or have a look at the frontend's source? [22:09] <demian> well.. ive used gdb from command line, i want to know the way to perform a print of a value in a memory address, for example, to print a register i do: print $eax [22:09] <demian> didnt know there were frontends :p [22:11] <demian> always used ndisasm and gdb from cmdline :s [22:23] <demian> let's try this one: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/ddd/ [22:26] <SMP> ddd .. *shiver* [22:28] <daja77> hehe [22:28] <daja77> it only works for toy programms [22:28] <demian> ? want to debug nasm code [22:32] demian_ (~demian@208.165.55.133) joined #rocklinux. [22:32] demian (~demian@208.165.55.133) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:33] Nick change: demian_ -> demian [22:37] demian (~demian@208.165.55.133) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:38] demian (~demian@208.165.55.133) joined #rocklinux. [22:53] <th> 2192 builds total, 1994 completed fine, 10 with errors. [22:53] <Ragnar0k> stable? [22:53] <th> ack [22:54] <th> almost head. [22:54] <th> no wait... [22:55] <th> thats exactly the head. [22:57] <demian> ye [22:57] <demian> bye [22:57] demian (~demian@208.165.55.133) left irc: "leaving" [00:00] --- Thu Sep 2 2004