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[07:53] <blindcoder> moin [11:03] <owl> moin [11:04] <blindcoder> moin owl [11:04] <owl> hi blindcoder [11:18] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:12] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [13:21] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8CC98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:31] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8C777.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:36] madtux (~mike@65.182.17.148) joined #rocklinux. [13:36] <madtux> hello. [13:39] <owl> hi madtux [13:40] <madtux> Eule! [13:40] <madtux> :) [13:40] <owl> Miguel ;) [13:40] <owl> how are you? [13:40] <madtux> i am great my friend... and how are you? [13:41] <owl> bored. i'm writing documentation *yawns* [13:41] <madtux> oh that sucks... big time [13:41] <owl> ack ;) [13:43] <blindcoder> moin madtux! [13:43] <madtux> blind brother! [13:44] <madtux> how are you doing? [13:44] <madtux> ping [anders-mcafee], [13:45] <blindcoder> fine, thanks [13:45] <blindcoder> quite a quiet day today :) [14:00] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.47) joined #rocklinux. [14:13] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.5) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:40] <[anders-mcafee]> madtux: pong [14:46] <clifford> dir/ls in a directory with 100k files: on Win2k 3min / on Linux less than 1 sec [14:47] <blindcoder> clifford: we don't need any more windows/linux benchmarks. We know linux is better. It can do infinite loops in 4 seconds. [14:47] <blindcoder> (I think Linus said that last part) [14:47] Action: clifford working on a win port of https://oss.linbit.com/csync2/ [14:48] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: "Mesen orrrf..." [14:48] <clifford> .. and for that I _neeeeeeed_ fast directory scans. :-( [14:48] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [14:48] <blindcoder> guess you'll have to roll your own then [14:48] <blindcoder> that reminds me... [14:48] Action: blindcoder checks the status of the patch cluster [14:48] <[anders-mcafee]> bah.. ^W in XChat did not do what I thought it did.. [14:49] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: didn't close the window? [14:49] <blindcoder> WEE! installation is done [14:49] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: it closed the tab I was in, i.e. this # [14:50] <blindcoder> well, that's what I'd expect from ^W [14:50] <[anders-mcafee]> I thought it would delete word (as a normal emacs command should) [14:50] <[anders-mcafee]> works on the command line, why not in XChat? [14:52] <blindcoder> because xchat!=shell [14:52] <blindcoder> ^W closes a tab in mozilla/firefox, too [14:53] <blindcoder> and doesn't delete a word in the current textarea [14:53] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: your point being? ;-) [14:54] <[anders-mcafee]> brb [14:57] <clifford> www.clifford.at/gallery/2005-carcrash/22_G [14:58] Action: clifford is soooo sad because of that... [15:00] <blindcoder> whoops [15:00] <blindcoder> what have you done? [15:00] <clifford> I killed my car. [15:00] <blindcoder> as in I didn't like it anymore because it was a bitch so I rammed it against the nearest wall? [15:01] <clifford> more as in "I'm dumb! dumb! dumb! dumb! ..." [15:01] <blindcoder> oh... [15:02] <blindcoder> yeah, I know that feeling [15:02] <blindcoder> crashed my car around 2 years ago, too :/ [15:02] <clifford> I lost control on splashy street and crashed into a traffic light. [15:03] <clifford> I really love(d) that car. The longest relationship I've ever had. [15:04] <blindcoder> hehe [15:04] <blindcoder> well, I didn't look at the traffic and hit the car in front of me [15:04] <blindcoder> on the autobahn at less than 20 km/h [15:04] <blindcoder> repairing the car would then have cost more than the scrap metal was worth [15:05] <blindcoder> because the "Anhaengerkupplung" of the person in front of me literally crashed everything :( [15:08] <clifford> I was looking about two years for my car.. [15:08] <blindcoder> o_O [15:08] <owl> what car was it. [15:08] <owl> hi clifford [15:09] <blindcoder> mazda mx-5 [15:09] <blindcoder> you can see that on the photos [15:09] <daja77> d'oh that car rocked [15:09] <owl> and - a traffic light causes such things? O_o [15:09] <owl> ah. there. sorry. blindness... [15:09] <clifford> an MX-5, first year of construction, original red lacquer, nardi steering-wheel, .. [15:10] <blindcoder> clifford: estimated repair-cost? [15:10] Action: fake is proud he had the chance to drive it [15:10] <blindcoder> well, my car takes me from a to b :-) [15:11] <clifford> the bar of the traffic light cut thru the frame. [15:11] <owl> woho. www.clifford.at/gallery/2005-carcrash/25_G looks like my bf's car after crash with an rabbit... [15:11] Action: [anders-mcafee] is quite happy with the VW Golf VR6 he has [15:12] <blindcoder> owl: at what speed? [15:12] <[anders-mcafee]> a BMW 328Ci discovered that not all Golf's are slow.. :-)) [15:12] <blindcoder> I'm happy with my Seat Ibiza :) [15:12] <owl> blindcoder: about 100 km/h [15:12] <blindcoder> I see [15:12] <owl> (was on "landstrasse"... near lichtenau->b16) [15:12] <owl> and /me is glad to have a vw golf III ;) [15:13] <[anders-mcafee]> only thing I was really unhappy with on the Mk3 Golf is the headlights.. [15:13] <[anders-mcafee]> the Mk4 headlights are much better.. [15:14] <owl> [anders-mcafee]: y? [15:14] <owl> [anders-mcafee]: and how many PS does your golf has? [15:14] <[anders-mcafee]> the Mk3 headlights are much dimmer than the Mk4 ones.. don't ask me why, but several people I have spoken with here in UK have said the same [15:14] <[anders-mcafee]> owl: I have 174 bhp [15:15] <owl> bhp? O_o [15:15] <[anders-mcafee]> dunno what the ratio for BHP <-> PS is... :-/ [15:15] <owl> hm. ok. [15:17] <[anders-mcafee]> 174 BHP is 130kW :) [15:17] <owl> 1 ps is about 98,6& of one bhp :p [15:17] <[anders-mcafee]> ok [15:18] <owl> aeh % [15:18] <[anders-mcafee]> so 100 PS is 98.6 BHP ? [15:18] <daja77> clifford: do you have a minute? [15:19] <[anders-mcafee]> in that case I have 176.5 PS [15:19] <owl> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pferdest%C3%A4rke#Englische_bhp <- simpler :p [15:19] <owl> yeah, must be correct :p [15:20] <owl> well... my golf just has 90 PS :p [15:20] <blindcoder> my ibiza has 100 :-) [15:20] <[anders-mcafee]> :) [15:20] <blindcoder> and that is more than enough [15:21] <[anders-mcafee]> I have about 234 Nm torque as well [15:21] <[anders-mcafee]> which is very very nice to have [15:22] <blindcoder> I don't even know what that means :) [15:22] <blindcoder> but taht reminds me that I have to change my tires... [15:22] <owl> blindcoder: still "snow tires"? [15:23] <blindcoder> wintertires, yes [15:23] <owl> òmfg. how can you drive with them quite now? O_o aren't they "schwammig"? [15:24] <blindcoder> hmm [15:25] <[anders-mcafee]> https://www.onlineconversion.com [15:25] <netrunner> actually they're called "mud and snow tires", and there's still some mud around :) [15:25] <blindcoder> I don't know what you mean with schwammig, but they loose grip regularly [15:25] <daja77> netrunner: hehe [15:25] <blindcoder> at least when accelerating at a traffic light :) [15:25] centrinia (~centrinia@Alpha-udp04423635uds.gsu.edu) joined #rocklinux. [15:25] <blindcoder> but that needn't be related to the tires alone [15:25] Action: [anders-mcafee] regularly lose grip on tarmac in the middle of summer with summer tires if there is a bit of rain [15:26] <centrinia> where are clifford's 2.1 ISOs? :-/ [15:26] <blindcoder> guess I shouldn't press down on the speed pedal that fast [15:26] <[anders-mcafee]> one of the problems with a powerful car [15:26] <blindcoder> centrinia: I don't know if clifford has done any recently but I just uploaded a crystal iso some days ago: ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/unofficial/blindcoder/crystal/crystal5922p3_cd1.iso [15:27] <centrinia> ooo, nice :) thanks [15:27] <owl> netrunner: where? afield? [15:27] <centrinia> 5922 :D [15:27] <blindcoder> centrinia: yes, that's the subversion revision number [15:27] <blindcoder> centrinia: It's p3 optimised, though [15:27] <centrinia> okay, i have a p4 [15:27] <clifford> daja77: yepp! [15:27] <blindcoder> perfect :) [15:28] <blindcoder> that's what I'm going to install it on on the weekend, too [15:28] <centrinia> is it okay if i download it? i don't want to hog up too much of your bandwidth if you don't want me to [15:29] <blindcoder> heh [15:29] <blindcoder> iso.rocklinux.de is dedicated to hosting our isos :) [15:29] <centrinia> cool [15:29] <centrinia> thanks [15:29] <blindcoder> just go ahead [15:31] <owl> well. drive-test - now. brb [15:33] <centrinia> this might be a pentium 4 only problem, but are there any problems with compiling groff in the boot, rescue, system config? [15:33] <centrinia> i get a signal 11 everytime i compile groff [15:34] <blindcoder> P4 only [15:34] <blindcoder> that's why you don't compile stuff for P4 :) [15:34] <blindcoder> but for P3 [15:34] <centrinia> yeah, only on the pentium 4 [15:34] <blindcoder> the difference is marginal [15:34] <centrinia> i'll try P3 when i get home :) [15:35] <centrinia> by the way, what's wrong with the P4 optimization profile? [15:35] <centrinia> i am quite happy with -march=pentium4 in Gentoo :) [15:36] <blindcoder> that'S a good question without an answer at this time [15:42] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-148-071.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:43] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-154-034.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:43] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [16:28] Veki (~chatzilla@217.24.19.40) joined #rocklinux. [16:30] <fake> clifford: ping [16:30] <clifford> pong! [16:30] <daja77> he lives ;) [16:31] <fake> <gamer>"hey, my ping is super!"</gamer> [16:38] <fake> sowohl als auch. [16:38] <fake> argh [16:38] <th> genau [16:44] <Veki> is that German language? [16:44] <[anders-mcafee]> Veki: that'd be german yes [16:45] <Veki> OK, I just wondered that my English is more than bad. I am sorry if I interrupt you :-) [16:45] <madtux> Veki, what is your mother lang? [16:46] <Veki> my mother lang is C :-) I am kidding, it is Serbian [16:46] <madtux> :) [16:46] <madtux> oh ok... i don't know a single word of you lang :) [16:47] <Veki> anyway, my mother always said: IF you will be good, THEN there is chocolate, ELSE ... [16:47] <daja77> hi madtux [16:48] <blindcoder> Veki: that syntax looks more like pascal [16:48] <madtux> hehe [16:48] <Veki> no probelm, I acn teach you, we have in our language a lot of words that do have German origin due to presence of Asutr-Hungarian aempire, anyway we have a lot of wrods that are of Sanskrit origin too [16:48] <madtux> hi danny [16:48] <Veki> Ah, there wer emore complex C like discussions too [16:48] <madtux> Veki, well my mother lang is spanish [16:48] <blindcoder> I remember a rumor saying that there is a C header file turning pascal into C [16:49] <Veki> that is fine, I established communication with people in Extremadura. I am planning to go there to visit them [16:49] <madtux> cool... [16:49] <Veki> yes, my mother did spoke with that C header :-)))) [16:49] <madtux> make sure you check out all the work they made for moving education to Free Software [16:49] <Veki> yes, their minister of education invited me:-) [16:50] <madtux> oh COOL [16:50] <Veki> which part of Spain you are from? [16:50] <madtux> so you are all adviced about Linex? [16:50] <Veki> yes [16:50] <madtux> i am not from spain :) [16:50] <Veki> so, you afre which country from [16:50] <madtux> i am from Costa Rica.. [16:50] <madtux> thats in central america [16:51] <Veki> I have heard a lot of nice things about Costa Rica. A god friend of mine ewas in your country several times [16:51] <netrunner> that's where the weed comes from *duck* [16:52] Action: blindcoder .oO(wasn't that some place near vienna?) [16:53] <fake> blindcoder: speaking galaxy-wise, yes. [16:53] <madtux> Veki, cool [16:53] <blindcoder> hehe [16:54] <Veki> oh, yes, you have good clima and you can sit in the garden and make targets??? [16:54] <madtux> i am sitting next to my pool in fact :) [16:54] Action: fake sits in the kitchen [16:54] Action: blindcoder .oO(sitting in the garden and creating distributions) [16:54] Action: blindcoder sits at work but will leave in a few minutes for kendo [16:54] <fake> <- no garden [16:54] <madtux> blindcoder, the magic of wireless [16:54] Action: fake in the kitchen at work [16:54] <blindcoder> madtux: Yeah, I know :) [16:55] <fake> my access point sucks [16:55] <madtux> blindcoder, well i wasn;t sure if u had that in the woods.. [16:55] <daja77> at university supposed to be working ... [16:55] Action: madtux hides [16:55] <blindcoder> madtux: I can tune up the transmitter in my AP and sit in the lawn outside my flat (3 floors deeper) [16:55] <fake> it's 802.11b only, and the centrino i have freaks out on it [16:55] <blindcoder> madtux: you know... Berlin isn't actually "in the woods" anymore [16:55] <blindcoder> 802.11g :D [16:55] <fake> ist it certified yet? [16:56] <madtux> blindcoder, oh right... u moved.. [16:56] <blindcoder> and my centrino works fine :) [16:56] <blindcoder> fake: *shrug* no idea [16:56] <blindcoder> it works [16:56] <blindcoder> madtux: yes, around a year ago :) [16:56] <fake> wee! all nagios lights back to green. fine. [16:56] <blindcoder> well, 3/4 year [16:56] <blindcoder> nagios? which dip? [16:56] <madtux> oh well... i couldn;t miss an oportunity to tease [16:57] <blindcoder> you wouldn't have been born so close to me if you could :D [16:57] <madtux> yeah :) [16:57] <blindcoder> anyway, I'm off for kendo [16:57] <blindcoder> bye [16:57] <madtux> have fun [16:58] <Veki> kids here use wireless for gaming. they put Nesscaffe can as amplifier of signal on antennae and they call it cantennae [16:59] <daja77> hehe [16:59] <daja77> Veki: where are you from again? [16:59] <Veki> yes, many of them say that it is stupid to be taught on Microsoft word in the school, so they tend to be creative [17:00] <Veki> I am from belgrade, Serbia, south from Hungary, north from Greece [17:00] <daja77> I know about serbia ;) [17:00] <Veki> cool [17:00] <daja77> but i only made it to hungary so far [17:01] <Veki> I am president of the board of the Linux centere here which is non-proft NGO promoting free software. [17:01] <madtux> Veki, one question how come the minister of education invited you? are u related to education or free software or so? [17:01] <madtux> oh.. [17:01] <madtux> u just answered my question [17:01] <Veki> My idea si to be bale to build custom distros for various people and usage [17:01] <Veki> excusem on my typos, I am writing fast and keybaord is freaky [17:02] <madtux> u are doing just fine. [17:02] <daja77> could you post something about that to the mailingslist, feedback is always welcome [17:02] <madtux> daja77, good call. [17:02] <Veki> actually, I am composer also, I compose music for contemporary theatre and contemporary balley [17:02] <madtux> Veki, or even tell us more i would to like to help. :) [17:03] <Veki> Yes, I can. My idea si to be able and to organize trainig seminar fro young geeks to build distros for specific purposes [17:03] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [17:03] <Veki> ie.e medical, engineering, science, education, general purpose for office [17:03] <daja77> Veki: yeah, hm a dev meeting in serbia ... [17:04] <Veki> distro with databases fro NGOS which are engaged in protection of human rights etc. [17:04] <Veki> yes, it will be very good to rganize summer school of target building [17:04] <Veki> for example, builtar con [17:05] <madtux> nice.. [17:05] <Veki> or get target as you wish [17:05] <daja77> yes I like that idea [17:05] <madtux> you might like to talk about Jon "maddog" Hall as well he might be able to give you ideas and definitly would feel glad to hear about ur ideas [17:05] <Veki> I will have during the next week meeting with some donors about that. If that will be successful you will surelly know that [17:05] <Veki> It i sbecoming popular here to do audio, video blogging [17:06] <madtux> Veki, excellent! [17:06] <daja77> indeed [17:06] <Veki> Thus, journalists will be able to use custome telecommunication target fro blogging etc. [17:07] <Veki> freedom of software is full when you can practise that fully. target building is necessary precondition. Thus, you guys, I think are doing wonderful work [17:07] <madtux> would be cool to go to your country and help with seminars and training.. [17:07] Action: daja77 nods [17:07] <madtux> thx. [17:07] <Veki> yes, it will be good ide. I will try to do so. [17:08] <madtux> mmh? [17:08] <Veki> If donor will ask me for confirmation from your side, will you be keen to write for exmaple: yes, we will accept invitation and train people there to build targets. [17:09] <Veki> there is radio statin here which is very much keen to support us in media coverage [17:09] <madtux> oh .. [17:09] <daja77> it would be still good to read about it on the ml, because not all developers are reading here [17:09] <Veki> madtux, I will check is there any Costa Rica embassy here. If there is aI will contact hem and ask to suport your coming here. Good? [17:10] <madtux> definitly [17:10] <madtux> yes Veki would you write a nice email to the list? [17:10] <madtux> one cool thing is that you can easily count with the support of most if not all the developers to make this project happen [17:11] <madtux> we are always looking forward to help [17:11] <Veki> ok, we have national holiday here and we have Easter these days, since w ecelebrate easter according to calendar accepted by orthodox Church [17:11] <Veki> yes, I will write small article on our efforts and intentions to organize target building traiing seminars here [17:11] <daja77> fine [17:13] <Veki> OK, hwo long article should be? [17:14] <daja77> uhm well depends on the information you want to put it, for a start a short introduction and the references to rock linux would be good, I think [17:15] <Veki> OK, so let say 200 words or so [17:16] <Veki> OK? [17:17] <daja77> yes [17:17] <daja77> we can ask, if want more information ;) [17:21] <Veki> of course [17:25] <Veki> please feel free to ask any infor that may interest you [17:26] <daja77> yep [17:28] <fake> Veki: sounds like a candiadate for 'rolling rock' ;-) [17:29] <Veki> yes, rock and roll [17:30] <fake> it's our e-zine [17:31] <Veki> yes, I like it [17:33] <Veki> my ide as that god person is rocker [17:34] <Veki> so, good person likes rock and roll [17:34] <Veki> it is not only about music . itis about paradigm that freedom should be guarated by fully creative approach to semantics of code [17:36] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:37] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [17:44] BoS_ (~bodo@dsl-082-082-250-245.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. 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