[00:07] gnu n8! [00:19] hannes_: nopch da? [00:19] groff won't compile [00:19] better the groff documentation makes problems [00:37] someone here who might can help me? [00:37] with the groff problem? [00:41] huhu? [00:51] moin! [00:56] hi mnemoc [00:57] can you help me? because i have a problem compiling the groff packet [00:58] query me your last 10 lines of src.groff.foo/ERROR-LOG [00:59] moment [01:00] GROFF_COMMAND_PREFIX=''; export GROFF_COMMAND_PREFIX; GROFF_BIN_PATH=`echo /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/roff/groff /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/roff/troff /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/preproc/pic /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/preproc/eqn /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/preproc/tbl /ROCK/src.grof [01:00] f.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/preproc/grn /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/preproc/refer /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/preproc/soelim /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/preproc/html /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/devices/grops /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/devices/grohtml | sed -e 's| *|:| [01:00] g'`; export GROFF_BIN_PATH; sed -e "s;@VERSION@;1.19;" pic.ms | /ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/src/roff/groff/groff -M/ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/tmac -M/ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/tmac -F/ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/font -F/ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/font -Upet [01:00] -ww -Tps -ms -mwww >pic.ps [01:00] :432: warning: closing delimiter does not match [01:00] :0: macro error: diversion open while ejecting page (recovering) [01:01] make[2]: *** [pic.ps] Error 2 [01:01] make[2]: Leaving directory `/ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19/doc' [01:01] make[1]: *** [doc] Error 2 [01:01] query! :D [01:01] make[1]: Leaving directory `/ROCK/src.groff.1102034966.12073.3142288416/groff-1.19' [01:01] make: *** [all] Error 2 [01:01] --- BUILD ERROR --- [01:01] sorry.. [01:01] i forgot to put it in the query. [01:01] you want it now still in the query [01:01] ? [01:01] no tahnks [01:01] oky [01:02] i think i saw this before [01:02] wasn't that due to over-optimizing groff? [01:02] hmm.. [01:02] (on athlon* and pmmx optimization this doesn't occur) [01:03] i have P4 [01:03] and i enabled it. [01:03] can i disable it for one single packet? [01:03] package.. [01:04] you may need to do a .conf hack to disable / reduce opt for a single package [01:04] wait [01:04] why do i write package always wrong. [01:04] ahh i'll can i just do it with going into package/base/groff and editing there some lines? [01:05] oky i'll wait [01:05] (hi fake! :-) [01:05] can you put things like that somewhere on the webpage? [01:06] i mean a list of packages and with the problems you might can get? [01:06] open package/base/groff/groff.conf [01:06] at the very bottom, add [01:06] var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " '-march=* -mcpu=* -O -O[0-9s]' [01:06] this builds groff un-optimized [01:06] shouldn't hit you hard performance-wise [01:07] oky i will try [01:07] but now i get this too: [01:07] WARNING: Found Documentation/./.BUILD.swp [01:07] WARNING: Found package/./x11/xorg/changeProjectRoot.patch-x [01:07] when i do a ./script/Cleanup [01:07] please report your results, this is a dry exercise ;) [01:07] i didn't had it befor [01:08] nevermind [01:08] i'll report [01:08] moment [01:08] .BUILD.swp is a file left over from a vim you killed or still have open ;) [01:09] hmmm .. moment.. i guess i had some vims open wait [01:10] those warnings aren't fatal [01:10] anyways [01:10] oky nevermind i still had the Docfiles open. [01:12] oky again same error [01:12] damn [01:12] wait [01:13] hmmm [01:13] can you paste me a random line from the middle of src.groff.foo/cmd_wrapper.log ? [01:14] 2 lines, to be exact [01:14] a - and a + line [01:14] moment [01:17] just one set of these both? [01:17] - gcc-34 -g -O2 -o pfbtops pfbtops.o /ROCK/src.groff.1102036097.31898.1192111091/groff-1.19/src/libs/libgroff/libgroff.a -lm [01:17] + gcc-34 -Os -pipe -march=pentium4 -o pfbtops pfbtops.o /ROCK/src.groff.1102036097.31898.1192111091/groff-1.19/src/libs/libgroff/libgroff.a -lm -s [01:17] it looks like a patch diff dile [01:17] err file [01:18] argh! [01:18] and the optimation is still active [01:18] damn, that -march=pentium4 shouldn't be there anymore [01:18] make the line you added to groff.conf to: [01:18] var_append GCC_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " '-march=pentium4' [01:19] (ugly, but should work) [01:19] oky i'll try [01:20] you may enable CMD_WRAPPER debugging fag [01:20] flag* [01:20] hmm how do i do that? over the config? [01:20] somewhere? [01:21] mom [01:22] at the moment i can't see any -march=pentuim4 in the 3-groff.out log [01:22] you wont [01:22] only at cmd_wrapper.log [01:23] again.. [01:24] ohh oky moment [01:24] but same error.. [01:24] can'T the problem be in pic? [01:24] SteffenP: run ./debug.sh from src.groff.foo [01:24] moment [01:25] yep i have [01:25] cd gro* [01:25] ? [01:25] i mean groff-somthing? [01:26] oky i am in.. [01:26] cap (~cap@p213.54.83.78.tisdip.tiscali.de) joined #rocklinux. [01:26] what does cmd_wrapper.log say now? [01:26] export GCC__WRAPPER_DEBUG=1 [01:26] is the -march crap still in there? [01:26] export GCC_WRAPPER_DEBUG=1 [01:27] fake yes it is. [01:27] and run make all [01:27] hrmpf [01:27] Action: fake stoopid [01:28] fake: ? [01:28] make that line in the .conf [01:28] var_append GCC3_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " '-march=pentium4' [01:28] ohh i should have said, make is going to work there but stops with another error.. a diffrent one.. after this [01:28] architecture/x86/gcc-options sets GCC3* [01:28] i can do another make and it runs fine. [01:28] but a make clean ; make all gives me the first error [01:28] fake: doesn't GCC_ affect every gcc wrapper? [01:29] the one which abborts the build [01:29] moment [01:29] mnemoc: i thought so... [01:29] cap (~cap@p213.54.83.78.tisdip.tiscali.de) left #rocklinux. [01:29] if not, it is a bug [01:29] yes [01:30] mnemoc: hmm the same error.. [01:30] ohh i made a make clean [01:30] before i did a make all [01:31] hmm same error.. fake i will try now the other line [01:31] SteffenP: ./debug.sh gives you the same enviroment that Build-Pkg use, so you can run specific tests [01:32] SteffenP: my line was to enlarge log info [01:32] SteffenP: not to fix anything [01:33] mnemoc: yeah i have seen in the beginning of the compilation that there was something with deleting ... and inserting parameters... and new command is.. gcc something [01:34] your goal is to have the -march=... removed in cmd_wrapper.log [01:35] good luck - i have a lot of other stuff to do right now and can't test this enough to give you qualified directions.. mayeb wake up hannes, he's sleeping too much anyways *g* [01:35] hehe [01:35] same error [01:36] i have to study for an important exam right now :( [01:36] moment [01:36] fake well it's still in there [01:36] SteffenP: using ./debug.sh and _WRAPPER_DEBUG env var you can see what the wrapper is doing and why it's not removing -march [01:37] i'll try [01:37] moment [01:38] Insert: -Os [01:38] Insert: -pipe [01:38] Insert: -march=pentium4 [01:38] this is what i see there [01:38] so it is still present. [01:39] SteffenP: var_remove GCC3_WRAPPER_INSERT '-march=[^ ]*' [01:39] or var_remove GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT '-march=[^ ]*' if that doesn't work [01:39] fake: i remember now [01:40] fake: REMOVE only removes strings from command line [01:40] mnemoc: yes! of course! argh! [01:40] mea maxima culpa... [01:40] are you sure it's not var_remove_regex ? [01:41] is there a documentation of all these things? [01:41] fake: right :) [01:42] so i have to use var_remove_regex? [01:42] yes [01:42] var_remove_regex [01:42] because it's a regex :) [01:42] == 12/03/04 02:42:05 =[3]=> Finished building package groff. [01:42] tada [01:43] :D [01:43] weee! [01:44] GCC3_ o GCC_ ? [01:44] thanks all.. i just included both :o) [01:44] should i try it with only one? [01:44] so you'll know for sure? [01:45] SteffenP: https://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/ [01:45] try GCC_ [01:45] and if you feel generous write something on the new wiki about it :) [01:46] :) hmm i'm bad at writing.. but where should i put it .. or can you make there a page for Problems/Hints [01:47] moment [01:48] just create a page and call it 'collation of topics' or so [01:50] well i could put there that it was impossible to build on Debian.. [01:50] because i tried it yesterday and gave up.. on this [01:51] SteffenP: you could have asked for help :) [01:52] mnemoc: i did i asked hannes.. and even he didn't know what went wrong.. all we know it had to do with the ./debug.sh environment ... [01:52] the error and by the way the only error was: dl_open can't find something.. [01:53] i guess debian uses to much dynmic librarys and all this.. [01:53] vi and co didn't wanted to work no more [01:54] oky i have to add both GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT and GCC3_* [01:54] both? [01:55] i've tried first only GCC_* [01:55] didn't worked [01:55] now i tried with the GCC3_* [01:55] didn't worked and now both again [01:55] didn't work.. [01:55] arrgh [01:55] var_remove_regex GCC_WRAPPER_INSERT '-march=[^ ]*' [01:56] aren't you missing the delimiter? [01:56] moment.. can it be that i need maybe i did something worg. [01:57] fake: true [01:57] how did it worked before? [01:58] i had all diffrent versions you both told me in the conf file [01:58] :o) [01:58] :p [01:58] and i removed not the right ones.. moment [01:58] maybe now it will work [01:59] mnemoc: are you aware that openldap is broken in trunk? [01:59] oh [02:00] no idea, i have never build trunk [02:00] okay, i'll fix it ;) [02:00] =) [02:00] only this line: var_remove GCC3_WRAPPER_INSERT '-march=[^ ]*' [02:00] is needed [02:00] o_O [02:10] i'll now try to add one page about compiling problems.. [02:15] so the other is there have to be a page about how to install / download a package.. and how to remove i will write just a few little lines.. but someone with a better english that me will have to redoo this [02:16] SteffenP: you, a user, are the best person to write about that [02:17] SteffenP: our view of the 'problem' is far diffrent, and tend to be useless for users [02:17] :o) [02:18] look at the handbook :\ [02:18] how you call the system you're building the rock thing first? [02:19] like i had problem in debian which had only to do with the debian system. [02:19] host? [02:21] hmmmm... well maybe oky.. i will see [02:51] mnemoc: the last line in openldap.conf just needed some un-commenting and an additional '2' ;) [02:52] good :) [02:52] rehi [02:52] puhh it is not as easy to write something.. [02:52] hehe [02:52] hi hannes_ [02:53] hi SteffenP [02:53] Action: hannes_ is still fighting with selinux-policies and flex :/ [02:53] moin hannes_ *g* [02:53] why are you smiling, fake? [02:54] hannes_: ähmm shouldn't you already be in bed sleeping or so? [02:56] i just have lectures from 8:00 to 9:30 and than weekend starts! [02:56] hannes_: madtux is highly involved on selinux, maybe he can give you a hand [02:57] mnemoc: that would be cool [02:59] hannes_: it's all your fault.. i haven't done a bit on my game.. [02:59] SteffenP: you are infected with the rock-linux-virus ;) [03:00] hannes_: well at the moment i try to write a page for the handbook.. [03:01] so others who just started with Rock will have it a bit easyer.. [03:02] that's nice [03:10] nullslack (~nullslack@203.131.109.114) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:16] nullslack (~nullslack@203.131.109.114) joined #rocklinux. [03:20] sind die var_ [03:20] sry [03:39] gnu n8! [03:41] n8! [04:06] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-152-116.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:07] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-131.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:07] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [04:21] https://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/CompilingProblems <--- here first version.. but i don't know.. i hope someone will go over it.. because i'm bad in english [04:21] and some thing i knew what was happen but i didn't know the name and how it worked in the thing.. maybe can rewrite it in a better way [04:22] SteffenP: that's the good of wikis, everyone has power [04:23] i know.. [04:23] tzz not even my game had such a good troubleshooting page.. :o) [04:23] hehe [04:23] that's a funny page [04:24] why funny? [04:24] The CmdWrapper? is something unknown (for the guy who wrote this page here) [04:24] *laughes* [04:24] i just put in words what i knew .. [04:24] excellent [04:24] hannes said he will write tomorrow a page about the cmd_wrapper [04:25] CmdWrapper :) [04:25] yep somehow it is possible as soon as someone write something about the cmdwrapper that there will be the text cmd_wrapper [04:26] like the one text "Which Tree Do I Have" [04:26] there you can give the text a name.. [04:26] that's great [04:26] a normal one.. [04:27] does anyone here have problems with linux-2.6.9 and responsiveness on IDE access? [04:27] Action: SteffenP used 2.6.8 in debian.. [04:27] 2.6.8.1 :) [04:28] so i can't say anything. [04:28] Action: fake considers downgrading... [04:28] what about 2.6.10-rc ? [04:28] 2.6.10-rc2 is (besides that) pretty stable, though [04:28] ;) [04:28] =) [04:28] hmmm ohh and who is working on the network scripts... is there a normal easy way to add a network device with only ipx? [04:29] SteffenP: you may need to add an ipx module for rocknet [04:29] hmmmm.. rocknet.... oky i will look at this tomorrow.. [04:29] at last i want my Descent2 game running here.. [04:30] descent2 - i remember that... [04:30] i was too stupid to get used to the controls [04:30] always rammed walls and stuff [04:31] hmmm.. i love this game.. it's great i still drive from ingolstadt to luebeck every year once or twice.. :) [04:31] jups to play this game on a lan.. :) [04:32] you're from ingolstadt? [04:33] yep. [04:33] well i live here.. but i am not from here.. :) [04:34] now that's interesting. [04:34] <- from ingolstadt, too [04:34] yes i know.. Hannes told me.. [04:35] :) [04:35] hrmpf. [04:36] ? [04:36] evolution 2.0.2 works great - as long as you dont' try to open the settings dialogue [04:37] Action: SteffenP uses slypheed-gtk2 [04:37] evolution is to big as to be a single email client :o) [04:39] yes. but i need some application feeding my ldap-server and sycronizing my appointments with my cellphone ;) [04:40] hmmm as long as the puk-5 usb wire from nokia isn't supported i won't need it.. [04:40] do you use Xorg? [04:40] i need someone who can test something [04:41] i have xorg running currently, yes [04:41] ohh and sdl installed? [04:41] sure [04:41] ahh.. moment [04:41] but no xdamage/xwhateverstupidextension runnin [04:41] *running [04:42] https://stpohle.dyndns.org/bomberclonefiles/bomberclone-0.11.4test2.tar.gz [04:42] try if you can run it.. [04:43] compile and run [04:43] usually it should work.. but hannes uses Xorg too and there i got a crash. [04:43] wait [04:43] oky only the game segfault [04:43] bomberclone? [04:43] yes [04:43] get a faster link... [04:43] *g* [04:43] yours? [04:44] yes [04:44] but 0.11.3 and 0.11.4 are still not working as good as i want. [04:44] =D [04:45] well i made too much changes from 0.11.2 to 0.11.3 so there showed up alot of little problems [04:46] looks cool! [04:47] well the network part is working so it's quite fun.. if all the little bug wheren't [04:48] there is no perfect software :) [04:49] yeah.. i wanted to have support that the server can leave the game and the people can still play.. and i almost have it that way.. but this change mixed up too much my network code.. [04:49] 54%... [04:49] ohh so slow [04:49] i have nothing going on here.. my network should be free [04:49] SteffenP: why don't you use sourceforge structure to distribute it? [04:50] hey how often will gcc and glibc compiled.. it's the 3 or 4th time.. [04:50] mnemoc: i use. [04:50] but the version fake is downloading is still testing. [04:50] SteffenP: why don't you use sourceforge structure to distribute it? :) [04:51] so from sf you can only download 0.11.3 and thats it. [04:51] i hope in one week or so i will have a new version.. but i don't think so [04:51] SteffenP: ~12K/s [04:52] outch [04:52] hmm.. [04:52] hrmpf. koffice now depends on python. great. [04:52] Action: SteffenP wants a faster connection [04:54] hmm.. [04:54] does anyone use nfs there? [04:55] SteffenP: you may be interested in the offers from kabel deutschland [04:55] 4MBit/s down, 521kbit/s up, full flat rate for 99EUR / month [04:55] because a mount gateway:/home /home-gw just stuck [04:55] have you started portmap ? [04:55] what thats all. and aviable here in germany? [04:56] hmmm is it not coming up alone? [04:56] SteffenP: yes, if you have cable [04:56] no, on a rock system: rc portmap start [04:56] ahh oy [04:56] make is running... [04:56] i have cable [04:56] fake ahh oky [04:56] gdb src/bomberclone [04:56] after make [04:57] don't install it [04:57] run [04:57] wait for the crash you will get.. if you get one and then there bt [04:57] oky portmap was missing [04:58] SteffenP: works like a charm [04:58] grmml.. [04:59] no, i guess hannes problem is unrelated. [04:59] it should crash right after you run the game.. [04:59] a patch has gone into rock just recently that fixed a libsdl problem [04:59] that makes it complicated. [04:59] is the crash in SDL_mmx something? [04:59] yep.. even on the mailinglist they didn't know why [04:59] yes it is [04:59] why? [04:59] that's exactly what i fixed. [05:00] ahhh oky [05:00] a patch to make libsdl compile with gcc 3.4.x has caused regressions [05:00] oky good to know [05:06] steffen_ (~steffen@p3E9EA5A9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:06] steffen__ (~steffen@p3E9EA5A9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:07] uhmmm [05:07] stupid reconnect [05:12] steffen_ (~steffen@p3E9EA5A9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:15] so i am now in my bed.. good night all.. [05:16] steffen__ (~steffen@p3E9EA5A9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [05:16] n8! [05:17] n8 fake [05:18] no, not me, to steffen ;) [05:19] :p [05:26] SteffenP (~steffen@p5480431C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:07] nullslack (~nullslack@203.131.109.114) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:24] g'moin [07:31] remoin ;) [07:39] BoS (~BoS@dialin-212-144-072-232.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:43] i have to leave, bye [08:01] Hello the Chan [08:11] moin [08:11] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8DEEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:17] how are blindcoder [08:18] sleepy, thanks. you? [08:18] little bit too, cause my work ake me all my time [08:19] here it's more because of workout :) [08:28] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8D14A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:28] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [08:32] moin [08:36] moin moin [08:45] anybody running 2.4 and want to fix my alsa-driver patch for that? [08:46] Action: netrunner wonders why nobody notices the broken alsa modules in 2.6 [08:46] hum? [08:47] what broken alsa modules? [08:47] works for me in crystal with 2.6 [08:47] no. they install as .o in the /lib/modules/2.6 ... [08:48] oh, sorry, I think I am talking of linux-drm [08:49] I never knew what linux-drm is [08:49] blindcoder: the drivers that enable dri for X in the kernel [08:49] isn't that already part of the kernel? [08:49] so you can run glxgears really fast :) [08:49] no [08:50] well, I'm using nvidia, does that count? [08:50] hm, dunno, think not. [08:51] you use binary drivers? [08:52] sure [08:53] BoS_ (~BoS@dialin-212-144-019-062.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:54] fake: do you happen to use linux-drm? [08:55] no [08:55]