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[00:01] <daja77> hi fake [00:01] <fake> hi daja77! [00:06] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.97) left irc: "leaving" [00:11] <owl> gn8 [00:18] webgeekgurl (~tavonia@ip24-252-197-154.mc.at.cox.net) left irc: [00:20] clifford (~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [02:13] madtux (~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:06] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-101-167.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:06] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-068.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:06] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [04:21] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:26] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [04:46] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8DAC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [04:59] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.12) joined #rocklinux. 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[09:15] Nick change: BoS_ -> BoS [09:20] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-205-032.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:20] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [10:17] <th> moin [10:17] <blindcoder> moin th [10:18] <netrunner> https://www.heise.de/security/artikel/49687 [10:20] <blindcoder> sweet, my mozilla crashedh on that link :) [10:22] <blindcoder> and keeps crashing [10:24] <th> "If you see this text, your browser do not support javascript." tells me my firefox [10:24] <th> and js is not disabled [10:24] <netrunner> well, my firefox works fine on that link :) [10:25] <blindcoder> must be the underlying OS here [10:26] esden (~esdentem@apeiron-group.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:26] esden__ (~esdentem@apeiron-group.de) joined #rocklinux. [10:27] esden (~esden@p50804D7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [10:27] <esden> hi ho everyone [10:28] <blindcoder> wb esden [10:29] <esden> hi blindcoder [10:29] <esden> damn cold ... I hate it! [10:30] Action: blindcoder warms himself on the hot air coming from the two SunFire 4800 here [10:31] <esden> :P [10:33] <netrunner> jo esdo [10:33] <netrunner> hm. [10:33] <netrunner> this should read hi esdi, but sounded equally cool :) [10:35] <esden> humm ... I am happy that you found a new good sounding name for me ... *headshake* [11:23] hannes_ (ucbiv@rzstud3.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:41] Togg_ (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) joined #rocklinux. [11:59] Togg (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:20] <owl> moin [12:39] nzg (~tschmidt@pD95F867C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:42] <mnemoc> moin [12:42] <netrunner> moin mnemmy [12:43] <mnemoc> :) [12:47] <mnemoc> netty, do you know how to remove by hand an extension from thunderbird? :( [12:48] <netrunner> how by hand? does the settings dialog not work? [12:49] <mnemoc> it doesn't start :\ [12:51] <netrunner> the dialog or thunderbird? [12:52] nzg (~tschmidt@pD95F867C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [12:52] <mnemoc> thunderbird [12:53] <netrunner> mnemoc: hm. I don't use thunderbird, but firefox has a subdir 'extensions' in .mozilla/firefox/default.mt2 [12:53] <netrunner> maybe if you move this somewhere else ... [12:54] Action: mnemoc searching [12:54] <mnemoc> {27A2FD41-CB23-4518-AB5C-C25BAFFDE531} <--- the name of the damn extension [13:00] hackbard (foobar@hackdaworld.org) left #rocklinux. [13:01] <mnemoc> finally :) ... after 6 restarts thunderbird reconstructed everything i deleted :p [13:01] <mnemoc> thanks netrunner for the tip [13:04] <blindcoder> d'oh [13:04] <blindcoder> why does svn report "no route to host" when it means "connection refused"? [13:08] <mnemoc> 1.1.1 claim to have improved their error messages [13:13] <mnemoc> uhm slmodem didn't updated [V] 2.9.10 [13:39] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [13:40] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:40] <owl> <- off, running away and having stress. bye [13:41] <mnemoc> cu owl :\ [13:49] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [13:49] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:58] <blindcoder> okay, next newsletter prepared [14:58] <netrunner> mnemoc: oh sorry [14:59] <netrunner> we should really extract the version from the filename [15:00] <mnemoc> it's funny to see it passed all the validation phases [15:06] <netrunner> mnemoc: well, then it came up to you :) [15:07] Action: mnemoc , the last line of defence :) [15:16] CoolPops (~jeremy@cable-53-38.sssnet.com) joined #rocklinux. [15:16] CoolPops (~jeremy@cable-53-38.sssnet.com) left #rocklinux. [15:35] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.97) joined #rocklinux. [15:35] <madtux> hello [15:35] <daja77> hi madtux! [15:35] <madtux> daniel! [15:35] <mnemoc> mike [15:35] <madtux> mny [15:38] <netrunner> hy maddy [15:39] <madtux> hello netty [15:52] <blindcoder> DONE IT! [15:52] <blindcoder> WEE! [15:53] <blindcoder> Set up a Wiki with a subversion backend :D [15:53] <madtux> err.. blindy?! [15:53] <madtux> ah :) [15:53] <blindcoder> no, not sex :P [15:53] <madtux> blindcoder: i though u had lost ur virginity [15:55] <blindcoder> nah, I'll save it for the "special someone," you know [16:00] <madtux> we'll see if you say the same thing with a sexy girl over you BEGIN for it [16:03] <blindcoder> probably not :D [16:06] <daja77> every girl is a special someone in that case ... [16:10] <madtux> :) [16:14] [anders2] (~snafu@82-68-84-60.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: "Mesen orrrf..." [16:14] treo (~xfman@D842b.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:16] [anders2] (~snafu@82-68-84-60.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [16:48] <fake> moin [16:49] <daja77> moin fake [16:56] Action: fake calling t-com [16:56] <fake> great,,, jingle... welcome message.... ..... nothing ..... .... hangup. [16:57] <fake> fuck [16:57] <fake> i thought getting additional MSN's was free for up to 10 [16:58] <fake> but since 2004 it costs 10 EUR / MSN [16:58] <daja77> huh? [16:58] <fake> idiots [17:02] <netrunner> fake: only once? [17:03] <netrunner> fake: may I suggest taking arcor? they offer flat phone and dsl for the price of the base fee of T [17:07] <fake> netrunner: once, yes. but me baka could have ordered it a year ago... [17:07] <fake> netrunner: i hate T for service and fees, but once they got everything fixed, they're pretty reliable [17:07] <fake> netrunner: besides, i don't have to pay it ;)) [17:13] <blindcoder> back [17:13] <netrunner> front [17:13] <blindcoder> side [17:14] <netrunner> touch! [17:14] <netrunner> :) [17:14] <blindcoder> who? where? [17:16] <mnemoc> blindcoder: congratulation for your new baby :) [17:16] <madtux> 0_o [17:17] <netrunner> blindcoder: ?? daddy blindy? [17:17] <mnemoc> his svnwiki to documentate rock [17:17] <mnemoc> :p [17:17] <blindcoder> :) [17:17] <madtux> mnemoc: you DON'T paly with people's emotions like that [17:17] <madtux> play* [17:17] <blindcoder> madtux: so, how _do_ you play with people's emotions? [17:18] <madtux> blindcoder: i don't :) [17:18] <blindcoder> good boy :) [17:18] <madtux> i'm a nice guy [17:18] <blindcoder> yeah, I noticed that a long time ago [17:19] <madtux> oh. [17:19] <madtux> mm.. danke. ;-) [17:19] <mnemoc> cutetux :) [17:19] <madtux> (i guess) [17:19] <mnemoc> tinytux? [17:20] <madtux> mnemoc: so that how you call ur little friend huh? :) [17:20] <madtux> i still don't have a friend for my own [17:20] <madtux> a name* [17:20] Action: madtux coredumping [17:20] <mnemoc> err [17:21] <madtux> i need coffee brb [17:21] <netrunner> *ROFL* https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Living/story?id=235788&page=1 [17:21] <netrunner> not that I needed such an device, but the idea of a remote control ... [17:22] <netrunner> think about finding out the frequency of your co-worker ... :) [17:22] <madtux> omfg :) [17:23] <netrunner> bbl, going home, getting some guests to party :) [17:24] <blindcoder> okay, I just added links to ROCKDoc and ROCK Sonar to the Documentation part of the ROCK website [17:24] <madtux> guests.. [17:24] <blindcoder> madtux: yes. other people call them girls for wild orgies :D [17:24] <madtux> mm... in the tourism industry they use the term "guests" to define sex girls [17:24] <madtux> :) [17:25] <madtux> blindcoder: we are in the same frequency i guess :) [17:25] <madtux> oh yeah.. thats probably because we celebrate our bday at the same time [17:25] <madtux> :) [17:38] ojh (~omer@67-42-198-16.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:38] <blindcoder> madtux: indeed, indeed :) [17:39] <madtux> :) [17:39] <blindcoder> the stars are at fault [17:40] <fake> blindcoder: i broke it all [17:40] <fake> ;-) [17:41] <ojh> Hello. I have some questions about writing 'desc' and 'conf' files for adding packages. [17:41] esden (~esden@p50804D7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Computer goes to sleep!" [17:41] Action: fake back later, going to buy a 160G 7.200RPM SATA hard drive... muahaha [17:41] <blindcoder> fake: yeah, thought so :) [17:41] <blindcoder> fake: have fun :) [17:41] <fake> i will! [17:43] <ojh> I want to build the 0.40 version of Inkscape but it equires a 'libgc' that by default trys to overwrite headder files provided by gcc. Of course ROCK stops such foolishness. How can I pass a custom install prefix using the '.conf' file? [17:44] <blindcoder> ojh: that's easy: [17:44] <blindcoder> ojh: just add - for example - prefix="/opt/libgc" [17:44] <blindcoder> ojh: in the conf file [17:44] <blindcoder> eh [17:45] <blindcoder> prefix="opt/libgc" [17:45] <blindcoder> this way [17:45] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAB825.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:46] <ojh> I added that line and am re-Emerging . . . [17:47] <ojh> But this could be a bit, I'm also emerging WINE right now too . . . [17:47] tcr_ (~tcr@pD9EAB825.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:48] tcr_ (~tcr@pD9EAB825.dip.t-dialin.net) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [17:48] <tcr> th: ping? [17:50] <ojh> My build of libgc failed :( i got: [17:50] <ojh> !> Found shared files with other packages: [17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc.h: gcc3 libgc [17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc_cpp.h: gcc3 libgc [17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc_local_alloc.h: gcc3 libgc [17:50] <ojh> !> usr/include/gc_pthread_redirects.h: gcc3 libgc [17:51] <ojh> Any thoughts on what went wrong? [17:51] <mnemoc> rock-2.0? [17:52] <ojh> Yes 2.0 [17:53] <ojh> My log shows for the configure: [17:53] <ojh> Running ./configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --enable-libpam --enable-pam --build=i386-unknown-linux-gnu --host=i386-unknown-linux-gnu --enable-cplusplus [17:53] Action: madtux feel a flood [17:53] <ojh> So it ignored the prefix directive [17:54] <blindcoder> just a moment [17:54] <ojh> THX [17:54] <mnemoc> lunch :) [17:54] <blindcoder> oh [17:54] <blindcoder> # This function sets the 'confopt' and some other variables. [17:54] <blindcoder> # Re-run it in the package .conf file if you modify $prefix [17:54] <blindcoder> that's why :) [17:54] <blindcoder> ojh: try this: [17:55] <blindcoder> if [ $prefix_auto = 1 ] ; then [17:55] <blindcoder> prefix="opt/libgc" [17:55] <blindcoder> set_confopt [17:55] <blindcoder> fi [17:55] <mnemoc> when did you introduced libgc on 2.0? [17:56] <mnemoc> bbl [17:56] <ojh> After syncing with the package tree using Subversion. [17:57] <ojh> Attempting the emerge again [17:57] <th> tcr: what's up? [17:59] <tcr> th: the /etc/profile that comes with Rock sets INPUTRC automatically to /etc/inputrc. I'd favor dispatching on the condition if $HOME/.inputc exists or not. [18:00] <tcr> ~/.inputrc of course. [18:01] <ojh> blindcoder: OK, the prefix directive was set correctly but the libgc build ignored it :/ [18:01] <ojh> Messy . . . [18:03] <blindcoder> ojh: then it's off to some Makefile patching :) [18:04] <tcr> th: What d'ya think? [18:06] <ojh> Yes it is . . . . thanks for the help :) [18:10] <blindcoder> ojh: you're welcome (also to write down your experience in the newly-created-and-thus-nearly-empty-rock-documentation-wiki :) [18:12] <ojh> Oh, wait it DID install in /opt/libgc but still gave errors about overwritong files in /usr . . . [18:13] <blindcoder> ojh: ah yes [18:13] <blindcoder> ojh: you didn't remove libgc before reemerging? [18:13] <ojh> And proped metadata generated in /var/adm [18:14] <ojh> blindcoder: oh, I see . . . needed to 'mine -r libgc' first . . . [18:14] <blindcoder> ojh: Emerge-Pkg actually calls Build-Pkg -update wich _does_ _not_ delete existing files nor overwrite files whose content changed [18:15] <blindcoder> ojh: for that reason the old flist is attached to the new one [18:15] <ojh> blindcoder: I'll do it cleanly then. [18:18] <ojh> blindcoder: Is there a site for optional and user contrib build scripts? [18:18] <blindcoder> ojh: just submit it to submaster [18:19] <ojh> blindcoder: I have a number of custom scripts completed, 9 packages to date :) [18:19] <blindcoder> ojh: detailed information on submitting patches: https://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/SubmittingPatches [18:19] <ojh> THX, latter :) [18:19] <blindcoder> brb telephone [18:19] ojh (~omer@67-42-198-16.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [18:19] ojh (~omer@67-42-198-16.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:20] ojh (~omer@67-42-198-16.eugn.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [18:23] <th> tcr: i did not know about inputrc up to now [18:33] <tcr> th: :), So? [18:33] <th> tcr: i agree to you. [18:46] <blindcoder> bah, parents [18:46] <blindcoder> talking and talking and talking and ... [18:53] <fake> yes.... hardware... *HARR* [18:55] <blindcoder> fake's getting a kick of his new toy :) [18:55] <fake> harr harr harr [18:55] <fake> that's a harddrive for real men! [18:56] <blindcoder> bah, I'd also need a new harddrive after my old burnt out with almost 31337 errors [18:56] <fake> blindcoder: they're rather cheap now... [18:57] <blindcoder> fake: cheap or not doesn't matter if you lack the money for it [18:57] <blindcoder> well, I'm still waiting for 500 EUR so I just have to sit back and wait :) [18:59] <blindcoder> damn, I need a new anime to watch [18:59] <blindcoder> now that I've seen all of Ranma [19:02] <tcr> fake: Which one? [19:04] <netrunner> uah chaos here. [19:05] <netrunner> 3 girls in my kitchen cooking chinese food [19:06] <blindcoder> netrunner: you're free to give'em to me :D [19:10] <fake> tcr: samsung datalux [19:14] lewellyn (~mjl@lewellyn.silver.supporter.pdpc) joined #rocklinux. [19:53] <daja77> re [20:15] <lewellyn> re [20:16] <blindcoder> deer [20:17] <madtux> bier! [20:17] <lewellyn> mmm... beer... [20:17] <madtux> :) [20:17] <lewellyn> can't drink yet. it's too early... [20:17] <lewellyn> "you aren't an alcoholic till you start before noon!" ;) [20:19] <blindcoder> lewellyn: well, last friday I had two beer at 9 AM :/ [20:19] <blindcoder> does that count? [20:19] <lewellyn> dunno. i don't make the rules, i just break them. [20:20] <lewellyn> i look at it this way: "it's always midnight somewhere in the world!" :) [20:20] <blindcoder> hehe [20:28] treo (~xfman@D842b.d.pppool.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] <fake> hi lewellyn [20:34] <lewellyn> hoi fake [20:38] Action: fake writing emails to a plant [20:38] <fake> https://angelika.endicor.de/ [20:39] <blindcoder> d'oh [20:39] <daja77> hehe fyou fell in love with her? [20:39] <blindcoder> I thought you meant a power plant :) [20:42] <blindcoder> hmm [20:42] <blindcoder> mailinglist have been relatively quiet this month [20:43] <blindcoder> less than half as last month [20:45] <owl> re [20:46] <blindcoder> wb owly [20:48] <owl> thx blindy [20:50] <daja77> damn it, whats the name of the dvd descrambling lib? [20:50] <blindcoder> decss? [20:51] <daja77> grep -r decss package, returned no hits [20:51] <blindcoder> libcss and libdvdcss found [20:51] <daja77> ah [20:51] <daja77> thx [20:54] <daja77> *grmpf* doesn't build on crystal like mplay due linux26-headers [20:57] <blindcoder> ehm... in a language that I understand? [20:58] <daja77> In file included from /usr/include/asm/byteorder.h:57, [20:58] <daja77> from /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:14, [20:58] <daja77> from ioctl.c:63: [20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:43: error: parse error before "__cpu_to_le64p" [20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h: In function `__cpu_to_le64p': [20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:45: error: `__le64' undeclared (first use in this function) [20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:45: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once [20:58] <daja77> /usr/include/linux/byteorder/little_endian.h:45: error: for each function it appears in.) [20:58] <daja77> better? [20:58] <blindcoder> much better :) [20:59] <blindcoder> return(0); [20:59] <daja77> sucks [21:00] <blindcoder> guess I'll go to bed now. Have a few books to read :) [21:00] <blindcoder> bye [21:01] <daja77> n8 blindcoder [21:02] <daja77> i hate it [21:02] <daja77> https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+2.6.9+header+sanitize&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr= [21:21] <fake> it's working... dabdidabdidu [21:22] Action: daja77 screaming around [21:30] <daja77> hm why are we using kernel headers instead of glibc headers [21:34] <fake> daja77: *we* arent [21:35] <daja77> i see that, but why [21:36] <lewellyn> i think daja77 mean the "collective we" [21:36] <fake> damn, this hard drive is *fast* [21:37] <fake> daja is #77 of 230945808984390284 ? [21:37] <fake> ;) [21:37] <daja77> O_o [21:37] <fake> daja77: becuase some information in the kernelheaders isn't replicated in glibc [21:38] <fake> and people don't want to copy over and ship kernel headers for some reason [21:38] <daja77> and the kernel headers are breaking apps [21:38] <fake> no the apps are broken [21:38] <daja77> right [21:38] <fake> the kernel header problem is that they are intended to be used only by the kernel [21:38] <daja77> i know all that stuff [21:38] <fake> so it's their proclaimed right to change whatever they want [21:39] <fake> as long as the kernel compiles and works, it's fine [21:39] <daja77> thing is that i just wanted to work a bit on rock, in the few minutes i have for rock, and that crap is stealing my time [21:39] <fake> i think they're doing it on purpose, at least a bit, so app developers begin thinking twice about including kernel headers [21:40] <lewellyn> fake: unfortunately, it will make even fewer distros be "supported" [21:40] <daja77> think so, yes [21:40] <lewellyn> "sorry, it only works on XXX and YYY. ZZZ will no longer be supported. everything else will not work." [21:41] <lewellyn> vmware is bad enough about that [21:41] <daja77> sometimes linxu just sucks [21:42] <fake> vmware? [21:42] <fake> the only problem i have with vmware is it insisting on the old dev layout [21:42] <lewellyn> fake: like bochs, but not. :) [21:42] <lewellyn> oh. my issue with vmware is that their first question is "what distro do you use?" [21:42] <daja77> yeah [21:43] <lewellyn> as soon as it's not one of the dozen or so versions they support, it's automatically a distro problem [21:43] <fake> that's mostly because of the differen init.d / rc?.d locations [21:43] <lewellyn> last time, when vmware crashed and i couldn't start my vms, i wouldn't let them get away with that [21:43] <lewellyn> got a nice explanation of their locking mechanism, at least :) [21:44] <fake> you called support and spoke to a techie? [21:44] <lewellyn> they call me :) [21:44] <lewellyn> local call [21:45] <lewellyn> most of their guys are pretty clueless, though. [21:45] <lewellyn> i'm sure i've ranted about vmware support in here. [21:46] <lewellyn> i really need to add a few more sticks of ram to this box, though. it doesn't run well when i have 3-4 VMs running [21:46] <fake> hm... why so many VMs ? [21:47] <lewellyn> need to test on all flavors of windows [21:48] <fake> wine ;-))) [21:49] <fake> lookandfeel=win31/win95/win98/win2k/winxp ;) [21:50] <lewellyn> but it's not really win95/95a/95b/95c/98/98se/2k/2ksp1/2ksp3/2ksp4/me/xp/spsp2... [21:50] <lewellyn> when a client reports a specific behavior, we need to be able to duplicate it. [21:51] <lewellyn> ideally, we'd like to see it beforehand [21:51] <lewellyn> so they don't :) [21:56] <lewellyn> i mean, i *could* install crossover linux and install most of the required apps. but it's still not going to be the same as doing things on a native os. [21:56] <lewellyn> in some respects, wine is a better windows than windows. (on both edges of the sword) [21:56] <fake> sure. [21:57] <fake> i used vmware a lot, too, when i was working for a non-exclusively-unix company [21:58] treo (~xfman@D842b.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [21:58] Action: daja77 avoids wine whenever possible [21:59] <fake> yes, but unfortunately vmware's directx/ogl support is no match for wine [21:59] <lewellyn> i don't need such things :) [21:59] <fake> the only reason i have wine is Battlefield Vietnam ;) [22:00] <daja77> O_o [22:00] <lewellyn> i mostly need outlook and a few browsers :) [22:00] <fake> a match a month or so [22:07] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:09] SerWou (~SerWou@82.224.107.105) joined #rocklinux. [22:09] esden (~esden@p50804D7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [22:10] <esden> Very nice big bunch of work done today ;) [22:10] <esden> re hi sbtw [22:10] <madtux> wow esden is here again [22:10] <madtux> hello esdy [22:10] <esden> ack [22:10] <esden> seems so ;) [22:10] Action: esden packing up his stuff to go home [22:11] <esden> so I thought I take a look what is going on here ;) [22:11] <madtux> IN ? [22:11] <esden> nono ... work -> cell in munich ;) [22:12] <madtux> Jak sie masz? [22:12] <esden> dobrze dziekuje ;) [22:13] <esden> you seem to learn polish? [22:13] <madtux> Nie mowie po polsku :( [22:14] <madtux> but i'm trying to learn yes [22:14] <madtux> :) [22:14] <esden> that is still more then I can say in chinese ;) [22:14] <madtux> but less than what u can say in spanish [22:15] <esden> I would not bet on that ;) [22:15] <madtux> :P [22:15] <esden> my spanish is very very rusty! [22:15] <esden> damn cold!!! [22:15] <esden> I hate it [22:15] <madtux> after a few beers it will be perfect [22:15] <lewellyn> mas tequila! [22:15] <lewellyn> the two words everyone here knows ;) [22:16] <madtux> esden: since you are packing maybe u just want to come straigh here? [22:16] <madtux> :) [22:16] <esden> beer ... or tequila ... very nice idea [22:16] <madtux> there is better stuff than tequila [22:16] <esden> I think I need some medicine when I am at home ;) [22:16] <madtux> but u need to be hispanic to actually know it :) [22:16] <madtux> u need no medicine.. u need tequila [22:16] <madtux> right lewellyn ? [22:16] <esden> it is alcohol ... that is medicine for a cold [22:17] <madtux> :P [22:17] <esden> it kills all bacteria very well ;) [22:17] <madtux> good point [22:17] <lewellyn> madtux: exactly [22:19] hannes_ (ucbiv@rzstud3.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) joined #rocklinux. [22:19] <hannes_> hi [22:19] <esden> hi hannes! [22:19] <madtux> lo [22:20] Action: esden *TROOOOOT* [22:20] <esden> DAMN COLD [22:20] <lewellyn> it's cold here, too [22:20] <esden> I really can start working as truck trumpet ;) [22:20] <lewellyn> think our high is only 60F today ;) [22:20] <madtux> 23C here :) [22:21] <madtux> maybe 24 [22:21] <madtux> :) [22:21] <madtux> lewellyn: from us i asume? [22:21] <madtux> US* [22:21] <esden> madtux: I hate you!!! [22:21] <mnemoc> 28C here :) [22:21] <madtux> esden: why would u hate me? [22:21] <madtux> mnemoc: thats too hot for me [22:21] <madtux> :) [22:21] <esden> because of the temperature >_< [22:21] <lewellyn> oops. 55F [22:22] <lewellyn> mad: yes [22:22] <madtux> esden: would u like me to take a picture outside for u ? [22:22] <lewellyn> https://www.crh.noaa.gov/forecasts/CAZ006.php?warncounty=CAC075&city=San+Francisco [22:22] <mnemoc> yesterday it was 34C plus 38% of humidity :\ stinks [22:22] <esden> no thanks that would kill me probably [22:22] <lewellyn> 10C outside [22:22] <madtux> lewellyn: easy to find out.. everyone else here speaks of celcius [22:22] <lewellyn> madtux: yes, as does most of the sane world :D [22:23] <lewellyn> esden: how cold is cold there? [22:23] <SMP> lewellyn: probably close to 0 [22:23] <esden> ok ... I take my protel 99 book with me and go home ... to do some reading and learning ;) [22:23] <mnemoc> thunderbirs' plugin on weather.com says F as 'Standard', and C as 'Metric' [22:24] <lewellyn> mnemoc: that's because weather.com is a bunch of capitalist american pigs ;) [22:24] <treo> gn8 [22:24] <lewellyn> adios esden [22:24] <lewellyn> treo: you leaving too? [22:24] <esden> adios everyone [22:24] <madtux> mnemoc: well i was in hell.. [22:24] <treo> yes ^^ [22:24] <madtux> esden: good night my friend [22:24] esden (~esden@p50804D7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left #rocklinux. [22:24] treo (~xfman@D842b.d.pppool.de) left irc: "cya@all" [22:24] <mnemoc> madtux: you are the devil, you live there :) [22:24] <madtux> mnemoc: at Manaus, Amazonas, i was at an Avg og 45C 90% humidity [22:25] <mnemoc> _O [22:25] <lewellyn> night treo [22:25] <mnemoc> o_O [22:26] <madtux> mnemoc: the scary thing is that i met a guy there who said that it was too cold for him, that his town up north was MUCH hotter than that [22:26] <tcr> lewellyn, Cold enough that I dare to go out with mantel and shawl only. [22:26] <madtux> i wouldn't dare to go to that town. [22:27] <tcr> Icy wind we have from time to time. [22:28] <mnemoc> madtux: are those humans? [22:28] <tcr> madtux, Could it be that that guy was horned and had a small goatbeard? [22:30] <madtux> tcr: maybe his son or so [22:30] <madtux> mnemoc: i doub so [22:33] <tcr> I think it's all about habit; people do even get accustomed to Windows, so you see what's possible. [22:39] <mnemoc> hehe [22:40] <madtux> yes thats true [22:43] SteffenP (~steffen@port-212-202-202-108.dynamic.qsc.de) joined #rocklinux. [22:43] <SteffenP> hi all [22:43] <fake> hi SteffenP [22:44] <hannes_> hi SteffenP [22:44] <SteffenP> hi fake, hannes_ and all the others [23:01] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:01] praenti (~praenti@mail.obster.org) joined #rocklinux. [23:20] <daja77> erh someone got ffmpeg compiled without that stupid message [23:20] <daja77> The Postprocessing code is under GPL and --enable-gpl is not specified [23:22] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAB825.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:26] <daja77> ok patch is out [23:35] rockbot joined #rocklinux. 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