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[00:00] <mnemoc> german and spanish are understood too [00:00] <tcr> And variations of that... [00:01] Nick change: BoS -> BoS^afk [00:02] <_Lewellyn> tcr: there's a good dozen source tarballs i'd end up needing to compile. and i don't feel like patching the gcc and binutils sources today... [00:02] <_Lewellyn> all for 3 resulting rpms [00:03] Action: _Lewellyn really is unsure how it all glues together... [00:03] <_nexus_> ERROR[ogle_nav]: faild to open/read the DVD [00:03] <_nexus_> callbacks.on_opendvd_activate(): DVDSetDVDRoot: Root not set [00:03] <_nexus_> what? [00:03] <_nexus_> we help me? [00:04] <tcr> _nexus_, Where do you get that? [00:15] _nexus_ (~nexus@host26-227.pool8254.interbusiness.it) left irc: "Leaving" [00:22] SteffenP (steffen@pC19EA97F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [00:24] <_Lewellyn> can alien turn an rpm into something more friendly to rock? [00:25] treo (~xfman@Db0d6.d.pppool.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:25] <mnemoc> _Lewellyn: a mail to the author requesting a release on a decent format is friendlier [00:26] treo (~xfman@Db0d6.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [00:26] <_Lewellyn> another problem is that it's multiple authors. :/ [00:26] <treo> re [00:27] <_Lewellyn> this is more than i feel like dealing with today: [00:27] <_Lewellyn> https://prc-tools.sourceforge.net/install/BUILDING.html [00:27] <_Lewellyn> hoi treo [00:27] <tcr> _Lewellyn, Yeah, it can turn it into a tarball which you can easily extract and see what you've got. [00:28] <_Lewellyn> i'm pretty sure what's there :) [00:29] <_Lewellyn> so, extracting a tarball from / should do the trick (once i do a sanity check, of course) [00:29] <mnemoc> _Lewellyn: https://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/prc-tools/prc-tools-2.3.tar.gz?download [00:29] <_Lewellyn> hrm. i don't seem to have alien :( [00:29] <_Lewellyn> mnemoc: that's the source though [00:29] <_Lewellyn> did you read the build instructions? :) [00:30] <mnemoc> nope :p [00:30] <_Lewellyn> mnemoc: read the url i gave and you'll see why i don't want to start a project like that when i'm supposed to be working ;) [00:30] <tcr> _Lewellyn, Well, I'd first see what I've *really* got, ie. poking around and see if I can make it run abside my root directory first before I clutter / with those files. [00:30] <_Lewellyn> well, it's supposed to install to /opt [00:31] <_Lewellyn> which is fine by me [00:31] <mnemoc> _Lewellyn: it needs it's own toolchain, tipical ;) [00:31] <mnemoc> brb [00:31] <_Lewellyn> have fun doing whatever [00:31] <tcr> Well, then why don't you just use the rpm file? [00:32] <_Lewellyn> because of all the errors when i tried to install them [00:32] <tcr> Yeah and I said the following after you wrote that: <tcr> Yeah of course, you don't have a rpm database, so you have to force the installation. [00:33] <tcr> Maybe that got lost in noise. [00:33] <_Lewellyn> it's been so long since i've used rpm, that i don't know how to do that. [00:33] <_Lewellyn> all i remember about rpm is -Uvh [00:33] <_Lewellyn> and the man page sucks :( [00:33] <tcr> Uh, I'm sure you capable to search for `force' in the manpage, ain't ya? [00:34] <tcr> +are [00:34] <tcr> probably it's even named `--force'. [00:34] <tcr> or `--ignore-dependancies' [00:35] <_Lewellyn> well, it jsut tells me that it's the same as using --replacepkgs, --replacfiles, and --oldpackage [00:35] <_Lewellyn> which i've been trying to determine if i want before i go and use --force [00:35] <_Lewellyn> or is --nodeps all i need really? [00:35] <tcr> Wait up [00:36] <tcr> Yeah, that's the right one. [00:36] <_Lewellyn> see, it even confused you ;) [00:37] <_Lewellyn> gah. now to figure out how to make a pkgdb [00:37] <_Lewellyn> there we go. [00:37] <tcr> No, not really. But before I advocate crap, I better looked up [00:37] <_Lewellyn> third time's the charm :( [00:37] <_Lewellyn> mjl@tuffet$ rpm --initdb [00:37] <_Lewellyn> error: cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages [00:37] <_Lewellyn> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Operation not permitted (1) [00:37] <_Lewellyn> got that a few times. kinda an ominous tone is set by that. [00:38] <tcr> Fuck it, and google for a way to make an rpm a tarball. There're lot of tools for that (short perl scripts IIRC) [00:39] Action: tcr reminisce how he fucked with one of those #!@$ rpms in past. [00:40] <tcr> +s [00:40] <_Lewellyn> it finally went [00:40] <_Lewellyn> now to find the last missing rpm... [00:40] <_Lewellyn> it's hidden someplace on palmsource's site... [00:40] <_Lewellyn> later. after i actually do some work. [00:41] <tcr> What's you supposed to do? [00:45] <_Lewellyn> i just want to recompile my ssh app [00:46] <tcr> That's your job? [00:49] <_Lewellyn> oh. my job. [00:49] <_Lewellyn> that's different. :) [00:49] <_Lewellyn> www.kefta.com [00:49] <_Lewellyn> i'm an implementation engineer [00:49] <_Lewellyn> aka, one who actually makes things go [00:50] <_Lewellyn> ideally, you never notice our technology :) [00:52] <tcr> In Germany? [00:53] <_Lewellyn> in the us [00:54] <tcr> Brrp, I misparsed your last sentence [00:55] <_Lewellyn> we're in san francisco. :) [00:57] <tcr> Uh well, the website has a line / buzzword ratio of 0.2, just like most business websites. :) [00:58] <tcr> But then I'm probably not the kind of publicum you target. [01:04] <_Lewellyn> not at all. we aim at the marketing people. [01:04] <_Lewellyn> my interview was a lot of me trying to figure out wtf they did. [01:04] <_Lewellyn> :) [01:04] <_Lewellyn> let me just say that it's really cool :) [01:16] <daja77> re [01:21] <treo> gn8 [01:23] treo (~xfman@Db0d6.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [01:38] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAAB46.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] mistik1 (rasta@ool-44c02704.dyn.optonline.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:59] <fake> hi [03:36] tfing_ (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:37] ojh (~omer@70-56-254-221.eugn.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. 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