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[07:29] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-135-079.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:29] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [07:44] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:03] <blindcoder> moin [08:04] <BoS_> moin [09:01] <owl> moin [09:01] <blindcoder> moin moin [09:02] <owl> hi blindcoder [09:05] clifford (~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:22] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [10:16] clifford (~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:27] esdentem (~esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [10:28] <esdentem> moin [10:28] <daja77> moin esden! [10:28] <esdentem> hi daja77! ;) [10:32] Nick change: BoS_ -> BoS^afk [10:36] <netrunner> hi esdentem [10:36] <netrunner> esdentem: why is it you appear here more regularly? [10:37] <daja77> hm showing up since yesterday doesn't count as regularly [10:41] <blindcoder> indeed :) [10:59] <th> argh. busybox config kills me [11:00] <th> ah process named "mconf" starts eating all system memory [11:00] <th> and crashes at about 2.1G [11:01] <netrunner> hm. will I loose much performance building inside an uml? [11:01] <th> netrunner: try out and tell us. [11:01] Action: netrunner planning his new server structure [11:02] <netrunner> I want to put only core functionality in the main operating system and the other stuff in some virtuality. [11:02] <netrunner> but I fear qemu degrades too much [11:02] <th> propably [11:02] <th> mnemoc_: need your help on this! [11:02] <daja77> qemu stalls [11:03] <netrunner> I even plan to remove the gcc from the low level os :) [11:03] <daja77> oh no a new release two weeks ago ... [11:04] <daja77> First release with support for the QEMU Accelerator. Full x86_64 and MMX/SSE/SSE2 emulation support. [11:06] <th> x="${c//\\*/[^ #]*}" [11:06] <th> x="^\(# \)\?\($x\)[= ].*\$" [11:06] <th> love it [11:06] <blindcoder> hoeh? [11:07] <blindcoder> looks like one of cliffords hackmes :) [11:07] <th> blindcoder: alessandro/busybox/functions.in [11:08] <blindcoder> okay... so... what's it do [11:08] <th> good question [11:09] <th> if i try to use it from target busybox config crashs [11:10] <blindcoder> oh [11:10] <th> a process "mconf" appears [11:10] <th> and eats all RAM [11:10] <daja77> hm alessandro != mnemoc_ [11:10] <blindcoder> nice [11:11] <th> daja77: uh? [11:11] <th> ahh true [11:11] <daja77> mnemoc repo is named mnemoc ;) [11:11] <th> [M] Alessandro Ferrari <famferr@tin.it> [11:11] <th> [M] Alejandro Mery <amery@geeks.cl> [11:11] <daja77> yes ... [11:11] <th> better move busybox to his repo ;) [11:12] <th> a good start in building busybox a better way is using make config instead of make menuconfig [11:13] <th> or even make oldconfig [11:13] <th> anyone ever felt like rewriting busybox config? [11:14] <th> only talking of busybox.conf now [11:15] <blindcoder> not even using bb [11:15] <th> oh nothing wrong with that for me [11:20] <th> seems like a run of "yes '' | make oldconfig" could fix it all. [11:20] <th> .oO( One "make oldconfig" to fix them all... ) [11:22] <th> hmm no [11:28] <th> var_append premake 1 'auto_config 2' does not seem to get evaluated [11:30] <netrunner> hook_add premake 1 'auto_config 2' [11:31] <netrunner> var_append a b c => a := abc [11:33] <th> oh [11:33] <th> very true [11:33] <th> that should be hook_add onl [11:33] <th> y [11:33] <th> strange [11:33] <th> i was blindfolded [11:34] <th> thats wrong in trunk too, right? [11:34] <th> busybox.conf [11:35] esdentem (~esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:36] <th> netrunner: can you confirm that? [11:39] esdentem (~esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [11:40] <clifford> I can confirm it. [11:40] <clifford> hi, btw. [11:40] <th> clifford: thanks [11:40] <th> hi cliff [11:40] <esdentem> re hi all [11:41] <clifford> strange: it's done right a few lines later: [11:41] <clifford> hook_add postmake 9 'cp -v .config busybox.links $docdir' [11:41] <th> yes [11:41] <th> i added that [11:41] <th> IIRC [11:41] <th> or did something with it [11:41] <th> perhaps i fixed that - dunno [11:41] <clifford> is it in your opinion save to fix that it trunk directly? ;-) [11:41] <th> yes [11:42] <th> i'll do the same for stable [11:43] <clifford> done in trunk. [11:43] <clifford> for(var d,i=<>just</>,j=function(){d~=i~(defined(i=next[],i)?" ":"" [11:43] <clifford> );},just,another,SPL,hacker;defined i or({debug d;return 0;});j()); [11:43] <th> freak [11:44] <clifford> no the perl people have to believe me that it is a real programming language.. ;-) [11:44] <clifford> now [11:44] <th> heh [11:44] <th> fixed in stable [11:45] <daja77> d'oh guess I messed that disable-broken.lst patch up [11:45] <clifford> www.clifford.at/spl/manual.pdf (page 27) explains how the script is working.. [11:47] <daja77> clifford: should I send a fix patch or a new one? [11:48] <clifford> I'd send a new one - but it doesn't make much of a difference. [11:49] <daja77> ok [11:58] <daja77> i thought smap could reverse apply patches [11:59] <owl> wow. "arbeitsagentur" is a _very_ funny institution [11:59] <daja77> ah ok, my fault ^^ [12:00] <blindcoder> sure is [12:00] <blindcoder> they have a lot of fun on you [12:00] <owl> blindcoder: nah. /me on them. had a talk with the net-admin which doesnt know who is the admin of the databases... [12:00] <owl> well. heh, i [12:00] <owl> m" reporter too :p [12:01] <owl> (could make this story public) [12:01] <owl> (and i am hating this keyboard) [12:02] <owl> well - at least the net-admin didnt tell me that it's impossible to hack the DB... (which the people wanted to tell me yesterday) [12:10] <blindcoder> hehe [12:10] <owl> hm? [12:21] <daja77> damn, are the sf download urls broken again? [13:06] <esdentem> puhh [13:06] <esdentem> cu be back [13:06] <owl> bye esdentem [13:09] esdentem (~esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "leaving" [13:52] Action: clifford needs to hurt someone for this: [13:52] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-154-018.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:52] <clifford> www.clifford.at/priv/dependencies.ps [13:52] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-097-196.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:12] <daja77> omg [14:13] <blindcoder> hm? [14:13] <blindcoder> yes, my son? [14:13] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005051014114523639 [14:13] <clifford> .. and waiting fo the next ref build. ;-) [14:13] <daja77> dot generated image? [14:14] <clifford> daja77: 2005030223111922149 .. whats about this one? [14:14] <clifford> daja77: scripts/Check-Deps-2 generates then [14:14] <clifford> .. yes: using dot. ;-) [14:14] <daja77> I like dot, currently trying to draw parsetrees with that [14:15] <daja77> hm I'll check for a new version, they are using fftw3 the yway we use it in svn for a while [14:16] <daja77> thing is that dl.sourceforge.net isn't working with the script anymore, at least it did not an hour ago [14:18] <daja77> no new version ... [14:19] <daja77> redirects are considered harmful [14:19] <daja77> download/mirror/s/scummvm-0.7.1.tar.bz2.incomplete: HTML document text [14:19] <clifford> yes - I know. a fix for that is very welcome.. [14:21] <daja77> hm curl -L might do the trick, I#ll try [15:15] <netrunner> clifford: no problem, I wanted to redo them anyway :) [15:15] <clifford> netrunner: good. I didn't want to offence anyone.. [15:18] <clifford> did anyone have a look already on "KQEMU" ;-) [15:19] SteffenP (~steffen@p54997C07.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:21] <daja77> no [15:21] Action: daja77 updating curl [15:50] <clifford> fpt master is up2date now again. [15:50] <clifford> ftp [15:51] <clifford> th: there was a "grub" download missing in 2.0 ftp, I've downloaded that too.. [15:54] <daja77> *grmbl* they always redirect to mirror selection for manual mirror selection >_< [15:55] <clifford> daja77: I'd also accept a patch which adds an hotfix especially for sourceforge downloads.. [15:57] <daja77> I think about one atm ... [15:57] <mnemoc_> hi [15:58] <mnemoc_> daja77, th: pong [15:59] <daja77> mnemoc_: th confused you with allessandro ;) [15:59] <mnemoc_> :D [16:04] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [16:46] esdentem (~esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:46] <esdentem> moin [16:47] <mnemoc> hi esden [17:06] <daja77> hm how can I make grep only to show the first match [17:07] <mnemoc> grep | head -n 1 [17:07] <mnemoc> :) [17:07] <daja77> ah d'oh ;) [17:16] <esdentem> lol [17:17] <esdentem> very nice online comic: https://underpower.non-essential.com/ [17:18] <netrunner> daja77: grep -m 1 [17:18] Action: netrunner trowing a rtfm in the channel [17:18] <netrunner> :) [17:18] <mnemoc> hi netrunner :) [17:19] Action: netrunner going to russian course [17:19] <mnemoc> can you read spanish? this comic is great: https://www.geeks.cl/~amery/Raulitio%20el%20Friki/ [17:19] <daja77> did not see -m one hm [17:20] <mnemoc> "01 - ..." doesn't have spanish [17:24] <daja77> -m 1 doesn't work [17:24] <daja77> anyway [17:30] <esdentem> no my spanish is not good enough to read comics ;) [17:30] <esdentem> sadly ... [17:32] <th> daja77: no i did not [17:32] <th> mnemoc: i know why that auto_conf for busybox did not work correctly [17:32] <th> mnemoc: there was a /var_append/hook_add/ mixup [17:34] <mnemoc> th: no idea the thing that was commited wasn't what i sent.... pre-submaster age, and busybox patch was depending on uclibc patch [17:34] <mnemoc> th: uclibc was not commited and busybox 'fixed to work' [17:35] <th> yea i remember [17:35] <th> you never tried to get your changes in again? [17:36] <mnemoc> i haven't got time to sync my tree with rock-trunk :( [17:36] <mnemoc> it is on my todo but... [17:36] <th> ok [17:37] <mnemoc> i have lot of changes.... i have an xorg built against uclibc on a box here [17:39] <th> i'd like to get xorg in stable [17:52] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] <mnemoc> th: you need a new stable for new stuff [18:07] <daja77> bash is somehow annoying [18:17] <clifford> daja77: why? [18:20] <daja77> the error messages are not really helpful, working around that ;) [18:24] Action: clifford away. (new ref. build running -> will write dep errors workaround when finished) [18:24] <daja77> cu [18:25] <daja77> that sf workaround will be ready soon I think [18:26] <th> mnemoc: 2.0.4 and 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 it's all new stables [18:26] <th> mnemoc: "old stable" will be 2.0.3.1 [18:26] <th> and 2.0.3.2 [18:26] <mnemoc> th: i dislike that, but that's your tree. [18:26] <th> mnemoc: so we are free to stabilise step by step [18:27] <th> mnemoc: we can even name it 2.2.0 if it's a big step [18:27] <th> mnemoc: but we need more than one step to reach trunk-features [18:28] <mnemoc> that's why trunk can't become 2.x [18:28] <th> exactly [18:34] <esdentem> cu guys [18:34] esdentem (~esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) left #rocklinux. [19:16] centrinia (~exc@mp1-249-213.dialup.emory.edu) joined #rocklinux. [19:28] centrinia (~exc@mp1-249-213.dialup.emory.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [19:38] matto (~matto@iD4CC1B10.versanet.de) joined #rocklinux. [19:39] markuman (~markuman@p509272CB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:39] <matto> hi there! i just installed rocklinux , used archlinux before, and i wonder how to allow a user to log in [19:40] <mnemoc> useradd [19:41] <matto> yes i did useradd -e 0 -f 0 -s /bin/bash -d /home/matto -g users matto [19:42] <th> did you set a password? [19:42] <th> and create the home directory? [19:42] <mnemoc> did you create /home/matto ? [19:42] <mnemoc> -m does that part [19:43] <matto> yes i created /home/matto und did chown [19:43] <matto> ok [19:44] <mnemoc> passwd ? [19:44] <mnemoc> what problem do you have? [19:45] <matto> i added -m but i still can´t log in [19:45] <matto> i also tried to add -p password [19:45] <blindcoder> matto: which rock did you install? [19:46] <mnemoc> matto: what error? what does the log say? [19:46] <blindcoder> there's a bit of a pam problem in an older version [19:47] <matto> oh i just downloaded a pair of "unofficial" cds from rocklinux.org i think it was crystal ROCK rev. 4641 [19:47] <blindcoder> ehm, yes [19:47] <blindcoder> that one definately has it [19:47] <matto> oh [19:47] <blindcoder> you need to install cracklib manually [19:47] <blindcoder> before you can set passwords [19:47] <blindcoder> or you can just download the 5922 version :) [19:47] <matto> it comes not with the cd? [19:48] <blindcoder> no, that's a bug that has been fixed in the meantime [19:48] <blindcoder> what system are you installing on? [19:48] <matto> it was your build i think [19:48] <blindcoder> yes, it was [19:49] <blindcoder> but what hardware are you installing on? [19:49] <matto> an old notebook k6-3 500 [19:49] <blindcoder> hrm [19:49] <blindcoder> can't install the 5922 build then [19:49] <blindcoder> as it is done for pentium3 [19:49] <matto> yes [19:49] <matto> this machine is 586 [19:49] <blindcoder> try installing cracklib [19:49] <blindcoder> that should do the trick [19:50] <matto> what exactly did i have to do? i have to switch network cable to go online with my notebook [19:51] <th> cd /usr/src/rock-src [19:51] <th> ./scripts/Update-Src [19:51] <th> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg cracklib [19:51] <th> be sure to set up networking before [19:53] <matto> mhh modprobe pcmcia_core failes (pcmcia network adapter) ... unresolved symbol memcmp [19:54] <th> uhh [19:54] <blindcoder> sounds ugly :/ [19:55] <matto> yes i´ll try to boot 2.6 kernel [19:58] <matto> :-) startet vi with vi -y ... how to close it? [19:59] <blindcoder> what's -y? [19:59] <matto> easymode like evim [19:59] <matto> modeless [19:59] <blindcoder> oh [19:59] <blindcoder> no idea [20:00] <blindcoder> worst case: another terminal/: killall vim [20:00] <matto> insert stand on the bottom [20:02] <th> markuman: with control-o [20:02] <th> markuman: ^o then :q! [20:03] <th> ^o put's you into command mode for exactly one command [20:03] nick01 (~nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro) joined #rocklinux. [20:03] <nick01> hi [20:03] <nick01> about the unofficial isos- do they have a installer ? [20:03] <th> matto: i was talking to you. not to markuman [20:04] <th> nick01: yes [20:04] <nick01> and the installer installs binaries ? :) [20:04] <th> nick01: yes [20:04] <nick01> and then it has some package management I can use to download and install source ? [20:05] <th> yes if i do guess correctly what you mean [20:05] <nick01> something like portage ? [20:05] <th> sort of [20:05] <nick01> emerge ? [20:05] <nick01> how ? [20:06] <blindcoder> nick01: https://doc.rocklinux.org/ tells you [20:06] <blindcoder> hmm [20:06] <blindcoder> oops [20:06] <blindcoder> https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/ [20:06] <blindcoder> damn webserver [20:06] <blindcoder> brb [20:06] <nick01> kkk- where's the latest iso ? a athlon one maybe ? [20:06] <th> nick01: do i look like a webbrowser? [20:06] <th> nick01: go figure! [20:07] <nick01> lol [20:07] <nick01> I found some very recent ones but there were 3 cds [20:07] <nick01> and for piii [20:07] <blindcoder> the most recent one is for p3 [20:07] <blindcoder> with one cd [20:07] <nick01> where ? [20:07] <nick01> it will work on athlon right > [20:07] <nick01> ? [20:08] <blindcoder> ah, running again [20:08] <blindcoder> no, won't work [20:08] <blindcoder> you'll get SIGILL [20:08] <nick01> :/ [20:08] <matto> editing woked, but kernel2.6.9 ends up with a kernel panic..... i think i´d better download a working pair of cds? [20:08] <nick01> then which one should I get >? [20:09] <blindcoder> there's a 2-cd set for pmmx which will work but has a bug wrt. pam that can be rectified by manually installing cracklib [20:09] <th> there should be some recent crystal-emu sets [20:09] <blindcoder> both of you might want to try this: https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/official/2.0-stable/2.0.3/crystal-emu/ [20:10] <th> or even the xmas preview [20:10] <nick01> blindcoder: 2.0 ? I want the latest [20:10] <blindcoder> that's the latest [20:10] <daja77> hm no [20:10] <blindcoder> the latest and greatest and buggiest is the 5922 [20:10] <nick01> I mean unstable :P [20:11] <blindcoder> well, then you'll have to build it from scratch by yourself [20:11] <blindcoder> nick01: see https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/BuildingDistributions [20:11] <blindcoder> for a HowTo [20:11] <nick01> what about unofficial isos ? [20:11] <blindcoder> as you can see, those are either broken or not for your processor [20:11] <matto> how "old" ist 2.0.3 ? [20:11] <daja77> a pity nookie did not report if my latest crystal worked for him [20:12] <blindcoder> it's the recent -stable release [20:12] <daja77> 2.0.3 half y year I guess [20:12] <matto> ok thanks [20:13] <matto> another question, how do i know if rocklinux is the right distribution? [20:13] <matto> (for me) [20:13] <blindcoder> a) by trying it [20:13] <th> matto: the answer is no. [20:13] <blindcoder> b) by defining what "the right distribution" is for you [20:13] <nick01> blindcoder: your isos on the ftp- are they 2.0 or 2.1 ? [20:13] <th> matto: cause it is NOT a distribution [20:13] <blindcoder> c) by listening to th :) [20:14] <blindcoder> nick01: TRUNK [20:14] <blindcoder> nick01: 2.1 has been renamed [20:14] <blindcoder> hmm [20:14] <nick01> blindcoder: renamed TRUNK ? :d [20:14] <blindcoder> should update doc [20:14] <blindcoder> nick01: yes [20:15] <blindcoder> nick01: see https://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20050302.140013.c9f684a9.html [20:16] <matto> i do not like debian and gentoo, and archlinux (on my other machine) is 686 up. i want a small system with few textfiles to configure it and a network tool to install software, like pacman and i thougt that rocket does the job? [20:17] <daja77> it will do for crystal [20:18] <th> matto: the point is that rock is not a distribution. it's a tool to build distributions on your own. [20:19] <th> matto: and then there is crystal - a full featured reference distribution [20:19] <matto> th: ok then i think i want crystal [20:19] <blindcoder> th: any objection if I punch that into ROCKDoc for now? [20:19] <th> blindcoder: you mean what i just said? [20:20] <blindcoder> yeah [20:20] <th> blindcoder: no objections at all. [20:20] nick01_ (~nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro) joined #rocklinux. [20:20] <blindcoder> until I find time to write something real around it [20:20] <th> blindcoder: it's propably a good idea - cause we are telling that over and over again [20:21] <nick01_> k- so where do I get my trunk iso ? [20:21] <th> nick01_: what do you think a trunk iso is? [20:21] <nick01_> devel iso ? [20:21] <th> nick01_: "trunk" is not a distribution [20:21] <nick01_> I know [20:21] <daja77> but there a still some isos to play with ... [20:21] <nick01_> I want a iso [20:21] <th> nick01_: "trunk" is a specification of a revision of the distribution build kit [20:22] <th> nick01_: play with crystal [20:22] <nick01_> so where do I find the latest iso ? [20:22] <th> nick01_: at https://iso.rocklinux.de [20:23] <nick01_> lol [20:23] <nick01_> which one ? [20:23] <th> which what? [20:23] <nick01_> ISO !!! [20:23] <th> the latest. [20:23] <blindcoder> please, no shouting [20:23] <matto> hi so is it worth to try crystal rev. 5370 from thomas "fake" jakobi [20:23] <blindcoder> we can read just fine in lowercase :) [20:23] <nick01_> the latest is daja [20:23] <blindcoder> that should be Mostly Bugfree(tm) [20:23] <th> matto: "fake" only publishes high quality ;-) [20:24] <th> nick01_: then "daja" [20:24] <nick01_> but there are more than one [20:24] <th> nick01_: true [20:24] <nick01_> a fake then ? [20:25] <th> nick01_: i don't understand that question. [20:25] <nick01_> from the fake dir :) [20:25] <th> nick01_: these 4 words even contain no verb. [20:25] <nick01_> lol [20:25] <matto> th: ok! ;-) i´ll give that a try. [20:25] <matto> lol [20:26] <nick01_> ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/unofficial/fake/ [20:26] <blindcoder> https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/crystal/x86/ [20:26] <th> nick01_: sorry - but it's hard for me to understand you if you dont use verbs. [20:26] <blindcoder> only one crystal from fake [20:26] <th> blindcoder: lost verbs too? [20:26] <blindcoder> verbs for weaklings [20:26] <blindcoder> real men everything! :) [20:26] <th> oh i see [20:26] <matto> is rocklinux a mostly german linux-build-kit whatever [20:27] <nick01_> blindcoder: does it have KDE ? or gnome or what ? [20:27] <th> verbs - bad things. [20:27] <matto> lol [20:27] <th> verbs - the enemy [20:27] <blindcoder> nick01_: kde [20:27] <th> no verbs anymore. [20:27] <nick01_> blindcoder: what version ? the fake one I mean :P [20:27] <blindcoder> crystal is a kde distribution if you want to say so [20:27] <blindcoder> nick01_: 3.3.2 I think [20:27] Action: nick01_ wants 3.4 [20:27] <blindcoder> then build your own [20:27] <th> matto: it's roots are austrian. [20:28] <th> matto: there is a developer gallery somewhere - you can do some statistics on the nationalities there ;-] [20:28] <nick01_> isn't there a build with 3.4 ? [20:28] <blindcoder> there is, for p3 [20:28] <nick01_> :( [20:28] <matto> th: i am german ;) [20:29] <th> matto: me too [20:29] <blindcoder> nick01_: look at https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/BuildingDistributions [20:29] <blindcoder> nick01_: to learn how to build your own [20:29] <nick01_> :/ [20:29] <nick01_> that's too much [20:29] <th> blindcoder: he propably has no computer. [20:29] <th> blindcoder: so he cant build [20:30] <blindcoder> livecd :) [20:30] <nick01_> lol [20:30] <daja77> blindcoder: and besides, rock should be usable without compiling ... [20:30] <nick01_> I just don't wanna compile stuff like kde and x myself [20:30] <blindcoder> daja77: it is [20:31] <blindcoder> daja77: if you use the -stable releas and don't insist on bleeding-edge software [20:31] <th> ...or are capable of working around some problems... [20:31] Action: blindcoder nods sagely [20:32] nick01_ (~nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [20:33] <matto> rocklinux has it´s own package format, does it? is there an "easy" to use building system (i mean setting up a directory and writing one ore two config files) [20:33] <blindcoder> what do you mean witd building system? [20:33] <th> there was a word missing [20:33] <blindcoder> th: let me guess: a verb? :) [20:34] <th> blindcoder: dont know. might be. [20:35] <matto> blindcoder: archlinux has a so called building system. you have to make a directory and place a packagescript into it. then running makepkg makes a archlinux.pkg.tar.gz [20:35] <th> ahhh [20:35] <th> no [20:35] <th> nothing missing [20:35] <th> got it now [20:36] <th> matto: yes there is an easy-to-use-building-system [20:36] <th> matto: there is a generic build (486) build-bootstrap package selection [20:36] <th> matto: you can easily extract it (tar) and build from within [20:37] nick01 (~nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:37] <th> matto: only talking of 2.0-stable here. [20:37] <th> dont know if there is a build-bootstrap-like distribution for trunk [20:40] <blindcoder> livecd :) [20:41] <blindcoder> there's also mkpkg and mine [20:41] <th> is livecd finally capable of building a target? [20:41] <blindcoder> yes [20:41] <th> cool [20:41] <blindcoder> at least to my knowledge [20:43] <blindcoder> damn [20:44] <blindcoder> don't you just hate that after reading/writing english for some time you start thinking in english? [20:44] <daja77> hehe [20:45] <matto> th: thanks [20:51] SteffenP (~steffen@p54997C07.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [20:55] markuman (~markuman@p509272CB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Verlassend" [21:56] matto (~matto@iD4CC1B10.versanet.de) left irc: "Verlassend" [23:42] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Wed May 11 2005