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[01:53] madtux (n=mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [01:53] <madtux> hello. [01:56] <mnemoc> hi madtux [01:59] <madtux> hello mnemoc. [02:04] madtux (n=mike@odin.informatica.co.cr) left irc: "leaving" [02:23] BoS|afk_ (n=bodo@dsl-082-082-240-137.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:38] BoS|afk (n=bodo@dsl-082-082-242-165.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:39] <cutio> hello world [07:48] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.20) joined #rocklinux. [07:49] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.91) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:52] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [08:25] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54996582.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:46] <blindcoder> moin [08:56] aneredes (n=hannes@port-212-202-55-34.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:06] aneredes (n=hannes@port-212-202-55-34.dynamic.qsc.de) joined #rocklinux. [09:25] <netrunner> moin, 2 [09:38] <netrunner> https://de.news.yahoo.com/050921/286/4p4m3.html [09:55] <blindcoder> MUAHAHA [09:59] Action: netrunner now knows how to dung his plants. [09:59] <blindcoder> hehe [10:08] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54996582.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [11:20] Action: netrunner wonders why smap doesn't work [11:24] <netrunner> smap <patch-id> gives me only the help :/ [11:32] <clifford> what's your <patch-id> ? [11:40] <blindcoder> no space left on device /home [11:40] <blindcoder> oops [11:46] <netrunner> smap 2005092210544925234 [11:49] <clifford> works here. [11:50] <netrunner> it only displays the help to me [11:50] <clifford> so debug it. [11:50] <clifford> i can reproduce the problem - so I can't debug it for you.. [11:51] <netrunner> the patch-id gets eaten somewhere. [11:53] <netrunner> lol [11:53] Action: netrunner cat'ed the sample entry with set to smap.cfg. the shell replaced the $@ with nothing. [12:07] Action: netrunner notices that blindcoder has many packages with insufficient title and description (e.g. "nice game/nice game") [12:09] <blindcoder> I do? [12:09] <blindcoder> hmm [12:09] <blindcoder> blah [12:09] Action: blindcoder goes through his packages [12:10] <blindcoder> oh, koules [12:14] <blindcoder> netrunner: okay, that "many packages" have turned out to be exactly ONE :P [12:18] <netrunner> blindcoder: there was another one whose name I do not remember that had only a one liner from which I couldn't see the nature of the game. [12:18] <netrunner> blindcoder: I will tell you if I stumble over it again [12:18] <blindcoder> okay [12:18] <blindcoder> two still doesn't make many :P [12:18] Action: netrunner is fascinated from typespeed. 4.7 CCPS in english [12:19] <blindcoder> gfingerpoken? [13:08] Action: netrunner curses gnome [13:15] markuman (n=markuman@p50926A22.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:18] Action: clifford just played his first game of gfpoken. [15:19] <daja77> what's that [15:20] <clifford> .. a nice game indeed. [15:20] <clifford> gfingerpoken [15:20] <daja77> :) [15:21] <clifford> I think I started it already a few times but never took the time to read the manual. [15:21] <clifford> And it's far away from beeing intuitive. [15:21] <daja77> I was astonished at what level siemens is selling crap software to the university [15:23] <clifford> what happened. di they sell you "the incredible machine" as physics simulation solution? [15:23] <clifford> s/di/did/ [15:23] <daja77> they sold software for student registration over internet, so every user had to login with the username and password, but they *didn't* check the password so everybody got it with any username at random [15:23] <clifford> *rotfl* [15:24] <clifford> maybe you just missunderstood the security concept: [15:24] <daja77> now this new service is offline and they are waiting for siemens to fix it [15:24] <clifford> siemens will sue everybode who logs in without permissions. [15:24] <daja77> haha yeah they introduced a tan bases system, but the tans can be predicted if you know the users name and matrikelnr [15:25] <clifford> *lol* [15:25] <daja77> one guy created the tan list for his brother ^^ [15:25] <clifford> like the crypto cyphers for the passport RFID chips. [15:26] <daja77> this is so redicilous [15:26] <daja77> I really want to know what the university paid for it [15:27] <clifford> no, i really think it would be better for you to not know that. [15:27] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:28] <daja77> hehe you might be right [15:29] <clifford> maybe its just the times, mabe it has been like that all the time and I'm just getting old now, i don't know. but I realize more and more: the best way to check if something is real is to check if it sucks. because that seams to be the most outstanding attribute of todays reality.. [15:30] <daja77> unfortunately this is no joke [15:30] <daja77> but it sounds like invented [15:31] <clifford> sure it is not a joke: it sucks, so it is most likely real. [15:31] <netrunner> hunger sucks. /me going to change this. [15:31] <daja77> weltverbesserer :P [15:32] <netrunner> no, only change mine :P [15:32] <clifford> I can see it already: the world is falling apart and a few hackers who surrived it will just give a shrug and tell the other: "We told you all the time. Next time: LISTEN." [15:32] <clifford> https://futurezone.orf.at/futurezone.orf?read=detail&id=275138&tmp=10638 [15:32] <clifford> .. stuff like that. [15:34] <daja77> yeah a country where innocent people were shot by the police should set such standards ... [15:34] <clifford> "no, I don't want to play your game anymore" [15:34] <clifford> I'm now going to make my own country! [15:34] <daja77> 4 years saving crap data [15:34] <daja77> we could join that guy that proclaimed an oil platform as his own state [15:35] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:35] <daja77> financing it by running pr0n servers [15:35] <clifford> .oO( With backjach and hookers ) [15:35] <daja77> definitely! [15:35] <clifford> oil platforms are expencive and not really required. [15:36] <netrunner> https://www.rp-online.de/public/article/nachrichten/journal/special/hurrikan-katrina/108103 [15:36] <netrunner> much fun running oil platforms :) [15:36] <daja77> we could use hans island, where danmark and canada fight about it [15:36] <clifford> no. [15:37] <daja77> just living in cyberspace? [15:37] <clifford> I had already some talks with meterologists about the topic. [15:38] <clifford> near the aequator, in the west of africa. [15:38] Action: daja77 is going to africa the first time in november [15:38] <clifford> that's the place where you have open sea and almos no weather. [15:39] <daja77> hehe [15:39] <clifford> https://www.binonabiso.com/de/kotambola/ (btw) [15:40] Action: daja77 trying to join the world summit for the information society in tunis this year [15:40] <clifford> .. we could build a city of e.g. old oil tanks. [15:40] <daja77> and blackjack ... [15:40] <clifford> a lot of room, they are swiming, and we could built a platform on top of that. [15:40] <daja77> we need internet there ^^ [15:41] <clifford> sure. we can't relocate to the open water without pr0n. *g* [15:41] <clifford> open sea, however [15:41] <daja77> hehe [15:42] <clifford> One square kilometer should be enough space for 50.000 people. [15:42] <clifford> (this is the limit to be recogniced by the UNO as souverain country) [15:43] <clifford> And I think the per-person price would be cheeper than flats in the city. [15:43] <daja77> but where to get 50.000 you want to live together with [15:43] <clifford> me? [15:43] <clifford> ;-) [15:43] <daja77> :D [15:44] <clifford> well - I am thinking about that for a few weeks now. [15:44] <daja77> clifford: btw I wrote a mail about dresden to the list, but used an address that isn't registered, could you perhaps approve it? [15:44] <clifford> I even wrote down notes about improved election systems, better money systems, etc. [15:45] <daja77> have you ever read the book utopia? [15:45] Action: netrunner found a nice movie about the white nights of petersburg in the campus lan. unfortunately I won't be able to show it to family, it's pr0n :/ [15:45] <netrunner> maybe I can cut some scenes out :) [15:45] <daja77> lol [15:45] <clifford> daja77: no. not yet. [15:46] <daja77> it is from 1516 about a fantasy state [15:46] Action: clifford spent his time reading books about alternative money systems the last months. [15:46] <daja77> hehe ic [15:47] <clifford> (I really mean it, but I'm afraid I wouldn't get the fonding for the project) [15:48] <daja77> i see we need a second bof at the c3 for this project ... [15:56] <blindcoder> re [16:05] <blindcoder> daja77: so still no official statement regardig dresden? [16:08] <daja77> nope [16:08] <daja77> blindcoder: you are working for siemens? *eg* [16:09] <blindcoder> daja77: yes? [16:10] <daja77> scroll back ;) and enjoy [16:10] <blindcoder> daja77: though I'm not being paid by siemens :) [16:10] <blindcoder> hmm, how far? [16:10] <daja77> 15:23 [16:13] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA [16:13] <blindcoder> sounds like siemens, all right [16:14] <daja77> sounds like never buy software from that company [16:14] Action: clifford hopes that he never needs to work for such companies.. [16:15] Action: daja77 too [16:16] <blindcoder> *shrug* Siemens is not a company [16:16] <blindcoder> Siemens is a "Behoerde" [16:16] <blindcoder> I mean, no sane company has unwritten rules that money spent within(!) the company is a Bad Thing [16:17] <blindcoder> ie: COM getting their PC Support from SBS is almost ridiculous to think about [16:18] <blindcoder> good thing that I'm not directly hired at siemens [16:20] <blindcoder> SBS - Siemens Bescheisst Siemens [16:20] <blindcoder> gah, I should stop ranting [16:20] <blindcoder> but after three days installing windows I feel more aggravated than usual [16:21] <clifford> blindcoder: our irc logs are searchable with google, btw. ;-) [16:22] <daja77> *gg* [16:22] <blindcoder> clifford: those are no secrets [16:23] <blindcoder> they should be happy that I don't write about that in my blog [16:23] <clifford> secrets - no. [16:23] <blindcoder> I sure feel like it [16:23] <clifford> but I don't work for them .. [16:24] <blindcoder> and I'm not a cheese steak. your point? [16:25] <daja77> blindcoder: not? damn it, nobody told me [16:25] <blindcoder> daja77: but you _could_ bring some cheese steaks to LTDD :) [16:26] <daja77> nah they will have enough steaks for everybody [16:26] <blindcoder> HORAAY! \o/ Zoidb^Wblindy will have something to eat! [16:26] <daja77> this debian machine with 650mb ram sucks >_< [16:26] <daja77> zoidberg hehe [16:28] <blindcoder> maybe I can get Livia to join us at LT [16:31] <blindcoder> clifford: nice idea for updates [16:31] <clifford> thanks. I just needed s.th. like that here.. ;-) [16:32] <daja77> livia? [16:32] <blindcoder> daja77: my gf [16:32] <daja77> ah ok, sure [16:32] <blindcoder> clifford: massive updates? [16:32] <daja77> updates? what are you talking about [16:32] <blindcoder> btw, anyone know what happened to the linux1394 project? [16:34] <clifford> just openssh and zlib. [16:34] <clifford> but calling Create-CkSumPatch twice was already one time to much. ;-) [16:34] <blindcoder> AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [16:34] <blindcoder> WHAT THE FUCK? [16:35] <blindcoder> Whe the hell writes these installation manuals? [16:35] <blindcoder> First: they assume four internal disks where ther are only two [16:35] <blindcoder> Second: they use slices 3 and 4 which must stay clear for veritas [16:35] <clifford> hyperthreading(tm) disks [16:35] <clifford> *lol* [16:36] <blindcoder> Three: they assume an automated installation which doesn't even exist yet! [16:36] <blindcoder> AARRGGHH [16:36] Action: blindcoder feels like whacking someone with a blessed +5 cluestick [16:37] <blindcoder> I love my work [16:37] <daja77> hehe [16:39] <clifford> see it that way: ROCK Linux has almost no documentation - and you handled it to. [16:40] <blindcoder> parser: failed to make sense from last line from user clifford. [16:40] <cutio> yay, the 3rd samsung hd is going back to samsung tomorrow [16:43] <clifford> blindcoder: well, you managed to handle an undocomented project. a poorly documented project can't be that hard then. [16:43] Action: daja77 pokes fake [16:43] <blindcoder> clifford: heh, true :) [16:43] <blindcoder> clifford: but I had esden as walking manpage back when I started with ROCK [16:44] <daja77> hehe he can't do that job atm [16:44] <clifford> aha. so ask esden now. it worked once - it might work again. ;-) [16:44] <daja77> he will kill you ^^ [16:44] <cutio> clifford: the problem of undocumented projects is that the new-users don't know how to solve a distribution specific problem, not everyone likes irc or mailling lists (wants to wait) [16:44] <clifford> I'm throwing pianos, what could he do against me? [16:45] <clifford> cutio: I never said that lack of documention is good. [16:45] <daja77> he could fight back by playing accordion [16:46] <clifford> .. and with the docwiki we have a pretty good documentaion now. [16:46] <daja77> yep [16:46] <cutio> clifford: so why doesnt a thing change? just the usual no time/no manpower i suppose, no? [16:46] <clifford> .. and with the docwiki we have a pretty good documentaion now. [16:47] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:47] <daja77> strange kind of bot ;) [16:47] <blindcoder> yeah :) [16:47] <blindcoder> almost fooled me there [16:47] <blindcoder> anyway, the docwiki still has holes in it large enough to drive a truck through [16:47] <blindcoder> but I simply don't understand most of them (crosscompiling for example) [16:48] <daja77> crosscompling hurts ;) [16:48] <blindcoder> okay, I'll write that into the wiki :) [16:49] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk/Documentation/BUILD-CROSS [16:50] <blindcoder> hmm, oky [16:50] <blindcoder> I'll put that into the docwiki [16:50] <blindcoder> but not yet, since I have to leave for kendo in a few minutes [16:51] <blindcoder> bye [16:51] <clifford> but I think doog docu for stuff such as 'rocket' and 'stone' are more important right now. [16:51] <clifford> bye [16:53] <daja77> .oO (wasting time and memory is fun ... if there is enough of both) [17:02] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dsl-084-059-054-215.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:02] <daja77> if he used his sword on the cable? [17:06] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dsl-084-059-045-209.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:35] clifford (n=clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:38] clifford (n=clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [21:14] <blindcoder> re [21:32] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54996582.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:09] kasc_ (n=kasc@dsl-082-083-151-001.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:09] kasc (n=kasc@dsl-082-083-153-099.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:10] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [22:27] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-105-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. 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