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[08:13] <blindcoder> moin
[08:40] <blindcoder> fake: I've added the offending domains to the manual blacklist and sent them upstream to my blacklist provider
[08:40] <blindcoder> fake: thanks for removing
[08:46] <blindcoder> fake: I've also added rel="nofollow" to all external links
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[09:06] <owl> moin
[09:07] <nookie_> Hi owl
[09:10] <blindcoder> moin owl, nookie_ 
[09:13] <nookie_> huhu blindcoder 
[09:14] Action: blindcoder feels sleepy
[09:14] <blindcoder> I don't even dare to start a game of nethack
[09:14] Action: nookie_ soon has to go to school. :/
[09:20] <nookie_> oks, I'm off
[09:20] <nookie_> bye
[09:23] <owl> hi nookie_ , blindcoder 
[09:23] <owl> oaeh. by nookie_ 
[09:24] <owl> SIGH. writing projektdoku :((((
[09:30] <owl> rofl. kohlmeise. is sitting on my window and watching what i'm doing
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[11:37] <netrunner> https://www.secnetix.de/~olli/fun/europe-vs-usa.jpg
[12:01] <blindcoder> ugh
[12:37] <owl> gnarf. "resource:" "human brainless object" ? might i write this in my project documentation?
[14:16] <daja77> https://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2005180439,00.jpg
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[15:27] <veki> hello
[15:27] <daja77> moin veki
[15:27] <veki> I  found machine with 2 Xeon multithread processors and 1 GB of RAm for distro building.  I hope that this is OK?
[15:27] <daja77> why it should not be ok?
[15:28] <veki> OK, just asking.  I hop ethis will be sufficient fo rrelatively fast compilation
[15:29] <daja77> should be but I don't know if rock supports both cpu well atm
[15:33] <veki> OK, if needed I will find another machine.  which configuration you recommend?
[15:35] <daja77> don't get me wrong, it will compile fine but perhaps only using one cpu
[15:36] <veki> ok, that's fine :-)
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[15:40] <blindcoder> you can use cluster build on dual processor machines
[15:41] <daja77> yes he can, but iirc it was broken
[15:41] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:41] <daja77> time to test again ;)
[15:41] <blindcoder> indeed :)
[15:43] <veki> ok, please inform me on that
[15:52] <blindcoder> https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/ClusterBuilds
[15:52] <blindcoder> at the bottom of the page there's information about building on multiprocessor systems
[15:56] <fake> on dual-processor systems it should work well
[15:57] <veki> yes, that is fine
[15:57] <fake> i tested it in december
[15:57] <daja77> glad to hear that
[15:57] <veki> OK :-)
[15:57] <fake> networked cluster builds are a bit lacking, if you don't build using tmpfs ATM
[15:58] <fake> but that's not the case for local builds.
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[16:11] <treo> hi
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[17:13] <uriahheep> :> hey guys
[17:13] <daja77> moin uriahheep 
[17:13] <uriahheep> how's it going?
[17:13] <uriahheep> ;)
[17:14] <daja77> quite ok
[17:14] <uriahheep> cool :)
[17:14] <uriahheep> i was wondering if one of you could give me their opinion on dietlibc vs. uclibc... which do you recommend for x86?
[17:14] <uriahheep> ...and why do you find one is better than the other?
[17:15] <daja77> uh ask mnemoc ;)
[17:16] <mnemoc_> .oO
[17:17] <uriahheep> ;)
[17:20] <uriahheep> ...also, would i need to patch dietlibc or give it some special configure options to enable dynamic linking?
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[17:21] <daja77> you can tweak this in scripts/Config iirc
[17:22] <uriahheep> ok cool
[17:22] <uriahheep> that's a script or a config file? :-/
[17:23] <daja77> a script inside the rocklinux src tree
[17:24] <uriahheep> oic
[17:24] <uriahheep> ...i meant outside any distro or packaging though...
[17:24] <daja77> hm my system is too old ...
[17:24] <daja77> == 17:06:39 =[9]=> Building gnome2/gimp [2.2.3 0].
[17:24] <daja77> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
[17:24] <daja77> !> The package build aborted with the following config error:
[17:24] <daja77> !> glib is not installed (in prefix usr)!
[17:24] <daja77> == 04/20/05 17:06:40 =[9]=> Aborted building package gimp
[17:25] <daja77> uriahheep: sry dunno ...
[17:25] <uriahheep> heh k
[17:25] <uriahheep> i guess i could take a look at the rocklinux script to see how it does it...
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[17:26] <daja77> of course
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[17:26] <daja77> in package/base/dietlibc
[17:31] <mnemoc> uhm
[17:32] <daja77> wb mnemoc ... you thought you'd get away with this ;))
[17:33] <mnemoc> nah
[17:33] <mnemoc> i did /server instead of /connect
[17:33] <daja77> haha!
[17:33] <daja77> *gg* ;)
[17:34] <mnemoc> :)
[17:38] <mnemoc> uriahheep: uclibc has dirtier and fatter code than dietlibc but it is much more compatible with apps designed for glibc
[17:39] <uriahheep> oic k
[17:39] <uriahheep> mnemoc: then it's a very tough decision ;)
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[19:26] <netrunner> daja77: I usually add a /opt/gnome*/ to the line, helps with most packages :)
[19:30] <netrunner> https://support.microsoft.com/kb/101497/de
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[19:35] <netrunner> https://daemlich.net/r7240
[19:43] <mnemoc> what does it say?
[19:43] <mnemoc> red boxes only of course
[19:46] <mnemoc> first one is easy to decrypt...
[19:47] <netrunner> german cardinal elected pope (ratzinger now benedictus 16.) .. 
[19:47] <netrunner> struggle for power ended (devil retired)
[19:47] <netrunner> there is a german politician who's name is the german of devil :)
[19:49] <mnemoc> oh
[19:49] <uriahheep> :)
[19:49] <uriahheep> he and the new pope are secretly affiliated
[19:49] <uriahheep> (j/n/k/wtv)
[19:49] <mnemoc> o_O
[19:49] <uriahheep> lol
[19:50] <uriahheep> mnemoc: what would you personally use for a c lib?
[19:50] <netrunner> I hope the phone's batteries will run out soon. we should have been at a party 1h ago, and she is on the phone for 1,75h now.
[19:50] <uriahheep> (for small systems)
[19:50] <uriahheep> netrunner: lol, with who?
[19:50] <mnemoc> uriahheep: depending of the choosen tools
[19:51] <netrunner> uriahheep: my gf
[19:51] <mnemoc> uriahheep: but i guess uclibc
[19:51] <uriahheep> netrunner: yeah but who is she on the phone with? :P
[19:51] <netrunner> uriahheep: her best friend
[19:51] <uriahheep> lo k
[19:51] <uriahheep> lol*
[19:51] <uriahheep> mnemoc: hmm, why not diet? isn't it cleaner + smaller?
[19:51] <mnemoc> woman-to-woman communications are expensive
[19:52] <uriahheep> lol indeed
[19:52] <netrunner> This Perl hasn't been configured and built properly for the threads
[19:52] <netrunner> gn
[19:52] <uriahheep> unless they use skype... and have unlimited bandwidth
[19:52] <mnemoc> uriahheep: because foo packages build easier againt uclibc
[19:52] <uriahheep> ok... like what?
[19:52] <netrunner> mnemoc: not if we received the call. otherwise I would interrupt. but then she'd call again :)
[19:52] <mnemoc> hehe
[20:07] <uriahheep> mnemoc: is there a nice place on the web that tells me if certain packages need patching for dietlibc? ;)
[20:08] <mnemoc> look for DIETLIBC flag on rock packages
[20:08] <uriahheep> k
[20:08] <mnemoc> the usual patch for uclibc is adding 'arch' support on config.sub
[20:13] <uriahheep> k
[20:15] <uriahheep> mnemoc: do you know if uclibc supports dynamic linking by default?
[20:15] <mnemoc> yep
[20:15] <uriahheep> cool :)
[20:15] <uriahheep> how about dietlibc?
[20:15] <uriahheep> does it take much effort to get working? (outside rocklinux)
[20:15] <mnemoc> some packages yes, some not
[20:16] <mnemoc> but why could anyone build a system without a kit?
[20:17] <uriahheep> huh?
[20:17] <uriahheep> what do you mean?
[20:17] <uriahheep> oh
[20:18] <uriahheep> well, i was just thinking of donig a little LFS'ing or something ;)
[20:18] <mnemoc> LFS is good for learning, but not for something serious
[20:20] Action: netrunner tried lfs right before he went to rock :)
[20:20] <uriahheep> ko... someone gimme the ip's of 2 non-poisoned dns's plz? :(
[20:20] <uriahheep> ok*
[20:22] <mnemoc> netrunner: i used LFS for business about two years before knowing ROCK
[20:38] <owl> re
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[21:13] <veki> I have to go now, cu later
[21:13] <hamstersteak> bye veki 
[21:13] <veki> cu later
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[22:30] <daja77> nookie: ?
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[22:52] <nookie> daja77: :)
[22:52] <daja77> nookie: mail sent
[22:52] <nookie> okay
[22:52] <nookie> thank you very much :)
[22:56] <daja77> you owe me a beer or sth like that
[23:09] <nookie> hehe, alright :)
[23:19] Action: fake doing a man-in-the-middle-attack 
[23:19] <daja77> hehe
[23:19] <daja77> good idea you could send him iso, would be cheaper for you
[23:19] <fake> iso ?
[23:20] <daja77> cdrom
[23:20] <fake> uh, snail mail
[23:23] <daja77> yep
[23:52] <treo> mv /dev/treo /dev/trash^H^H^H^H^Hbed
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