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[10:01] <netrunner> moin
[10:09] Action: netrunner writing application for st.petersburg state university
[10:24] <netrunner> anybody knows how to merge dvi/ps/pdf ? psmerge produces crap :/
[10:57] <blindcoder> moin
[11:00] <netrunner> hm. I have a weird problem. my eth1 is up, but does not transmit anything.
[11:00] <netrunner> no. it transmits. but does not receive anything.
[11:00] <blindcoder> defect wire?
[11:01] <blindcoder> fscked route?
[11:01] <blindcoder> b0rken pin on rj45?
[11:24] <netrunner> no. switch is good, tested other cable.
[11:26] <blindcoder> I meant pin on the eth1 rj45
[11:28] <netrunner> but I see the dhcp requests on the server.
[11:31] <blindcoder> but you don't receive, yes
[11:31] <netrunner> hm. true.
[11:31] <blindcoder> the receive pin maybe broken, that's what I thought
[11:31] <blindcoder> or the route from server _to_ you is broken
[11:34] <netrunner> nope. other pcs work fine. and this one worked until I reinstalled :/
[11:35] <blindcoder> strange
[11:38] <netrunner> I'll try if he pxe-boots.
[12:14] <netrunner> hm. disconnected everything, replugged, works. strange.
[12:51] <blindcoder> heh
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[13:10] <netrunner> is anybody able to tell me why I have a udevd and devfsd running?
[13:10] <netrunner> (recent crystal) I cannot find the place where udev would be started...
[13:11] <blindcoder> ehm... because both are in /etc/rc*.d/?
[13:11] <netrunner> no, there is no initscript for udevd.
[13:12] <blindcoder> what's its PPID?
[13:13] <netrunner> 863
[13:13] <blindcoder> and what it 863?
[13:13] <netrunner> udevd
[13:13] <netrunner> oh, ppid.
[13:14] <blindcoder> yes :)
[13:14] <netrunner> how do I get that? ps axf does not show any ancestor in the tree
[13:14] <blindcoder> use top
[13:14] <blindcoder> then press f and then b
[13:14] <blindcoder> then the ppid is shown, too
[13:15] <netrunner> 1
[13:15] <netrunner> init. hm...
[13:15] <blindcoder> grep -i udevd /etc/rc.d/init.d/*
[13:15] <netrunner> nothing.
[13:15] <blindcoder> haeh?
[13:15] <netrunner> that's what I wonder :)
[13:15] <blindcoder> that is highly strange
[13:16] <blindcoder> this calls for drastic measures
[13:16] <blindcoder> grep `which udevd` /etc -R
[13:16] <netrunner> wonderful. hotplug.
[13:16] <blindcoder> great
[13:16] <netrunner> who had the idea to switch to hotplug.
[13:17] <blindcoder> just about anyone :)
[13:17] <blindcoder> because we should switch to udev anyway
[13:17] <netrunner> you think it is safe to use it?
[13:17] <blindcoder> no idea
[13:18] Action: netrunner being brave
[13:18] <blindcoder> good boy :)
[13:18] <blindcoder> I'll probably try in a test-machine
[13:18] <netrunner> I try it on gf's machine :)
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[13:20] <blindcoder> hehe
[13:26] <blindcoder> sweet
[13:27] <blindcoder> my new dual-processor board works :D
[13:27] <blindcoder> and there's a nice switch in bios: This switch prohibits any software from reading the unique serial number of the processor
[13:33] <blindcoder> hmm
[13:33] <blindcoder> cpu2 ~100 degree celsius
[13:33] <blindcoder> doesn't look healthy to me
[13:42] <blindcoder> hmm
[13:47] <blindcoder> 36 and 33 degree
[13:47] <blindcoder> much better :D
[13:49] <blindcoder> now I'm waiting for the minimal pentium III compile to finish :)
[14:10] <blindcoder> okay, temperature now stable at 43 and 40 degree celsius
[14:15] <th> clifford: ping?
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[15:32] <blindcoder> gnarf
[15:33] <blindcoder> bootdisk doesn't have support for console on serial port
[15:33] <daja77> bootdisk doesn't build correctly here atm
[15:34] <blindcoder> worked fine here
[15:34] <blindcoder> as of rev 5479
[15:35] <daja77> it is lacking the isofs directory and isofs.txt file, strange
[15:36] <blindcoder> hmm
[16:03] <owl> moin
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[16:26] <blindcoder> moin armijn!
[16:26] <blindcoder> hmm, stone -dialog doesn't work on serial console :(
[16:26] <armijn> heh
[16:27] <armijn> was surfing and thought I'd drop by to say hi
[16:27] <blindcoder> nice idea :)
[16:27] <blindcoder> how's life been treating you?
[16:29] <daja77> hi armijn 
[16:29] <armijn> OK I guess
[16:29] <blindcoder> daja77: I'm currently recording an installation of minimal ROCK using script :D
[16:35] <armijn> hmm, no SunNetwork conference in Barcelona...bummer
[16:41] <armijn> so, what's going to be so good in 2.0.4?
[16:42] <blindcoder> th: your question :)
[16:42] <armijn> convince me.
[16:43] <armijn> I won't use it, but it will be a good training :D
[16:46] <blindcoder> I can't convince anyone
[16:46] <blindcoder> not enough rhetorical power :)
[16:46] <th> oh highlight
[16:46] <th> hi armijn 
[16:46] <armijn> hi th
[16:47] <th> armijn: i dont want to convince anyone ;)
[16:47] <armijn> https://www.whatthehack.org/
[16:51] <th> ahh nice
[16:51] <owl> *jump* now we've a stylish room ;)
[16:52] <armijn> owl: one without computers?
[16:54] <th> perhaps only apple hardware ;)
[16:54] <th> armijn: did you have serious questions about rock-stable?
[16:55] <armijn> th: no, not really :)
[16:55] <armijn> maybe about devel...
[16:56] <armijn> what about embedded PowerPC thingies
[16:56] <armijn> I read something about that
[16:56] <owl> armijn: nah. one with a swotich at the door, one pc to watch tv, 2 laptops, 2 lava-lamps, one cd-case, and a rocket lamp
[16:56] <owl> second, will take some photos ;)
[16:56] <armijn> 2 laptops? :S
[16:56] <armijn> 2 lavalamps? :S
[16:57] <owl> 2 laptops. my bf's one and my new one ;)
[16:57] <armijn> why would you need 2 lavalmamps?
[16:57] <armijn> -m
[16:57] <armijn> boyfriends are overrated
[16:57] <owl> cuz it looks cool
[16:58] <armijn> looking cool is overrated too :)
[16:58] <owl> *ggg* why?
[16:59] <armijn> because.
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[17:02] <owl> becasue? ;)
[17:04] <tcr> moin all.
[17:04] <owl> hmm. there are still problems with swsuspend and usb, aren't there?
[17:07] <blindcoder> hi tcr
[17:07] <blindcoder> sorry for lag I'm multitasking with preparing lunch
[17:08] Action: daja77 thinking of a threaded blindcoder 
[17:09] Action: blindcoder thinking of multiple blindcoders
[17:09] Action: daja77 fears
[17:09] <owl> hi daja77 , blindcoder 
[17:10] <daja77> hi owl
[17:10] <blindcoder> hi owl 
[17:11] <owl> how many blindys there are? - so, how many i have to greet? ;p
[17:12] <blindcoder> okay, I guess I'll be eating in an hour or so
[17:20] <owl>  https://thenull.funpic.de/weblog/index.php?op=ViewAlbum&albumId=16&blogId=1 <- our room... 
[17:23] <armijn> BORING
[17:23] Action: armijn runs
[17:23] <armijn> no owl piccies?
[17:24] <blindcoder> hehe
[17:24] <owl> piccies?
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[17:24] <rolla> re
[17:25] <owl> hi rolla 
[17:25] <owl> how are you?
[17:25] <rolla> hallo owl 
[17:25] <rolla> gute
[17:25] <rolla> und du?
[17:25] <tcr> armijn, probably to the defence of all possible visitors. <:)
[17:25] <armijn> owl: yeah, piccies...
[17:25] <armijn> tcr: I wouldn't know, never seen owl...
[17:25] <rolla> I have
[17:26] <owl> *confused* piccies? pictures? or what do you mean?
[17:26] <armijn> owl: yeah...piccies :)
[17:26] <owl> ah :p well. they're my own pics ;p
[17:26] <armijn> right.
[17:27] <armijn> well...probably I'm not missing that much >-)
[17:28] <owl> *ggg* there are two interestings things: the laptop and the room :p
[17:28] <tcr> armijn, I don't think she's that dumb that you can play such an obvious fool on her. :)
[17:29] <armijn> tcr: hey, I can try...
[17:29] <tcr> ATTN: Enterprise on Sat1 in a few seconds.
[17:30] <owl> armijn: here's a pic: https://thenull.funpic.de/weblog/resserver.php?blogId=1&resource=Eule.jpg
[17:31] <armijn> "phasers feuren!"
[17:31] <armijn> I can't understand how you can look at the synced version...
[17:32] <armijn> owl: ah...better take a shave next time >-)
[17:32] <owl> *ggg* :p
[17:33] <tcr> armijn, Better than nudding.
[17:34] <armijn> but it's weird that the sound and the lips don't match
[17:35] <tcr> Don't know, the german translation isn't /that/ bad.
[17:36] <armijn> probably because you're uesd to ti
[17:36] <armijn> s/ti/it/
[17:36] <armijn> can't type today
[17:36] <tcr> No, because I don't look at the lips. :P
[17:36] <tcr> There are, err, more interesting things to look at ;)
[17:37] <armijn> "special effects"
[17:37] <owl> .oO( how's the file called, where you normally set your locales?) 
[17:37] <tcr> .profile
[17:38] <owl> nah. systemwide...
[17:38] <tcr> /etc/profile ?
[17:38] <armijn>  /etc/profile? :)
[17:39] <owl> aaaah... /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
[17:39] <owl> thx. ;p
[17:40] <owl> what is recommended? posix or c, ...?
[17:41] <blindcoder> it's the same
[17:41] <owl> oh. well. thx ;)
[17:41] <armijn> I'd go for traditional chinese...
[17:41] <armijn> my X-box was set to that, very irritating
[17:42] <owl> O_o i believe so
[17:43] <armijn> and no, I'm not running Linux on it, or going to run Linux on it
[17:45] <tcr> Bah
[17:45] <blindcoder> I thought that was a given ;P
[17:46] <tcr> The eyebrowes of Jolene Blalock are shimmering through the makeup
[17:46] <armijn> I mean, right now I've got an X-box and can play games and everything...with Linux I'd have a slow Celeron PC with a small harddisk...
[17:46] Action: blindcoder direct armijn to happypenguin.org :)
[17:47] <armijn> they don't have burn out 3
[17:48] <blindcoder> bah, the only game you'll ever need it nethack, anyway :P
[17:49] <tcr> What OS is the xbox running normally?
[17:49] <netrunner> sweet. are cats always that in love with it equipment?
[17:49] <netrunner> *pushingcatfromkeyboard*
[17:49] <tcr> netrunner, which equipment?
[17:49] <tcr> ah, IT.
[17:50] <netrunner> curently she is rolled on a 2.5" 30GB harddisk :)
[17:50] <tcr> Yeah, they are. At least when they'll get your attention by that.
[17:51] <netrunner> is anybody here using windows xp with wlan btw?
[17:52] <tcr> I configured it for a friend once.
[17:52] <netrunner> it's weird. it repeatedly looses the connection every few minutes, only to regain it instantly.
[17:53] <blindcoder> that's about my experience, too.
[17:53] <netrunner> not very nice for data transfers.
[17:53] <netrunner> blindcoder: no solution in sight?
[17:54] <armijn> right, food time, then I'm off to spit on the german border
[17:54] <armijn> cu
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[17:54] <blindcoder> netrunner: well, it shouldn't really matter
[17:55] <blindcoder> I have that with my centrino laptop, too
[17:55] <netrunner> one more reason not to use that os.
[17:55] <blindcoder> which is running rock
[17:56] <netrunner> oh? my centrino never looses link.
[17:56] <blindcoder> maybe I should just update the kernel module from 0.9x-something :)
[18:02] <SMP> speaking of that---which driver to use to get scanning support for a hermes module?
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[18:03] <SMP> (and why the &/!%"§ does the 2.6 kernel hermes driver not already support that?)
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[18:24] <SMP> 51 out of 61 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file ./orinoco.c.rej
[18:24] <SMP> ...
[18:44] <rolla> yawn
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[19:52] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[19:52] <esden> hi blindcoder 
[19:52] <esden> humm ... you remember me of something ;)
[19:52] <blindcoder> of what?
[19:52] <esden> getting my stuff from your parents ;)
[19:53] <blindcoder> heh
[19:53] <blindcoder> yeeees
[19:53] <blindcoder> that should be done soon or they're going to auction it at ebay :P
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[20:42] <netcrow> ah, esden @ bitz?
[20:42] <esden> ack
[20:42] <netcrow> who`s there?
[20:56] <netcrow> mh, esden?
[20:56] <esden> XNeon
[20:56] <esden> and me
[21:03] <blindcoder> whoever that may be
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