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[00:06] <owl> <- counting sheeps. gn8 [00:08] <mnemoc> gn8 owl [00:22] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Excess Flood [00:22] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [00:59] <daja77> re [01:04] <mnemoc> hi daja77 [01:08] <daja77> hi mnemoc [01:31] <daja77> you hilighted me ... [01:42] nookie_ (~nookie@M296P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [01:53] <mnemoc> daja77: me? when? [01:53] <daja77> some hours ago [01:54] <daja77> in another chan [01:54] <mnemoc> ah, it was about rtai [01:55] <daja77> it is unmaintained atm ... [01:56] <mnemoc> just as most linux extensions here and there ;) [01:57] <daja77> i don't need it atm, and new rtai would need a rework [01:57] <daja77> <- bed [01:58] <mnemoc> gn8 daja [02:01] nookie (~nookie@M393P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:46] <treo> gn8, idling into sleep [02:47] treo (~xfman@D91a4.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [04:01] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-080.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:01] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-155-215.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [04:01] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [04:32] esden (~esden@p50804FF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [05:43] esden (~esden@p50804FF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [07:11] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.47) joined #rocklinux. [07:28] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:41] <dsoul> moin [07:41] <dsoul> kernel should be updated :) [08:33] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8DFD9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:49] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8D444.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:49] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [09:38] nookie (~nookie@M328P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [09:43] <blindcoder> moin [09:55] nookie_ (~nookie@M296P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] <netrunner> moin [10:35] <netrunner> dsoul: what do you mean? [10:59] <dsoul> netrunner bugs [11:27] <netrunner> dsoul: blue [12:48] treo (~xfman@Da158.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:49] <treo> moin [13:55] <blindcoder> == 12:46:07 =[0]=> Building base/linux=linux26-header [2.6.9 0]. [13:55] <blindcoder> still building [13:55] <blindcoder> smells fishy [14:00] <netrunner> blindcoder: I sometimes accidently press C-s in a terminal, which makes the build appear to freeze. [14:00] <netrunner> blindcoder: try pressing C-q [14:00] <blindcoder> .config:2097: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MELAN [14:00] <blindcoder> tons of these [14:01] <blindcoder> netrunner: nope, that didn't happen [14:01] <netrunner> just athought :) [14:02] <blindcoder> I know the problem with c-s, thanks :-) [14:02] <blindcoder> make[1]: *** [oldconfig] Interrupt [14:02] <blindcoder> that's ultimately where it failed with C-c [14:06] <th> there is a problem with c-s? [14:06] <th> morning [14:06] <blindcoder> th: only in that it works as expected :) [14:06] <blindcoder> moin [14:11] <th> good. [14:12] <netrunner> th: rescue target misses libelf. [14:12] <th> netrunner: i never missed it. [14:12] <netrunner> th: at least in trunk. my build failed yesterday, just restarted it. [14:12] <netrunner> th: some package missed it. forgot which it was. [14:12] <th> netrunner: you mean build failed? [14:13] <netrunner> th: jup. in trunk with 2.6.10 [14:13] <th> sorry i've no time to fix things in trunk. [14:13] <netrunner> th: I still hope somebody helps this kernel thing, I have no knowledge about this header issue. [14:13] <th> it's stable in stable. [14:13] <netrunner> th: no problem, I am not talking about you :) [14:13] <netrunner> th: I only need, as you said, the same kernel for the rescue system. [14:13] <th> netrunner: in fact it's a good idea to just use a iso i released [14:14] <th> netrunner: and i'm building a 2.6.10 rescue iso now which i'm going to upload [14:14] <th> netrunner: it's trivial to use the uploaded system.tar.bz2 and the initrd.gz and use your kernel [14:14] <th> see target/rescue/contrib/mkisolinux.sh [14:15] <th> ./mkisolinux.sh -C KERNEL INITRD[.gz] SYSTEM [OVERLAY] [14:15] <th> creates the iso image from kernel, initrd and system tarball [14:15] <th> you can download initrd and system [14:15] <th> and build the kernel yourself [14:15] <th> * kernel must have support for devfs [14:15] <th> * kernel must have support for initrd [14:15] <th> * kernel must have support for iso9660 [14:16] <netrunner> th: how big is that iso? (that info is missing on the website ;) [14:16] Action: th is just pasting output from "sh ./target/rescue/contrib/mkisolinux.sh" [14:16] <th> https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/ [14:16] <th> take this as your starting point [14:16] <th> and you get sizes [14:16] <th> https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/2.0-stable/2.0.3/rescue/ [14:17] <th> 1t's 15MB [14:17] <th> and if you wish i'll release the 2.0.4-pre1 rescue.iso with kernel 2.6.10 very soon [14:17] <netrunner> jup thx. is the thing with booting rescue and pivot-root documented anywhere? [14:17] <th> nope [14:18] <netrunner> th: I think I could just copy my own kernel over to the rescue cd. [14:18] <th> but you might ask me and we work on a doc for it [14:18] <th> netrunner: using the mkisolinux.sh script is easy! [14:18] <th> netrunner: go for it! [14:19] <th> netrunner: there is a menu.lst-example for the lvm-boot-cycle [14:24] Action: netrunner booting rescue iso [14:26] <netrunner> for a note: loadkeys de -> cannot open include file qwertz-layout [14:26] <netrunner> for bootdisk in trunk and stable as well as the rescue thing. [14:27] <th> kernel default ;) [14:27] <th> you can put special mappings in you overlay file [14:28] <th> overlay is just another tar.bz2 that is extracted over the system [14:49] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-213-023-190-097.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:01] <netrunner> th: rescure is missing the symlink /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd [15:01] <th> netrunner: why do you think so? [15:01] <th> netrunner: why do you need it? [15:02] <netrunner> th: I called stone and it complained it found no /dev/fd/something :) [15:02] <th> why the hell are you calling stone inside rescue? [15:02] <netrunner> I am only experimenting :) [15:02] <netrunner> there is stone, so why not call it? :) [15:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: cd /dev && rm -rf fd && ln -s /proc/self/fd [15:02] <netrunner> blindcoder: thx, I know. wanted to bring it to th's attention. [15:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: oh, sorry. shouldn't do two things at the same time :) [15:03] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes, I know that feeling :) [15:03] kasc (kasc@dsl-213-023-198-054.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:03] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [15:05] <th> netrunner: perhaps i should remove stone [15:05] <th> i see no sense in having it there [15:05] <blindcoder> th: stone is part of mine, no? [15:05] <blindcoder> th: mine makes sense to have [15:06] <th> blindcoder: yes and mine works without that symlink. [15:06] <blindcoder> I'd just create the symlink. seems to be easier for two reasons: [15:06] <blindcoder> a) stone might become more useful :) [15:07] <blindcoder> b) other ROCK scripts do need that symlink, too. [15:12] <th> that's right. [15:14] <netrunner> th: oh, and calling grub leads to a segfault. [15:15] <th> no [15:15] <th> it doesn't [15:15] <th> at least not the official iso [15:15] <th> and neither any of the rescues i built [15:16] <th> i do that on every install [15:20] <netrunner> th: well ... I just did it. your official iso :) [15:20] <netrunner> th: the one in the emulated floppy works fine. [15:21] <netrunner> 1 [15:21] <th> can you reproduce this in qemu? [15:21] <th> somehow so i can test? [15:34] <netrunner> my qemu is still installing. [15:35] <th> how did you run grub? [15:56] esden (~esden@82.139.221.15) joined #rocklinux. [16:21] <netrunner> hi esdi [16:51] <th> uhh in 2.0.4-pre1 tar needs librt [16:51] <th> librt is fgrom glibc23 what is it? [16:51] <mnemoc_> runtime? ;) [16:52] <th> i mean: why does tar need librt explicitly? [16:53] <th> thats new in 1.14 [16:54] <th> and it needs libpthread hmm [16:55] <th> so to have a tar workin at version 1.14 i need the 20k bigger binary + 67k pthread + 23k librt [16:55] <th> thats > 100k more just cause i updated tar to 1.14 [16:55] <mnemoc_> use busybox on rescue ;) [16:55] <th> not for tar [16:56] <th> i want to have a real tar [16:56] <th> and i don't want + 111k for a new tar version [16:57] <mnemoc_> maybe that improvement can be disabled on configure [16:57] <th> yea [16:59] <th> hmm why does it need librt? [17:00] <mnemoc_> speed vs. size? [17:02] <th> hmmm so i need to figure out how to get back my old size [17:02] <th> checking for library containing clock_gettime... -lrt [17:09] esden (~esden@82.139.221.15) left irc: [17:13] <th> well i've still almos 2MB left in initrd perhaps i should just add these 100k [17:24] <th> wow kiss is 512MB of size? [17:24] <th> busybox has only 175K [17:24] <th> s/MB/K/ [17:27] <th> what can kiss do what busybox can't? [17:28] esden (~esden@82.139.221.15) joined #rocklinux. [17:28] <mnemoc_> kiss stinks [17:28] <th> e.g. kiss' mount [17:29] <mnemoc_> bb mounts too [17:29] <th> yes [17:29] <th> i'll try to replace kiss with busybox in my rescue [17:29] <mnemoc_> have you used my 'config engine'? [17:30] <th> i don't know your config engine. [17:30] <mnemoc_> on busybox package [17:30] <th> ahh [17:30] <th> no special config for bb in rescue target. [17:30] <mnemoc_> ic ;) [17:31] <th> what's your config engine? [17:31] <th> talking of the functions.in? [17:31] <netrunner> pciutils fails without kernel source. [17:31] <mnemoc_> busybox and uclibc use config files like kernels' [17:31] <th> ahh so i guess i do - as i use the default bb rock package [17:32] <mnemoc_> this 'engines' helps to alter that config [17:32] <th> how do i use it? [17:33] <th> can i change the bb functions with it? [17:34] <mnemoc_> that's the idea [17:34] <th> hmm in fact i don't want to change them [17:34] <mnemoc_> :) [17:34] <th> or do i? [17:34] <th> the default looks ok. [17:34] <mnemoc_> i tryed to port rock's config into it by default [17:35] <th> ahh [17:35] <th> that'd be cool [17:36] <mnemoc_> NLS, arch, etc... simple stuff [17:37] <th> do you smell any drawbacks with bb in stage1 systems instead of kiss? [17:38] tschmidt (~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:39] <mnemoc_> i wanted to rewrite the whole bootdisk [17:39] <mnemoc_> using bb ofcourse [17:43] nookie_ (~nookie@M299P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:43] esden (~esden@82.139.221.15) left irc: [17:49] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:49] tschmidt (~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] nookie (~nookie@M328P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] <netrunner> th: can it be that you improved the rescue target in stable but the changes did not get into trunk? [17:58] Nick change: tschmidt_ -> tschmidt [18:54] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:54] tschmidt (~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:03] <th> netrunner: ack. there is a forward merge planned. [20:03] <th> netrunner: but nothing serious [20:04] <th> netrunner: what's not working? [20:11] <netrunner> th: after the build, the scripts wanted to copy ip, which is in iproute2, which is not selected. [20:20] <th> whut? [20:20] <th> thats in for ages [20:20] <th> netrunner: actually everything is merged ATM [20:21] <th> perhaps your iproute2 did not build? [20:21] <th> iproute2 should be selected [20:22] <th> [P] X -X---5---9 190.000 [20:22] <th> [P] X -1---5---9 787.000 [20:22] <th> that's the difference in iproute2 paclage hmmmm [20:22] <th> is there some s/X/-/ in trunk? [20:22] <th> cause selection happens by: [20:22] <th> # Disable packages which are not in base or not build in stages 0-4 [20:22] <th> base / ! { s/^X /O /p; d; }; /^. -----/ { s/^X /O /p; d; }; [20:23] <th> so it should be selected if not deselected by that match [20:23] <th> but as far as i know there have been no problems with that target in trunk on 2.0.3 times [20:24] <netrunner> th: maybe I accidently mixed the configurations. [20:25] Action: netrunner has a unique config/ for both -stable and -trunk [20:29] <th> and maybe i should switch to explicit package selection for rescue [21:00] nookie (~nookie@M299P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [21:09] treo (~xfman@Da158.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [21:19] nookie_ (~nookie@M299P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:27] <th> mnemoc_: is there some prepared mechanism to create a link for each plugin busybox provides? [21:28] <mnemoc_> busybox creates an 'installer' [21:29] <th> hmm i'd need to fetch that from build dir? [21:30] <th> cause i don't have the build dir available at the time i'd need it. [21:30] <mnemoc_> iirc it's another 'builtin' on busybox binary [21:30] <th> ahh that would be good [21:30] <th> is it in by default [21:30] <th> ? [21:30] <th> reading the list... [21:31] <th> perhaps it's not listed [21:31] <mnemoc_> i'm not sure... mom [21:32] <th> should i update from 1.00-pre7? [21:32] <mnemoc_> what busybox install --help say? [21:32] <mnemoc_> th: sure [21:32] <th> mnemoc_: do you know some minor things that changed? [21:32] <th> s/minor/major/ [21:33] <th> some major things that justice the update [21:33] <mnemoc_> bug fixing i think [21:33] <th> install: applet not found [21:33] <mnemoc_> -pre7 is ugly when final has been released long time ago [21:33] <th> final is released? [21:34] <mnemoc_> # 13 October 2004 -- BusyBox 1.00 released [21:34] <th> uhh [21:34] <th> it's not in trunk [21:34] <th> [V] 1.00-rc3 [21:34] <th> that's trunk [21:34] <th> is it in submaster? [21:34] <mnemoc_> not by me [21:36] <th> are you able to do a test build in trunk? [21:37] <mnemoc_> i have no build of trunk here, i should have to do a minimal or something but i can't do that today, the company server is very busy :p [21:38] <th> i see [21:38] <th> i'll test it in stable [21:38] <th> ohh busybox comes with iproute2 "ip"? [21:38] <th> wow [21:38] <mnemoc_> yep :) [21:39] <th> well it's not in rock's default bb config [21:39] <mnemoc_> btw, to configure it var_append to conffiles a file like pkgsel with: [21:39] <mnemoc_> X FEATURE [21:39] <mnemoc_> X FEATURE_*_FOO [21:40] <th> rock.config? [21:40] <th> X *_DEVFS [21:40] <th> X *_DEVPTS [21:40] <mnemoc_> that's a default [21:40] <mnemoc_> you can var_append from your target [21:41] <mnemoc_> hook_add postmake 9 'cp -v .config busybox.links $docdir' <--- on the bottom of busybox.conf [21:41] <mnemoc_> so the list of links is on $docdir [21:41] <th> uhhhh. i built busybox 1.00 but the filelist does not contain the binary :-/ [21:41] <mnemoc_> and the .config generated [21:41] <th> busybox: usr/share/doc/busybox/.config [21:42] <mnemoc_> busybox & uclibc were polemic packages when i improved it [21:43] <mnemoc_> they where not applied as i send them because of my 'config engine' on uclibc package used by busybox [21:43] <mnemoc_> i'm not sure how they work on rock's trunk [21:45] <netrunner> th: I can test the upgrade for trunk. [21:45] <netrunner> th: but the rescue disk already has busybox on it? [21:45] <th> netrunner: yes for stage2 [21:45] <th> netrunner: i want to replace the kiss by bb in stage1 [21:46] <netrunner> th: I started https://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/RootOnLVM [21:46] <th> mnemoc_: hmmm strange a simple version bump results in no busybox binary in stable [21:46] <netrunner> th: I'll do it in my qemu in parallel :) [21:46] <th> netrunner: great. i promise to proof-read this. [21:46] <mnemoc_> what does the log say? [21:46] <netrunner> th: don't expect too much there, I am not a good author :) [21:47] <mnemoc_> if [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS" = 0 ] ; then [21:47] <mnemoc_> makeinstopt='' [21:47] <mnemoc_> hook_add postmake 5 'cp -v busybox $bindir' [21:47] <mnemoc_> else [21:47] <th> mnemoc_: it's in my people dir [21:48] <th> including flist [21:50] <mnemoc_> nothing is installed, can you set XTRACE? [21:50] <th> there is no such busybox config option here... [21:51] <th> mnemoc_: did you say you made improvements to bb that did not go into trunk? [21:51] <mnemoc_> no ROCK's xtrace config and rebuild :) [21:51] <mnemoc_> the go into trunk a year after i send them [21:51] <th> i see [21:52] <mnemoc_> and as uclibc was delayed changes were done [21:52] <mnemoc_> delayed even more* [21:54] <mnemoc_> i also wanted to remove that 'emergency' thing alessandro had as busybox config [21:54] <th> what's that about? [21:54] <th> full static? [21:55] <mnemoc_> no, just busybox installed on a /emergency dir :\ [21:55] <th> which has all links? [21:55] <mnemoc_> yes, static [21:57] <mnemoc_> a make install is done to that prefix [21:57] <th> build finished again. [21:57] <mnemoc_> normally busybox only + .config + busybox.links only should be installed [21:57] <th> uploaded. [21:57] <th> (the log) [21:59] <mnemoc_> weird, one postmake seem to be gone.... mom [21:59] <th> i guess the strange thing is that i've no such config vars [22:00] <mnemoc_> what ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS do you have? [22:00] <mnemoc_> no? [22:00] <th> config does not have any /BUSY/ [22:01] <th> i've no buysbox options in dialog [22:01] <th> removed config/default/ [22:01] <th> trying again [22:01] <mnemoc_> if [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS" = 0 ] ; then <--- change this to != 1 in that case [22:02] <th> yea that's what i guessed [22:02] <mnemoc_> but i don't understand why you could not have BUSYBOX config vars [22:02] <th> now i have a busybox submenu [22:03] <mnemoc_> o_O [22:03] <th> and now i have ROCKCFG_PKG_BUSYBOX_SYMLINKS='0' [22:03] <mnemoc_> but change it to != 1 anyway [22:03] <mnemoc_> it's safer [22:03] <th> must've been an old config [22:03] <th> yes - is it in trunk already? [22:03] <mnemoc_> nope [22:03] <th> or are you planning busybox changes? [22:03] <mnemoc_> no changes planed [22:04] <mnemoc_> at least until march :\ [22:04] <th> netrunner: so could you please include this tiny change with the update? [22:05] esden (~esden@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [22:06] <mnemoc_> th: if you want iproute2-clone on rescue var_append a rule file with: X IP to conffiles from target [22:06] <th> X IP? [22:06] <th> where does "IP" come from? [22:06] <mnemoc_> CONFIG_IP [22:06] <mnemoc_> CONFIG_IP=y [22:07] <th> ahh so X IP is no abbreviation but complete [22:07] <mnemoc_> you have X FEATURE [<value>] [22:07] <mnemoc_> yes [22:07] <mnemoc_> O FEATURE on turn matching with ='n' [22:07] <th> i should compare that in detail. dont know if i'd like a iproute2 clone [22:07] <netrunner> there are a few FIXME's in the busybox.conf ... [22:08] <th> busybox: usr/bin/busybox [22:08] <mnemoc_> and - FEATURE to remove that line [22:08] <th> that helped [22:08] <th> ok that's cool [22:09] <th> and misses documentation ;> [22:09] <mnemoc_> netrunner: FIXMEs where more a like a TESTME [22:09] <mnemoc_> there is a mail about [22:09] <th> can you find that mail and paste it into ROCKDoc wiki? [22:10] <mnemoc_> i did that 'engine' to improve kernel's config but i was ignored and after a year a bit pissed :p [22:10] <th> "kernels"? [22:10] <mnemoc_> kernel use the same .config thing [22:10] <mnemoc_> with the same schema [22:10] <th> so it was initially for kernel? [22:10] <mnemoc_> yes [22:11] <th> ok [22:11] <blindcoder> mnemoc_: you have to send reminders about once every other hour to be heard on the mailing lists :) [22:11] <mnemoc_> blindcoder: *G* [22:13] <th> cat $rootdir/usr/share/doc/busybox/busybox.links | \ [22:13] <th> sed 's/^/basename /' | sh | while read x [22:13] <th> do [22:13] <th> ln bin/busybox $x [22:13] <th> done [22:14] <th> suggestions for improvement? [22:14] <blindcoder> while read x ; do [22:14] <mnemoc_> how does busybox.links looks like? ;) [22:14] <blindcoder> ln bin/busybox `basename $x` [22:15] <blindcoder> done < $rootdir/usr/share/doc/busybox/busybox.links [22:15] <th> mnemoc_: x becomes the basename of the binary [22:15] <mnemoc_> th, blindcoder: you can look into uclibc's clean_arch.config and uclibc.conf for some more 'advanced' usage of this /engine/ [22:15] <th> blindcoder: thanks [22:15] <mnemoc_> th: i whould use sed directly to write `ln ...` lines and then | sh [22:15] <th> blindcoder: /me is blindfolded today [22:16] <netrunner> busybox 1.00 built flawlessly [22:16] <mnemoc_> feel free to update :) [22:16] <th> mnemoc_: yea - but blindys version is even better i think [22:16] <th> netrunner: thanks [22:16] <th> i'll send the update to sm [22:17] <mnemoc_> th: yes :) [22:17] <th> mnemoc_: any other small fixes to propose? [22:17] <mnemoc_> nope [22:17] <mnemoc_> ee.... [22:17] <mnemoc_> yes [22:17] <mnemoc_> read x y; [22:17] <mnemoc_> to catch the crap on y [22:17] <th> i's talking of bb update [22:17] <th> who needs the crap? [22:18] <mnemoc_> if you don't catch the crap, the crap will be inside x [22:18] <th> there was a better way of doing `basename` cause basename is in /usr [22:18] <th> which crap? [22:19] <mnemoc_> th: if you test emergency thing, and works remove the FIXMEs [22:19] <mnemoc_> <mnemoc_> how does busybox.links looks like? ;) <th> mnemoc_: x becomes the basename of the binary [22:19] <mnemoc_> "becomes the basename of the binary" is the crap, or i misunderstood' [22:21] <th> mnemoc_: no i wanted to say that $x will be the basename of each binary [22:21] <th> the file reads like: [22:21] <th> /usr/bin/tail [22:21] <th> /bin/tar [22:21] <th> ... [22:21] <th> for each applet [22:21] <th> and $x becomes tail, tar, ... [22:21] <th> so there is no crap in the file [22:22] <mnemoc_> why `basename` ? [22:22] <mnemoc_> considering you have /usr/bin, /bin and /sbin [22:22] <th> cause i want to have all plugins in a single dir in rescue stage1 [22:22] <mnemoc_> ok [22:23] <th> i have usr -> . and sbin -> bin symlinks in stage1 [22:23] <th> ${x##*/} [22:23] <mnemoc_> if you already have the symlinks why expend time running `basename`;) [22:24] <th> to go easy on the symlinks? [22:24] Action: mnemoc_ boss looking me directly [22:24] <th> ;-) [22:24] <mnemoc_> brb [22:31] <th> 2005010822305619222 place your votes [22:34] <th> netrunner: what files should i preserve for loadkeys to work? [22:38] <th> netrunner: you should note in the wiki that you are talking about the ROCK Linux advanced rescue system - cd set [22:38] <th> else there would be no /mnt/boot [22:38] <netrunner> th: I don't know. I only wanted to have german layout and got the error I reported :) [22:39] <th> please paste the error again [22:39] <th> i can fix this if you can help me finding which file is missing [22:39] <netrunner> For the next steps, you'll need a ROCKLinux? rescue CD. [22:39] <netrunner> ok, I can denote it with the longer name .) [22:40] <th> ahh [22:40] <netrunner> loadkeys: /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de.map.gz:8: cannot open include file qwertz-layout [22:40] <netrunner> th: that page is far from finished, I am only pushing what I know :) [22:41] <th> netrunner: ok. [22:41] <th> hmmm the de.map.gz is availabl [22:42] <th> so it's include/quertz-layout.inc missing [22:46] <netrunner> oh, the wiki has a line-length problem with <pre> text :) [22:49] <th> netrunner: did you notice anything else besides loadkeys and the /dev/fd problem? [22:50] <netrunner> th: not yet. :) [22:50] <th> just let me know. [22:50] <netrunner> sure [22:53] <blindcoder> netrunner: how so? [22:56] tschmidt (~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:57] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:57] Action: fake packing up stuff [22:59] <blindcoder> fake: tar cfI /dev/truck /home [22:59] <fake> cfj ;-) [22:59] <blindcoder> force of habit [22:59] <daja77> hi fake [22:59] Action: fake off moving, see you in a few hours from vienna ! [22:59] <blindcoder> fake: have a good ride [23:00] <daja77> hf [23:00] <th> yea - cya fake, [23:01] Action: daja77 kicking xpdf [23:02] <th> is subversion stuck again? or is this delay my network here? [23:02] <th> daja77: there is a beta version for adobe reader 7 out for linux. ;-p [23:02] <daja77> i know [23:03] <daja77> but i think finding the reason why fonst like helvetica are missing could be insightful ... [23:04] link_ (~link_@adsl.xan.ch) joined #rocklinux. [23:11] <th> could anyone please confirm that subversion has a problem on rl.net? [23:13] <tfing> https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/ does not seem to load at least [23:14] <daja77> it does not [23:17] <th> recovering... [23:17] <th> done [23:19] <th> perhaps we should get a newer version on the server [23:20] <blindcoder> might be worth a try [23:20] <blindcoder> yesterday I was sitting here for around three hours or more to update two trees [23:21] <th> blindcoder: you can page me to unstuck it again. [23:21] <blindcoder> th: okay, will note that down :) [23:21] <th> blindcoder: you should have my number. do you? [23:22] <blindcoder> th: don't think so [23:22] <th> ahh i did not call you for the USB case so you dont have it [23:27] <blindcoder> okay, I'm off to bed [23:27] <blindcoder> bye [23:36] tschmidt_ (~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:44] <netrunner> hm. rock switching away from rockplug? [00:00] --- Sun Jan 9 2005