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[05:03] <ojh> Has anyone been able to test the Zero-Install patch yet?
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[08:24] <blindcoder> daja77: !
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[11:16] <daja77> moin
[11:21] <blindcoder> moin moin
[11:21] <th> yo - moin
[12:13] <netrunner> moin
[12:21] Action: netrunner unpacking privateer remake
[12:22] <netrunner> whoever recommended this game will be guilty of the bad grade I'll get on tuesdays exam.
[12:23] Action: blindcoder pleads guilty
[12:32] <netrunner> where can I set my graphic options?
[12:34] <blindcoder> bin/setup
[12:34] <netrunner> hm. now I might have the link problems you mentioned :)
[12:35] <netrunner> how can it be that the game wants a newer libc than I have?
[12:35] <blindcoder> because that's what it was linked against?
[12:36] <netrunner> just wonder because usually rock has newer libs than anything distributed statically.
[12:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: can you give me a hint what you did to the game?
[12:38] <blindcoder> I symlinked libstdc++ from /lib with the name it wants
[12:38] <blindcoder> and I created these symlinks
[12:38] <netrunner> ok, there seems a wrong head call in vegastrike.sh ...
[12:39] <blindcoder> lrwxrwxrwx    1 blindcoder users             24 Mar 12 12:38 /home/blindcoder/.privateer100/setup.config -> ../privater/setup.config
[12:39] <blindcoder> lrwxrwxrwx    1 blindcoder users             29 Mar 12 12:38 /home/blindcoder/.privateer100/vegastrike.config -> ../privater/vegastrike.config
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[12:41] <netrunner> ah.
[12:41] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder
[12:42] <netrunner> is it normal that it responds quite bad on the launchpad?
[12:43] <blindcoder> what do you mean?
[12:49] <netrunner> mouse is quite slowly in the first screen.
[12:49] <netrunner> if I leave this launchpad, it is more fluent. flying is also ok as long as I don't switch to outside perspective.
[12:51] <blindcoder> lousy graphics card :)
[12:51] <netrunner> lower resolution is the same. 
[13:36] <netrunner> ah, now that I gave 64MB to my graphic card, it is fluent :)
[13:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: how much memory has your graka?
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[14:18] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:18] <blindcoder> netrunner: 64MB I think
[14:19] <netrunner> hm. tried a mission and died. think I will switch to easy.
[14:20] <blindcoder> that will crash your game
[14:20] <blindcoder> the installer doesn't install the easy/hard ai files
[14:21] <blindcoder> just start with patrol/cargo missions until you get a better ship/equipment
[14:21] <netrunner> blindcoder: I can copy them myself. they are in the archive, just not installed.
[14:21] <blindcoder> okay
[14:21] <netrunner> I have the original "Privateer - The Darkening" here :)
[14:21] <blindcoder> hehe
[14:22] <netrunner> always wondered if it would run under wine or so ..
[14:22] <blindcoder> heh
[14:23] <blindcoder> what about RF?
[14:23] <netrunner> rf?
[14:26] <blindcoder> Righteous Fire
[14:26] <blindcoder> the sequel to privateer
[14:34] <netrunner> ok. I got a cargo mission. now I was in space and tried to load that damn cargo into my ship. tried every key. even accidently fired on it. how do I load that thing? :)
[14:41] <blindcoder> you're cargo already is on your ship
[14:41] <blindcoder> the cargo that's floating in space is 'up for grabs'
[14:42] <blindcoder> you need a tractor beam to get it onto your ship
[14:42] <blindcoder> netrunner: https://priv.solsector.net/downloads/manual.pdf
[14:42] <blindcoder> there's also a key reference in there
[14:43] <netrunner> ah. this README is quite unreadable :)
[14:45] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:03] <netrunner> for cargo missions i need a jump drive. but I cannot afford one :(
[15:03] <blindcoder> then do in system patrol
[15:03] <blindcoder> or just buy stuff cheap and sell expensive :)
[15:03] <blindcoder> for example: food and beer to mining stations
[15:03] <netrunner> hm. will try.
[15:04] <blindcoder> iron and tungsten to agricultural planets
[15:28] <blindcoder> coffee tastes a lot better if you haven't had any for a week :)
[15:33] <netrunner> hm. I am not good at fights. maybe I should connect a mouse.
[15:34] <blindcoder> I have found fights to be easier with the keyboard
[15:34] <blindcoder> get a good gun first :)
[15:34] <blindcoder> the laser you start out with may be suited for killing mice in your basement but certainly not to take out enemy ships
[15:35] <blindcoder> I guess I'm now going to save for my third ship :)
[15:35] <blindcoder> and I finally found the bug that prevented me from releasing LVP 0.4.4 for so long
[15:36] <daja77> ah lvp that reminds me
[15:36] <blindcoder> daja77: hm?
[15:37] <daja77> there is a demand for creating a dvd with the clt talks on it, do you think lvp might do the job?
[15:37] <blindcoder> audio?
[15:37] <daja77> yep
[15:37] <blindcoder> or both audio and video?
[15:37] <daja77> no video iirc
[15:37] <daja77> hm perhaps one, good question ...
[15:37] <blindcoder> Tough.
[15:37] <daja77> hm?
[15:38] <daja77> and btw the dvd should also work when not booted
[15:38] <blindcoder> it is laid out for video files, not audio
[15:38] <daja77> means redable iso
[15:38] <blindcoder> so just don't encrypt the data :)
[15:38] <daja77> :D
[15:38] <daja77> is it that difficult to support audio files?
[15:39] <blindcoder> no, not at all
[15:39] <blindcoder> they work fine
[15:39] <blindcoder> problem is that there is no GUI for mplayer
[15:39] <blindcoder> only the command line version
[15:39] <daja77> gmplayer
[15:39] <blindcoder> which needs gnome, no?
[15:39] <daja77> hm perhaps i need to add a gui player
[15:40] <blindcoder> SDL
[15:40] <daja77> one that just needs gtk perhaps
[15:40] <blindcoder> the current iteration of LVP needs to be modified for this
[15:40] <blindcoder> the next one doesn't
[15:40] <blindcoder> so if you can wait a few months :D
[15:41] <daja77> nope, 2 or 3 weeks i have to wait anyway, dunno
[15:41] <blindcoder> guess I can hack something usable together until then
[15:41] <blindcoder> no usable release, though
[15:41] <blindcoder> the next iteration (0.5.0) won't use static linking anymore
[15:41] <blindcoder> but the method I also used in the rockinitrd package
[15:42] <blindcoder> meaning using ldd to get the libraries and then copying those library into the live system
[15:42] <daja77> ic
[15:42] <blindcoder> that means that all it would take to get what you want working means add SDL and --enable-gmplayer to mplayer package
[15:42] <daja77> yeah rocks
[15:43] <blindcoder> that way I can also add gqview to add images to LVP
[15:43] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:43] <blindcoder> let me get this release out (if this works now, should be by wednesday) and I'll start hacking something together
[15:43] <blindcoder> maybe it will even be usable as 0.5.0 release
[15:43] <blindcoder> we'll see
[15:44] <blindcoder> but if you have two or three weeks anyway then that's fine
[15:44] <daja77> dunno how fast we have the audio files and the permissions
[15:44] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:45] <blindcoder> okay, I'll probably start work on wednesday, plan with something usable maybe one to one and a half week later
[15:46] <daja77> ;)
[15:46] Action: blindcoder feels like he's been coaxed into doing something...
[15:47] <daja77> <- evil
[15:47] <blindcoder> tell me news... :)
[15:47] <daja77> just wanted to remind you ;-)
[15:47] <blindcoder> yeah, I almost forgot. Must be the family
[15:49] <blindcoder> *snif* my cup of coffee is empty :/
[15:49] <daja77> get a new one
[15:50] <blindcoder> I should abstain from the sugar 
[15:50] <blindcoder> and I can hardly drink coffee without sugar
[15:50] <daja77> i do not put sugr in it
[15:50] <daja77> so i can drink more of it ^^ 
[15:50] <blindcoder> you wish :P
[15:50] <blindcoder> this is _my_ coffee machine!
[15:50] <blindcoder> taking solid beans
[15:50] <daja77> poser
[15:51] <blindcoder> *pose*
[15:51] <daja77> :D
[15:51] Action: blindcoder does the cool-guy-pose
[15:51] <daja77> rofl
[15:52] Action: blindcoder looking forward to tomorrow
[15:55] <blindcoder> w00t
[15:55] <blindcoder> works ^^
[15:55] <daja77> what?
[15:55] <blindcoder> LVP :(
[15:55] <blindcoder> :)
[15:55] Action: blindcoder starts archiving some more anime
[15:55] <daja77> ^^
[15:55] <blindcoder> now with thumbnail pictures instead of white-on-grey buttons :D
[15:56] <daja77> hehe
[15:58] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:59] <blindcoder> fsfs is faster as svn backend you say?
[16:00] <daja77> yes
[16:00] <daja77> <- playing
[16:00] <blindcoder> okay, I'll switch my reps to fsfs then
[16:01] <blindcoder> daja77: have fun :)
[16:26] <owl> hi
[16:26] <blindcoder> moin owl
[16:26] <owl> hi blindcoder 
[16:34] <mnemoc> daja77,blindcoder: 8 more days and 'he' is sent back home
[16:36] <blindcoder> mnemoc: WOOOHOOOOOO
[16:39] <blindcoder> load cycle running
[16:39] <mnemoc> :)
[16:40] <blindcoder> GAH
[16:40] <blindcoder> another bug in LVP 0.4.4
[16:41] <mnemoc> :(
[16:41] <mnemoc> 0.4.4a
[16:41] <blindcoder> doesn't look fatal
[16:41] <blindcoder> just some " missing
[16:41] <mnemoc> :)
[16:42] Action: blindcoder running set -x and looking for the location
[17:10] <netrunner> hm. that trick with the better guns almost did it.
[17:11] <netrunner> how can I load while in flight?
[17:11] <daja77> load?
[17:12] <netrunner> a saved game. 
[17:12] <netrunner> when my ship got destroyed.
[17:13] <blindcoder> press Ctrl-D
[17:13] <blindcoder> to destroy your pod
[17:13] <blindcoder> then press ; to load your last savegame
[17:13] <netrunner> thing is pressing ; doesn't do anything.
[17:13] <blindcoder> have you saved earlier?
[17:13] <netrunner> jup.
[17:13] <blindcoder> then you're not pressing ; :)
[17:14] <netrunner> I do: ;;;;;;;;
[17:14] <netrunner> doesn't even work with &ouml;
[17:14] <blindcoder> strange
[17:15] <netrunner> well, I'll quit and restart, that loads also.
[17:15] <blindcoder> do you have the message to press ; ?
[17:33] <netrunner> yes.
[17:33] <netrunner> gotta go now. cu l8ter :)
[17:33] <blindcoder> bye
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[18:03] <comrad> hi
[18:04] <blindcoder> moin comrad 
[18:24] <owl> hi comrad 
[18:24] <comrad> moin
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[19:32] <daja77> hi commel
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[23:20] <netrunner> blindcoder: now that I increased my videoram size to 128MB I can even fly through the solar systems with the large asteroid fields.
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