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--- Log opened Wed Sep 22 00:00:16 2004 01:21:10ωνω mtr_ [~Michael@Ga76c.g.pppool.de] has left #rocklinux () 02:06:21ωνω owl_ [~54804133@62.245.214.132] has joined #rocklinux 02:06:27<owl_> moin 02:08:15<dsoul> hi owl_ :) 02:10:21<owl_> hi dsoul. how are you? 02:10:51<owl_> how do i create an uml-diagram with 4 different dates? 02:13:33ωνω Signoff owl_: #rocklinux ("bingo-irc") 02:17:57ωνω blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 02:17:59<blindcoder> moin 02:24:23ωνω owl [~owl@p15107572.pureserver.info] has joined #rocklinux 02:24:24<owl> re 02:24:34<blindcoder> wb 02:31:10ωνω BoS_ is now known as BoS 02:33:19ωνω Signoff owl: #rocklinux (Remote closed the connection) 02:35:35ωνω Signoff tfing: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:08:54ωνω mtr [~Michael@Ga76c.g.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:22:40ωνω [anders2] [~snafu@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Wed Sep 22 05:09:38 2004 --- Log opened Wed Sep 22 06:09:00 2004 06:09:00ωνω mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.59] has joined #rocklinux 06:09:00ωνω Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 23 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal] 06:09:26ωνω Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 33 secs 06:34:45ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:06:19ωνω trekkie3k [k3t@p548042DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:24:51ωνω blindcod1r [~blindcode@p548030AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:27:04ωνω tcr [~tcr@p548796EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:32:05ωνω Signoff trekkie3k: #rocklinux ("Why?") 07:47:59ωνω Signoff blindcoder: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:39:44* fake phew 08:41:10* fake off again - trhe cost 08:52:34<mnemoc> moin 09:04:34ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:19:28ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:19:44<jmaier> he guys 10:20:12<jmaier> need help building rock ppc 10:22:43ωνω tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAD5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:32:15<mnemoc> what kind of help? 10:38:26<jmaier> trying to download all required packages after config does nothing 10:38:55<jmaier> first i checked out the stable 2.0.3 tree 10:39:44<jmaier> then i did a # ./scripts/Config 10:39:58<jmaier> and then # ./scripts/Download -required 10:40:22<jmaier> no packages were downloaded at all, just the mirror detection 10:40:23<th> are you trying to cross compile? or building native? 10:40:42<jmaier> no, build native on a debian sarge powerbook 12" 10:40:47<mnemoc> jmaier: what stuff did you check on 'Config'? 10:41:39<th> (perhaps put the config file online) 10:41:42<jmaier> nothing special, just powerpc optimized for 7400 cpu 10:41:47<jmaier> ok 10:42:35<jmaier> # 10:42:35<jmaier> # ROCK Linux 2.0.3 Config File 10:42:35<jmaier> # 10:42:35<jmaier> export ROCKCFG_ARCH='powerpc' 10:42:35<jmaier> export ROCKCFG_POWERPC_ISA='common' 10:42:35<jmaier> export ROCKCFG_POWERPC_OPT='7400' 10:42:36ωνω Signoff jmaier: #rocklinux (Excess Flood) 10:43:00ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:43:07<jmaier> was that too much? 10:43:15<jmaier> i was being disconnected 10:44:18<th> 16:42:46 -!- jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:44:22<th> yes 10:44:22<th> too fast 10:44:33<daja77> erh you don't want to paste the whole file here ... 10:44:34<th> you should NOT paste the whole file here 10:45:20<jmaier> ok... did you catch the lines you need? 10:45:29<jmaier> or should i upload it somewhere 10:45:30<dsoul> pastebin.com 10:45:42<jmaier> whats that? 10:46:11<mnemoc> a place to paste 10:46:12<dsoul> you can paste text file there and give link to it 10:46:23<daja77> you could run scripts/Check-System before doin anything else and see if it gives you some hints 10:47:29<jmaier> ok cool site 10:47:55<jmaier> wait 10:49:41<jmaier> Check-System returns 0 10:49:51<daja77> hm 10:50:38<jmaier> https://pastebin.com/103618 10:50:52<jmaier> this is my bootdisk target, which downloaded nothing 10:51:44<mnemoc> do you have curl? 10:52:19<th> Check-System would have complained otherwise 10:53:11<jmaier> i did download curl 10:53:19<jmaier> https://www.pastebin.com/103620 10:53:24<jmaier> is my system target 10:55:01<jmaier> the packages and packages.txt files in both config-dirs is empty 10:55:26<jmaier> curl --version 10:55:27<jmaier> curl 7.12.1 (powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.12.1 OpenSSL/0.9.7d zlib/1.2.1.1 libidn/0.5.2 10:55:27<jmaier> Protocols: ftp gopher telnet dict ldap http file https ftps 10:55:27<jmaier> Features: IDN IPv6 Largefile NTLM SSL libz 10:56:20<th> the packages files are empty? 10:56:39<jmaier> jep, packages files are empy 10:56:43<daja77> you are working as root? 10:56:49<th> at least we know the reason why nothing is downloaded now. 10:57:02<jmaier> tried as non root, which did not work 10:57:11<daja77> yep it does not 10:57:36<jmaier> ok, but now im id=0 10:57:57<th> jmaier: try removing the bootdisk config dir and rerunning config on it 10:58:07<th> jmaier: packages and packages.txt must not be empty 10:58:25<jmaier> k, a second 10:59:28<jmaier> wc config/bootdisk/packages 10:59:28<jmaier> 0 0 0 config/bootdisk/packages 11:01:21<jmaier> befure curses-gui pops up, there is an error on scripts/Create-PkgList line 109 gawk, no such line... 11:01:52<th> ah 11:01:57<th> thats an hint 11:02:06<th> can you give the exact line? 11:02:10<jmaier> i have no gawk, its mawk 11:02:20<th> that might be fatal 11:02:27<th> can you give the exact line? 11:03:25<jmaier> before curses-gui pops up, there is an error on: ./scripts/Create-PkgList line 109: gawk: command not found 11:03:56<jmaier> im on my way installing gawk... 11:04:16<jmaier> no error anymore 11:04:46<jmaier> and size of package list is now not 0 11:04:49<jmaier> ;-) 11:05:04<jmaier> thank you, did not see the error of gawk missing... 11:06:41<jmaier> sorry for bugging you, should have seen the error in before, but the time is short because the powerbook is fast enough... 11:07:03<jmaier> maybe the Config gui should fall more noisily... 11:08:50<th> the check for gawk is missing in Check-System 11:09:21<daja77> config could run check-system ... 11:09:30<th> daja77: that wouldn't help 11:09:39<th> daja77: cause "the check for gawk is missing in Check-System" 11:10:01<daja77> *argl* of course i meant that the check should be included before 11:10:17<jmaier> do i have to install with an old benh2.4 kernel? 11:10:36<th> i don't know that 11:10:49<daja77> afaik you could use 2.6 as well but can't tell you for sure 11:11:07<jmaier> ok will give it a try and come back again if i run into problems 11:18:45<th> jmaier: please come back to report success too 11:19:01<th> jmaier: btw. where did you get the source from? is it current? 11:21:19<jmaier> k, will come back even to reporrt success. the source i check out with svn co https://...../stable-2.0.... or sth like that 11:21:28<jmaier> do you need it more correct? 11:21:30<th> ok fine 11:21:32<th> no 11:21:41<th> just wanted to know that it's the most recent source 11:21:46<jmaier> th k 11:21:59ωνω demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 11:22:03<th> if i had some ppc hardware i would test the stable tree against that too 11:22:06<demian> hi 11:22:09<th> hi demian 11:22:13<demian> mr. th 11:22:20<th> hi demian 11:22:29<th> uh 11:22:32<th> i'm repeating 11:22:37<th> must be some brain bug 11:22:55<th> sorry for that now - i'll run diagnostics later. 11:29:50ωνω blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:29:51ωνω Signoff demian: #rocklinux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:30:31<clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004092217310421856 11:30:58<daja77> hi clifford 11:31:11<clifford> hi daniel, hi gang. 11:32:12<th> clifford: see line 98 of that patch 11:32:30<th> + echo "System Check: Program 'gawk' not found!" 11:32:30<th> + echo "The bzip2 utility is needed for extracting the package" 11:32:30<th> + echo "source tars. Install the latest gawk version." 11:32:49<blindcoder> hi all 11:32:54<th> hi blindcoder 11:34:30ωνω BoS is now known as Bos^afk 11:35:25<clifford> th: fixed "the hard way" (as root on the server.. ;-) 11:35:51<th> clifford: bad boy ;) 11:37:13ωνω madtux [~mike@196.40.44.22] has joined #rocklinux 11:37:16<madtux> hello 11:38:15<blindcoder> moin madtux 11:38:27<madtux> blindy! 11:38:32<daja77> hi blindy & madtux 11:38:57<madtux> dany! 11:43:43ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:50:23ωνω tcr [~tcr@pD9EABB31.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:59:12<jmaier> l 11:59:14ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 12:24:59ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:28:43ωνω Signoff madtux: #rocklinux ("leaving") 12:34:38ωνω madtux [~mike@ip201-133-122-200.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 12:37:38<jmaier> insgesamt 0 12:37:38<jmaier> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 128 2004-09-22 17:04 bootdisk 12:37:38<jmaier> drwxr-xr-x 2 jmaier jmaier 152 2004-09-22 18:33 system 12:38:13<jmaier> sorry 12:38:51<blindcoder> somehow that Check-System patch reminds me on something I did some time ago 12:39:51<th> blindcoder: perhaps you forgot to commit that... ;) 12:41:26<blindcoder> no, I'm quite sure that I committed it to sm 12:52:14ωνω Signoff [anders2]: #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 12:55:59ωνω treo [~xfman@D9e45.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:56:33ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 12:58:38<treo> hi 12:58:59<th> hi treo 13:20:41ωνω jmaier_ [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:27:13ωνω jmaier_ [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 13:34:27ωνω rugek [~rugek@port-195-158-167-94.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:34:30<rugek> hi 14:00:23<th> hmmm anyone familiar with ntfsprogs / parted / qtparted? 14:01:51* netrunne1 raises hand for ntfsprogs 14:01:54ωνω netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 14:02:27<th> netrunner: do you know whether libparted is using stuff from ntfsprogs? 14:05:46<netrunner> th: no 14:06:27<th> i'm a bit curious about ntfs resize support in parted/qtparted 14:06:36<th> qtparted website says it can 14:06:45<th> parted website is outdated and says it cannot 14:07:59<netrunner> th: my no meant I don't know :) I use them manually 14:12:03<th> netrunner: and you would call ntfsresize from ntfsprogs stable? 14:12:54<netrunner> th: well, it worked fine twice. 14:13:06<th> hmm 14:13:07ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:13:08<th> ok ;) 14:13:08<netrunner> th: they called it stable even after the last updates. 14:13:35<netrunner> th: just follow the rules :) 14:13:51<th> i don't know rules. 14:15:32<th> hmm parted does not yet support opening (resizing) ntfs volumes. so it seems qtparted is using two backends now. parted AND ntfsprogs 14:19:06<netrunner> th: just don't make the partition smaller than the fs :) 14:22:25<th> hmm ok. so using ntfsresize one needs to resize partition and fs separatly 14:22:58<netrunner> jup. ntfsresize is only for the fs 14:24:49<th> so is ntfsresize capable of enlarging to partition size? 14:25:20<netrunner> th: if you tell him the difference :) 14:26:18<netrunner> th: you just need to tell him the size of the partition to be specific. 14:26:29<th> resize2fs can do without knowing the diff 14:26:58<th> there are so many ways of specifying that size 14:27:06<th> and i want to match exactly 14:27:35<netrunner> If both --info and --size are omitted then the NTFS filesystem will be 14:27:38<netrunner> enlarged to the underlying device size. 14:27:43<th> ok cool ;) 14:27:50<netrunner> man ntfsresize ... nice tool 14:27:56<netrunner> this man ... :) 14:27:59<th> yea already opened that before you pasted 14:30:50<th> uhhh ntfsprogs is depending on gnome-libs14 14:31:35<netrunner> this must be a mistake. 14:32:33<tcr> g'evening all 14:32:39<netrunner> hi tcr 14:32:59<netrunner> th: just resized a ntfs partition without arguments ... worked. 14:33:15* tcr had to laugh about the picture at https://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-01Physics-IFall1999/VideoLectures/index.htm 14:33:23<netrunner> (your question reminded me of that, I had demonstrated ntfsresize some time ago and didn't grow back) 14:33:27<tcr> So typically physcian :) 14:35:44<th> propably not 14:35:56<th> more likely a physicist ;-) 14:36:57<tcr> Well, that looks so much like fascist :P 14:40:10<th> volunteers for sending a parted update patch to sm? 14:41:05<netrunner> hm ... getting a bluescreen now in the resized windows :) 14:42:16<th> uh? 14:42:33<th> joking? 14:42:55<netrunner> hm, no. 14:43:23<th> so that was 2 times positive and 1 negative 14:43:28<netrunner> I remember I had this once ... 14:43:53<netrunner> cannot remember if it was a big prblem though. I think I just reran the setup from cd and it went fine. 14:44:04<netrunner> maybe I should have built the updated version ;) 14:44:40ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 15:07:02ωνω Signoff rugek: #rocklinux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:08:46ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:18:21ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux (Remote closed the connection) 15:22:23* madtux got latest 2.1 trunk.. downloading packages 15:31:03<mnemoc> =) 15:32:20<netrunner> anybody knows something like kppp that works with isdn (capi)? 15:32:42<th> pppd? 15:32:54<netrunner> th: gui? 15:32:58<mnemoc> s/^k//g 15:33:17<th> netrunner: xterm -e pppd 15:33:41<netrunner> the person in question is musician. I am bored of cleaning his windows from worms. now he has linux. 15:34:03<netrunner> th: you want me to quickly write a kde application with a stop button for ppp? :) 15:34:46<th> netrunner: yesterday i wrote a xdial.sh for a friend. it does xterm -e pppd OPTIONS... 15:35:00<th> netrunner: he clicks on that script (it's on his desktop) and dialing starts 15:35:14<th> within an xterm 15:35:26<th> and he can just close the xterm with the X in the top right corner 15:35:37<netrunner> ah, kisdn exists 15:35:45<th> and line disconnects on closing the xterm 15:36:12<netrunner> th: he'd be frightened if he sees the xterm and would stop supplying me with free pizza :) 15:36:37<th> kisdn was propritary some time ago 15:37:03ωνω Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: SerWou, madtux, mistik1 15:37:03<th> guess who contacted the author 15:37:26<th> and put the whole source at sf.net 15:37:35<rolla_> re 15:37:38ωνω rolla_ is now known as rolla 15:38:20<th> https://sourceforge.net/projects/kisdn/ 15:38:33<netrunner> th: ohups :) 15:38:35<netrunner> th: does it still work? 15:38:41ωνω Netsplit over, joins: madtux, mistik1, SerWou 15:38:47<th> netrunner: i don't know 15:38:57<netrunner> th: you are the project admin, you have to :) 15:39:06<th> netrunner: i just got some zip media from the author and extracted the source from it 15:39:37* netrunner giving up the hope 15:39:42<th> i put it on a CD-R and sent it back to the author (cause he was unable to read his zips) 15:40:04<th> what is the problem with using kppp? 15:40:14<netrunner> it wants to talk to a modem. 15:40:43<netrunner> would maybe work with the old i4l ttyIn devices, but not with capi at all 15:41:20ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B057.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 15:43:55* netrunner digging in the blue with extracting the dialup utility 15:51:12ωνω Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: SerWou, madtux, mistik1 15:52:20ωνω Netsplit over, joins: madtux, mistik1, SerWou 15:52:20ωνω Signoff mistik1: #rocklinux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:52:28ωνω mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:53:19ωνω Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: SerWou, madtux 15:54:02ωνω Netsplit over, joins: madtux, SerWou 16:10:31ωνω Signoff madtux: #rocklinux (Success) 16:12:10ωνω madtux [~mike@ip201-133-122-200.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:12:17<madtux> re 16:18:09ωνω wkrigr234 [~wkrigr234@pD9EE330C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:45:57<treo> gn8 16:46:37ωνω Signoff treo: #rocklinux ("cya@all") 17:04:44ωνω Signoff mtr: #rocklinux ("ChatZilla 0.9.45 [Mozilla rv:1.6a/20031029]") 18:48:47ωνω kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-204-095.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:52:18ωνω Signoff madtux: #rocklinux ("Leaving") 19:01:33ωνω Signoff kasc: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:01:34ωνω kasc_ is now known as kasc 20:39:14ωνω netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C41E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:56:53ωνω Signoff netrunner: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:19:33ωνω Signoff mistik1: #rocklinux (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:52:19ωνω mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:01:56ωνω blindcod1r [~blindcode@p54803511.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:10:28ωνω Signoff blindcoder: #rocklinux (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:36:04ωνω Signoff mistik1: #rocklinux ("kernel change") 22:48:48ωνω mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Thu Sep 23 00:00:31 2004