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[00:07] jackflash2 (~jf@cpc1-rdng8-4-0-cust146.winn.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:01] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8E539.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [06:19] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8E538.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:19] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [07:27] BoS^afk (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-040.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:31] BoS^afk (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-040.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:33] Nick change: BoS^afk -> BoS [08:16] <blindcoder> moin [08:36] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.27) joined #rocklinux. [08:40] <blindcoder> moin mnemoc [08:48] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:49] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [08:53] <[anders-mcafee]> moin [08:54] <blindcoder> moin [anders-mcafee] [08:59] <netrunner> hm. someone from IN coming to ltc? [09:10] Action: blindcoder :) [09:10] <blindcoder> I am :) [09:10] <daja77> netrunner: feeling better? [09:13] <blindcoder> daja77: news from miguel? [09:13] <daja77> no [09:16] <blindcoder> :( [09:16] <daja77> ok will sleep a bit more before goin to clt [09:17] <blindcoder> good night :) [09:20] <blindcoder> GRAAAH [09:21] <blindcoder> THIS SOFTWARE IS SUCH A BIG HUGE PILE OF CRAP [09:21] <blindcoder> if you name the server "foo" and the client "foo-bar" then the client chokes because the name "foo" is already assigned! [09:21] <blindcoder> ARGH [10:07] <fake> moin [10:25] <blindcoder> moin fake [10:26] Action: fake again links to operation.cntrcpy.com [10:26] <fake> i'm just finishing the last tests ;) [10:29] <blindcoder> what is that link? [10:30] <blindcoder> I haven't understood it the last time I don't understand it now [10:31] <fake> it's an art project of a free artist group here in vienna [10:31] <fake> calling it a 'game' would be unfair. [10:31] <blindcoder> hmm [10:32] <blindcoder> well, art is the art of imagination [10:32] <fake> it shows that no myriards of dollars and special technology is needed to got to mars - it can be done with a cellphone and a browser ;) [10:33] Action: blindcoder ordering licenses from megalostupid company^W^WSun [10:49] <blindcoder> msnbot is out of control... [10:49] <blindcoder> more than one third of requests in march have been by msnbot [10:50] <blindcoder> mirroring whole mailinglist archives, subversion trees and whatnot [10:51] <blindcoder> s/mirroring/crawling/ [10:51] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: so they can tinker with the content no doubt [11:06] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: hoeh? [11:06] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: blindcoder confused [11:09] <[anders-mcafee]> heh [11:09] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: if MSN caches the data (mirror it if you wish) they can 'serve' it more effectively and more accurately (for M$) [11:11] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: then I wish them much fun with the rockdoc commit mailinglist archive, the LVP subversion repository and the Nethack Farming Bot subversion tree :) [11:11] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: oh but ofcourse.. :) [11:13] Action: blindcoder looking forward to 16:30 today [11:47] [anders] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [11:52] [anders]1 (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [11:55] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:03] Nick change: [anders] -> [anders-mcafee] [12:04] [anders]_ (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:16] <netrunner> daja77: sorry, I won't be able to come :( [12:17] <netrunner> blindcoder: do you go c->in afterwards? (or maybe some not so long time afterwards?) [12:26] <blindcoder> netrunner: no, back to berlin [12:26] <blindcoder> netrunner: but I go to IN at the easter weekend (25th) :) [12:28] <daja77> hm i increased the size of cd4 by 200mb [12:30] <blindcoder> w00t [12:30] <blindcoder> only games? [12:30] <blindcoder> well, still fits onto a DVD :) [12:31] Action: daja77 kicks blindcoder once more [12:31] <blindcoder> ouch [12:31] <blindcoder> what? [12:31] <daja77> i should stop that, i fi don't want to be alone at clt [12:32] <blindcoder> heh :) [12:32] <blindcoder> don't worry, my company pays, so I'll be there no matter what [12:32] <blindcoder> and NO [12:32] <blindcoder> that doesn't mean you can start kicking me now :P [12:32] <daja77> damn [12:32] <daja77> ;) [12:32] Action: blindcoder runs away to start installing a SunBlade 150 [12:32] <blindcoder> bbiab [12:32] <daja77> cu [12:35] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: "Mesen orrrf..." [12:42] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-155-014.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:42] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-157-068.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:42] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [12:50] <blindcoder> back [13:02] <blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/200502 [13:02] <blindcoder> any comments? [13:20] <th> yea [13:20] <th> please add something like "still no decision for subdomains has been made" [13:32] <blindcoder> okay [13:33] <blindcoder> added [13:35] <blindcoder> This is also a good place to start if you want to be a ROCK developer. [13:35] <blindcoder> added to the "Unmaintained packages" section [13:35] <th> yes [13:42] <netrunner> blindcoder: you're the only one from bavaria who goes to ltc, no? [13:42] <netrunner> (since I am starting to get fever now :( ) [13:42] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes. praenti has no money and fake will move on this weekend [13:46] <daja77> s/bavaria// [13:47] <blindcoder> daja77: o_O [13:47] <netrunner> daja77: one from who goes to ltc? [13:48] Action: netrunner wonders where who is. sounds chinese [13:49] <blindcoder> who? - no, where. - what? - Where. - What where? - Where is who? - Who? [13:50] <netrunner> who is the one? - who. - the one. - yes. - so who is the one? - yes. - yes? - no, who. - the one. ... [13:50] <blindcoder> hehe [13:50] <blindcoder> ITE :) [13:53] <blindcoder> brb [13:53] owl (~owl@karnaya.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:53] <owl> moin [14:09] <daja77> ok s/from bavaria// [14:10] <blindcoder> moin owl [14:10] <blindcoder> daja77: so you won't be there either? [14:10] <daja77> i am [14:11] <blindcoder> so I'm not the only one :) [14:11] <owl> hi blindcoder [14:12] Action: th adds koffice 1.3.1->1.3.5 and k3b 0.11.9->0.11.20 updates to the current kde-update tests. [14:40] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-129-094.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:50] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) got netsplit. [14:50] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-155-014.arcor-ip.net) got netsplit. [14:50] BoS (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-040.arcor-ip.net) got netsplit. [14:50] rolla (maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) got netsplit. [14:50] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) got netsplit. 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[14:51] clifford (~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) returned to #rocklinux. [14:52] <th> Package selection templates have the advantage over the above mentioned that they can easily be reused. The disadvantage is that you have to specify every single package you want. [14:52] <th> i disagress [14:52] <th> i disagree [14:54] <th> blindcoder: most pkgsel's we have select on repository [15:14] caligula (~caligula@200.69.223.249) joined #rocklinux. [15:14] <caligula> hi [15:14] <caligula> somebody can help to me? [15:15] <caligula> I try with DRBD [15:18] <caligula> why my 'cat /proc/mounts' is distint to 'mount output' [15:27] <blindcoder> same or different? [15:27] <caligula> #mount say: /dev/hda9 on /tmp type ext3 [15:27] <blindcoder> th: that can also be done, right [15:27] <caligula> # umount /dev/hda9: umount: /dev/hda9: not mounted [15:28] <blindcoder> mount reads /etc/mtab [15:28] <th> caligula: mount reads /etc/mtab [15:28] <th> heh [15:28] <blindcoder> :) [15:28] <th> caligula: try a cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab [15:28] <caligula> then? [15:28] <caligula> ok [15:29] <caligula> but why mtab is not updated? [15:29] <th> caligula: might happen when it is on a readonly fs [15:31] <caligula> ok, work fine [15:31] <caligula> why I will use Rock Linux? [15:32] <th> caligula: will you? [15:33] <caligula> Rock Linux is a good choice for servers? [15:33] <caligula> o for workstations? [15:33] <th> for me it's a good choice for both of them [15:33] <caligula> why? [15:33] <blindcoder> caligula: you know, asking here you will get answers that just _might_ be biased :) [15:33] <caligula> ja [15:33] <caligula> ok [15:33] <th> blindcoder: like "better don't choose rocklinux"? [15:34] <blindcoder> th: something like that :) [15:34] <caligula> anyone have experience with DRBD? [15:34] <th> what's that? [15:34] <blindcoder> fake has, I think [15:34] <th> Gee... I don't know what drbd means... [15:34] <blindcoder> Dual Redundand Block Device [15:34] <th> ahh [15:35] <caligula> fake, you can helpme? [15:35] <blindcoder> something the company clifford works at developed [15:35] <caligula> th, is a LAN RAID 1 [15:35] <blindcoder> caligula: better try again after the weekend. He's probably preparing his move which is due this weekend [15:36] <caligula> ah ok [15:36] <th> caligula: why is it called "block" device then? LAN sounds char-based to me. [15:37] <caligula> DRBD is used for replicate block device in remote hosts [15:37] <th> i see [15:37] <caligula> like RAID 1 but over a network [15:37] <th> ok [15:38] <th> reminds me of iSCSI [15:38] <caligula> what's iSCSI? [15:38] <caligula> hardware or software? [15:38] <th> scsi over ip [15:38] <th> you can do it in full software with standard nic's [15:39] <th> or you can outsource the ip-load [15:39] <caligula> is a path to linux kernel? [15:39] <th> with special host adapters [15:39] <th> caligula: yes [15:39] <caligula> I need special hardware then? [15:39] <th> or you can even do all iSCSI on controllers [15:39] <th> < th> you can do it in full software with standard nic's [15:39] <th> you wont need special hardware then [15:42] <fake> blindcoder: i have no experience with it, i just know what it is [15:42] <blindcoder> fake: ah, okay [15:42] <fake> caligula: what is you question? but be warned, i have no idea, and i'm not afraid to admit that ;) [15:43] <caligula> hi [15:43] <caligula> I have 2 hosts configured with DRBD [15:43] <caligula> 0: cs:Connected st:Primary/Secondary ld:Consistent [15:43] <caligula> ns:10 nr:0 dw:10 dr:198 al:0 bm:22 lo:0 pe:0 ua:0 ap:0 [15:43] <caligula> 0: cs:Connected st:Secondary/Primary ld:Consistent [15:43] <caligula> ns:0 nr:10 dw:10 dr:0 al:0 bm:22 lo:0 pe:0 ua:0 ap:0 [15:44] <caligula> all ok [15:44] <caligula> but I can't mount DRBD device in secondary host [15:44] <caligula> Primary host: /dev/drbd/0 on /mnt type ext3 (rw) [15:45] <caligula> Secondary host say when I try mount /dev/drbd/0 [15:45] <caligula> /dev/drbd/0: Input/output error [15:45] <caligula> mount: block device /dev/drbd/0 is write-protected, mounting read-only [15:45] <caligula> /dev/drbd/0: Input/output error [15:45] <caligula> mount: /dev/drbd/0 already mounted or /mnt/ busy [15:46] <caligula> fake, you understand DRBD? [15:46] <blindcoder> is drbd meant to be mounted on both sides? [15:46] <caligula> yes [15:46] <th> one block device mounted twice? [15:46] <th> which filesystem will handle that? [15:47] <fake> caligula: i have no practical clue on drbd, never used it. you may hope for clifford to stop by... [15:47] <caligula> ok [16:50] tfing (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] tfing (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:14] treo (~xfman@Dba32.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:57] SteffenP (steffen@p549949D1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:59] tfing (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) left irc: "brb" [18:31] <daja77> hi fake [18:33] <treo> bye [18:33] treo (~xfman@Dba32.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [18:46] tfing (~tfing@devnull.roulaize.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:47] caligula (~caligula@200.69.223.249) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] Action: blindcoder back [18:52] <blindcoder> daja77: I got the posters [18:52] <blindcoder> came out quite nicely [18:52] <blindcoder> but you can see single pixels from up close [19:45] <fake> phew [19:45] <fake> just in time... [20:00] <blindcoder> for what? [20:02] <fake> a last-minute change to the game [20:02] <fake> now i'm gonna go there and listen to a speech of one of my bosses about 'the great achievements of soviet space travel technolgy' ;-)) [20:02] <blindcoder> ... [20:03] <fake> that's not ment for real. [20:03] <blindcoder> I know [20:03] <blindcoder> that's what worries me [20:03] <fake> ... i guess. [20:03] <fake> it's a fun event [22:09] <owl> remoin [22:33] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:33] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [22:40] SteffenP (steffen@p549949D1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [22:46] <daja77> fake: do you know if clifford left? [23:02] <mnemoc> daja77: news about mike? [23:02] <daja77> no [23:02] <daja77> but i just phoned clifford [23:03] <mnemoc> he? [23:03] <mnemoc> you [23:04] <mnemoc> :p [23:04] <mnemoc> clifford will talk in mike's place [23:04] <mnemoc> ? [23:09] Action: daja77 will talk for clifford [23:25] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:25] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [23:31] sroot (srt@201009250154.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined #rocklinux. [23:31] sroot (srt@201009250154.user.veloxzone.com.br) left #rocklinux. [23:52] BoS_ (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-040.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:56] BoS (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-040.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:00] --- Sat Mar 5 2005