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[08:18] <blindcoder> moin
[08:20] <netrunner> 1475 builds total, 1073 completed fine, 55 with errors.
[08:20] <netrunner> arg. almost there :)
[08:21] <blindcoder> narf
[08:21] <blindcoder> damn fscking stupid rotten debian-stable
[08:22] <blindcoder> now I know what they mean with the three debian flavors: stale, rotten, broken
[08:23] <blindcoder> 0-glibc23 choked already
[08:23] <blindcoder> with too old binutils
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[08:45] <blindcoder> okay
[08:45] <blindcoder> no chance compiling ROCK on a debian system
[08:46] <blindcoder> though it might be because of the gcc version
[08:50] <netrunner> which is not really a good thing.
[08:52] <blindcoder> well
[08:52] <blindcoder> gcc-2.95.4 failed to build 0-glibc23
[08:52] <blindcoder> which is sort of expected
[08:52] <netrunner> but it shrinks our potential userbase dramatically.
[08:53] <blindcoder> that's what buildbootstrap and source dvds are for :P
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[09:04] <blindcoder> ah
[09:04] <blindcoder> glibc built now
[09:05] <blindcoder> but binutils faled
[09:06] <blindcoder> flex missing...
[09:06] <blindcoder> I know why I _hate_ debian
[09:22] <netrunner> is there any special reason why the 2.0.3 crystal-emu iso is only 100MB?
[09:23] <netrunner> th: ?
[09:26] <netrunner> ah, firefox decided to be finished after 15%
[09:26] <blindcoder> o_O
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[09:40] <owl> oops.moin
[09:42] <blindcoder> moinmoin
[09:42] <blindcoder> WEE, reached stage 1
[09:45] <netrunner> owl: oops, too
[09:47] <owl> netrunner: why? btw, you're in st.petersburg, now?
[09:49] <netrunner> owl: no, departure is 1730
[09:50] <owl> netrunner: ah. ok
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[10:13] <blindcoder> daja77: ping
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[10:15] <owl> hi netrunner
[10:16] <owl> aeh nookie
[10:16] <blindcoder> heh
[10:16] <netrunner> hi owl
[10:17] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:17] Action: blindcoder needs a hostname for his server
[10:17] <blindcoder> pallas sounds nice
[10:17] <netrunner> if DLCool joins here when I am gone, tell him his book has arrived.
[10:17] <netrunner> (in time)
[10:17] Action: blindcoder hands netrunner MemoServ
[10:18] <netrunner> blindcoder: that's only for registered users, no?
[10:19] <blindcoder> aren't you registered now?
[10:19] <netrunner> blindcoder: can I use memoserv to send to anotherone a message?
[10:20] <blindcoder> I think so, yes
[10:20] <blindcoder> 10:21 -MemoServ(MemoServ@services.)- Memo has been recorded for [netrunner]
[10:21] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes, but that works because I am registered imho.
[10:22] <blindcoder> yes
[10:22] <blindcoder> ah, so he isn't registered
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[10:22] <netrunner> Both sender and recipient must have their nicknames registered with NickServ
[10:38] Action: netrunner 's laptop now compiles kdepim since 2 hours
[10:38] <blindcoder> heh
[10:38] <blindcoder> and will for some more time :)
[10:40] <netrunner> blindcoder: wesnoth cksum error
[10:42] <blindcoder> version?
[10:42] <netrunner> download/mirror/w/wesnoth-0.8.8.tar.gz.cksum-err
[10:42] <blindcoder> 8.10 is in trunk
[10:42] <blindcoder> if not 8.11
[10:43] <netrunner> well, I have trunk here. let me see...
[10:43] <blindcoder> [V] 0.8.11
[10:43] <netrunner> ah, really. wonder why it didn't download the new file.
[10:43] <netrunner> ah, it did.
[10:45] Action: blindcoder installing a buildbootstrap now for building ROCK
[10:46] <blindcoder> screw debian :P
[10:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: I sent the result of a find download -name *cksum-err to the rlml, because I assume most are from my download for the current build.
[10:46] <netrunner> might be some old liggerings though :)
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[10:56] <owl> hi madtux
[10:57] <madtux> hello eule :)
[11:10] <blindcoder> hi madtux!
[11:11] <blindcoder> okay, let's see if I forgot anything
[11:11] <blindcoder> network config, check
[11:11] <madtux> blindy!
[11:11] <blindcoder> bootloader, check
[11:11] <blindcoder> root password, check
[11:11] <blindcoder> ssh key, check
[11:11] <blindcoder> runlevel, check
[11:11] <madtux> ok folks the madtux needs to get some sleep.. i will come back later
[11:12] <blindcoder> good night :)
[11:12] <madtux> danke :)
[11:12] <blindcoder> netrunner: think I forgot something?
[11:12] <blindcoder> for booting a ROCK installation remote?
[11:14] <blindcoder> guess I just have to try :/
[11:14] <blindcoder> fstab!
[11:16] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:16] <blindcoder> would have worked anyway
[11:19] <blindcoder> w00t
[11:19] <blindcoder> worked :D
[11:20] <blindcoder> okay
[11:20] <blindcoder> so, do I work myself from the bbs up or do I build a crystal?
[11:23] <blindcoder> guess I'l work up
[11:24] Action: blindcoder lunch
[11:39] <owl> blindcoder: guten hunger
[11:57] <blindcoder> danke :)
[12:10] <netrunner> hm, me also getting hungry.
[12:57] Action: fake patching openldap
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[12:58] <DLCool> Hi All :)
[13:00] <netrunner> DLCool: hi :)
[13:00] <blindcoder> hi DLCool
[13:00] <blindcoder> moin fake
[13:01] <netrunner> DLCool: your book arrived and is already in my suitcase
[13:01] <DLCool> You are best :)
[13:02] <netrunner> you're welcome
[13:03] <netrunner> sistertaxi picks me up in one hour
[13:18] <fake> hey
[13:18] <fake> look at that: man 8 syslogd
[13:18] <fake> search for "SECURITY THREADS"
[13:18] <fake> *THREATS
[13:18] <fake> and read nr. 5
[13:19] <blindcoder> suck rod :D
[13:20] <blindcoder> lots and for dealing with the occasional recalcitrant or belligerent individual :D
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[13:28] <blindcoder> hi clifford
[13:29] <clifford> moin
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[13:30] <blindcoder> clifford: any decision wrt. subdomains?
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[13:31] <blindcoder> I'm finally setting up my fixed IP 10MBit Connection server :-)
[13:34] <owl> O_o might you want to send me a bit of the too much money? ;p
[13:35] <blindcoder> owl: what's too much at 29EUR / month?
[13:35] <blindcoder> owl: OTOH, maybe you should get back to work
[13:35] <blindcoder> you know, this money doesn't just mysteriously appear on my bank account
[13:36] <owl> blindcoder: huch? 29 EUR/month? O_o
[13:36] <owl> blindcoder: i am at work - or better at homeoffice, just lurking sometimes into irc
[13:36] <owl> but 'ausbildungsgehalt' is extremely bad
[13:37] <blindcoder> owl: yes. 100GB HD, Athlon XP 2200, 512MB RAM, 160GB free traffic per month
[13:37] <owl> blindcoder: nice! where?
[13:37] <blindcoder> hetzner.de
[13:37] <owl> O_o
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[13:42] <owl> hrmpf. those "kaesespaetzle" are tasting very strange. tasting like "tiefkuehlkaesespaetzle" *pukes*
[13:51] <fake> i just ate jellyfish (qualle)
[13:53] <owl> fake: hopefully it's taste was better than my imagination tells me that it tastes... *cough* hi btw
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[14:04] Action: netrunner driving to airport
[14:05] <owl> bye netrunner. good flight
[14:06] <netrunner> thx
[14:22] <fake> okay
[14:22] <fake> im really freaking out now
[14:22] <fake> how the fuck can i tell openldap to log *ANYTHING* to a syslog facility?
[14:30] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:57] <mnemoc> fake: -d :)
[14:58] <mnemoc> fake: it's a bit based integer
[14:58] <mnemoc> i use 32 + 64 + 128
[15:00] <fake> mnemoc: i know
[15:00] <fake> mnemoc: i need regular logging during production use
[15:00] <fake> mnemoc: i found the problem.
[15:01] <fake> mnemoc: you need to pass --enable-debug to configure to get anything from it
[15:01] <fake> mnemoc: otherwise all the debug macros get replaced by nothing
[15:03] <mnemoc> oh
[15:04] <mnemoc> var_remove confopt ' ' '--disable-debug' ?
[15:05] <fake> no
[15:05] <fake> var_append confopt '--enable-debug'
[15:05] <fake> extraconfopt, to be correct
[15:05] <mnemoc> yes
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[16:22] <th> how can this be? kernel kill because of "Out of Memory" situation but did not use the swap
[16:26] <blindcoder> there's some way for processes to say "don't use swap" IIRC
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[17:19] <th> blindcoder: is there a kernel-wide setting for this?
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[17:23] <fake> th: kernel memory is not swapable
[17:23] <th> fake: i'm talking about userland memory
[17:23] <fake> th: oops.
[17:23] <fake> th: that shouldn't happen
[17:23] <th> fake: a python script gets killed because of oom
[17:24] <th> and there is 4GB of free swapspace
[17:24] <fake> it's registered? cat /proc/swaps
[17:24] <th> it is
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[17:24] <fake> can you test with any other application?
[17:24] <th> it's even slightly used
[17:24] <fake> maybe it's a python thing
[17:25] <th> yea - lets create a small c mem eater
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[17:29] <th> size=500;
[17:29] <th> bigbuf = malloc(1024 * 1024 * size);
[17:29] <th> printf("malloc succeeded.\n");
[17:29] <th> memset(bigbuf, 23, 1024 * 1024 * size);
[17:29] <th> malloc succeeded.
[17:29] <th> Killed
[17:29] <th> that happens on a machine with 128MB wired RAM
[17:29] <th> and succeeds on a machine with 1GB wired RAM
[17:30] <th> both have > 3GB swap
[17:30] <th> can anyone please confirm that?
[17:30] <th> https://thzn.de/memeater.c
[17:31] <th> i obviously dont understand how swapping works
[17:33] <DLCool> can anybody help me to config network interface for ADSL (PPP over ATM) ?
[17:34] <th> over ATM?
[17:34] <fake> th: try more smalle mallocs
[17:36] <DLCool> I added ip..., gw..., nameserver... params in stone. But cant run atm0 interface.
[17:37] <th> DLCool: are you sure you want a "atm0" interface?
[17:38] <th> DLCool: not just the ppp0 interface which is run on eth*?
[17:38] <th> fake: i'd need to adapt the python script then
[17:38] <th> fake: i can't believe i cant get a big chunk from memory which is swapped
[17:40] <th> By default, Linux follows an optimistic memory allocation strategy.
[17:40] <th> This means that when malloc() returns non-NULL there is no guarantee
[17:40] <th> that the memory really is available. This is a really bad bug. In case
[17:40] <th> ahh
[17:40] <th> # echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory
[17:41] <th> hmm
[17:41] <th> still no effect
[17:41] <DLCool> stone found atm0 interface when i start ADSL modem
[17:42] <DLCool> i'll try ppp0 interface. Thenks
[17:48] <th> fake: i had to raise the "vm.max_map_count" sysctl
[17:48] <fake> ah?
[17:48] <fake> very interesting... any ideas *why* ?
[17:49] <th> This file contains the maximum number of memory map areas a process
[17:49] <th> may have. Memory map areas are used as a side-effect of calling
[17:49] <th> malloc, directly by mmap and mprotect, and also when loading shared
[17:49] <th> libraries.
[17:49] <fake> hm
[17:52] <th> with other words: no
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[19:46] <owl> moin
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[21:59] <treo> hi
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