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[01:22] nookie (~nookie@M275P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [01:31] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-082-083-050-099.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:41] nookie_ (~nookie@M472P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:42] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-050-058.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:42] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [04:19] SteffenP (~steffen@fortuna.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [05:05] SteffenP (steffen@p54994FC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:25] steffen_ (steffen@p5499640A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:40] SteffenP (steffen@p54994FC3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:58] nookie (~nookie@M275P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) got netsplit. [08:00] nookie (~nookie@M275P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) returned to #rocklinux. [08:04] nookie_ (~nookie@M275P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [08:19] nookie (~nookie@M275P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Connection timed out [08:34] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:34] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [09:23] nookie (~nookie@M352P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [09:40] nookie_ (~nookie@M275P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:54] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [11:30] <onleine> this channel is boring [11:30] <daja77> it is idle atm ^^ [11:31] <onleine> atm? [11:33] <daja77> at the moment [11:35] <onleine> ok [11:36] <daja77> ppl talk when they like to do it ;) [13:17] <nookie> hey daja77 :) [13:18] <daja77> hi nookie! [13:18] <nookie> can I query you? [13:18] <nookie> I hope so :) [13:18] <daja77> you just did ... [13:18] <nookie> yes :) [13:54] <owl> moin [13:59] <owl> btw, if someone is interested in pics from my homeoffice: https://owl.karnaya.de/private/fotos/homeoffice/ [13:59] <blindcoder> di you have an axe? [13:59] <blindcoder> owl: ? [13:59] <owl> blindcoder: ? [13:59] <owl> hi blindy [13:59] <blindcoder> owl: do you have an axe? [14:00] <owl> blindcoder: aehm. do i look like i would have one? ;) [14:00] <owl> i've just two "tauben" sitting in front of my window [14:00] <blindcoder> owl: because of the cut-through keyboard :) [14:00] <blindcoder> doves again? [14:02] <owl> blindcoder: ah. ;) nah. i'm taking it everytime as "frust-abregierer" and breaking it on my knees. [14:02] <owl> yeas. e.g. also younger ones i guess.. [14:03] <blindcoder> I see [14:45] onleine_ (~onleine@85.124.44.117) joined #rocklinux. [14:54] onleine (~onleine@85.124.47.208) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:09] on_leine (~onleine@85.124.45.164) joined #rocklinux. [15:17] onleine_ (~onleine@85.124.44.117) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:19] <owl> so. re [15:19] <blindcoder> where've you been? [15:21] <owl> blindcoder: shooting the fotos for the newspaper [15:21] <owl> why? [15:25] <blindcoder> just curious [15:26] Action: blindcoder is bored [15:26] <owl> blindcoder: hehehe. k. [15:26] on_leine (~onleine@85.124.45.164) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:26] <owl> and what are you doing, blindy? [15:26] <owl> btw, read the latest version of the article? [15:27] <blindcoder> the one you sent me with the typos [15:27] <blindcoder> hm [15:28] <blindcoder> trying to find a fix for my coffee machine [15:28] <blindcoder> playing nethack [15:28] <blindcoder> playing slashem [15:28] <owl> hmmm. well... guess it was one of the latest versions... [15:28] <owl> it was on - friday, yes? [15:28] <owl> fix for a coffee machine? [15:28] <blindcoder> yes, friday [15:28] <owl> well. then it was the latest version ;) [15:29] <blindcoder> yeah, the coffee is going to the coffeecatcher, not the cup [15:29] <owl> (ok, there was one with less typos, but content didn't change *g*) [15:29] <blindcoder> I've found the problem (a "Dichtungsring") [15:29] <blindcoder> but not a solution [15:29] <owl> hm. what about buying a new dichtungsring? [15:30] <blindcoder> yes, but the only shop I found that sells them for 0.19 EUR per piece requires a minimum of 20EUR per 'Bestellung" [15:30] <owl> hrm. i'm hungry. and we will have dinner at about 19:30 *sigh* [15:30] <blindcoder> all the other shops don't have replacement parts for my machine [15:30] <owl> shit. [15:30] <blindcoder> I've even been to Bauhaus and looked :/ [15:30] <owl> and what about your local coffee machine-seller? [15:30] <blindcoder> and in the newer machines this ring is larger [15:31] <blindcoder> would only send it to the manufacturer [15:31] <blindcoder> and the warranty ended a few months ago [15:31] <owl> hrmpf. [15:31] <owl> that's crap [15:31] <blindcoder> yeah [15:31] <owl> hmmm. ordering the stuff... and selling the rest at ebay? ;) [15:31] <blindcoder> https://www.saeco-ersatzteile.de/images/medium/317.gif [15:31] <blindcoder> part 7 [15:32] <owl> oh. it's large. really large. [15:32] <blindcoder> :) [15:32] <blindcoder> it's about 8mm in diameter [15:32] <blindcoder> 1mm thick [15:32] <owl> yes. as i said - really large ;p [15:34] <owl> btw, what about the next available mediamarkt? should they not have it? [15:35] <blindcoder> they would also just send it to the manufacturer [15:35] <blindcoder> already asked there :( [15:36] <blindcoder> the media in Ingolstadt would have the spare part [15:36] <blindcoder> but I'm in Berlin ;( [15:36] <owl> ARGHS. mediamkarktservice [15:36] <owl> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. [15:38] <blindcoder> indeed [15:39] <blindcoder> and a new "Bruehgruppe" is around 95 EUR [15:39] <blindcoder> for a 20 cent part :( [15:39] <blindcoder> hmm [15:39] <blindcoder> there's a shop that has it for 95 cent [15:40] <blindcoder> and 5,50 EUR delivery :/ [15:40] <owl> ouch. [15:40] on_leine (~onleine@85.124.45.164) joined #rocklinux. [15:41] <blindcoder> well, that's still better than 20 or 95 euro [15:41] <owl> but - as said: ebay... [15:41] <owl> yes.. [15:41] <blindcoder> also no useful spare parts there :( [15:42] <owl> nah. selling the unneded rings ;p [15:43] <blindcoder> nah, I'd keep them for the next time [15:44] <blindcoder> I WANT COFFEE, DAMMIT!!! [15:44] <blindcoder> :( [15:45] <owl> hmm. well... maybe keeping - hm. maybe keeping 20 rings would be ok, but about 100? O_o [15:45] <owl> (if you order them at the cheap shop) [15:45] Action: owl gives blindcoder "instan coffee" [15:46] <owl> +t [15:47] <blindcoder> baeh [15:47] <blindcoder> you trying to kill me? [15:47] <owl> lol. nah ;) [15:48] <owl> wasserkocher, filter && normal coffee? [15:48] <blindcoder> no normal coffee in the house [15:48] <blindcoder> only beans [15:48] <owl> hmm. kaffeemuehle? [15:48] <blindcoder> only in the machine [15:50] <owl> grmpf [15:50] <owl> but - this part works, doesnt it? [15:51] <blindcoder> hmm [15:51] <blindcoder> yes.. [15:51] <blindcoder> but to get the grinded coffee I'd have to open the side and take out the bruehgruppe, and the machine refuses to work then [15:52] <owl> well... try it :p [15:52] <blindcoder> a breaker somewhere deep in the machine where I can't reach with a tool [15:52] <owl> why refuses to work? [15:52] <owl> aaaaaaargs [15:52] <blindcoder> yeah :( [15:52] <blindcoder> I could put the beans into the filter and then apply a hammer [15:52] <owl> .oO( hammer... ) [15:52] <owl> lol [15:52] <owl> yes [16:04] <owl> hrm [16:04] <owl> grillhaehnchen. wellis [16:04] <blindcoder> an guadn [16:05] <owl> thx [16:05] <owl> but i first have to "rupfen" them [16:05] <blindcoder> hehe [16:09] <owl> not funny ;) [16:09] <owl> but - iguess i will cook them tomorrow ;) [16:12] on_leine (~onleine@85.124.45.164) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:16] on_leine (~onleine@85.124.45.164) joined #rocklinux. [17:29] nookie_ (~nookie@M496P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:31] nookie (~nookie@M352P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:37] feistel (~feistel@200.115.240.60) joined #rocklinux. [17:37] feistel (~feistel@200.115.240.60) left irc: Client Quit [17:47] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8DB38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] on_leine (~onleine@85.124.45.164) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:01] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8E09F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:13] <blindcoder> hmpf [18:13] <blindcoder> now I know why my mail didn't log anything anymore [18:13] <blindcoder> I forgot to HUP sysklogd after my rootfs was out of space a month ago [18:17] Action: netrunner found a nice picture viewer: gwenview [18:17] <netrunner> https://gwenview.sourceforge.net/ [19:18] on_leine (~onleine@193.170.120.242) joined #rocklinux. [19:52] veki (~chatzilla@217.24.19.40) joined #rocklinux. [19:53] <veki> hello, I have never tried RockLinux, but I think that it can be very helpful. Is there any how-to on buidling distro from scratch? [19:54] <blindcoder> depends on your definition of from scratch [19:55] <blindcoder> a good spot to start reading might be https://doc.rocklinux.org/ [19:56] <blindcoder> veki: especially https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/BuildingDistributions [19:59] BoS (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-070.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:02] <veki> blindcoder, thanks, I am planning to build specific distros for let say, social institutions with assorted packages etc.. I do not knwo how to do tat, but I hope that I will learn a lot by communication with you guys on this channel :-)) [20:02] BoS_ (~bodo@dsl-082-082-061-111.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:02] <blindcoder> veki: you will if you ask questions and wait a bit :) [20:02] <blindcoder> veki: unfortunately there is as of now no howto on _creating_ a distribution [20:02] <blindcoder> only on _building_ one [20:03] <blindcoder> though reading through the existing ones will get you started [20:03] <blindcoder> the build.sh config.in and preconfig.in are the ones you should have a look at [20:03] <veki> blindcoder, thanks on correction on term, I am not native English. But I see that there is a potential in using RockLinux. [20:04] <blindcoder> well, I'm neither so it should work out :) [20:07] BoS (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-070.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:08] <veki> OK, thanks. I think that your tool is great one. We will be in touc. I am president of the board of the Linux center in belgrade, Serbia and Montenegro. We work alot with NGOs , indepenedent media, social care instiuttions and soon with schools and faculties. [20:09] <blindcoder> sounds like you're quite busy [20:09] BoS (~bodo@dsl-213-023-068-070.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:11] <veki> yes, my idea is to use feree software as a tool for democratization. On eof thsoe very much great tools is I supose RockLinux so you can build distribution that i sspecific for some chool needs of let say ethnic minority, socila care institution, university tasks [20:12] <blindcoder> yes, that's quite certainly possible [20:13] <veki> OK, I expect assistance from you. OK? [20:13] <blindcoder> just ask and people will answer [20:13] <blindcoder> just have some patience [20:14] <blindcoder> if necessary, highlight someone specifically if you know that that person is the right to ask [20:14] <blindcoder> sometimes the mailinglist is faster, though [20:14] <veki> Ok, i will try to do so. i will even try to raise some funds to invite someone for a couple of days to train us. Doe sthis sound good to you? [20:15] <blindcoder> I'm sure someone would be happy about this :) [20:16] <blindcoder> just ask that on the mailinglist, I'll also have a look if it somehow fits with my contract [20:16] <blindcoder> would have to clear that with my boss (stupid contract law) [20:17] <veki> Oh, thanks. I would be more than happy to organize seminar for a couple of coders to do so. there were some attempts here, but it is not so easy to build general purpose distribution. I prefer specific for specific purpose i.e. primary school, certain university computer lab etc, media broadcast, firewall etc. [20:18] <blindcoder> you're telling that to someone who made a distribution for the single purpose of playing nethack :) [20:20] <veki> possibly, like that also....... I am sorry, I have to go, but I will be back later on. [20:21] <blindcoder> okay, bye [20:21] <blindcoder> just remember it's 20:20 here :) [20:21] <veki> oh, here also.... [20:21] veki (~chatzilla@217.24.19.40) left #rocklinux. [20:21] <blindcoder> as if I'd knew timezones by heart :) [20:46] feistel (~feistel@200.115.240.60) joined #rocklinux. [20:46] [feistel] (~feistel@200.115.240.60) joined #rocklinux. [20:46] _feistel_ (~feistel@200.115.240.60) joined #rocklinux. [20:49] feistel (~feistel@200.115.240.60) left irc: Client Quit [20:51] _feistel_ (~feistel@200.115.240.60) left irc: Client Quit [21:10] veki (~chatzilla@217.24.19.40) joined #rocklinux. [21:19] veki (~chatzilla@217.24.19.40) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:38] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-095-233.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:39] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-152-095.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:39] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [21:44] Freak (~freak@hydra.linuxtag.uni-kl.de) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [21:57] <owl> re [21:58] <owl> someone saw my "kruecken"? [21:58] <daja77> only mine [21:59] <owl> daja77: you have kruecken? [22:00] <on_leine> owl: you have kruecken? [22:00] <daja77> yeah sure [22:01] <owl> on_leine: yes. i 've injured my leg. [22:02] <owl> daja77: oh? [22:02] <daja77> hm? [22:02] <owl> daja77: i just didn't know [22:02] <daja77> kk [22:03] <on_leine> tell us the whole story [22:03] <daja77> you could have noticed them @ the devmeeting [22:03] <owl> grmpf. hunting (haha - what an irony) kruecken now. brb [22:03] <owl> daja77: O_o where? [22:03] <daja77> i used them [22:03] <daja77> ingolstadt, you were there :) [22:03] <on_leine> owl: have you shot your into your leg or what? [22:08] <owl> on_leine: no. not shot. but - i've injured it the first time some years ago, when a fscking dumb kid (also called "classmate") did one dumb thing - it "stellte mir den fuss" while sports several times, i had about half an year an "sehnenueberdehung/-anriss" and the OP was not far away. then - in 2003 in winter i had an accident at work when i was tired and "habe den fuss umgeknickt" and some weeks with "sehenenueberdehnung". and now - since thursday - i feel pain i [22:09] <owl> daja77: yes, but - i didn't remark "kruecken" O_o [22:10] <daja77> in your corner :) [22:11] <blindcoder> owl in a corner? [22:11] <owl> daja77: ok, ok - not just injured leg, but also temp. blindness *cough* *cough* sorry ;) [22:11] <owl> blindcoder: nah, on the grill [22:12] <owl> *sniff* my budgies are real idiots. they and the doves... [22:15] <blindcoder> mhmm, hot owl [22:16] <owl> blindcoder: nah, roasted owl [22:16] <blindcoder> cold roasted owl? [22:16] <owl> blindcoder: nah. ;) [22:19] <owl> arghs. how to remove an attachment in mutt? O_O [22:20] <th> d [22:20] <th> just d [22:20] <blindcoder> owl: see, hot owl [22:21] <blindcoder> owl: v to view attachments, d to delete them [22:21] <th> or D if you are in the compose screen and just attached it [22:22] <owl> blindcoder, th: thx ;) [22:30] [feistel] (~feistel@200.115.240.60) left irc: Client Quit [22:31] feistel (~feistel@200.115.240.60) joined #rocklinux. [22:31] [feistel] (~feistel@200.115.240.60) joined #rocklinux. [22:31] [feistel] (~feistel@200.115.240.60) left irc: Client Quit [22:32] on_leine (~onleine@193.170.120.242) left irc: "Leaving" [22:42] feistel (~feistel@200.115.240.60) left irc: Client Quit [23:18] dominik (~dominik@62-99-165-133.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [23:28] veki (~chatzilla@217.24.19.40) joined #rocklinux. [23:30] <veki> HI,is there big difference between T2 and Rock Linux, i suppose that is very similar. [23:31] <daja77> t2 is a fork of rocklinux 2.0 [23:31] <veki> OK, so, I suppose that is very similar.. [23:33] <daja77> indeed [23:37] <veki> Do you have any plans on organizing training seminars on distro building? [23:40] <daja77> we did some talks on some events like the linuxtag karlsruhe or CCC in berlin [23:40] <daja77> but commercial trainings we do not have [23:42] <veki> Maybe, some grant-givers donors are willing to help underserved communities i.e. ethnic minorities to make their own distro and you can help. [23:46] dominik (~dominik@62-99-165-133.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at) left irc: "[BX] It's game over, man! game over!" [23:52] <veki> is there anyone interested to travel and do training seminar on distro building? [23:53] <daja77> where? [23:54] <veki> Belgrade, Serbia and Montenegro, South east of Europ, South from Hungary.. [23:56] <daja77> well i am writing my diploma atm and cannot travel but please ask on the mailinglist for that [00:00] --- Mon Apr 11 2005