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--- Log opened Mon Sep 27 00:00:50 2004 02:16:00<praenti> hi. somebody here at the moment? I have only a few minutes left 02:25:49* praenti away 02:36:07ωνω blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 02:36:09<blindcoder> moin 03:33:26ωνω [anders2] [~snafu@blueice4n1.uk.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 04:53:07ωνω mtr [~Michael@Gaa1d.g.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:12:21* netrunne1 heating up the iron 05:14:34ωνω netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 05:47:17ωνω Signoff mtr: #rocklinux ("ChatZilla 0.9.45 [Mozilla rv:1.6a/20031029]") 06:09:17<netrunner> "The difference between young and old programmer is that first one thinks that 1 KB is 1000 bytes, and second thinks that 1 km is 1024 meters." :-) 06:26:14<netrunner> the bdb default symlink does not seem to be created. 06:59:21<netrunner> now it is ... *wonder* 07:06:00<SerWou> hey 07:06:03<SerWou> i've got a question 07:09:58<SerWou> i mount a FAT32 HD on my Rock Linux to copy some files to another HD, this other HD is not full, but i can create any directory, etc.. is there something wrong like a Read-Only mode ? 07:14:28<netrunner> SerWou: if you mount it read only, then you cannot write, that's true. 07:14:51<SerWou> on the one i've mounted, i'm ok 07:14:54<netrunner> SerWou: maybe you check if you have permission to create directories. 07:15:04<SerWou> but on the one i use 07:16:16<SerWou> where i can check this priviledge ? 07:18:02<netrunner> ls -l /mnt/hdwithproblem 07:18:29<netrunner> SerWou: the fact that you cannot create dirs is the sign that you have not sufficient priviledges. 07:18:53<SerWou> i'm in root 07:19:44<SerWou> i've got 2 Hds : one System, one mounted, i don't care to write on the mounted, but it's the one where i run the system, it's strange, it's my second HD, and i can write on it 07:21:07<SerWou> i can't* 07:21:09<SerWou> ;) 07:32:52ωνω mtr [~Michael@Gaa1d.g.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:34:04<mtr> hi 07:35:10<SerWou> hy mtr 07:35:43<mtr> i have build a 2.1.0-DEV desktop target 07:35:54<mtr> now i try to install and verify 07:36:18<mtr> but i found that the kernel module for my ethernet card has not been built 07:36:54<netrunner> mtr: usually we build full modularized kernels ... 07:37:06<netrunner> SerWou: are you root? 07:37:17<SerWou> yes 07:37:21<netrunner> SerWou: what is the command you run and what is the error message? 07:38:28<mtr> netrunner: yes i know, but CONFIG_NET_TULIP is set to 'n' 07:39:09<SerWou> i have one 40Go and one 160Go and a temp 120Go with FAT32 partitions, i've mouted the 120Go and i'm copying files from the 120Go to the 160Go, everything is ok, but now, i want to rename or make a directory, it's not working 07:39:16<SerWou> i think i've sold the problem 07:39:43<mtr> netrunner: sorry, the exact definition from .config_modules is 'CONFIG_NET_TULIP is not set' 07:41:28ωνω tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB67D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:02:44<netrunner> mtr: and in the .config itself? could it be that you built a non-modular kernel? 08:08:47<mtr> netrunner: .config and .config_modules are identically 08:09:15<mtr> netrunner: hmmm, in linux.conf there is 'eval $MAKE no2modconfig' 08:09:45<mtr> netrunner: shouldn't that be 'eval $MAKE allmodconfig' ? 08:54:00<netrunner> mtr: no, I think no2modconfig is ok there. it switches all disabled to module 09:08:33<mtr> netrunner: it seems that no2modconfig does not enable subcategories 09:09:29<mtr> netrunner: at least i found two options - CONFIG_NET_TULIP and CONFIG_DVB - which should be set to 'y' 09:11:03<mtr> i change the targets kernel.conf to workaround this 09:18:11<netrunner> mtr: in my last build that finished today tulip got enabled. 09:19:09<netrunner> build/builder-2.1.0-DEV-x86-athlon-mp-32-desktop-expert/usr/src/linux-2.4.27-rock/.config:CONFIG_TULIP=m 09:30:35ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux ("Leaving") 09:59:42ωνω Signoff clifford: #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 10:00:46ωνω clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:23:39<mtr> netrunner: my build is based upon linux26, seems to make the difference 10:23:46<mtr> grep TULIP build/desktop-2.1.0-DEV-x86-athlon-32-desktop-expert/usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-rock/.config 10:23:54<mtr> # CONFIG_NET_TULIP is not set 10:24:29<netrunner> mtr: hm, yes. in my 2.6 tulip is also not set. 10:28:57<mtr> netrunner: the options for all tulip drivers have been moved into a subcategorie somewhere in 2.5.x 10:32:49<netrunner> mtr: that shouldn't matter. 10:38:01<mtr> netrunner: hmm, the kernel patch 12-conf-hacks.patch introduces a new type for the kconfig script, ask_no2mod 10:39:08<mtr> then all options of 'type == S_TRISTATE' are changed to 'm' 10:39:22ωνω You're now known as mnemoc 10:39:33<mtr> but options of type S_BOOLEAN are left unchanged, like CONFIG_NET_TULIP 10:42:10<netrunner> hi mnemoc 10:42:37<netrunner> anybody knows where wxwindows has gone? xmule wants it but I don't find it :) 10:44:21<daja77> renamed to wxwidgets iirc 10:45:23<netrunner> ok. so wxwidgets and libnet are missing in desktop. more suspected to be ... 10:48:30<mtr> ... some more missing in desktop: vcdimager needs libcdio, wvdial needs wvstreams, and many gnome packages need cpan ... 10:53:27<blindcoder> moin 10:54:04<netrunner> hi blindcoder 10:55:38ωνω ruben_ [~ruben@p5487B202.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:57:16* blindcoder is getting strange results with gcc34 10:57:23<blindcoder> programs that compile and "almost" work 10:57:53ωνω ruben_ [~ruben@p5487B202.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Verlassend") 11:09:00ωνω hannes_ [~hannes@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:36:38<blindcoder> moin hannes_ 11:43:16ωνω Signoff hannes_: #rocklinux ("leaving") 11:59:05<netrunner> blindcoder: do you know how I can find out pythons prefix and version in a .conf? (need it for boost) 12:00:04<netrunner> blindcoder: thx ... python -V 2>&1 | sed 's/Python \([0-9]\.[0-9]\).*/\1/' 12:00:30<blindcoder> I didn't say anything 12:00:31<daja77> ^^ 12:00:48<daja77> blindcoder: yeah and that was an astonishing answer 12:01:00<blindcoder> sad that it's also wrong :/ 12:01:11<blindcoder> python -V only gives version, not prefix 12:01:26<daja77> which python could give prefix 12:02:52<netrunner> oh well, I just set it to $root/$prefix 12:04:38* netrunner just had the idea with a build with root="c:" and prefix="Program Files" 12:06:59<blindcoder> ? 12:07:59<netrunner> then I set fvwm95 as default windowmanager ... with autologin ... 12:22:22ωνω [anders2] [~snafu@blueice4n1.uk.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting") 12:36:21ωνω valentin_ [~valentin@port-212-202-42-20.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:36:21ωνω Signoff valentin: #rocklinux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:52:26ωνω tcr [~tcr@p548799E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:32:08ωνω jmaier [~jmaier@pD9E4B307.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:32:19<jmaier> he all 13:59:17ωνω treo [~xfman@Dabb7.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:21:04ωνω Signoff jmaier: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:57:12ωνω Signoff tcr: #rocklinux (Remote closed the connection) 16:06:16ωνω blackula [1000@68-190-42-27.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:15:55<rugek> fake: hey! present? 16:20:55<rugek> what about a new ppc build? 16:30:52ωνω Signoff mtr: #rocklinux ("ChatZilla 0.9.45 [Mozilla rv:1.6a/20031029]") 16:50:36<treo> gn8 16:54:53ωνω valentin_ is now known as valentin 16:55:15ωνω Signoff treo: #rocklinux ("cya@all") 16:55:16<netrunner> hi valentine 16:59:23<valentin> hi 16:59:32<valentin> back from holidays 17:27:22<valentin> gn8 17:27:47<daja77> n8 valentin 17:43:06<jsaw> hi all 18:15:50<daja77> hi jsaw 18:17:04<daja77> n8 18:37:13<jsaw> hi daja77 , n8 daja77 18:44:02ωνω Signoff kasc: #rocklinux (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:49:17ωνω kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-204-184.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:20:29ωνω Signoff blackula: #rocklinux (Client Quit) 20:57:57ωνω netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CDAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:14:56ωνω Signoff netrunner: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:01:44ωνω blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD9E4F8F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Mon Sep 27 22:21:04 2004 --- Log opened Mon Sep 27 22:21:49 2004 22:21:49ωνω mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.58] has joined #rocklinux 22:21:49ωνω Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 20 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 22:22:19ωνω Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 38 secs 22:35:46ωνω Signoff mnemoc: #rocklinux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:35:41ωνω gman_ [~gman@Toronto-HSE-ppp3887112.sympatico.ca] has joined #rocklinux 23:35:55<gman_> hello 23:36:46<gman_> i wanted to know if its possible to make a build with the 2.6 kernel without having any errors 23:41:05<gman_> or does it change something?? anyways i install the latest kernel once installed 23:41:56<gman_> and nvidia drivers cant compile telling me i must have the wrong version of the kernel source...very weird... 23:42:24<gman_> i mean probably have the wrong kernel source 23:47:18ωνω Signoff SerWou: #rocklinux ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040113]") 23:52:38ωνω SerWou [~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:53:21<SerWou> Hello the Chan 23:56:07<gman_> hey serwou 23:56:19<gman_> cest la que je tattrape 23:56:47<gman_> jai installer rock linux 23:57:24<gman_> mais mes driver nvidia marche plus... ca me casse les couille 23:58:01<gman_> taurait pas vu Bruju dans le parage? --- Log closed Tue Sep 28 00:00:06 2004