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[00:22] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040113]" [00:27] <netrunner> https://www.google.com/search?q=answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything [00:40] <fake> *ROFL* [00:40] <fake> this is great [00:47] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-082-083-043-190.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:59] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-207-075.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:59] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [02:23] mistik1 (rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:05] blindcod1r (~blindcode@pD958FA2B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:17] blindcoder (~blindcode@pD958FF56.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:11] mistik1 (rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:00] Freak (freak@helena.bawue.de) got netsplit. [06:01] Freak (freak@helena.bawue.de) returned to #rocklinux. 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[19:41] <demian> hi [19:44] tcr_ (~tcr@pD9EAB683.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:47] <th> netrunner: cat /etc/passwd | awk ' BEGIN {FS=":"} { for (i=2;i<=NF;i++) printf $i ; print } ' [19:48] <th> print "" [19:58] demian (~demian@208.165.55.133) left irc: "leaving" [19:59] treo (~xfman@D81aa.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [19:59] <treo> hi :) [20:00] <treo> th: your iso does boot :) [20:00] tcr (~tcr@p54879C2F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:31] tcr_ (~tcr@pD9EAB683.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:31] <th> hi treo [20:32] <th> treo: i want you to recreate the iso [20:32] <th> treo: it has to work [20:32] <th> treo: but if you dont feel like that... use mine [20:36] <treo> ok, il recreate it later, atm I have to do my homework ;) [20:37] <th> e.g. installing rock linux? [20:38] <treo> hehe :) [20:38] <treo> let me look what I have left to do and than we will see :) [20:48] tcr (~tcr@pD9EABA74.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:57] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8CBC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [21:14] <treo> oh, I just noticed that my sister has taken the notebook to her boyfriend and she will return tomorrow [21:14] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8D53D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:16] <fake> re [21:16] <th> hi fake [21:18] <fake> https://klingon.dw-world.de/klingon/index.php [21:18] De_Elsasser (~eric@ANancy-110-1-17-5.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:18] <fake> freaks [21:35] <fake> hm, this online radio rocks: www.digitalgunfire.com [21:38] <treo> yes it does :) [21:57] tcr (~tcr@pD9EABA74.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] <th> why does Download -required want to download gcc-2.95.3 when there is only gcc=gcc32 in config/packages? [21:59] <fake> th: that's missing logic [21:59] <fake> ./scripts/Download doesn't parse the desc files' conditional stuff [22:00] <th> hmm i see [22:00] <th> i wouldn't hurt if the cksum for gcc2 would be correct ;> [22:00] <th> /me tries to build the rescue target with trunk [22:00] <fake> o_O it should be [22:00] <fake> last time i checked it was o.k. [22:01] <th> fake: i just got a cksum-err [22:01] <fake> wait a sec... [22:01] <th> i won't leave so soon [22:01] <th> (at least not today) [22:02] <fake> download/mirror/g/gcc-2.95.3.tar.bz2: 354985877 [22:04] <th> that's the cksum of the tar. ack. and it's also in .desc [22:04] <th> but it created a cksum-err [22:06] <fake> hm... [22:07] <fake> must be hardware error ;) [22:07] <th> uhuh errors... [22:07] <th> == 09/14/04 00:06:23 =[0]=> Aborted building package gcc32. [22:07] <th> == 09/14/04 00:07:03 =[1]=> Aborted building package glibc23. [22:08] <fake> o_O [22:08] <th> uploading *err for you :) [22:08] <fake> that should read "aborted building package gcc=gcc32" [22:08] <fake> you have to adopt your pkgsel [22:08] <th> ok [22:08] <th> but [22:08] <th> can i have it compatible? [22:09] <SMP> :-} [22:09] <fake> you can call it 'gcc' [22:09] <fake> then you can select which compiler to use in Config, defaulting to gcc32 (now) [22:10] <th> fake: well i only have a "/ gcc2 / { s/^X /O /p; d; };" [22:10] <th> fake: and no explicit selection of gcc [22:10] <fake> th: can you push the pksel somewhere? [22:11] <th> fake: https://thzn.de/rock/config.in [22:14] <fake> th: wait, i'll test it... [22:14] <th> SMP: ... and i just gave him the pkgsel ... [22:17] <treo> I'll quit, c ya and good night :) [22:17] <SMP> th: he-he [22:17] <fake> *RRRRRROFFFL* [22:17] <th> treo: cua [22:17] <fake> on the net radio: HEY! you're listening to the music on the internet - without paying for it ! you're stealing! [22:18] <fake> *lmao* [22:19] <fake> humdidum. here it seems to work [22:19] <fake> only your config.in and a preconfig.in [22:19] <fake> see config/$config/packages [22:19] <th> fake: i just did a svn co trunk and Download [22:19] <fake> X 01---5---- 101.600 base glibc=glibc23 0000 / base/library 0 [22:19] <th> X 012--5---- 102.300 base gcc=gcc32 0000 / base/development DIETLIBC CC KCC CXX F77 0 [22:19] <fake> yeah [22:19] <fake> that's correct [22:20] <th> X 01---5---- 101.600 base glibc=glibc23 0000 / base/library 0 [22:20] <fake> perfect. so - it works. you're hallucinating. go away. [22:20] treo (~xfman@D81aa.d.pppool.de) left #rocklinux ("und wech ..."). [22:20] <fake> ;) [22:20] <th> fake: i'm uploading the err files now. eat this! [22:20] <fake> *yummy* [22:21] <th> https://thzn.de/rock/rescue-logs/ [22:21] <th> /home/rock/rescue/trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 979: /home/rock/rescue/trunk/src.gcc32.1095113045.25149.3520564703/dependencies.txt: No such file or directory [22:21] <fake> ../../gcc/libgcc2.c:2093: warning: no previous prototype for `__stack_smash_handler' [22:21] <fake> aaaah [22:21] <fake> i know that. [22:22] <fake> that's because of missing linux-headers [22:22] <fake> (not quite obvious, i admit) [22:23] <_Ragnar_> uh huh [22:23] <th> fake: well. i did not deselect linux-headers did i? [22:23] <th> uhh [22:23] <th> KERNEL / { s/^X /O /p; d; }; [22:23] <th> / KERNEL / { s/^X /O /p; d; }; [22:24] <fake> linux.*-header / { p; d; }; [22:24] <fake> / linux.*-header / { p; d; }; [22:24] <fake> / linux.* / { p; d; }; [22:24] <th> linux26-src / { s/^X /O /p; d; }; [22:24] <fake> that gives it as config options [22:25] <fake> / linux.*-src / { s/^X /O / ; p; d; }; [22:25] <fake> the last line doesn't work [22:25] <fake> it's wrapped in your config now [22:25] <_Ragnar_> can we make it a little more cryptic plz?:) [22:25] <fake> j00 b3t w3 c4| [22:25] <th> _Ragnar_: load your triple-rot13 plugin! [22:25] <fake> j00 b3t w3 c4|\| [22:25] <_Ragnar_> ;P [22:26] <th> fake: so what you tell me i should add? [22:26] <fake> th: wait, i'll create a diff [22:26] <th> fake: please keep in mind that it would be nice to keep it building in stable [22:26] <netrunne1> https://www.gargan.org/linux/snd-bt-sco/ *yes* [22:26] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [22:27] Action: netrunner speaks fluent rot26 [22:27] <th> netrunner: uhh. what is a "alsasound daemon"? [22:28] <netrunner> th: dunno, sth rhat reads from the bt and feeds the driver or so [22:29] <th> netrunner: so "alsasound daemon" is bt specific? [22:29] <fake> not _that's_ obvious [22:29] <th> fake: EGRAMMAR? [22:36] <th> netrunner: got this running already? [22:36] <netrunner> th: I cannot find any other reference to it ... maybe they are talking about the kernel thread [22:37] <netrunner> th: no. but soon, as I now figured how to use bt ;) [22:37] <netrunner> ... and asterisk :) [22:37] <th> netrunner: please keep me informed about that, if you don't mind. [22:38] <th> netrunner: can you give me some info about what asterisk is? [22:40] <th> netrunner: found url.. [22:41] <SMP> Asterisk is basically a rather sick a text adventure [22:41] <th> hehe [22:41] <netrunner> th: open source pbx supporting a huge variety of protocols [22:41] <fake> hm hm hm [22:41] <fake> now* [22:41] <netrunner> th: I currently use capi, sip and iax2 [22:42] <netrunner> with kphone on my clients, x-lite for windows. [22:42] <netrunner> currently in conversation over inet ;) [22:46] <fake> th: can i query you the patch? [22:46] <th> fake: ack [22:59] <th> == 09/14/04 00:59:15 =[0]=> Aborted building package gcc32. [23:02] <SMP> ``This video shows how the new XCOPY deployment capability enables developers to install a Windows-based application simply by copying files to a directory.'' [23:02] <SMP> *lol* [23:02] <fake> this is great! [23:02] <fake> have they patented it yet? [23:04] <th> it's included in the patent for copying multiple files to a directory [23:04] <th> s,the,their, [23:04] <SMP> sarcasm aside, indeed it is great [23:04] <th> whats the greatness about it? [23:04] <th> i can compile an application and put it into a directory and call it "installed" [23:05] <fake> compile statically [23:05] <fake> ... yuck. [23:05] <SMP> sure. just that it wasn't really feasible for nontrivial apps on Windows [23:05] <fake> c:\usr\bin\install.exe [23:06] <th> now they discovered LD_LIBRARY_PATH? [23:06] <fake> no, i guess they pre-, post-, under-, over-, side-, what-ever load every dll they find [23:06] <SMP> naah [23:06] <fake> how's it working, then? [23:07] <fake> own registry included(tm) ? [23:08] <SMP> assemblies will be searched first in the directory of the running assembly and then in the GAC, if the reference is a strong reference [23:09] <SMP> strong reference meaning a reference to a strongname, which is basically a public-key based signature [23:10] <fake> strongname .. that sounds like .NET [23:10] <SMP> and instead of registry keys they use XML based .config (formerly known as INI ...) files [23:10] <SMP> yes, .NET, of course [23:11] <fake> that sounds like a step back [23:12] <fake> what's the big deal? [23:12] Action: fake doesn't get it [23:14] <th> Downloading download/mirror/g/gcc34-fixes-v2.4.27.patch ... [23:14] <th> this is again "missing logic" i suppose? [23:15] <fake> yes [23:15] <fake> this is really broken c code in the kernel, in the first place [23:16] <SMP> fake: it simply works. only looks like a step back at first glimpse [23:17] <SMP> take a look at the .NET runtime directory layout e.g. - it looks more Unix-ish than Windows-ish [23:17] <netrunner> what a filename ... #btsco.c# [23:17] <SMP> netrunner: CVS or editor artifact probably? [23:17] <th> i think there are a lots of "steps backward" i'd consider improvement [23:17] <fake> SMP: i will do, if i ever get the chance ;) [23:17] <fake> netrunner: what is nx-X11 all about? [23:18] <fake> th: for example separating the GUI from the OS kernel again [23:19] <th> fake: get ready again, download is finishing soon.. [23:19] <th> :-p [23:20] <fake> i'll get something to bite first [23:21] <netrunner> fake: a X server with builtin X compression. [23:22] <netrunner> fake: I don't know how it managed to be submitted, cannot remember having sent it ... [23:22] <netrunner> fake: well, it does not hurt. but does not install the X binaries for some reason ... have not had time to continue on it [23:25] <SMP> fake: talk about how badly GUI and kernel are separated on UNIX - you get the worst of both words ... the X server can still crash the kernel and performance is lousy anyway [23:27] <SMP> s,words,worlds, [23:31] <th> .oO( mighty the dark side in him is today... ) [23:31] Action: fake remembering DOS times... [23:32] <netrunner> is there something like menu_append? [23:32] <fake> netrunner: you know that you can have the other packages extracted automagically ? [23:33] <fake> netrunner: @nx-X11 [23:33] <netrunner> fake: they are only extracted, not built. [23:35] <fake> netrunner: ... okay. [23:35] <fake> whatever. [23:35] <fake> ;) [23:36] nzg (~tschmidt@pD95F8A5F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [23:46] <netrunner> anybody can tell me what __user is and where (maybe in the kernel includes) it should be defined? [23:47] <netrunner> hm, defined in sysctl ... [23:47] <fake> compiler.h [23:48] <fake> #include <linux/compiler.h> [23:48] <fake> but you should no longer need it for user-space apps in 2.6.8.1 + [23:48] <fake> 2.6.8 + that is [23:50] dacoc (~dacoc@200.93.137.41) joined #rocklinux. [23:50] <netrunner> fake: the bluetooth headset thing is a patch for 2.6.7 ... maybe I should tell him to use the includes under /usr/src/linux/include? [23:51] dacoc (~dacoc@200.93.137.41) left #rocklinux ("Me fui"). [23:51] <fake> netrunner: you don't need a kernel patch to do that, usually [23:52] <fake> the bluetooth audio profile is in the kernel sice 2.4.something [23:52] <netrunner> fake: it adds some sco endpoint ... dont ask me :) [23:52] <fake> yeah, sco is the audio profile [23:53] <fake> netrunner: for now just add #include <linux/compiler.h> in the headerfile using __user [23:53] <netrunner> giving -I/usr/src/linux/include ... now it brings the usual gcc34 probs [23:53] <fake> dont' do that [23:53] <netrunner> fake: this is a headerfile in 2.6 anyway, I accidently copied it to /usr/include/ [23:53] <netrunner> (from the patch) [23:54] <fake> 2.6.7 had a few missing includes, yes [23:56] <netrunner> fake: but how should I compile this prog that requests headers it patches into 2.6 src? [00:00] --- Tue Sep 14 2004