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[06:24] SteffenP (n=steffen@p54995C1B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:32] [anders] (n=snafu@karlsson.force9.co.uk) got netsplit. [06:43] [anders] (n=snafu@karlsson.force9.co.uk) got lost in the net-split. [06:47] [anders] (n=snafu@karlsson.force9.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [07:44] steffen_ (i=steffen@p54996AF5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:24] <blindcoder> moin [09:07] <owl> moin [09:13] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dsl-084-059-049-051.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:13] blindcoder (n=blindcod@84.59.36.46) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:14] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [09:18] <blindcoder> moin owl [09:22] <owl> hi blindy [09:57] <th> how can i get information about a mounted filesystem? [09:57] <th> like what fs it has? [09:57] <th> size and usage? [09:57] <blindcoder> mount and df [09:57] <th> df reads mtab only [09:57] <th> mtab is generated from /proc/mounts only [09:57] <blindcoder> ehm, so? [09:57] <th> which only has rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 [09:57] <th> which only has "rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0" [09:58] <blindcoder> hmm [09:58] <th> mount only shows /proc [09:58] <blindcoder> blindcoder@ceres:~$ mount [09:58] <blindcoder> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 on / type reiserfs (rw) [09:58] <blindcoder> you're doing something wrong :) [09:58] <th> no - i'm only in an early booting stage [09:58] <blindcoder> ah [09:58] <th> want to have confirmation for some things [09:58] <blindcoder> well, why don't you just tell me what you want to do? :) [09:59] <th> like that it's really the initramfs [09:59] <th> and i want to know the size and stuff [09:59] <blindcoder> ah [09:59] <blindcoder> well, you can get the fstype with disktypre [09:59] <th> just confirmations [09:59] <blindcoder> well, you can get the fstype with disktypee [09:59] <th> no real problem [09:59] <blindcoder> disktype [09:59] <th> disktype. [09:59] <th> would need this one [09:59] <th> but i can dd some bytes and run disktype off-site [09:59] <blindcoder> --- /dev/discs/disc0/part3 [09:59] <blindcoder> Block device, size 18.49 GiB (19855245312 bytes) [09:59] <blindcoder> ReiserFS file system (new 3.6 format, standard journal, starts at 64 KiB) [09:59] <blindcoder> UUID E82ABC06-1261-40FF-B65B-31797B771EAA (DCE, v4) [09:59] <blindcoder> Volume size 18.49 GiB (19855245312 bytes, 4847472 blocks of 4 KiB) [09:59] <th> yea that's an idea [10:00] <th> haha need the root-device tho [10:00] <blindcoder> that way you also get the size of the fs [10:00] <th> which i dont have [10:00] <th> creating /dev/root was a job devfs did [10:00] <th> kernel-side [10:00] <blindcoder> I've never actually used /dev/root [10:01] <th> well that here is no /dev/discs/ anything [10:01] <blindcoder> then use /dev/ide/foo or /dev/hda [10:03] <th> it's in ram! [10:03] <th> no ide [10:03] <th> no scsi [10:03] <th> i've even no /dev populated. [10:03] <blindcoder> ah [10:03] <blindcoder> put udevstart onto the initrd :P [10:03] <th> i thought something in /proc could come to my help [10:04] <th> it's no initrd ;) [10:04] <blindcoder> o_O [10:04] <blindcoder> okay [10:04] <blindcoder> so [10:04] <th> if it was.. it would be a ramdev [10:04] <blindcoder> what [10:04] <blindcoder> have [10:04] <blindcoder> you [10:04] <th> initramfs [10:04] <blindcoder> done? [10:04] <th> should be ramdev [10:04] <th> passed a cpio to the kernel [10:04] <th> as initial ramfs [10:04] <th> it's all related to my question in $topic ;) [10:05] <blindcoder> you know [10:05] <blindcoder> you could just have a look at the mkinitrdnew.sh I submitted to TRUNK [10:05] <blindcoder> and soon there will be a patch making that one the default mkinitrd [10:05] <th> initrd is somewhat obsolete [10:06] <blindcoder> o_O [10:06] <blindcoder> that's the first time I hear that [10:08] <th> but you propably saw the config option in kernel-conf for source of initramfs cpio [10:08] <blindcoder> hmm [10:08] <blindcoder> don't think so [10:08] <blindcoder> let me get out my laptop [10:09] <th> sorry to scare you with all this ;) [10:09] <blindcoder> I mean, isn't cpio in itself a bit obsolete? [10:10] <th> hehe [10:10] <th> it's only the archive [10:10] <th> i bet it suited better than tar... dont know why [10:12] <blindcoder> I see the initramfl source file(s) option [10:12] <blindcoder> but nothing indicating it superseding initrd [10:13] <th> it's not really superseding [10:15] <th> https://www.redhat.com/archives/dm-devel/2004-September/msg00008.html [10:15] <th> last <p> [10:16] <blindcoder> sooo [10:17] <blindcoder> they want to do more crap like moving devfs into userspace? [10:17] <th> yepp [10:17] <blindcoder> why do I suddenly feel that linux is doomed? [10:17] <th> i cant second that POV [10:18] <th> there is some stuff in kernel that should be userspace [10:18] <th> you're even more flexible then [10:19] <blindcoder> if they do it as good as udev, then it is [10:19] <th> ;> [10:19] <th> could i smell some irony here? [10:20] <blindcoder> unless your sense of smell is totally gone, you ca [10:20] <blindcoder> n [10:22] <th> you like bloated kernel? [10:22] <blindcoder> I like stuff that works [10:22] <blindcoder> and I'm not sure if I can say that about udev [10:22] <th> i bet you can [10:23] <th> how many distros are on udev only by now? [10:23] <blindcoder> does it finally give anything else but exit(0); on error? [10:24] <th> you are free to use anything else in userspace for what udev does. [10:25] <blindcoder> heh, where's the alternative? [10:25] <th> it's up to you [10:25] <th> you can extract a .tar on your /dev [10:25] <th> or use bash to do everything [10:26] <blindcoder> don't tempt me :) [10:26] <th> hehe [10:26] <blindcoder> https://shellscripts.org/ [10:26] <th> udev-068: [10:26] <blindcoder> 'nuff said [10:26] <th> ccdv.c: exit(96); [10:26] <th> ccdv.c: exit(97); [10:26] <th> ccdv.c: exit(98); [10:26] <th> ccdv.c: exit(99); [10:26] <th> ccdv.c: exit(gExitStatus); [10:26] <blindcoder> wow [10:26] <th> udev.c: exit(1); [10:26] <th> udev.c: exit(20 + signum); [10:26] <th> udev_utils_run.c: _exit(1); [10:26] <th> udevcontrol.c: exit(0); [10:27] <th> lot's of exit's with != 0 [10:27] <blindcoder> I feel delighted [10:27] <blindcoder> does it exit != 0 when no sysfs is mounted? [10:27] <th> lemme see [10:28] <th> talking of udevd or udevstart? [10:28] <blindcoder> both [10:28] <blindcoder> well [10:28] <blindcoder> yeah, both [10:29] <blindcoder> udevd should at least log a message that no sysfs was found [10:29] <blindcoder> it took me the better part of an hour to figure that out [10:29] <netrunner> tomorrow at that time I'll descend to mailand [10:29] <th> dbg("sysfs_open_class_device_path failed"); [10:30] <blindcoder> th: wow. I believe it not! [10:32] <th> there is some code that WAITs for some stuff in /sys to appear [10:32] <th> devices_dev = wait_devices_device_open(path); [10:32] <th> if (!devices_dev) { [10:32] <th> dbg("devices device unavailable (probably remove has beaten us)"); [10:33] <th> return 0; [10:33] <th> } [10:33] <blindcoder> guess I should update udev [10:33] <blindcoder> I'm running 63 here [10:33] <th> well i'm only flying over the code... [10:34] <th> perhaps you still need to set some debug level somewhere [10:35] <blindcoder> well, I did in the config file IIRC [10:36] <esden> hi ho *dying* [10:36] <th> hi dying esden [10:36] <netrunner> oh, 050 here :) [10:36] <blindcoder> moin esden [10:36] <esden> ok ... still another lesson to go :D [10:37] <esden> my legs are very good for steaks now ;) [10:37] <netrunner> there's already 68 [10:38] <esden> I have a question ... how much does fuel cost at the moment in germany? [10:38] <esden> I mean hear normal fuel [10:39] <th> it just dropped like 10ct few days ago [10:39] <th> it was at 1.49EUR for me [10:39] <th> today i saw 1.37 for super [10:39] <th> aral [10:39] <esden> so normal about 1.30? [10:41] <esden> ok ... 1.329 at jet in berlin [10:41] <blindcoder> 132 I think [10:41] <esden> nice site: https://www.clever-tanken.de [10:41] <blindcoder> hehe [10:41] <blindcoder> though I personally use diesel :) [10:43] <owl> sigh. super :( [10:43] <esden> I know [10:43] <esden> I should also have a disel car ... with this amount of km I am making a year... [10:46] <blindcoder> yeah [10:50] <daja77_> <- got one ^^ [11:06] <netrunner> normal here is 1.38 [11:54] <owl> ARGH. someone wants roasted hamster? [11:56] <owl> hamster includes owl's breakfast :( [11:57] <th> yepp [11:57] <th> me [11:57] <th> i'm hungry [11:58] <th> could you fedex it? [11:58] <th> express please [11:59] <owl> hrm :) "amerikaner" too? but - parts of it are missing. eaten by this pseudo-rat [11:59] <th> yea would be cool [12:00] <owl> hehe. enjoy it ;) [12:24] <esden> humm ... what are you doing with your hamster? [12:24] <esden> plugging it into the wall or what? [12:24] Action: esden getting hungry too [12:24] <esden> but first a shower is needed [12:26] <blindcoder> heh [12:27] <blindcoder> or they won't let you into the fast food house? :D [12:28] <owl> esden: nah. she stole/ate parts of my breakfast... ;) [12:40] <blindcoder> hmm [12:40] <blindcoder> I think I'm going to take a day off tomorrow [12:54] <esden> blindcoder: nice ;) [12:54] <esden> so I will see you directly when I arrive [12:54] <esden> I want to leave here about 9 or 10 am [12:58] <blindcoder> okay [12:58] <blindcoder> so then you'll arrive when? approximately? [13:11] <owl> .oO( hoellenhunde. satans hoellenhunde. ... ) [13:15] <blindcoder> hoeh? [13:15] <blindcoder> where? [13:16] <owl> @satan... you know this shop... [13:16] <owl> <- tried about 2 hours to reach the hoellenhunde... [13:16] <blindcoder> aaah [13:17] <owl> either the line was busy or nobody replied to the telephone [13:17] <blindcoder> heh [13:17] <blindcoder> they saw your number in the display [13:18] <owl> well. i 've two phones... the one with *2 the other with *0 ;) [13:18] <blindcoder> too obvious [13:19] <owl> :) [14:14] <esden> re [14:14] <esden> hehe ... /me using his new glasses the first time ... humm [14:14] <esden> will see how it feels over time [14:15] <esden> currently I have to admit it feels strange ;) [14:16] <daja77_> [x] send pics [14:17] <blindcoder> esden with glasses o_O [14:17] <blindcoder> since when do you wear glasses? [14:17] <esden> since some minutes ago [14:17] <esden> only for computer work [14:17] <blindcoder> okay... [14:17] <blindcoder> ah [14:17] <esden> +0.5 and +0.75 [14:17] <daja77_> I still want to see pics :p [14:17] <esden> so very small ones [14:18] Action: esden downloading pics from his camera [14:22] <owl> O_O [14:22] <daja77_> no O-O [14:23] <daja77_> :D [14:23] <owl> *g* [14:23] <esden> https://www.esden.net/gallery/me_unsorted/Glasses_1 <- here you are [14:24] <daja77_> hehe [14:25] <esden> daja77_: :P [14:25] Action: esden get's older ;) [14:26] <daja77_> yes we all can see this now ^^ [14:26] <esden> :P [14:26] <esden> 8P [14:26] <owl> .oO( some people, same thoughts ) [14:27] <blindcoder> now you really look like a student :D [14:27] <esden> lol ... [14:27] <esden> computer science geek student [14:27] <esden> you wanted to say [14:29] <blindcoder> whatever :) [14:29] <daja77_> damnit [14:29] <daja77_> fire alert, I hate it [14:29] <esden> ROFL [14:29] <esden> have fun! [14:29] <esden> run for your life [14:30] <blindcoder> esden: actually, you look like a medicine studentt [14:30] <esden> YUCK!!! my holy god!!! [14:30] Action: esden taking off his glasses and running to give them back! [14:30] <daja77_> it really sucks to have the chemistry department next door sometimes [14:32] <owl> hehe. contact-lenses? ;) [14:37] <esden> owl: no fire alarms [14:38] <owl> esden: i mean instead of glasses [14:39] <daja77_> that damn sirene is finally off [14:42] <esden> owl: what for? ... I need them only when I am sitting in front of the computer [14:43] <daja77_> conclusion: you need them always [14:43] <esden> daja77_: :P [14:43] <esden> I love you too [14:43] <daja77_> *gg* [14:44] <owl> hm. k. well. they're quite usable normally... btw, not also while driving? [14:49] youngcoder (n=codemast@210.79.190.33) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:11] <esden> owl: nope [15:11] <esden> I do see good ... [15:11] <esden> I only want to spare them [15:12] <owl> O_O [16:12] <daja77_> damn freenode [16:12] <blindcoder> why this time? [16:12] <daja77_> same thing [16:13] <daja77_> haven't noticed the nick change [16:13] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77 [16:13] <blindcoder> so? [16:14] <daja77> so i could'nt send a private message again [16:15] <blindcoder> heh [16:16] <blindcoder> yay, commit storm [16:16] <blindcoder> and I just finished the build for my laptop :/ [16:17] <daja77> hehe [16:17] <daja77> so clifford is alive [16:17] <blindcoder> for varying definitions of alive :) [16:17] <blindcoder> AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH [16:18] <blindcoder> this is an outrage! [16:18] <daja77> ? [16:18] <blindcoder> FSCKING STUPID "TOP" MANAGERS [16:18] <blindcoder> here they are [16:18] <blindcoder> sending an invitation around to ALL COM EMPLOYEES [16:18] <blindcoder> for a repeating event [16:18] <blindcoder> and because reaction to some former events were negative [16:19] <blindcoder> they ask for feedback on four things [16:19] <blindcoder> they mention these four things in the mail [16:19] <blindcoder> AND THEN THEY ATTACH A EXCEL FILE WHERE EACH POINTS STANDS ALONE ON THE FIRST LINE ON ITS OWN TABLE! [16:19] <blindcoder> and only this point! [16:20] <blindcoder> four maps in one file with around 10 words each! [16:20] <blindcoder> "for better feedback" [16:20] <owl> hahahaha [16:20] <daja77> LOL [16:20] <blindcoder> oh, and they don't just esnd it once but TWICE [16:21] <blindcoder> once on tuesday and then again today! [16:21] <owl> blindy, you see - we feel with you *smile* [16:21] <blindcoder> yeah [16:21] <daja77> doppelt hält besser :D [16:21] <owl> :) [16:21] <blindcoder> luckily, I can ignore it since I'm not an employee of COM [16:21] Action: blindcoder makes three crosses [16:22] <owl> *g* [16:24] <blindcoder> It's not bad enough that our team assistant sends a mail each day when the "Fruehstuecks Catering Scheis^WService" is here [16:25] <blindcoder> well, a short filter rule and everything is fine :) [16:25] <blindcoder> If (From: Team Assistant) Then (Delete); [16:25] <blindcoder> :D [16:26] sparc-kly|univ (n=qaz@66-50-123-218.prtc.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:27] <blindcoder> okay, I'll be off to kendo [16:27] <blindcoder> bye [16:27] <daja77> cu [16:41] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54996AF5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:41] aneredes (n=hannes@port-212-202-55-34.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Client Quit [16:48] sparc-kly|univ (n=qaz@66-50-123-218.prtc.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:24] kasc_ (i=kasc@dsl-082-083-050-191.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:35] kasc (i=kasc@dsl-084-060-104-114.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:35] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [17:47] <mnemoc> blindcoder: do you get "Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now )" messages ? [18:52] <owl> aeh. mnemoc youre confusing me [19:16] <owl> gargh. gargh. gargh. someone wants to be shot. i will build a "schiessstand" [19:22] <mnemoc> :) [20:43] <blindcoder> mnemoc: are you in multiple chatnets besides freenode? [20:43] <mnemoc> yes [20:43] <mnemoc> i get that message on bitblee [20:43] <mnemoc> no problem on gimpnet or oftc [20:44] <mnemoc> can i disable keepnick on that 'network'? [20:45] <blindcoder> no, just define a chatnet for it in ~/.irssi/config [20:55] <mnemoc> oh [20:55] <mnemoc> but /server say: [20:55] <mnemoc> [14:56:58] im.everdot.org 6667 BitlBee autoconnect [20:55] <mnemoc> so it has a chatnet, or not? [20:57] <blindcoder> hmm [20:57] <blindcoder> actually, it should [20:58] <blindcoder> but I get those messages sometimes and they've been harmless but annoying so far [20:59] <mnemoc> very annoying some times :( [20:59] <blindcoder> you can just comment that line in the source [21:00] <blindcoder> it doesn't really mean anything [21:00] <mnemoc> good idea :) [21:01] <blindcoder> Use the source, luke! [21:04] <mnemoc> should i reload the 'plugin'? [21:04] <blindcoder> yes [21:06] <mnemoc> let see :) [21:38] treo (n=xfman@D9014.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [21:39] <treo> hi :D [21:42] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. 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