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[07:56] <blindcoder> moin
[07:57] <daja77> moin blindy
[07:58] <blindcoder> hi daja77 
[07:59] <blindcoder> damn, couldn't sleep all night and now I'm sleepy as hell :(
[07:59] <daja77> https://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2003/06/05/state2022EDT0148.DTL&nl=fix
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[08:00] <blindcoder> well, that's America for you
[08:03] Action: daja77 neow feeling secure ;)
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[08:22] <SerWou> Hello
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[10:33] <esden> morning everyone
[10:36] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[10:45] <blindcoder> okay, guess that's enough documentation for today
[11:07] <th> blindcoder: good boy :)
[11:17] <esden> blindcoder: the docu man ;)
[11:17] Action: esden should also do something ... *sigh*
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[11:25] <blindcoder> esden: just killing time :)
[11:26] <esden> I have no time to kill ... that is the problem
[11:27] <blindcoder> any sed guru available?
[11:30] <blindcoder> obviously not
[11:31] <th> hmm
[11:31] <th> how much guru is needed?
[11:32] <th> blindcoder: what do you need?
[11:32] <tfing> th: he needs a guru :)
[11:33] <th> tfing: yea - but "to need something" is transitiv! so he needs the guru to todo something. so in fact he needs to do something
[11:33] <th> but to put it another (more precise) way:
[11:33] <th> blindcoder: what do you need the guru for?
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[12:28] <blindcoder> th: I have a sed expression that stops working when there are ? & and ; in it
[12:28] <blindcoder> and I want to fix that
[12:28] <blindcoder> th: "s,href=([^($file)]*)$file\",href=\1$file.html\",g"
[12:28] <blindcoder> and file may contain something like this:
[12:29] <blindcoder> .diff/BuildingDistributions?revnew=182&amp;revold=181
[12:29] <blindcoder> that's when it stops working
[12:30] <th> aehm
[12:30] <th> i think you need to escape ()
[12:30] <th> what the hell
[12:31] <th> []...
[12:31] <th> what is $file?
[12:31] <th> ah you are trying to remove "([" "])" ?
[12:31] <blindcoder> no
[12:31] <blindcoder> I'm trying this:
[12:31] <th> gimme in and out and i'll give you your regexp ;)
[12:32] <blindcoder> a href="HomePage" --> a href="HomePage.html"
[12:32] <blindcoder> works fine with above regex
[12:32] <blindcoder> but
[12:32] <blindcoder> a href=".diff/Homepage?revold=1&amp;revnew=2" --> a href=".diff/Homepage?revold=1&amp;revnew=2.html"
[12:32] <blindcoder> does not
[12:33] <blindcoder> additional problem:
[12:33] <th> why do you have "[" in that regexp?
[12:33] <blindcoder> [^ <-- means all but not this
[12:33] <blindcoder> [^(meep)] means all but the literal string "meep"
[12:33] <th> but thats char-wise
[12:33] <blindcoder> no
[12:33] <th> hmmm
[12:33] <blindcoder> that would be
[12:33] <th> ahh 
[12:33] <blindcoder> [^meep]
[12:34] <th> $file needs to be escaped.
[12:34] <blindcoder> no it should be expanded from the bash variable
[12:35] <th> you want to have ".diff/Homepage?revold=1&amp;revnew=2.html" as output?
[12:35] <th> so you only want to append .html?
[12:35] <blindcoder> yes
[12:35] <th> can you be sure that no " appears inside $file?
[12:35] <blindcoder> yes
[12:35] <th> good.
[12:36] <th> so how about:
[12:36] <th> (gimme a second)
[12:36] <th> s|href="\([^"]*\)"|href="\1.html"|
[12:37] <blindcoder> that would replace all hrefs which is a bad thing wrt. external links
[12:37] <th> ahh we need to match $file only. ok.
[12:38] <th> (gimme another second)
[12:39] <th> can you give me code how your file variable will be assembled?
[12:39] <blindcoder> yes, query
[12:39] <th> k
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[15:30] <netrunner> *G* https://daemlich.net/r4423
[15:31] <daja77> hehehe
[15:35] <blindcoder> that's the problem when going somewhere directly from #nethack 
[15:36] <blindcoder> I saw it and thought "DemiLich? Here?"
[15:45] <blindcoder> heh
[15:45] <blindcoder> yesterday I was thinking about trying to build at least some packages for LVP with uclibc, today there's a new release :D
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[17:29] <treo> moin
[17:32] <daja77> aaaaaaaaaaargh!
[17:33] <blindcoder> daja77: I'm used to hearing that in #nethack but here...
[17:33] <blindcoder> mnemoc: ping
[17:34] <mnemoc> blindcoder: pong
[17:35] <daja77> blindcoder: well i now definitely know that some patch order is wrong
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[17:59] <blindcoder> HAH
[17:59] <blindcoder> mpgtx now builds with gcc34 :D
[17:59] <blindcoder> FUCK YOU STUPID PIECE OF SOFTWARE :P
[18:03] <blindcoder> didn't like inlining of protected methods
[18:04] <blindcoder> esden: why would someone inline protected methods in C++?
[18:04] <esden> to make the part faster
[18:04] <esden> probably
[18:05] <esden> erm 
[18:05] <esden> no ... it is so that the part gets yelded in this place
[18:05] <esden> in this object file
[18:05] <esden> and not in every object file once
[18:05] <esden> it is importaint for libraries 
[18:05] <esden> but I am sure there are situations when you also need it in other places
[18:06] <blindcoder> esden: well, I got tons of undefined references from that
[18:07] <blindcoder> and the inline was just a wild-ass guess ;)
[18:07] <esden> erm ... I would have to dig in to stroustroup before answering you the question in deep
[18:07] <esden> you think? ... why do you suppose the people do not know how to write C++?
[18:08] <blindcoder> esden: it worked with gcc 3.3.2 but not with 3.4.2
[18:08] <esden> hehe ... ok
[18:08] <esden> now I understand
[18:08] <blindcoder> esden: and I just commented it because I guessed it might be similiar to C and poof it compiled :)
[18:08] <esden> gcc 3.4 is a lot more strict with c++ then before ... they changed a lot in the language parser to be more C++ standard conform
[18:09] <esden> there is probably a thing why it now is causing problems
[18:09] <blindcoder> OTOH it might have been possible to add the inline to the header (where it was missing)
[18:09] <esden> that does not mean that they inlined it without reason
[18:09] <SMP> blindcoder: you know, three hours before you posted the mpgtx package for the first time I asked myself "gee, I need a program to inspect the plexes of an mpeg container" ... thanks ;)
[18:09] <blindcoder> SMP: you're welcome *laughs* :)
[18:10] <esden> it can be that you have to write it in another way
[18:10] <blindcoder> esden: the functions search for a byte in a stream
[18:10] <esden> blindcoder: read stroustroup and the C++ standard paper and the paper with the GCC changelog ... and correct that 
[18:10] <esden> then it _HAS_ to be inlined
[18:10] <esden> because of performance reasons
[18:11] <esden> but I can not say how ... you have to find out by yourself
[18:11] <esden> ;)
[18:11] <blindcoder> esden: fixing something in an almost four year old piece of software seems to be like taking over maintainship :)
[18:12] <esden> hrm ... ... see it as a possibility to learn more about C++ ;)
[18:12] <blindcoder> which I'm kinda unwilling to do
[18:12] <mnemoc> blindcoder: https://cxx.uclibc.org/ <--- FYI
[18:12] <blindcoder> and mpeg, too, on the way
[18:12] <blindcoder> mnemoc: thanks
[18:13] <mnemoc> blindcoder: they released 0.18 yesterday
[18:13] <blindcoder> mnemoc: release rampage, huh? :)
[18:14] <mnemoc> blindcoder: a new release of busybox would be nice 
[18:19] <daja77> hm syslinux becoming the next imagemagick
[18:20] <mnemoc> 3.00->3.06 "release rampage"?
[18:20] <daja77> 3.07 ;)
[18:20] <mnemoc> oh
[18:25] <blindcoder> daja77: so many releases? or why?
[18:26] <daja77> no idea
[18:26] <daja77> erh yes because of that
[18:36] <blindcoder> what the...
[18:36] <blindcoder> typename T * &ptr
[18:37] <blindcoder> what's that?
[18:44] <tcr> C++
[18:45] <tcr> 'nuff said. :)
[18:45] <blindcoder> yeah, probably right there :)
[18:45] <blindcoder> why is sending text via infrared on palmos so damn fucking difficult?
[18:45] <blindcoder> or rather
[18:45] <blindcoder> why is there no good documentation for it?
[18:48] <mnemoc> blame the guy from palmos, daja :)
[18:49] Action: blindcoder blames daja
[18:50] <daja77> O_O
[19:03] <th> aehm. neither gnupg nor gnupg2 are CORE?
[19:04] <daja77> still not?
[19:04] <blindcoder> not atm
[19:05] <blindcoder> daja77: well, there hasn't been much activity from our big poobah since 21C3, has there?
[19:05] <daja77> that was assigned to someone else iirc
[19:05] <daja77> he registered three talks for clt ;)
[19:06] <blindcoder> ah :)
[19:08] <th> hmm no mpg321 either...
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[19:55] <Shura> hello everyone :)
[19:58] <mnemoc> daja77: three talks about?
[19:58] <daja77> rocklinux, shadowfs ans sth else i don't remember
[19:59] <mnemoc> brainf*ck?
[20:02] <daja77> shall i look it up? ;)
[20:02] <mnemoc> nah
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[23:01] <treo> gn8
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[23:29] <netrunner> c
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