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[00:03] <fake> daja77: whom?
[00:03] <fake> aard?
[00:04] <daja77> norbert
[00:05] <daja77> he works for the newspaper since january ^^
[00:05] <fake> aw
[00:05] <fake> yes sure i know him
[00:05] <fake> i ripped his audio cd ;-)
[00:05] <daja77> hehe
[00:06] <daja77> .oO (now I see that i could not win with that header file)
[00:06] <fake> how comes?
[00:07] <daja77> well the pthred.h from glibc include is just this
[00:07] <daja77> #include_next <pthread.h>
[00:07] <daja77> /* This function is called to initialize the pthread library.  */
[00:07] <daja77> extern void __pthread_initialize (void) __attribute__ ((weak));
[00:08] <daja77> and that's all ...
[00:08] <daja77> or did you mean sth else
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[04:40] <ojh> Help: I am attempting to build xmlrpc-c on ROCK 2.0.0 and get this error: "DataType.h:3: 'string' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type." Am I missing part of the C++ libraries or simething?
[04:40] <_hannes> hrm
[04:41] <_hannes> let me check
[04:42] <_hannes> ojh: have you checked if it is a project internal header?
[04:44] <ojh> "In file included from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/c++/backward/vector.h:59"
[04:44] <ojh> Looks like part of the std cpp headers.
[04:45] <_hannes> strange
[04:47] <ojh> Not sure where DataType.h is being pulled in from . . . I don't see it in the src for xmlrpc-c.
[04:48] <_hannes> and i neither in my include dir
[04:49] <ojh> Checking the output of ./configure . . . 
[04:51] <ojh> Seems to find all the normal C/C++ libs.
[04:51] <ojh> What does this mean?: "/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/c++/backward/backward_warning.h:32:2: warning: #warning This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the C++ standard. Examples include substituting the <X> header for the <X.h> header for C++ includes, or <sstream> instead of the deprecated header <strstream.h>. To disable this w
[04:53] <_hannes> there are some old headers in use, which shouldn't be used any more
[04:53] <_hannes> never had this kind of error before
[04:54] <ojh> Found the file. Its in a tools dir outside of the src.
[04:56] <ojh> Is the std C++ libs going to define a type 'string'? Or is this a problem inside of the package src?
[04:56] <_hannes> String is defined
[04:57] <_hannes> but not string AFAIK
[04:58] <_hannes> and c++ is case-sensitive
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[04:59] <ojh> Well, I'll try that then . . . change string to String . . .
[05:00] <ojh> Same error, String not defined as a type.
[05:01] <_hannes> em, sry, wrong
[05:01] <_hannes> there should also be a class string
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[05:01] <_hannes> i haven't used c++ for quite some tome now
[05:05] <ojh> Well, I just decided to use the '--disable-cplusplus' flag, I was only intending to use C for my project anyway.
[05:06] <_hannes> ojh: try to open the DataType.h and place a "using namespace std;" at the beginning of the file
[05:06] <_hannes> perhaps that solves the problem
[05:11] <ojh> Yes. That fixes it. I am finding other problem .h files that work after adding the namespace directive.
[05:11] <_hannes> fine :}
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[05:18] <ojh> I'll remember that next time a C++ refuses to compile.
[05:18] <_hannes> i hope there's not too much source out there with that problems
[05:20] <ojh> Me too, but my guess is that the C++ setups on Debian and Fedora are *special* in some way that makes this work.
[05:21] <_hannes> i don't think so
[05:21] <_hannes> why should they do workarounds that wrong c++ doesn't fail to compile?
[05:23] <ojh> OK, point. So there may be something in ROCK that fails to apply the default C++ namespace declarations?
[05:23] <_hannes> let me check if it fails to compile on a redhat-box
[05:24] <ojh> OK.
[05:24] Action: _hannes firing up vmware with debian3 and redhat9
[05:25] <ojh> At the moment ROCK is my only OS, so I don't have anything else installed to test against.
[05:25] <_hannes> i think it depends on the compiler-version in use
[05:26] <ojh> omer@localhost:/mnt/shared/omer_data/code/xmlrpc-c-1.2$ gcc -v
[05:26] <ojh> Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.2.3/specs
[05:26] <ojh> Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --with-mysql-lib=/opt/mysql/lib/mysql --with-mysql-include=/opt/mysql/include/mysql --with-libpam --with-pam --enable-libpam --enable-pam --build=i586-unknown-linux-gnu --host=i586-unknown-linux-gnu --disable-mu
[05:26] <ojh> Thread model: posix
[05:26] <ojh> gcc version 3.2.3
[05:26] <ojh> If you wanted to know :)
[05:31] <_hannes> same error on fedora3
[05:32] <_hannes> debian still running
[05:32] <_hannes> gcc-3.4.3
[05:33] <_hannes> ok, and debians curl version is out of date
[05:33] <_hannes> but compile was fine
[05:33] <_hannes> with a gcc-2.95 version
[05:35] <ojh> Well the latest release of xmlrpc-c was 2005-04-04 so it may have a bug or two still to catch.
[05:37] <ojh> I'm impressed, the resulting binaries for the demos have extremely limited dependencies. The entire lib appears to static link by default.
[05:37] <_hannes> it really depends on the gcc-version you use
[05:38] <ojh> That'll make deployment to a production server fairly easy.
[05:38] <_hannes> send some patches to the maillinglist
[05:38] <_hannes> they should fix this
[05:39] <_hannes> if they are c programmers and they are used to include iostream.h and so on
[05:40] <ojh> On the GCC: IC. But I'm using ROCK 2.0.0, the current release of ROCK uses a newer GCC right?
[05:40] <_hannes> you have to leave out the using namespace blah
[05:41] <_hannes> jeps
[05:41] <_hannes> though, it's not working with current gcc-3.4.3
[05:44] <ojh> IC, I guess the problem is with the xmlrpc-c code base then. I'll need to send a patch to them.
[05:46] <_hannes> i just looked in the source
[05:46] <_hannes> they are using includes with .h
[05:47] <_hannes> so normally, there's no need for a using namespace
[05:48] <_hannes> but normally you don't do this, gcc doesn't care about it, and you always need this
[05:48] <_hannes> a patch would be a good idea
[05:49] <_hannes> you could also prepend a std:: to the string declarations
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[08:23] <blindcoder> moin
[09:22] <_hannes> nam
[09:22] <_hannes> moin
[09:36] <blindcoder> moin _hannes 
[09:36] <blindcoder> _hannes: you got a clue about mod_perl2?
[09:38] <_hannes> blindcoder: used once. ask, i'll try to help
[09:42] <blindcoder> Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC
[09:42] <_hannes> ohh
[09:43] <_hannes> mod-perl should have it installed in an @INC-folder :/
[09:44] <blindcoder> I could find a Bundle/Apache2.pm
[09:44] <blindcoder> but that's all
[09:44] <_hannes> otherwise use an startup-script
[09:45] <_hannes> does your apache startup?
[09:45] <blindcoder> it will once I get it working
[09:46] <_hannes> so, i think a perlpostconfig script wouldn't help
[09:47] <blindcoder> a what?
[09:47] <blindcoder> I've now symlinked Apache2.pm -> Bundle/Apache2.pm
[09:47] <_hannes> use Apache2 ();
[09:47] <_hannes> use lib qw(/data/perl);
[09:47] <_hannes> 1;
[09:47] <blindcoder> now it complains about Apache::compat.pm
[09:48] <_hannes> i use such a small script and then PerlPostConfigRequire <script-path> to something where your perl-modules are
[09:48] <_hannes> ehh? what are you doing?
[09:48] <blindcoder> I?
[09:48] <_hannes> that should all be installed, if you install mod_perl
[09:48] <blindcoder> I'm trying to install RT
[09:48] <_hannes> :/
[09:49] <_hannes> RT?
[09:49] <blindcoder> well, it is
[09:49] <blindcoder> in Apache2?
[09:49] <blindcoder> in Apache2/
[09:49] <_hannes> thats not correct
[09:49] <blindcoder> but I'm running Apache2
[09:49] <_hannes> link it in an Apache/ directory
[09:49] <_hannes> that is a compatibility handler, i think
[09:49] <blindcoder> I'll try
[09:49] <_hannes> my installation here has an Apache/compat.pm
[09:50] <blindcoder> Can't locate object method "menu_item" via package "Apache::Status"
[09:50] <blindcoder> GRAAAAAAAAAAH
[09:50] <_hannes> uuh?
[09:50] <blindcoder> I'll try mod_perl 1
[09:51] <_hannes> have you installed via cpan?
[09:51] <blindcoder> no
[09:52] <blindcoder> how do I do that?
[09:52] <blindcoder> cpan> install mod_perl2
[09:52] <blindcoder> mod_perl2 is up to date.
[09:52] <_hannes> jo
[09:53] <_hannes> hmm..
[09:53] <_hannes> which version do you have?
[09:53] <_hannes> current?
[09:53] <blindcoder> yes
[09:53] <blindcoder> 2.0.0-RC5
[10:04] <netrunner> moin
[10:20] <blindcoder> moin netrunner 
[10:24] Action: netrunner having extensive bunch
[10:27] <blindcoder> bunch?
[10:27] <netrunner> bRunch. holding a nutsnail in left hnd makes me type one-handed :)
[10:28] <blindcoder> *grr8
[10:41] Action: netrunner listening to haindling
[10:43] <blindcoder> our kde installation is buggy
[10:55] <daja77> yes
[10:55] <blindcoder> it tries to run /X from kdm :/
[10:59] <blindcoder> aah, coffee tastes soooo gooooood ^_^
[11:00] <blindcoder> haven't had coffee for over 6 weeks due to broken machine
[11:02] <daja77> how were you working these days? ;)
[11:06] <blindcoder> bleargh
[11:06] <blindcoder> that way
[11:06] <blindcoder> still fscking with mod_perl2
[11:07] <daja77> ic
[12:47] <netrunner> blindcoder: why is it that kmail can not decode or display your mail?
[12:50] <blindcoder> because it's buggy
[12:52] <daja77> it displays it, just telling it can't verify the sig
[12:52] <blindcoder> then get the sig
[12:52] <blindcoder> finger blindcoder@scavenger.homeip.net | gpg --import
[12:52] <daja77> fake, clifford? are you here?
[13:02] <netrunner> daja77: here I only get the picture of a lock and the subject of the message.
[13:03] <daja77> your system is screwed ;)
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[14:29] <blindcoder> https://shop.mediamarkt.de/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=40451&catalogId=5000&langId=-3&storeId=5000&categoryId=10951
[14:29] <blindcoder> to buy or not to buy
[14:37] <daja77> hm
[14:48] <blindcoder> nah, won't be it
[15:27] <daja77> nice build is in stage 1 now
[15:31] <blindcoder> o_O
[15:31] <daja77> the gcc4 glibc-cvs build ^^
[15:32] <blindcoder> ah
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[16:09] <daja77> ok it stops at 1-glibc ^^
[16:10] <daja77> hm that gcc_eh
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[17:51] <daja77> == 04/30/05 15:44:47 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc-cvs.
[17:51] <daja77> ^^
[17:53] <blindcoder> hehe
[17:54] <daja77> and yes the clock is messed up
[17:56] <blindcoder> I didn't say anything :)
[17:56] <daja77> :)
[17:56] <blindcoder> https://slashem.crash-override.net/stats.php
[17:56] <blindcoder> hehe :)
[18:09] <daja77> hm?
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[18:48] <mnemoc> daja77: hi, can you send a patch to update openldap to 2.2.26 please?
[18:48] <daja77> uh sure, but why?
[18:53] <mnemoc> it was flagged as "Stable" and i don't have how to send it :)
[18:53] <daja77> k.
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[19:17] <centrinia> why is it that with 3 different Boot CDs, i can't get beyond entering the location of the stage2?
[19:18] <centrinia> i can load stage1, select media, and the file, but it just stalls when loading
[19:19] <centrinia> well, it is not unresponsive as it takes keyboard presses, but other than that, it does nothing :|
[19:19] <daja77> mnemoc: sent
[19:19] <mnemoc> daja77: thanks
[19:20] <centrinia> i also activated the hard drive swap partition to no avail
[19:20] <daja77> np
[19:34] <centrinia> sorry, i have to install ROCK now :)
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[21:45] <fake> daja77: hai?
[22:05] Action: fake now instalind freebsd 5.3 on his laptop ;)
[22:05] <fake> just for fun.
[22:05] <fake> cya later
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