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[00:10] <SteffenP> so i am in my bed good night all [00:10] SteffenP (~steffen@p548040F8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [00:11] <esden> AAAAARGH [00:11] Action: esden kills himself [00:11] <owl> whats wrong, esden ? O_o [00:12] <esden> I am stupid ... nothing else ;) [00:12] <owl> aehm. ok. [00:13] <esden> hrm ... that is not good ... I only wrote 2k lines of code this month [00:13] <esden> last month I wrote 23k lines of code [00:15] <esden> hehe ... in october I wrote 94k lines of code [00:15] <esden> that is cool [00:15] <esden> no ... sorry modified [00:15] <esden> I wrote 85k lines [00:17] <esden> this month I wrote only 993 lines [00:17] <esden> *sigh* :( [00:17] <esden> I somehow like statistics ;) [00:27] <fake> this month is only 8 days old... [00:27] <fake> 8 days and 28 minutes, to be exact [00:27] <esden> yes but it is still not really much ... [00:28] <esden> when you imagine 85k lines written in Oct [00:28] <esden> and 21k in Nov [00:28] <fake> 8 days of 31 is ~ 25 % [00:29] <fake> i predict ~ 4k for dec ;) [00:31] <esden> hehe ;) [00:31] <esden> perhups I should add precent predictions to SVNStat ;) [00:32] <esden> I mean productivity predictions ;) [00:33] <esden> humm ... I wrote 128k lines in the last 4 months when you do not count the current one ... sweet ;) [00:35] <esden> ok ... the missing stuff for svn is now up and running [00:35] <esden> now I can go and meditate over a cigarette [00:35] <esden> but first I need to update my ipod [00:36] <esden> the songs are all converted now [00:37] <fake> hehe [00:41] <owl> gn8 [00:43] <esden> ok ... finished [00:43] <esden> cigarette waiting ;) [00:43] <esden> brb [00:47] <fake> ha! [00:47] <fake> now i know how to paint a selection in gimp [00:47] <fake> cool [00:47] <esden> rj [00:47] <esden> re [00:55] <daja77> re [01:19] <fake> esden: here? [01:20] Action: fake brb [01:20] <esden> fake: yes [02:26] <esden> gn8 everybody [02:43] esden (~esden@p50805029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [04:01] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-101-251.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:02] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-251.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:02] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [05:28] Togg (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:31] Togg (~sweitzel@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) joined #rocklinux. [06:37] nullslack (user34@203.131.109.118) left irc: "Leaving" [07:24] <hannes_> moin [07:31] esden (~esden@p50805029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [07:45] Nick change: Bos^afk -> BoS^home [08:05] esden (~esden@p50805029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:10] <clifford> moin [08:12] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-082-083-046-029.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:15] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8E240.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:15] <hannes_> hi clifford [08:19] <clifford> hi hannes_ [08:19] <hannes_> clifford: perhaps you know the solution [08:19] <hannes_> i have a scipt with paramter a pkg [08:19] <clifford> if you tell me the problem.. [08:19] <hannes_> and how can i get the desc file [08:20] <hannes_> when the pkg is for example linux26-header [08:20] <clifford> so it can be a forked package too.. [08:20] <hannes_> forked pkgs i parse with '=' [08:21] <clifford> only if they are explicitely forked. [08:21] <clifford> linux26-header is a fork of 'linux' [08:21] <hannes_> hmm..ok [08:21] <blindcoder> moin [08:21] <clifford> the package mapper auto-detects that [08:21] <hannes_> can i use it for my own scripts? [08:22] <clifford> di Build-Tools run ? [08:22] <clifford> did. [08:22] <clifford> if so, ". build/$ROCKCFG_ID/ROCK/$toolsdir/lib/pkgmapper" does the magic. [08:22] <blindcoder> wow, I've been three days away from work and everything is in a state of chaos... [08:22] <clifford> if not, it's a bit more complicated. give me a sec. [08:22] <hannes_> no, normally not [08:23] <hannes_> it should work without a build [08:23] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-189-110.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:23] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [08:25] <clifford> ok - here is an example: [08:25] <clifford> # pkg=linux26-header [08:25] <clifford> # eval "$( bash scripts/xfind.sh package/. -type f -name 'pkgmapper.in' -printf '%f\t%p\n' | sort | awk '{ $1="."; print; }' )" [08:25] <clifford> # echo package/*/$pkg/$pkg.desc [08:25] <clifford> package/base/linux/linux.desc [08:27] <hannes_> xfind.sh only cares about .svn dirs? [08:27] <hannes_> ahh ok [08:27] <hannes_> i'll give it a try [08:28] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8E1CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:28] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [08:31] <hannes_> clifford: thx, works now [08:43] <netrunner> moin [08:43] <hannes_> hi netrunner [08:55] <blindcoder> moin netrunner [08:57] <netrunner> moin hannes and blindcoder, in order of appearance :) [09:00] <netrunner> this skype thngie is not for rock, hm? [09:01] <hannes_> netrunner: ?? [09:02] <hannes_> netrunner: it should run on rock [09:02] <netrunner> hannes_: they build their stuff with gcc32, I use gcc34 [09:03] <netrunner> anybody has experience with audio recording under linux? [09:06] <blindcoder> no [09:09] <netrunner> blindcoder: how do you know :) [09:10] <blindcoder> educated guess :) [09:10] <netrunner> nobody won the jackpot again ... now saturday 21 mio [09:15] <blindcoder> do you play? [09:26] <netrunner> sometimes. yesterday I played 6 rows, and even won another quicktipp from some radio station with 12 rows [10:00] esden (~esden@p50805029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [10:03] <th> moin [10:04] <hannes_> hi th [10:04] <blindcoder> moin th, moin esden [10:04] <th> clifford: still here? [10:04] <esden> moin everyone [10:04] <hannes_> hi esden [10:04] <esden> I AM TIRED!!! [10:05] <hannes_> GO TO BED!!! [10:05] <esden> it is not possible [10:05] <esden> I have to work >_< [10:05] <blindcoder> esden: you're still energic enough to shout [10:05] <clifford> th: yup. [10:05] <esden> blindcoder: lol [10:05] <th> clifford: have you send var/adm-data to sonar? [10:05] <hannes_> esden: aren't you ill, are you [10:05] <blindcoder> esden: you worked through the night? [10:06] <esden> blindcoder: only till 3:00 [10:06] <blindcoder> "only" [10:06] <blindcoder> no wonder that you're tired [10:07] <esden> blindcoder: ack [10:08] <clifford> th: doing that right now. [10:09] <th> clifford: will you add this to your "standard procedure" after a reference build? [10:09] <clifford> yes. [10:09] <th> clifford: would be great to have trunk data on a regular basis. [10:09] <th> very cool. thanks. [10:10] <clifford> erm.. does it try to make a complete tar.bz2 of the var/adm dir?!?! [10:10] <th> no [10:10] <th> not as i understood [10:11] <th> blindcoder: ? [10:11] <blindcoder> ehm, yes [10:11] <clifford> # du -sh build/ref1205-2.1.0-DEV-x86-reference-expert/var/adm/ [10:11] <clifford> 393M build/ref1205-2.1.0-DEV-x86-reference-expert/var/adm [10:11] <blindcoder> since it was recently requested that build logs be made available, too, I thought that was reasonable [10:12] <th> clifford: du -hs build/ref1205-2.1.0-DEV-x86-reference-expert/var/adm/* ? [10:12] <clifford> the logs are 216MB [10:12] <th> yea [10:13] <th> compressed size? [10:13] <blindcoder> hrm, maybe it's not such a good idea after all [10:13] <clifford> md5sums, cksums and flist 35M - 40M each [10:13] <th> we could skip md5sums [10:13] <blindcoder> dependencies descs flists [10:13] <blindcoder> those are currently in use by sonar [10:13] <clifford> packages, deps, dep-debug, descs 13M - 24M each [10:14] <blindcoder> I'll patch sonar.sh to only send those [10:14] <clifford> cache is 5M [10:14] <th> i really want those build logs :-/ [10:15] <th> clifford: can you check how big dependencies, descs, flists, and logs would be when compressed? [10:19] <hannes_> blindcoder: are there currently some problems with rockdoc? [10:19] <hannes_> blindcoder: sry, problem here [10:19] <blindcoder> no, why? [10:20] <clifford> th: https://murphy.clifford.at/rock-build/ [10:20] <hannes_> blindcoder: some bookmark from yesterday led to a pthon exceptoin [10:20] <th> clifford: is that a one time thing or will you make it always available there? [10:20] <hannes_> but if i click through the startpage everything works [10:20] <blindcoder> hannes_: which? [10:21] <clifford> th: exists already longer - I've now created a cron job which fixes the permissions so apache can read also new builds [10:21] <th> clifford: great - that should do the job. thanks [10:21] <th> blindcoder: perhaps you could intelligently link to there? [10:22] <clifford> hmm... [10:22] <th> not a good idea? [10:22] <clifford> there is no guarantee that this is always up and available. [10:22] <hannes_> blindcoder: https://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/CompilingProblems [10:22] <th> hmm i see [10:22] <blindcoder> hannes_: ah, I renamed that :) [10:22] <clifford> also I'd like to keep the traffic there small - it's on the xdsl at home.. [10:22] <th> clifford: and the bandwiths is limited. [10:23] <hannes_> blindcoder: ok [10:23] <th> clifford: ok. so we won't link. [10:23] <th> clifford: i try to remember that link [10:23] <clifford> when someone downloads from there I have problems checking my email.. [10:23] <clifford> th: It's now in the IRC logs.. [10:24] <th> clifford: yes. just need to remember some context around it. or the date [10:24] <clifford> argwl! what are you doing? [10:24] <th> clifford: just 8 mb [10:24] <th> clifford: finished in 6 minutes. shall i abort? [10:24] <blindcoder> clifford: I just committed a change to sonar to just submit dependencies, descs and flists [10:24] <clifford> my ssh is DEAD! >5sec latency. [10:24] <th> sorry [10:24] <th> aborted [10:25] <clifford> ahh! much better. [10:25] <clifford> that's why I don't want it linked.. ;-) [10:25] <th> yea [10:25] <th> https://murphy.clifford.at/rock-build/ref1205-2.1.0-DEV-x86-reference-expert/var/varadm.tar.bz2 is only 8.5MB in size and does contain logs [10:26] <blindcoder> clifford: please apply 2004120910241622115 and commit with that :-) [10:26] <clifford> th: I aborted building the file. [10:26] <th> GOOGLE_FOR_THIS_TO_FIND_THE_LOGS [10:26] <th> ;-) [10:26] <th> clifford: ok. thanks anyways. i have what i need. [10:27] <th> hmmmm i can't understand why xine starts failing in my reference build. i did not touch it [10:27] <th> a patch doesn't apply [10:31] <th> clifford: even getting a single log is quite big to your bandwiths :-/ [10:32] <clifford> th: I'm right now uploading to ROCK Sonar .. [10:32] <clifford> (guess I should install nettoll at home) [10:33] <clifford> --> https://www.linbit.com/de/loesungen/security/lintas/ <-- [10:36] <th> clifford: selling this with hardware? [10:37] <clifford> I don't know - I just wrote the entire software for the product. [10:37] <clifford> (pretty oversized for my home xdsl.. ;-) [10:37] <th> clifford: so you don't have any prizing information? [10:38] <clifford> should I ask? (the sales guy is just on the table behind me) [10:39] <th> clifford: yea [10:39] <th> clifford: please [10:39] <clifford> giveme a sec. [10:41] <th> .oO("a sec" with a sales guy? i doubt that) [10:41] <clifford> th: depends on the size of the network: 1.200 EUR - 10.000 EUR [10:41] <blindcoder> okay, added to Sonar [10:42] <th> clifford: is that with hardware? [10:42] <clifford> afaik that's without hardware. [10:43] <th> clifford: i was just interested in the very low end for a small office. i guess 1200EUR would be too much for them [10:43] <clifford> the 1200 are because we calculate one work-day for the installation. [10:43] <th> clifford: i could install the software on the linux gateway machine? [10:44] <th> clifford: no way to opt-out the installation? [10:44] <clifford> (linbit isn't selling "software boxes") [10:44] <clifford> th: at least we don't have a prize-tag for that right now [10:44] <th> clifford: i see. [10:45] <clifford> the software has 4 components. the "agent" (sensor) is a pretty small c program which doesn't consume much resources. no problem with installing that on a linux gateway. [10:45] <clifford> the data reduction and analysis should run on an extra machine. [11:22] <SMP> th: you could run a NetFlow probe, a collector and then use e.g. FlowScan to generate graphs [11:22] <th> SMP: is that nitpicker like? [11:23] <th> SMP: i guess implementing this myself is more expensive to the customer than buying cliff's solution [11:23] <SMP> just a little bit [11:24] <SMP> nitpicker saves to files in its own format, NetFlow data is sent from the probe (router or switch normally) to a collector that may do anything with the data [12:23] <owl> moin [12:23] <blindcoder> moin owl [12:23] <owl> hi blindy [12:41] <esden> argh ... one should really chop off people hands so that they are unable to write code ... it would be better then the stuff they produce ... argl [12:42] <blindcoder> esden: come here, comecomecome. *hides axe behind back* [12:42] <esden> WHY is so high percentage of open source software such a mess? ... can anyone explain it to me? [12:42] <esden> blindcoder: :P [12:43] <blindcoder> esden: easy: because _anyone_ can write open source software. And _everyone_ does [12:43] <blindcoder> I mean, just look at the crap I produce on a daily basis :D [12:43] <esden> my code is good! at least by now ... it was messy earlier I admit it ;) [12:44] <daja77> esden: i'll deal with commercial code atm that's no better [12:45] <daja77> -'ll [12:45] <esden> daja77: I do too ... and it is bad too I know [12:45] <esden> I spent nearly two weeks cleaning up the software in the company I work for now [12:46] <blindcoder> well, the cleanest code I ever saw was plain C code. The second cleanest was a perl script. [12:46] <esden> and I need to spend at least another two to clean the stuff that is still in a mess [12:46] <esden> and that are only 21k lines of code ... >_< [12:48] <blindcoder> "only" [12:50] <esden> blindcoder: yes ->only<- ;) [13:34] <mnemoc> oi [13:35] <blindcoder> jus [13:37] <fake> ladies and gentlemen [13:37] <fake> i may now make a statement [13:37] Action: mnemoc listen [13:37] <fake> "X.org rules" [13:38] <fake> i tried xfree86 (both the older and the new versions) on sparc [13:38] <fake> no go [13:38] <fake> i tried xorg... tada. not a sign of a problem. [13:38] <mnemoc> :D [13:39] <blindcoder> you must have made a mistake *runs* [13:39] <mnemoc> :p [13:43] <th> fake: do you still have your krups? [13:47] <blindcoder> oh, nice [13:47] <blindcoder> irda-utils fails [13:47] <blindcoder> patch not applying [13:48] <fake> th: yes [13:53] <esden> wee ... that baby is sweet ;) [13:53] <blindcoder> esden: become fat?her [13:53] Action: fake hrmpf [13:55] <esden> blindcoder: nearly [13:55] <esden> I have an alpha server 4100 now ;) [13:55] <blindcoder> nice [13:55] <esden> I am very eager to know if it is working and what is really in it [13:55] <esden> brb [13:56] <blindcoder> hf [13:57] <th> fake: have you had any more success on x or sound? [13:58] <fake> th: hm, 8bit X, squeaky sound? [13:58] <th> fake: i only had sound with bsd [13:59] <fake> i can't even remember.... [13:59] <fake> but i hat netbsd on it once, too [13:59] <fake> the console driver sucked [14:01] <fake> th: what about the iso(s) ? [14:02] <th> fake: i still need to search for localhero's mail addr. [14:05] <th> got it [14:07] <th> mail sent [14:10] <fake> th: thanks [14:16] <fake> mnemoc: now that i know the livecd will work with xorg, i'm gonna rebuild it [14:16] <fake> mnemoc: reg. sparc [14:17] <mnemoc> :D [14:18] <fake> xorg worked, but all libraries using X were linking against libfontconfig.so.2, which isn't there anymore. [14:18] <mnemoc> btw, someone had a problem configuring network on ppc/livecd some days ago [14:19] <mnemoc> he had no /etc/network/config, and couldn not write there, how does that work on your livecd? [14:19] <fake> mnemoc: there is no use to /etc/network/* [14:20] <fake> your settings would be gone on the next reboot anyways [14:20] <fake> (until shadowfs...) [14:20] <blindcoder> whatever that may be :) [14:22] <mnemoc> fake: how should someone set network on it? [14:22] <fake> mnemoc: ifconfig / iproute2? [14:22] <fake> dhclient... [14:22] <th> dhcpcd [14:22] <th> ? [14:23] <fake> not included, but will be [14:23] <fake> dhclient bus-error's on sparc ;)) [14:23] <th> good [14:23] <th> great [14:24] <mnemoc> fake: i was talking about something pre-configured on livecd [14:24] <fake> mnemoc: the lived starts up into init 2 [14:25] <mnemoc> fake: ic [14:25] <fake> mnemoc: it's kind of a rock philosophy not to assume any network config [14:26] <fake> btw, i'm doing the kde 3.3.2 update [14:27] <mnemoc> fake: but a template on network/config to edit and run rocknet by hand after that would make users life simpler [14:28] <blindcoder> mnemoc: so you think it should be documented? [14:28] <fake> mnemoc: rocknet will be given a nice gui-frontend [14:29] <fake> mnemoc: the current frontend is worse than editing the file with vi [14:29] <mnemoc> :) [14:29] <fake> mnemoc: when that frontend works, it will make sense ;) [14:29] <mnemoc> blindcoder: i think but i can do it right now :) [14:29] <mnemoc> fake: i trust you [14:29] <fake> there is documentation on rocknet [14:30] <blindcoder> mnemoc: https://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/.add/NetworkConfiguration [14:30] <fake> mnemoc: if you trust me, you have been mislead ;)) [14:30] <mnemoc> :p [14:30] <mnemoc> fake: in _this_ topic [14:30] <fake> blindcoder: /etc/network/README ? [14:30] <mnemoc> =) [14:30] <mnemoc> i was talking about "HowToLiveCD [14:30] <mnemoc> " [14:31] <blindcoder> fake: ENOENT [14:31] <fake> /etc/network/README [14:32] <fake> ... ROCKNET [by Clifford Wolf] [14:32] <fake> we patched the redme in again in august [14:32] <blindcoder> ah, okay [14:32] <fake> there was only a file pointing you to a URL in the rock handbook [14:32] <fake> ... very *very* annoying if you try to figure out pppoe config options in rocknet... [14:33] <blindcoder> indeed [14:35] <blindcoder> ROCKDoc now almost counting 6500 words [14:41] <daja77> fake: have a minute for me? [14:42] <fake> daja77: what can i do for you? [14:42] <daja77> i just want to know if skype works now [14:52] <fake> well, it does ;) [14:53] <daja77> yep :) [14:54] <blindcoder> 6510 words :) [14:58] <esden> ok ... the machine works ... only the second raid is somehow dead ;) [14:58] <esden> and I do not know how to recover it ... yet ;) [15:03] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) joined #rocklinux. [15:14] <fake> esden: running what? [15:14] <esden> vmunix or how it is called [15:14] <fake> oh, great. [15:15] <esden> digital unix I mean [15:15] <esden> I see that crap for the first time [15:30] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.97) joined #rocklinux. [15:30] <madtux> hello [15:30] Action: fake just applied 74 patches from submaster in one goe - without any failures! [15:30] <fake> hi madtux ! [15:30] <madtux> good patching-fake :) [15:36] treo (~xfman@Da2e3.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:37] <treo> sali [15:56] <netrunner> pepi [15:56] <madtux> toti? [15:59] <blindcoder> piep? [16:00] <madtux> wiii! [16:00] <madtux> :) [16:18] SteffenP (~steffen@p3E9EAD49.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:23] <esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/digital_alpha_4100.jpg [16:23] <esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/digital_alpha_4100_intern.jpg [16:26] <madtux> esden: - remeber to talk to ur negihboors about the server - [16:29] <esden> madtux: I already have [16:29] <esden> the machine is standing already here [16:30] <esden> and I am working on getting its mylex raid back to life [16:32] <madtux> good boy. [16:32] <madtux> have a cookie :) [16:34] <esden> *GG* [16:40] <hannes_> rehi [16:41] <hannes_> https://www.ulm.ccc.de/projekte/bankomat/1.html *lool* [16:49] <esden> weee ... the management software works! [17:03] <netrunner> https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4078895.stm [17:04] <hannes_> netrunner: haha...especially esden's powerbook gets very hot [17:05] <hannes_> esden: some comments? [17:08] <hannes_> ...i told you not to buy a powerbook =) [17:09] <esden> ok ... now I have a second alpha server 4100 ;) [17:09] tcr (~tcr@pD9EABEEF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:10] <esden> hannes_: no not really ... I thought at the beginning that it does [17:10] <esden> but it does not ... [17:10] <tcr> moin all. [17:12] <hannes_> hi tcr [17:15] Action: fake bbl [17:32] ringo (ringo78@xs2.xs4all.nl) left irc: Client Quit [17:55] #rocklinux: mode change '+o th' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:55] Topic changed on #rocklinux by th!th@thzn.de: ROCK Linux 2.0.3 released; 2.0.4 coming soon - shall be available for 21C3 - place your wishes NOW! [17:55] #rocklinux: mode change '-o th' by th!th@thzn.de [18:01] <esden> ok ... I have recovered the machine [18:01] <esden> all discs are ok ;) [18:03] <daja77> have you sent a mail about that to the list? [18:21] esden_ (~esden@p50804064.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:22] <esden_> ??? [18:22] Action: esden_ brb [18:23] <daja77> i meant th [18:23] esden__ (~esden@p50804064.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:24] esden (~esden@p50805029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:24] Nick change: esden__ -> esden [18:24] <esden> re [18:25] <esden> daja77: were you meaning me? [18:31] <esden> damn ... now could someone explain me how and where I find the mainboard in that server? [18:38] <th> daja77: no i didn't [18:38] <th> daja77: but it is very soon. so soon that ml-discussion has a too high latency [18:41] esden_ (~esden@p50804064.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:41] <blindcoder> and probably not focussed enough, too [18:43] LocalHero (~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se) joined #rocklinux. [18:43] <LocalHero> Hi all [18:43] <LocalHero> fake: You wanted an account [18:43] <daja77> th: nevertheless it should be tried, if noone answers i have no problem with that, but i don't like the thing, that some might say, if I'd known ... [18:45] <daja77> where was that wishlist again? [18:49] <th> daja77: there is no wishlist [18:49] <th> hi LocalHero [18:49] <th> LocalHero: thanks for re-enabling the machine [18:49] <LocalHero> th: no problem. It was on my todo list anyway ;) [18:50] <daja77> thought you had a link for things you planned or what's the status is [18:50] <th> LocalHero: do you know what happened? [18:50] <blindcoder> daja77: that was cliff [18:50] <LocalHero> Yupp, The machine runs gentoo and when i upgraded glibc the sshd deamon stoped to work [18:51] <LocalHero> Everything else was working fine [18:51] <th> daja77: i just had a "svn diff" against current head [18:51] <th> LocalHero: i see [18:51] <th> LocalHero: so we don't need to be afraid of further problems [18:51] <LocalHero> th: I will do all upgradings now and reset the machine in some hours [18:51] <LocalHero> th: I hope so ;) [18:52] <th> LocalHero: yea - thanks for your service. ATM you are our only binary-server [18:52] <LocalHero> th: ahh, oki :).. Well i will do my best to keep the uptime up :) [18:53] <esden> nice that box can have up to 4 cpu's [18:53] <esden> sad is that I only have 2 :( [18:53] <esden> and the one I booted runs on one currently [18:56] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.97) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] <blindcoder> hannes_: ping [19:13] <hannes_> blindcoder: pong [19:14] <hannes_> blindcoder: what's up? [19:17] <blindcoder> query [19:37] Nick change: BoS^home -> BoS^afk [19:56] madtux (~mike@200.91.101.97) joined #rocklinux. [19:57] <LocalHero> bye [19:57] <madtux> alex [19:58] LocalHero (~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se) left #rocklinux ("Kopete 0.9.0 : https://kopete.kde.org"). [20:12] tcr (~tcr@pD9EABEEF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:18] <esden> puhh ... [20:18] Action: esden finished reconfiguring the alpha babies ;) [20:19] <esden> now there is only one that is functional ;) [20:19] <esden> the other one has spent its organs in favor of the first one :) [20:19] <blindcoder> heh [20:21] <fake> aeh [20:21] <esden> now I need a rocklinux compile box ... [20:22] <fake> what was the html tag for a ..... [20:22] <fake> List Item. okay, got it. thanks. [20:22] <esden> o_O? [20:25] <netrunner> fake now refactoring to a webdesigner? [20:28] <esden> hrm ... what should I choose [20:28] <esden> which iso should I take .... [20:28] <esden> difficult decision [20:29] <owl> re [20:30] <owl> fsck! i'm too dumb to walk or so... "flog ueber eigene fuesse" -> "resultat: blutlache am boden, platzwunde am kopf, krankenwagen gerufen worden" O_o [20:30] <mnemoc> thanks :\ [20:31] <madtux> scheisse! [20:32] <owl> exactly. [20:32] <madtux> :) [20:32] <madtux> mnemoc: see its easy to describe things in one word :) [20:33] <mnemoc> =) [20:35] <esden> ROFL! [20:35] <madtux> hello esden :) [20:35] <esden> ok ... owl you managed it [20:35] <madtux> esden: wouldn't u agree? [20:35] <esden> you rescued my day ;) [20:35] <esden> hi madtux ;) [20:36] <blindcoder> made my day :D [20:36] <madtux> bah : [20:36] <madtux> :P [20:37] <esden> madtux: fyi: the alpha now has two 300Mhz processors with 2Mb Cache each and 740Mb RAM ;) [20:37] <esden> blindcoder: :P [20:38] <madtux> esden: wee! [20:38] <madtux> esden: pics pics pics! [20:38] <esden> ACK :) [20:38] <madtux> show me!? [20:38] <esden> they are already online ... [20:38] <esden> I have no more pics [20:38] <madtux> ah ok [20:48] <netrunner> reviewing code after a while unveals quite some mistakes ... [21:03] <daja77> oh i see esden [21:06] <netrunner> daja77: dream on :) [21:06] <fake> where? [21:06] <daja77> erh not personally [21:06] <netrunner> fake: he carries a foto in his purse ;) [21:07] <fake> hehe [21:07] <daja77> i engraved the pic in the wedding ring :p [21:08] <fake> in .13 mue technology ? ;-) [21:08] <daja77> :D [21:17] tfing (~tfing@82.225.142.148) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:20] <blindcoder> cc1plus: out of memory allocating 63200280 bytes after a total of 15601664 bytes [21:20] <blindcoder> oops [21:27] <blindcoder> after 5 hours :( [21:34] <fake> okay... prepare for traffic... [21:34] <netrunner> grml. [21:39] <netrunner> anybody has too much time currently? I built a new xfce4 package but it fails with prefix in /opt/xfce4 while building the 2nd part because it cannot find a lib it installed itself in that custom prefix ... [21:43] <fake> netrunner: does it use .pc files / pkg-config ? [21:46] <netrunner> no, normal configure. but I am doing something wrong with telling him the -I/opt/xfce4/include ... [21:46] <fake> i mean, does configure use pkg-config? [21:46] <fake> what is the error? [21:50] <netrunner> cannot find libxfce4util/libxfce4util.h [21:54] <netrunner> icons.c:34:39: libxfce4util/libxfce4util.h: No such file or directory [21:54] <fake> hm.. [21:56] <netrunner> oh, think I have it. [21:56] <netrunner> the includes are in /opt/xfce4/include/xfce4 [21:58] <netrunner> ah, seems to work now. [22:04] <fake> Error logs from bootdisk-2.1.0-DEV-powerpc-powerpc-604e-bootdisk: [22:04] <fake> 167 builds total, 167 completed fine, 0 with errors. [22:04] <fake> Error logs from crystal-2.1.0-DEV-powerpc-powerpc-604e-crystal-expert: [22:05] <fake> 312 builds total, 312 completed fine, 0 with errors. [22:05] <fake> without touching anything... [22:08] <esden> I need this in the kernel of the installation cd to install rocklinux on the dell machine here: https://iswraid.sourceforge.net/ [22:09] <fake> esden: wait [22:09] <fake> esden: this is for 2.4 [22:10] <esden> yes ... I know [22:10] <fake> how about 2.6? is that a patch too? [22:10] <fake> *there [22:10] <esden> https://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-013548.htm [22:11] <esden> seems not ... :( [22:11] <fake> esden: it uses the device-mapper. [22:12] <fake> esden: so there is support for it in the kernel [22:12] <esden> o_O? [22:13] <fake> esden: see if you can instruct the device-mapper in 2.6 via kernel append line [22:13] <fake> to combine the 2 devices [22:15] <esden> ok ... I search the doc for device-mapper [22:23] <treo> gn8 [22:24] <fake> n8! [22:24] treo (~xfman@Da2e3.d.pppool.de) left irc: "cya@all" [22:26] <esden> This driver is useless without libata [22:26] <esden> >_< [22:27] <fake> libata is in the kernel! [22:27] <fake> and the sata modules are included in the bootdisk [22:27] <fake> at least in recent builds... [22:27] <fake> 2.1 [22:27] <esden> humm ... [22:29] <esden> recent builds? [22:29] <esden> how recent? [22:29] <fake> well [22:29] <fake> kernel 2.6 as default switch was in october [22:31] <esden> so the 2.0.3 stable build should already include it? [22:31] <esden> or do I have to go to unstable builds? [22:33] <fake> i'm afraid there is no uploaded iso that recent [22:33] <fake> but hey [22:33] <fake> you could try the livecd [22:33] <fake> i just released it [22:33] <fake> argh [22:33] <fake> no md support in the livecd... [22:34] <esden> do I need md? md is software raid iirc... [22:35] <fake> you could try, the download should be quick thing [22:35] <esden> ok ... downloading [22:36] <esden> why are there no unstable crystal build iso's online? [22:36] <esden> that would probably solve the problem ... [22:37] <fake> esden: be patient ;) [22:37] <esden> >_< [22:38] <esden> I need to start building an iso for the alpha! [22:38] <esden> and you tell me to be patient >_< [22:38] <fake> you can 'install' the livecd on the harddisk if it works [22:38] <fake> there is a working compiler and stuff [22:40] <esden> good [22:41] <fake> sysv init is on it, you may need to wget grub, but that's not a problem [22:41] <esden> argh ... I need to wait for the iso for half an hour *cry* [22:42] <madtux> https://sofinesjoyfulmoments.com/humor/ilovesnow.htm [23:04] SteffenP (~steffen@p3E9EAD49.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [23:08] lewellyn (~mjl@lewellyn.silver.supporter.pdpc) joined #rocklinux. [23:08] <lewellyn> hoi :) [23:08] <owl> gn8. [23:09] <lewellyn> ni owl [23:12] <fake> hi lewellyn [23:13] SteffenP (steffen@p3E9EAD49.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:14] <lewellyn> hoi. how is? [23:14] <fake> well.. just finished a new livecd release [23:15] <esden> burning livecd [23:15] <lewellyn> good good :) [23:15] <fake> should show up @freshmeat any minute... [23:15] <fake> and i'm gonna make more coffee now [23:16] <fake> damn windows crap [23:16] <lewellyn> livecd of 2.0.3? [23:16] <fake> no, trun rev 4860 [23:16] <fake> *trunk [23:16] <lewellyn> what version does that correspond to? :) [23:16] <fake> 2.1-DEV [23:17] <lewellyn> ahh [23:17] Action: fake brb [23:17] Action: esden making coffee too [23:18] Action: madtux joins the coffee club [23:19] <daja77> hm coffee [23:19] Action: lewellyn just popped lunch in the radiation chamber [23:19] Action: mnemoc goes for cocacola [23:25] <lewellyn> asking elsewhere was fruitless, and i just realized that here is a better choice probably anyway... :) [23:25] <lewellyn> how would one get a usb palmos device to work under rock? :) [23:27] <esden> fake: there is no modprobe on the livecd? o_O [23:28] <daja77> lewellyn: plug it in, press hotsync on palm and then in the synching application [23:29] <fake> esden: don't shock me [23:29] <madtux> mnemoc: that "drogacola" is gonna killya [23:29] <lewellyn> daja77: well... complication... [23:29] <lewellyn> nothing shows up in vmware for USB Port 1 or USB Port 2 [23:29] <lewellyn> since i want to use the palm desktop under xpsp2 [23:30] <lewellyn> i think i got the usb modules all installed. [23:30] <esden> fake: modprobe: command not found [23:31] <fake> esden: /sbin/modprobe ? [23:31] <esden> ohh [23:31] Action: esden stupid [23:31] <fake> *phew* [23:31] Action: fake wiping seat away [23:31] <fake> *sweat [23:32] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.4) joined #rocklinux. [23:32] <daja77> lewellyn: the palm device is only up during the hotplug time, so you can't connect all the time [23:33] <lewellyn> oh... ok... [23:34] <lewellyn> hrm. hit the hotsync button on the device and vmware still doesn't see it :( [23:35] <daja77> check if it was connected in the linux log, see if vmware can handle these devices [23:35] <esden> ok ... but that is true: module ata_piix is missing [23:35] <esden> fake: but I need it ... [23:36] <fake> esden: kernel 2.6.9 from the livecd? [23:36] <lewellyn> damn. i think it will sync over wifi. which would resolve the issue, possibly... [23:36] <lewellyn> depending on the network setup... [23:36] <esden> fake: yes [23:37] <esden> read this:https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/11/msg00785.html [23:38] <fake> esden: just a second [23:39] <fake> esden: it should be in the kernel [23:40] <lewellyn> aha [23:40] <esden> o_O [23:40] <esden> humm [23:41] <fake> esden: i'm booting the livecd, wait [23:41] <esden> kk [23:41] <lewellyn> Dec 9 14:40:32 tuffet usb.plug[22295]: Invalid environment [23:41] <lewellyn> is that useful? [23:43] <fake> esden: see : grep piix /proc/kallsyms [23:44] <SMP> lewellyn: you need to prevent the kernel (a driver) from claiming that that device [23:44] <esden> fake: hrm [23:44] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.54) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:44] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [23:44] <esden> so why are the devices still sot accessable ? o_O [23:45] <fake> esden: does dmesg | grep -i ata tell you anything ? [23:49] <esden> ok ... the drivers are loading [23:49] <fake> esden: hum, how that ? [23:50] <esden> but I am getting abnormal status [23:50] <esden> and it is disabling a port [23:50] <esden> babble babble [23:51] <fake> you may be able to issue a rescan through sysfs [23:53] <esden> if I knew how ... [23:54] <lewellyn> hrm. interesting... [23:54] <lewellyn> Dec 9 14:53:09 tuffet usbfs.perm[22712]: Changing access for /proc/bus/usb/001/006, permissions 0664, root.users [23:54] <lewellyn> but i see nothing in /proc/bus/usb as that line appears... [23:54] <fake> esden: wait some more [23:55] <esden> ack [23:55] <fake> esden: is there something below /sys/bus/scsi ? [23:56] <fake> == 12/09/04 22:37:37 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc23. [23:56] <fake> cool!! [23:56] <fake> v9 opt. is fixed in gcc 3.4.3 for sparc! [23:58] <lewellyn> sweet [23:58] <esden> fake: you know what would be helpfull ... if the ata_piix module would be a module and not staticly in the kernel [23:58] <fake> esden: it's default that way [23:58] <esden> I can imagine that the ide bus is still busy when it tries to scan the bus [23:59] <fake> esden: i doubt it. you could hook up a normal ide drive and install there... [23:59] <fake> kind of a temporary, really big initrd ;) [23:59] <esden> sigh ... [23:59] <esden> humm [23:59] Action: esden looking around [23:59] <fake> .. [00:00] --- Fri Dec 10 2004