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[00:02] Nick change: treo -> |Ein [00:04] Nick change: |Ein -> tre0 [01:13] <netrunner> re [01:32] <tre0> gn8@all [01:33] tre0 (~xfman@D91af.d.pppool.de) left irc: "cya@all" [02:00] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [02:24] nzg (~tschmidt@p508EB6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [03:09] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:07] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-224.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:14] blindcod2r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-101-218.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:18] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-152-168.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:26] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-224.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Connection timed out [05:08] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.14) joined #rocklinux. [05:21] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.26) left irc: Connection timed out [07:29] Nick change: blindcod2r -> blindcoder [07:29] <blindcoder> moin [07:37] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8C8A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [07:37] <blindcoder> moin netrunne1 [07:54] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8C18E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:43] Action: blindcoder now burning a Crystal DVD for installation on his main machine [08:54] <SMP> blindcoder: thanks for the reply. what glibc version and running / built-with kernel is that? [08:57] <blindcoder> blindcoder@fuzzy:~$ mine -q glibc23 [08:57] <blindcoder> glibc23 2.3.2 2.0.0-rc5 [08:57] <blindcoder> running on 2.6.6 built with 2.4.24 or 25 [08:57] <blindcoder> but don't nail be on the built kernel [08:59] <blindcoder> 2.4.25 (at least according to the svn of 2.0.00 [08:59] <SMP> yeah, that what I got last year with similar versions [08:59] <SMP> at least it finally works now *shurg* [09:01] <blindcoder> what's the difference between the two things? [09:01] <SMP> sysenter is more lightweight [09:02] <SMP> I'll try to pseudo-benchmark it once my build is through [09:02] <blindcoder> I see [09:18] <blindcoder> SMP: any more remarks about the menu autocreation? [09:19] <SMP> not really. the KDE .desktop files just predate the fdo standard, so ... [09:19] <SMP> what's your status about that now? [09:20] <blindcoder> SMP: my status is what is currently posted to submaster [09:20] <blindcoder> SMP: I'd create .desktop files where it makes sense and also volunteer to maintain those [09:22] <SMP> yeah. why couldn't we agree an that right from the start? ;) [09:23] <blindcoder> <insert diplomatic answer here> :-) [09:23] <SMP> ;-p [09:33] <SMP> now that is interesting. [09:36] <SMP> gcc33 stopped supporting __attribute__((visibility())) when it was rebuilt in stage 3 [09:39] <SMP> and libunwind builds in stage 0 and 5, but not in 2 and 3 [09:44] <blindcoder> passwd: Module is unknown [09:44] <blindcoder> what's that? [09:44] <SMP> PAM? [09:44] <blindcoder> probably [09:48] <blindcoder> but I don't really understand it [09:49] <blindcoder> it does everything up to reading /etc/shadow and then fails [09:52] koffa_ (koffa@h211n1fls35o862.telia.com) joined #rocklinux. [09:57] <koffa_> hm, where can I find the crystal-thingie-homepage? [09:57] <SMP> koffa_: there isn't one (yet) [09:58] <koffa_> uhm, how come I have two ISO's here saing else? ;o [09:58] <SMP> saying what? [09:59] <koffa_> ohoh [09:59] <koffa_> no homepage <= [09:59] <koffa_> that might be correct, didn't think of what I wrote [09:59] <koffa_> but where can I get the md5? [10:00] <SMP> no official Crystal images have been releasted yet [10:00] <blindcoder> https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/blindcoder/crystal/ [10:00] <SMP> the code isn't even checked in ... [10:00] <koffa_> :I [10:00] <koffa_> someone in here recomended it to me [10:01] <koffa_> oh well, I can try atleast (: [10:01] <koffa_> tnx (: [10:28] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [12:32] <SMP> wow [12:33] <SMP> 100.000.000 getpid() syscalls take: 48 seconds via int 0x80, 16 seconds via sysenter [12:57] <blindcoder> ouch [13:01] treo (~xfman@Da6bd.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:02] <treo> sali [14:08] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-082-083-046-168.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:14] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) joined #rocklinux. [14:19] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-190-043.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:19] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [14:46] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:03] Action: netrunner just found a natural keyboard on the sperrmuell [15:03] <netrunner> quite yellow, but funny to use. [15:40] tcr (~tcr@dsl-213-023-069-027.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:45] <th> anyone has an idea how to implement a second pass in .conf without overriding custmain? [15:54] <SerWou> Hello the chan [15:54] <tcr> for ((i=1; i<=2; i++)); do blah; done ? [15:55] <th> tcr: it's exactly the "blah" i'm asking for. [15:55] <th> but it's in sctipts/functions [15:59] <th> and i can skip some hook_eval [16:00] <th> (merging subversion-static into subversion package for 2.0-stable [16:00] <th> want to build static version as it's done for qt package [16:00] <th> ) [16:14] asmoday (~xx@pD9E8EF3E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:58] <th> !> usr/share/man/man3/ne_status.3: neon subversion [16:58] <th> uhh [17:05] <mnemoc_> subversion has it's own neon [17:10] <th> yea i know but: [17:10] <th> pkginstalled neon && var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-neon=$root/usr" [17:10] <th> and i think it shouldn't install man pages then [17:10] <th> and it didn't before [17:13] <th> ahhhhhhhhh [17:13] <th> i must not forget the custmain=svn_main [17:18] <mnemoc_> :) [17:19] <th> another _silent_ libtiff regression: imlib [17:19] <th> makes gnome-control-center14 fail.. [17:19] <SerWou> hello mnemoc_ [17:21] <mnemoc_> hello SerWou [17:23] asmoday (~xx@pD9E8EF3E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:57] mike84 (~Michael@N454P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:57] <mike84> hi [18:11] tcr (~tcr@dsl-213-023-069-027.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:17] tcr (~tcr@dsl-213-023-069-027.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:20] mike84 (~Michael@N454P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left #rocklinux ("I'll be back :-)"). [19:26] <fake> &yawn* [19:27] <th> hey fake [19:27] <th> fake: just tested ppc live cd [19:27] <_Ragnar_> moin [19:27] <th> fake: usr/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/lib/ stuff is missing to compile things [19:28] <th> fake: but kde run ok on ibook g4 [19:33] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [19:40] <fake> th: i know, the compile stuff is completely missing. [19:41] <fake> th: this is called a 'desktop oriented livecd' - desktop as in 'user' desktop, not 'terminal collator application' ;-) [19:41] <th> fake: well there is gcc and it can _compile_ [19:41] <th> fake: it cannot link [19:41] <fake> th: i wrote a mail to the ML reg. this last week, iirc [19:41] <fake> rock-user it was, i think [19:41] <th> yes. i read that. [19:42] <th> fake: but you were unsure about it. [19:42] <th> fake: i just killed your doubt [19:42] <fake> th: jep, thanks [19:43] <th> fake: but the friend who owns that ibook was impressed [19:43] <fake> *grins* [19:43] <th> fake: i tried a gentoo livecd before - and the graphic did not work correctly even in framebuffer [19:44] Action: fake has one to two weeks before CCC to release a new ISO [19:44] <fake> daja77: ping [19:45] <fake> (with a working compiler and the pseudonative daemon shipped _and_ a desktop wallpaper with a big, fat ROCK logo [19:45] <fake> ) [20:05] <blindcoder> hi [20:06] <th> hi blindy [20:10] <blindcoder> moin th [20:15] tcr (~tcr@dsl-213-023-069-027.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [21:39] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "SerWou left the Chan" [21:39] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:52] armijn (~armijn@losser.labs.cs.uu.nl) joined #rocklinux. [22:54] <armijn> welll... [22:54] <armijn> so rock is still alive [22:55] <fake> o'course! [22:57] <armijn> good [22:57] <armijn> maybe I should reinstall my Ultra with Linux... [22:57] <armijn> I'm thinking of giving rock another shot...just because of nostalgia [22:58] <armijn> but I might also go for aurora... [22:58] <armijn> so, convince me [22:58] LordChaosThe1st (~omer@67-40-124-181.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:59] <mnemoc> armijn: you want stable or unstable? [22:59] <armijn> mnemoc: depends :) [22:59] <armijn> I once ported 1.5.x to UltraSparc... [22:59] <mnemoc> clifford announced a new 'official RL distribution' called Crystal some days ago [23:00] <armijn> the only UltraSparc in the world that ever ran ROCK 1.5.x ;-) [23:00] <mnemoc> hehe [23:00] <armijn> mnemoc: will that be 3.0? [23:00] <mnemoc> trunk looks more like a 3.0 but it's named 2.1 [23:01] <mnemoc> Crystal is a target [23:01] <armijn> clifford told me at SANE I should try 3.0 when it is released [23:01] koffa_ (koffa@h211n1fls35o862.telia.com) left #rocklinux. [23:02] <mnemoc> it would be nice to have 2.0 for sparc... iirc it's not working [23:02] <armijn> hmm, clifford said there are even live CDs for UltraSparc [23:02] <mnemoc> yes? oh [23:02] <armijn> well, that's what he said... [23:02] <mnemoc> i don't have sparc to try :) [23:02] <fake> not yet [23:02] <fake> but soon [23:02] <mnemoc> fake is mr. livecd :) [23:02] Action: fake did a lot (u)sparc work on 2.1-DEV lately [23:02] <armijn> who's doing (ultra)sparc these days? [23:03] <mnemoc> fake: what about 2.0? [23:04] <fake> mnemoc: no boot cd code, dietlibc doesn't work, so no bootdisk - ergo, nothing really useable [23:09] <armijn> hmm... [23:09] <armijn> that's some pretty heavy ranting about this "T2" on the mailinglits [23:09] <fake> that's all fixed in 2.0 [23:09] <fake> err [23:09] <fake> 2.1 [23:09] <armijn> s/mailinglits/mailinglist/ [23:11] <mnemoc> armijn: most attacks are about rene's wish to use C++ on core part of the build kit [23:13] <armijn> it's funny... [23:13] <armijn> he asks why rock uses so many developers [23:13] <armijn> well, I know why I left... [23:13] <mnemoc> hehe [23:14] <fake> uses? looses... ? [23:14] <armijn> I remember loads of ranting about my sparc work from one "rene" [23:14] <fake> hehe [23:14] <armijn> https://www.rocklinux.net/pipermail/rock-devel/2004-October/001098.html [23:14] <armijn> fake: ehr, yeah...loses...not completely awake [23:15] <fake> me neither, drinking gooood bavarian weizen beer [23:15] <armijn> yum [23:15] <armijn> the only good thing from bavaria >-) [23:16] <armijn> but really, it's funny that he mentions that in his e-mail... [23:20] Action: fake annoyed by all that uber-emotional un-productive stuff by now [23:21] <armijn> hey, it's all a bit new for me, so... [23:22] <armijn> I need my daily dosis of dirt [23:26] <fake> armijn: i surely didn't mean you ;) [23:26] Action: fake watching tv, afk... [23:47] Action: armijn off [23:47] armijn (~armijn@losser.labs.cs.uu.nl) left #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Sun Oct 24 2004