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[00:44] <daja77> ok /me shutting down all computers here [00:44] <daja77> cu next week [00:55] <th> cya daja77 [01:13] assassin (~assassin@assassin.user) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:04] valentin_ (~valentin@port-212-202-42-20.dynamic.qsc.de) joined #rocklinux. [02:05] Freak (freak@helena.bawue.de) got netsplit. [02:05] valentin (~valentin@port-212-202-42-20.dynamic.qsc.de) got netsplit. [02:07] Freak (freak@helena.bawue.de) returned to #rocklinux. [02:16] valentin (~valentin@port-212-202-42-20.dynamic.qsc.de) got lost in the net-split. [03:26] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.51) joined #rocklinux. [03:27] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.56) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:06] blindcod1r (~blindcode@pD9E4F0F4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:10] Togg_ (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:17] Togg (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) joined #rocklinux. 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[10:06] <blindcoder> moin valentin [10:06] <[anders2]> marnin [10:07] <blindcoder> moin [anders2] [10:08] Action: blindcoder currently fighting with leos cocktail bar [10:11] <blindcoder> trying to write a converter to convert all 2500+ cocktails into my Cocktail Bar Palm-Program :D [10:20] <blindcoder> writing parsers for bad html in bash and perl >_< [10:21] <blindcoder> at least I'm now able to download them into easy parsable files [10:32] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA5C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:33] <nzg> moin [10:34] <blindcoder> moin [10:43] <th> moin [10:44] <th> blindcoder: that sounds like an oreilly title to me "Writing parsers for bad HTML in Bash and Perl" [10:44] <blindcoder> hehe [10:45] <blindcoder> yeah, if I've finished this task I might actually write it [10:45] <blindcoder> leo.org's HTML code is one of the worse ones I've seen including my own [10:47] <nzg> moin blindy, th [10:47] <nzg> blindcoder, are you working on a leo.org frontend? [10:48] <blindcoder> nzg: no, just a converter from bar.leo.org to https://www.crash-override.net/Cocktail_Bar/index.php [10:48] <nzg> hey cool... i didn't know of bar.leo.org [10:49] <blindcoder> yeah, but the Mixer there sucks [10:49] <blindcoder> also, it isn't portable as in Palm :) [10:49] <nzg> hm [11:15] Nick change: nzg -> wuehlmaus [11:16] Nick change: wuehlmaus -> nzg [13:17] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-4-108.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [13:17] <De_Elsasser> halli hallo [13:18] <blindcoder> hi [13:18] SMP (~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:18] <De_Elsasser> hi blindcoder [13:19] <De_Elsasser> fake ping? [13:38] <De_Elsasser> chown: failed to get attributes of `/home/rock/trunk/src.glibc23.1094556849.11680.390621620/glibc-2.3.4-2004-05-01': No such file or directory [13:38] <De_Elsasser> --- BUILD ERROR --- [13:38] <De_Elsasser> what's this? [13:39] <De_Elsasser> there is no file... [13:39] SMP_ (~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:51] Nick change: SMP_ -> SMP [14:08] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAAB09.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:09] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA5C3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [14:17] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA5C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:45] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:58] dsoul (darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:01] <rolla> re [17:03] dsoul (darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl) joined #rocklinux. [17:07] [anders] (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:33] <rolla> anyone there? [17:37] <nzg> yes [17:37] <th> ack [17:39] <[anders2]> rst [17:42] <rolla> how is everyone doing? [17:42] <[anders2]> rolla: fantastic! absolutely fabulous! (and I am lying like a little swine..) [17:43] <rolla> :) [17:43] <rolla> [anders2]: are you sweedish? [17:43] <rolla> wow I mispelled that one [17:44] <[anders2]> rolla: how did you guess? [17:44] <rolla> everyone I meet named anders is [17:44] <[anders2]> (considering we have spoken a fair bit in the past, I am surprised you don't remember... ) [17:44] <rolla> I guess it is a very common name [17:44] <[anders2]> fairly [17:49] <[anders2]> *yawn* [17:49] Action: tcr is watching TNG... :) [17:50] <tcr> [anders2], Do you like classical music? [17:50] <[anders2]> tcr: depends... :) [17:50] <[anders2]> I like a little of everything. [17:51] <[anders2]> Wagner, Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart and even good ol' Beethowen.. [17:51] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EA5C3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [17:51] <[anders2]> s/w/v/ [17:52] <tcr> Well, there's a pretty good radio sender for what they call "Modern Music". It's pretty much everything from real classic to contemporary music (including soundtracks). [17:52] <tcr> mms://82.208.28.34/klassik128 [17:52] <[anders2]> aaah.. :-) I might have a listen to that. :) [17:53] <rolla> :) [17:53] <tcr> Unfortunately it's very often full... Tell me if you can't connect because it's occupied, I'll abort my listener then [17:53] <rolla> tcr you are too nice [17:54] <tcr> rolla: :P I'm watching Star trek for the next 4/3 hour ;) [17:54] <tcr> 3/4, duh [17:54] <esden> hi ho everyone [17:54] <[anders2]> lo esden [17:55] <tcr> rolla: You should listen too, maybe you'll grok some German ;) [17:55] <[anders2]> tcr: I tried to add the url to xmms and it decided it did not know what to do with it. :) [17:55] <rolla> yyeah that is on my list of things to do [17:55] <rolla> I am working on chinesse and japanesse right now [17:56] <esden> rolla: very usefull languages I really mus say ;) [17:57] <rolla> yes given that I work with a bunch of chinesse guys [17:57] <rolla> and will hopefully be going to Bejing to open the China office [17:58] <tcr> [anders2], Yeah, you need some player with MSS support. Mplayer should have it (it doesn't work for me, though). I'm using VLC [17:58] <tcr> esden: Are you ironic now? [17:58] <[anders2]> tcr: I will experiment. :) [17:59] <tcr> If you grok chinese really well, you can easily get translating jobs. [17:59] <tcr> For translating some research paper about medicine, you get between 1500 and 2000 euros. [18:00] <tcr> (He's studying medicine by accident and he wished he were able to earn money by that) [18:00] <tcr> s,He,My brother, [18:01] <rolla> :) [18:01] <rolla> yeah I just need to be able to work with them :) [18:04] tfing_ (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-139.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #rocklinux. [18:11] Action: fake and clifford also watching TNG [18:12] <tcr> fake: I got Dead Kennedy's... Wanna have some examplary song? [18:22] tfing (~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-250.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:22] Nick change: tfing_ -> tfing [18:28] <mnemoc_> ehi [18:28] <mnemoc_> what was decided about the next stable branch and the version of the trunk? [18:29] <th> there was some decision? [18:30] <mnemoc_> i asked first :p [18:31] <th> i just love their activity these days :) they are fixing like hell [18:37] <mnemoc_> :p [18:41] [anders2] (~snafu@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com) left #rocklinux ("Client exiting"). [18:55] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:56] <th> fake: TS session might start [19:00] <rolla> has anyone seen the new sony vaio s-series notebook? [19:00] <_Ragnar_> heya [19:01] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:07] <esden> tcr: you guess it ;) [19:12] <fake> whoever wants to join: teamspeak session running [20:25] BoS_ (~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-164.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[21:06] <esden> humm ... madtux are you leaving rock once more? o_O [21:07] <madtux> esden: guess i was never back. [21:08] <madtux> and seriopusly i don't have the will for this anymore. [21:09] <SMP> er [21:11] <fake> madtux: what's up? [21:12] <fake> madtux: are you angry because your first submaster patches ever weren't accepted? [21:12] <madtux> nah fuck those patches.. i'm not even good at using svn or submaster yet [21:12] <fake> _yet_ ! [21:13] <fake> nobody _expects_ you to do things right from the start. [21:13] <fake> it's ok to try and fail, that' why we have submaster and people that check what gets submitted. [21:13] <madtux> anyways i also removed (i guess) those stupid patches [21:13] <fake> don't be frustrated. [21:13] <madtux> ok. [21:14] <fake> the patches were ok, despite the missing description, and despite the fact that we haven't decided about what happens to the rene repository yet [21:14] <madtux> oh don't worry. [21:14] <fake> we appreciate your work, please, continue sending patches... [21:16] <madtux> ok. i'll see what i can do [21:16] <madtux> will try to make "inteligent" patches when i have time [21:16] <fake> thank you ;) [21:17] Action: fake getting something to eat now [21:18] <th> madtux: btw. my first submaster patch was missing description too. that was because of a missing newline [21:18] <madtux> fake: enjoy [21:18] <madtux> th: very well. [21:18] <SMP> madtux: if you're unsure about procedures before you post a patch, send a question or draft patch to the ml (or to me - you will get a polite answer ;-) [21:19] <madtux> SMP: ok danke. [21:31] <th> clifford: whats up with 2004063018240325605? is there any problem with it? (well it's not a build error in first place - but it's a download error.) [21:32] <SMP> th: I'll update koffice ASAP. already have it built on my system anyway [21:36] <th> SMP: you could add a note then ;> [21:37] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040113]" [21:42] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:43] <esden> humm ... I have to go shopping tomorrow ... my whiskey is empty >_<\ [21:47] <rolla> ha ha [21:53] <madtux> rolla: [21:53] <th> jsaw: ping [21:59] <th> SMP: should sysfsutils go into stable? [22:00] <jsaw> pong, th [22:00] <jsaw> hi all [22:00] <SMP> th: hmm [22:01] <th> jsaw: i sent you a mail regarding gnomesword in stable [22:01] <th> jsaw: it's the 2.0.0 failing there [22:01] <jsaw> oh, right, wait... [22:01] <th> SMP: it build ok in full refbuild. interested in flist? [22:01] <SMP> er, not really. [22:02] <jsaw> sword: usr/lib/pkgconfig/sword.pc [22:02] <jsaw> (from flists, v1.5.7) [22:03] <SMP> note: better don't talk to me right now, I'm wy too hungry ;-) [22:04] <th> jsaw: indeed. [22:05] <th> jsaw: hmmm [22:06] <jsaw> th: which gnomesword version is in stable? [22:06] <th> jsaw: https://thzn.de/rock/errs/ as you can see. it's missing that .pc. AND it's not failing in stage=9 [22:06] <th> 22:01:32 < th> jsaw: it's the 2.0.0 failing there [22:06] <jsaw> oh ... [22:07] <th> argl [22:08] <jsaw> priority? [22:08] <th> no [22:08] <th> have a look at 5-sword.log [22:09] <th> (search for "pkg-con" [22:09] <th> ) [22:09] <jsaw> ohoh [22:10] <th> and YES it is a priority problem [22:10] <th> but it's between pkgconfig itself and sword [22:10] <th> pkgconfig: 281 ; sword: 221.400 [22:10] <jsaw> ? (how did this happen) [22:11] <th> i would say we need to increment swords prio [22:12] <jsaw> hmmm, me thinks, pkgconfig should be build way sooner. [22:12] <jsaw> sure that there not other packages, that miss pkg-config? [22:13] <th> bibletime:959; gnomesword:961; sword:221.4 [22:13] <th> no i'm not sure [22:13] <jsaw> what other stuff is around 221? [22:14] <th> wait i'll get a sorted list of packages by prio [22:15] <jsaw> no, it's ok. [22:15] <jsaw> if glib is at 281, move sword up! [22:15] <th> there is no other dep on sword. [22:15] <th> i could put it quite high [22:16] <th> i want to have that prio-sorted package list now ;) [22:16] <jsaw> I know, only gnomesword and bibletime. [22:18] <th> grep '\[P\]' package/*/*/*desc | sed 's,^package/\([^:]*\):\[P\] . .......... \(.*\)$,\2 \1,' | sort [22:19] <jsaw> fgrep [P] package/jsaw/*/*.desc | awk '{print $4 " " $1;}' | sed 's,pack.*/,,; s,[.]desc.*,,' | sort -n [22:19] <jsaw> but yours is way nicer... [22:20] <jsaw> (me usually tries to run away from to many backslashes) [22:21] <th> only needed for the braces.. [22:21] <th> bdb packages are quite different in their prio [22:21] <th> 206.000 base/cvs/cvs.desc [22:21] <th> 207.000 base/rcs/rcs.desc [22:21] <th> strange [22:22] <th> oh they don't depend [22:22] <th> very well [22:28] <th> jsaw: other packages with prio lower than pkgconfig's prio (e.g. 281) install *.pc files but don't seem to need pkgconfig [22:28] <th> openssl even creates the usr/lib/pkgconfig directory [22:29] <th> and it's in it's flist [22:29] <jsaw> that's not much of a problem but still Not Good (TM) [22:31] <th> sword seems to be the only package of all packages < 281 that checks for pkgconfig [22:31] <th> i think i should change pkg-config's prio to something below 137 [22:32] <th> openssl is the first package "using" pkgconfig [22:46] <esden> good night everyone [22:46] <th> bye esden [22:46] <jsaw> cu esden [23:05] <netrunner> hah, dual asterisk setup working. [23:06] <netrunner> now if the person on the other side only would walk to his pc :) [23:06] <netrunner> hm. now I can make phone calls using his isdn line hrhrhr [23:10] <th> hrr got it! kdebindings is breaking 9-python [23:11] <th> and it's not kdebinding's fault. it's package/kde/kdebindings/kdepy.patch 's fault. [23:12] <th> no. [23:13] <th> sorry. kdepy.patch is fixing exactly the problem [23:13] <th> this has to go to stable... [23:14] kasc (~kasc@dsl-213-023-207-071.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:19] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-205-086.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:25] <mnemoc_> vn: Unknown hostname 'www.rocklinux.net' [23:25] <fake> o_O [23:27] <th> mnemoc_: fix your local cache. [23:27] <mnemoc_> my local cache of what? [23:27] <th> of dns [23:28] clifford_ (~clifford@pD9E4D3B7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:28] <th> mnemoc_: ns.nextra.at has authority to answer that query. and it answers with "www.rocklinux.net 43200 CNAME www.clifford.at" [23:30] <mnemoc_> th: silly question: how? [23:31] <th> mnemoc_: i can't answer that cause i don't know your cache [23:32] <mnemoc_> me neither [23:33] <th> mnemoc_: what does your /etc/resolv.conf contain? [23:33] <mnemoc_> i changed the server on resolve.conf :p [23:34] <mnemoc_> 200.75.0.4 <--- that's the one provided by the ISP .... can _i_ force them to update? [23:34] <th> mnemoc_: don't think so [23:34] <th> mnemoc_: but you can be your own cache [23:35] <mnemoc_> th, yes... i may install dnscache some of these days [23:36] <th> mnemoc_: cr.yp.to [23:36] <mnemoc_> i even have it as package on my rock branch :p [23:39] <fake> damn rox-filer [00:00] --- Wed Sep 8 2004