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[05:18] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [05:37] westl (n=Pwn3r@d142-179-76-233.bchsia.telus.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:37] <westl> hi [05:48] <westl> im attempting to build a bootdisk from 2.0.3 with default options but i get an error almost immediately [05:51] <westl> i have pasted the errors here if anyone thinks they can give me their advice [05:51] <westl> https://authors.aspalliance.com/aylar/ViewPasteCode.aspx?PasteCodeID=4677 [06:09] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:20] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54995914.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:21] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54993FD6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [06:28] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [06:58] skaar (n=skaar@c-65-96-73-142.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:00] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:02] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:05] westl (n=Pwn3r@d142-179-76-233.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: [07:20] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [09:27] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:28] <blindcoder> moin [09:42] <netrunner> moin, 2 [09:42] <netrunner> well, noon here :) [09:43] <netrunner> any samba browser recommendable? [09:43] <blindcoder> bah [09:43] <blindcoder> hm [09:43] <blindcoder> konquerer [09:43] <blindcoder> ? [09:47] <netrunner> our konqueror doesn't support the smb protocol as I mentioned yesterday. [09:47] <netrunner> (at least mine in latest full build does not) [09:48] <blindcoder> so fix it :) [09:48] <clifford> netrunner: anything we can do to change that (passing an additional configure option, etc) ? [09:48] <netrunner> clifford: if my build server would be running, I'd start do find that out. but I cannot reach it for the 2tkm distance :) [09:48] <netrunner> clifford: but I guess it's something in that direction. [09:49] <clifford> ok. I guess you will look into it an send a patch then.. [09:49] <blindcoder> :) [09:49] <netrunner> there is /opt/kde3/share/services/smb.protocol missing, as well as /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/kio_smb.{la,so} [09:50] Action: clifford turned on his SEP filters. ;-) [09:50] <blindcoder> *laughs* [09:50] <netrunner> clifford: yes, when I get home ... in january [09:51] <blindcoder> clifford: can you send me the sonar data from your last refbuild? [09:52] <clifford> yes. but I can tell you for what this data is because after applying the smap journal I have tested the e17 update and some other stuff with it. [09:52] <clifford> so it is a zero-errors build now. [09:52] <clifford> .. which does neigther reflect current trunk nor my current journal. [09:52] <blindcoder> ah, okay, then next time :) [09:53] <clifford> it is running already. [09:53] Action: blindcoder dl'ing kdebase meanwhile [09:53] <blindcoder> okay, fine with me :) [10:01] <netrunner> hm, what could be wrong if a pc continuously requests ip addresses via dhcp, but does not accept the offers? cable? [10:01] <blindcoder> okay, kdebase's configure doesn't find libsmbclient.h in /opt/samba/include [10:03] Action: blindcoder re-running configure [10:04] <netrunner> clifford: what's the guys name that invented pascal? [10:05] <clifford> wirth? (not sure if the spelling is correct) [10:05] <netrunner> ah. was not sure if I understood him correctly yesterday. [10:05] <clifford> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_(Programmiersprache) [10:06] <netrunner> impressive person. but a bit old nowadays :) [10:06] <clifford> he wrote an interesting paper about programming languages which allow you to declare your own syntax constructs. [10:07] <clifford> .. so you first declare your kind-of own language in your porgram prologue and then the programm in this language. [10:08] <clifford> .. but he statet that this would not make much sense because anyone else had to learn you language before they can understand your code. [10:08] <clifford> this was long time before C++ and templates. *g* [10:09] <netrunner> yesterday he said, a language should be constructed for a given parser, not vice versa. [10:10] <blindcoder> hmm [10:10] <blindcoder> _why_ are the samba libraries in /opt/samba/lib/samba/ ? [10:13] <blindcoder> netrunner: add --with-extra-includes=/opt/samba/include --with-extra-libs=/opt/samba/lib/samba/ to kdebase [10:13] <blindcoder> then it should work [10:14] <blindcoder> clifford: should the samba libraries stay in /opt/samba/lib/samba/ or be moved to a sane place? [10:14] <netrunner> blindcoder: I won't rebuild kdebase on my laptop. do I look like a gentoo user? [10:14] <blindcoder> netrunner: *laughs* okay [10:14] <blindcoder> netrunner: what laptop? pentium-m with kde 3.4.2? [10:15] <netrunner> pentium mobile, yes. [10:15] <blindcoder> and kde-3.4.2? [10:15] <netrunner> blindcoder: could you give me the 2 files I mentioned? that could suffice ... [10:16] <blindcoder> netrunner: no, it won't because there's some code and stuff in kdebase that needs linking against libsmbclient [10:16] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes, I think that is only the kio_smb.so [10:16] <clifford> blindcoder: var/adm/parse-config/samba defines $pkg_samba_prefix [10:16] <blindcoder> clifford: yes, but not that insane lib/samba/ [10:17] <blindcoder> clifford: that won't even be found by ldconfig [10:18] <clifford> hmm.. seams like samba is broken here (the original thing, not our samba package) [10:18] <blindcoder> yes :) [10:18] <clifford> hard to tell.. [10:19] <netrunner> damn, I removed too many packages from my laptop. cannot build smbc because I am missing some liblber and libldap :/ [10:19] <netrunner> stupid full build all against all dependencies. [10:20] <netrunner> can't we invent a library loading mechanism that loads libs only when they are really needed? [10:20] <blindcoder> clifford: personally I'd like the samba libs in $prefix/lib [10:20] <blindcoder> netrunner: that exists. It's called dload IIRC and in glibc for ages [10:21] <blindcoder> netrunner: it's just that no-one uses it [10:22] <clifford> blindcoder: how do you think does SPL load its modules? [10:23] <blindcoder> clifford: okay, almost noone :) [10:23] <blindcoder> gpsdrive uses dload, too [10:23] <blindcoder> hmm [10:23] <blindcoder> both are made in .at [10:23] <blindcoder> I see a trend there :) [10:26] <netrunner> austrians don't like bindings, they are only for short relations :) [10:27] <blindcoder> *laughs* [10:30] <netrunner> oh, a new kphone, maybe that reduces my 7 seconds delay a bit [10:33] <blindcoder> hmm [10:33] <blindcoder> lib/samba seems to be fhs [10:35] <blindcoder> so either we add /opt/*/lib/* and /usr/lib/*/. to /etc/ld.so.conf [10:35] <blindcoder> or we break fhs [10:36] <blindcoder> /opt/*/lib/*. rather [10:36] <blindcoder> /opt/*/lib/*/. rather [10:36] <blindcoder> that way :) [10:36] <blindcoder> clifford: ? [10:36] <clifford> huch? [10:36] <clifford> I'm on the phone right now... [10:36] <blindcoder> clifford: ah, okay :) [10:56] <netrunner> blindcoder: could you send be kio_smb.* and smb.protocol of your new kdebase if you have time? [10:56] Action: netrunner -> dinner [10:58] <clifford> blindcoder: this definitely is not FHS. [11:02] <blindcoder> clifford: then samba fscks up fhs [11:03] <blindcoder> okay, so I'll make samba install to $prefix/lib [11:03] <blindcoder> and not $prefix/lib/samba/ [11:04] <clifford> ok. [11:04] <blindcoder> and make kdebase find it there :) [11:18] Action: blindcoder re-emerging kdebase [11:42] <blindcoder> patches submitted [11:53] <daja77> speaking of kde ... [12:00] <blindcoder> yeah, the devil :) [12:00] <daja77> no [12:00] <daja77> I'd suggest to compile the libs needed by kmail to support encryption in core ... because that's the standard mailer we ship [12:01] <blindcoder> which libs are those? [12:01] <daja77> mom [12:03] <daja77> libksba, libassuan, pth, gnupg2, gpg-error [12:03] <daja77> iirc [12:03] <blindcoder> flag them as CORE and send the patch :) [12:04] <clifford> daja77: yep. sounds like a good idea. [12:04] <daja77> ok [12:06] <blindcoder> clifford: btw, your TODO specifies enhancements to Emerge-Pkg and Update-System [12:06] <blindcoder> clifford: can you elaborate on those two? [12:07] <daja77> d'oh gcc4 build aborted die cksum error in gcc [12:14] <blindcoder> hmm [12:15] <blindcoder> why does kdebase always take ages to compile :( [12:17] <daja77> because g++ is slow [12:18] <blindcoder> heh, okay :) [12:27] <blindcoder> ah, done [12:29] <blindcoder> and smb:// is there :) [12:50] Nick change: BoS -> BoS|afk [13:29] markuman (n=markuman@p50927181.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:40] <netrunner> blindcoder: could you send be kio_smb.* and smb.protocol of your new kdebase if you have time? [13:43] <blindcoder> where should they be? [13:45] <netrunner> there is /opt/kde3/share/services/smb.protocol, as well as /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/kio_smb.{la,so} [13:45] <netrunner> maybe throwing them in suffices. [13:45] <blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/netrunnet.tbz2 [13:46] <netrunner> received. thx [13:46] <netrunner> btw, netrunneR [13:46] <blindcoder> yeah, whatever :) [13:47] <blindcoder> I blame it on the phase of the moon :) [13:47] <blindcoder> I mean, 96% full [13:47] <blindcoder> that's a full moon in nethack! [13:47] <netrunner> why is that kio_smb.so linked against libstdc++.so.{5,6} ? [13:48] <netrunner> wouldn't one suffice? [13:48] <blindcoder> probably because I have both gcc-32 and -34 here on the system [13:48] <netrunner> aha. [14:21] skaar (n=skaar@c-65-96-73-142.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left #rocklinux. [15:02] Action: clifford likes k3b. [15:02] Action: netrunner too. [15:24] <blindcoder> why? [15:37] <daja77> if it works it is ok :) [15:38] <blindcoder> I have cdrecord for that job :P [15:39] <daja77> yeah me too but for image creation it is quite ok [15:42] Action: netrunner just made 400MB traffic in 2h phone call [15:43] <blindcoder> daja77: that's what I have an alias to mkisofs for :) [15:44] <daja77> called scripts/Create-ISO :D [15:51] <blindcoder> pff [15:51] <blindcoder> nah [15:51] <blindcoder> cd_on_the_fly () [15:51] <blindcoder> { [15:51] <blindcoder> cdblocks=`mkisofs -print-size -quiet -R -J -l -allow-lowercase "$@"`; [15:51] <blindcoder> mkisofs -v -R -J -l -allow-lowercase "$@" | cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 speed=48 fs=8192000 driveropts=burnproof -force -vv tsize=${cdblocks}s - [15:51] <blindcoder> } [15:58] <daja77> gcc4 build enters stage 1 now the fun starts [15:59] <blindcoder> daja77: trying a gcc4 only build? [15:59] <daja77> yes [15:59] <blindcoder> heh [15:59] <blindcoder> good luck [15:59] <daja77> :) [16:00] <blindcoder> guess I'll do a normal build of crystal so that there's a recent iso again [16:00] <daja77> yes that would be great [16:01] <blindcoder> daja77: had a look at fisheye? [16:01] <daja77> a glance [16:01] <blindcoder> what do you think about it? [16:01] <daja77> hm haven't found the superior features yet ;) [16:02] <blindcoder> superior? [16:02] <blindcoder> to what? [16:02] <blindcoder> it's true that it's somewhat slow :( [16:03] <daja77> to the plain svn view [16:03] <daja77> or to say viewcvs [16:04] <blindcoder> I like the age annotation and rss feeds, personally [16:04] <daja77> ah rss feeds, yes that's good [16:04] <daja77> as I said only a quick glance so far [16:04] <blindcoder> you can have rss feeds for any directory or file you like including or excluding subdirs [16:04] <blindcoder> okay :) [16:07] Action: daja77 preparing some updates to the crypto tools [16:07] <blindcoder> cryptotools? [16:08] <daja77> the ones I mentioned above [16:08] <daja77> I thought before flagging them as core, updating would be nice [16:08] <blindcoder> ah [16:10] <blindcoder> pentium-mmx or pentium-3? [16:10] <daja77> the gcc4 build? [16:11] <blindcoder> the crystal build here :) [16:11] <daja77> ah, erh perhaps pentium-mmx according to the c3 bof session *sigh* [16:11] <blindcoder> ok [16:12] <daja77> argh! [16:12] <blindcoder> hm? [16:14] <daja77> the libksba version 0.9.12 is not available at the gun site 404 but needed by newest gnupg2 version [16:14] <daja77> gnu* [16:14] <blindcoder> hmpf :( [16:14] <daja77> hehe but spelling gnu as gun might have been intentionell [16:17] <daja77> ah found it on a different location [16:17] <blindcoder> :) [16:41] owl (n=owl@karnaya.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:41] <owl> hi [16:42] <blindcoder> moin owl [16:46] <owl> hi blindy [17:04] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dsl-082-082-191-039.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:04] <daja77> so patches are out [17:04] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dsl-082-082-214-178.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:05] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [17:11] <daja77> *sigh* [17:12] <blindcoder> hm? [17:12] <blindcoder> you're sighing and cursing an awful lot today [17:15] <daja77> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21704 ... 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