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[10:52] <netrunner> [anders]: he didn't appear so far :) [11:04] BoS (~bodo@dsl-082-082-250-067.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:18] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-127.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "received signal: SIGIDIOT" [12:36] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-127.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "received signal: SIGIDIOT" [12:36] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-127.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:37] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-127.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:38] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-127.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:39] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-127.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:39] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-127.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:44] <netrunner> just another error that is not catched. what happened to our build scripts? [12:47] <blindcoder> moin [13:24] treo (~xfman@D97a1.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:26] <treo> moin [14:14] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAB629.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:31] <treo> bye [14:31] treo (~xfman@D97a1.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [14:52] <blindcoder> hehe [14:52] <blindcoder> grub on serial line :) [14:52] <blindcoder> this is sweet ;) [14:55] <netrunner> that's easy :) [14:55] <blindcoder> yes [14:56] <blindcoder> and once you find out that /boot/vmlinz is not a symlink to vmlinux_$ver (as initrd.img is) you also get a console on ttyS0 :) [14:57] <blindcoder> (never mind typos) [14:57] <netrunner> blindcoder: I understand you perfectly :) [14:58] Action: netrunner nowadays more often reboots his pcs since bootsplash works fine now :) [14:58] <blindcoder> heh [14:58] <blindcoder> nah, I just removed the vga card from my server-to-be [14:58] <netrunner> I once sold it :) [14:58] <blindcoder> now I'm trying to think of things that need to be installed on it and I've forgetten [14:59] <netrunner> blindcoder: that's what I am currently trying in a qemu. nice thing that one. [14:59] <blindcoder> indeed :) [14:59] <netrunner> blindcoder: I have installed my recent server build and try to see if it does what I want. [14:59] <blindcoder> probably not :) [14:59] <blindcoder> hell knows what it is you want *run* [15:00] <blindcoder> oh well, guess I'll make lunch now [15:00] <blindcoder> the kitchen is fixed as is the power grid [15:00] <blindcoder> so I guess I deserve some good food now :D [15:00] <blindcoder> bbl [15:00] <netrunner> an guadn [15:06] <blindcoder> bah [15:06] <blindcoder> need to cook the rice first [16:00] batok (~director@200.52.202.130) joined #rocklinux. [16:52] batok (~director@200.52.202.130) left #rocklinux. [16:57] tcr (~tcr@pD9EAB053.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:40] <netrunner> https://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005042739,00.html [18:47] <owl> someone has a pumpgun for me? [18:56] <blindcoder> sure, but no ammunition [18:56] <owl> dammit. :( [18:57] <owl> but - i now can understand people who kill others... [18:58] Action: blindcoder asks himself if he wants to know... [18:58] <owl> school is just there, that teacher are learning stuff educated from the pupils, isn't it? [19:01] <owl> why are teachers always those fscking "nagervergewaltiger"?!!! [19:03] <blindcoder> they are fucking hamsters/ [19:03] <blindcoder> ? [19:04] <owl> nope. they're fscking mice... or why else do they want a GUI everytime? [19:04] <blindcoder> hehe [19:04] <blindcoder> the mouse as an HID is way overrated [19:04] <blindcoder> I mean [19:04] <blindcoder> look at _any_ science fiction movie [19:05] <blindcoder> I've fscking _never_ seen anything else but a keyboard in one [19:05] <owl> well. but it' soooooooooooooo comfortable. [19:05] <owl> hehe. ack. [19:05] <blindcoder> do they want a _G_UI or just a _UI_? [19:06] <owl> well. i have nothing against mice.. but - imho someone sohould be able to choose and so... [19:06] <owl> GUI... [19:06] <blindcoder> you know, simple write(stdout and read(stdin is also a UI :) [19:06] <blindcoder> yes, and they choose to make you create a GUI :D [19:06] <daja77> blindcoder: what the hell were you doin in that kitchen? [19:07] <blindcoder> making dinner [19:07] <owl> *g* yeah. but they want a project with presentation & documentation ... and want the pupils to explain the crap... and: the only things which are strictly needed: accesing a DB, having a GUI, wirting doc and having presentation. [19:07] <blindcoder> owl: ah, so you're talking about the "Abschlusspruefung" for FIAE [19:07] <owl> blindcoder: yes. they... but not /me chosing [19:08] <owl> blindcoder: bwahahahahaahahahaha. nope. "berufsschulunterricht"... [19:08] <blindcoder> well, you want them to give you a good mark so just cope with it [19:08] <blindcoder> my teacher wanted to throw me out because he was afraid of me hacking the school network with my linux laptopt through the power grid(!) [19:09] <blindcoder> so just be reminded that "Lehrjahre sind keine Herrenjahre" [19:09] <owl> last year - there was a external person who told us stuff about databases(/php/etc. - this year, nobody explains us such a stuff.. now the pupils are teaching the teaser... aeh. teacher [19:09] <blindcoder> yes, that was how it was in my school days, too [19:09] <blindcoder> it's normal [19:10] <owl> blindcoder: hehehe. did i mention that 'FI*'-training is senseless? [19:10] <blindcoder> it is [19:10] <blindcoder> it always has been [19:10] <blindcoder> but it's the system [19:10] <blindcoder> if you don't like it, you're free to emigrate to the US [19:10] <owl> to the US? O_o no, never. [19:10] <blindcoder> then don't complain, it's as easy as that [19:11] <owl> nope. [19:11] Action: blindcoder hands owl some realityf [19:11] <owl> it's not easy. i'm not doing an training as 'arschlochgucker', but as programmer [19:12] <owl> reality? i guess all here is real... i mean the life around me... but - why not trying to change it? [19:12] <blindcoder> you're not, that's the problem [19:12] <blindcoder> did you argue reasonable with the teacher? [19:12] <blindcoder> and not like "GUIs are shit"? [19:12] <owl> blindcoder: i wasn't at school for weeks... i've just heared that we have to do it... [19:13] <blindcoder> well, then maybe you should have been at school [19:14] <owl> why? to hear the teacher's crap and cutting again? nah... (and: i still won't be at school for some weeks... cuz of my insomnie) [19:14] <owl> a [19:14] <blindcoder> sooo.... you're complaining about something you don't have to do because you won't be at school anyway? [19:15] <owl> well. i 'm quite sure that i have to do it... cuz the teacher will mark it... [19:15] <blindcoder> then you can still have a reasonable argument about user interfaces with him [19:16] <owl> why? [19:16] <blindcoder> I want to have your attention span >_< [19:16] <owl> hm? [19:16] <blindcoder> didn't you just flame about how you hate it to have to make a gui? [19:17] <owl> i hate many things... i hate it, to teach a teaser. i hate it to explain some dumb people the stuff i have to do. and i hate all the crap here (docu, presentation) [19:18] <blindcoder> they're part of the FIAE job [19:18] <blindcoder> if you don't like it, change jobs [19:18] <blindcoder> otherwise you can emigrate to the US where they still have cubicles [19:18] <blindcoder> but I doubt you'll be safe from docu and presentation there, anyway [19:19] <owl> why part of my job? how many peple have you seen writing a doc about "some strange DB with even more strange programming-language with random-chosen-project for dumb people"? [19:19] <blindcoder> just about any FIAE (and FISI, btw) that I've seen [19:20] <blindcoder> which amount to roughly 6 "jahrgaenge" with at least 10 groups each [19:20] <blindcoder> so round about 600 [19:20] <netcrow> no one forces you to work with the fiae/fisi-apprenticeship [19:20] <owl> omfg. [19:20] <blindcoder> netcrow: indeed [19:21] <netcrow> owl: its your choice! [19:21] <owl> netcrow: well. what to choose? shit, shit and even more shit? [19:22] <netcrow> take another job? [19:22] <owl> netcrow: which one? examples? who wants a FIAE? [19:24] <netcrow> "ausgelernt?" [19:24] <owl> netcrow: not yet. but - if you are in state of being 'ausgelernt' [20:13] <tcr> owl: Be smart. Write a flexible once and for all, than reuse that one. [20:13] <tcr> +GUI [20:13] <owl> tcr: nah. will write something which could be used for my project, too.... but -it's still senseless... [20:16] Action: blindcoder hands owl xdialog [20:17] <blindcoder> "What? *innocent smile* It's a GUI, no?" 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