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[00:05] youngcoder (n=codemast@248M14.oasis.mediatti.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:11] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-033-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:11] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-033-048.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:12] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [01:38] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-097-237.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:46] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-105-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:54] youngcoder (n=codemast@248M14.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:16] <blindcoder> daja77: ehm... according to the Sent folder... no :( [08:27] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [08:27] <[raphael]> hi * [08:28] <[raphael]> clifford: what's the build-status? [08:28] <blindcoder> moin [raphael] [08:28] <[raphael]> moin blindcoder [08:52] <clifford> its finished so far. I will do some remaining fixes the next hours (updated packages which won't build, etc) [08:52] <clifford> .. ist some kde stuff. so I need to wait for the package rebuilds to finish. ;-) [08:56] <[raphael]> oh :) [08:57] <blindcoder> clifford: any idea how to do this in perl: foreach my $a (@b) { print $@$a[2]; } [08:57] <blindcoder> @b contains several \@c [08:58] <blindcoder> nevermind [08:58] <blindcoder> using the correct variables fixes the problem [08:59] Action: blindcoder stands in a dark corner with a pointy hat on his head [09:08] <netrunner> clifford: I tested cluster build on crystal. worked fine. [09:08] <[raphael]> Is there any rocklinux meeting any time soon? [09:08] <netrunner> clifford: only at complained it could not find a mailer as it was scheduled before exim (which I chose as default mta) [09:09] <blindcoder> [raphael]: a few people will be at the Linux Info Day in Dresden at 29.10.2005 [09:09] <[raphael]> blindcoder: how far north is Dresden? [09:10] <blindcoder> near chemnitz :) [09:10] <blindcoder> [raphael]: where are you located at? [09:11] <[raphael]> Austria, coming into Germany through Passau [09:13] <blindcoder> passau-dresden are around 4,5 hours [09:13] <clifford> [raphael]: there will be a meeting at CCC. [09:13] <blindcoder> 463 km [09:13] <[raphael]> clifford: where is CCC (was that in Berlin??) [09:13] <blindcoder> well, I'm not sure if I will attend CCC this year :( [09:13] <[raphael]> blindcoder: 9 hours of train travel [09:14] <clifford> yep. [09:14] <blindcoder> not since I heard the latest rumors about pricing [09:14] <clifford> see: https://www.ccc.de/congress/ [09:15] <blindcoder> word has it to be >70 EUR this year [09:16] <netrunner> blindcoder: *shocking* [09:16] <blindcoder> netrunner: it's been 40 last year [09:16] <netrunner> blindcoder: I know [09:21] <blindcoder> although I welcome the all-no-smoking thing :) [09:24] <netrunner> blindcoder: where do you get such info? the website is still only cfp as I see it [09:27] <blindcoder> netrunner: I know someone from the NOC team [09:43] <[raphael]> I looked through the CCC homepage a little bit... and given the date of the meeting I even might be there... (since I intended to be in Germany at the beginning of January anyway) [09:50] <blindcoder> that would be great :) [10:18] <clifford> daja77: Major improvements in the vim syntax file, you should update it on your side. [10:23] <blindcoder> clifford: you might try to get it into vim directly [10:23] <blindcoder> clifford: IIRC they even added the ROCK Linux .desc syntax file :) [10:41] <clifford> whom do I contact about this? [10:42] <owl> hi :/ [10:46] <blindcoder> I'd try vim@vim.org or vim-dev@vim.org [10:46] <blindcoder> moin owl [10:56] <daja77> blindcoder: will you send the mail or should I do it? [10:59] <owl> hi blindy [11:03] <blindcoder> daja77: already done it [11:03] <daja77> ah ok :) [11:03] <daja77> i just wanted to be sure [11:06] <blindcoder> daja77: think the description was ok? [11:06] <daja77> yes [11:07] <blindcoder> *phew* [11:07] <daja77> ;) [12:11] Pilot (n=pilot@corenet-node5.iph.ras.ru) joined #rocklinux. [12:12] <Pilot> hi all [12:14] <blindcoder> moin Pilot [12:24] <netrunner> privet pilot [12:25] <owl> hi Pilot [12:29] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [13:15] <blindcoder> you know what sucks? [13:15] <blindcoder> Now that I've finished the challenging part of this software I get bored to write the other 80% [13:17] <Pilot> :-/ [13:23] Action: netrunner ssh'ing to blindcoders bugs and nasty quirking pointers in the code. [13:23] <netrunner> s/bugs/box/( [13:23] <netrunner> blindcoder: have fun :) [13:29] <blindcoder> netrunner: leave my perl poniters alone! [13:32] <blindcoder> it took me four days to write this :( [14:01] <clifford> daja77: ping! [14:01] Action: blindcoder updating fisheye, fisheye.rocklinux.org won't give useful information for an hour or two [14:16] Pilot (n=pilot@corenet-node5.iph.ras.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [14:26] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [14:54] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:54] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:22] <blindcoder> YAY [15:22] <blindcoder> we got the talk at LIT DD :) [15:26] <cutio> when [15:27] <blindcoder> don't have the time yet [15:28] <blindcoder> tomorrow the program will be online [15:34] <cutio> ill be there, too [15:37] <blindcoder> YAY! [15:38] <clifford> hmmm.... [15:38] <clifford> debug "Some ASCII Codes: A = #A, B = #B, C = #C, D = #D" =~ e/#(.)/Rg ord($1); [15:38] <clifford> .. compiles to 57 SPL assember instructions and results in a 253 bytes binary [15:38] <blindcoder> o_O [15:39] Action: clifford is not sure if this is too much or ok. [15:39] <blindcoder> sounds an awful few to me [15:39] <blindcoder> try doing the same in C with pcre :) [15:40] <clifford> would be interesting to know how much it would be in perl. [15:40] <clifford> (well, you can't do it in perl in one instruction sequence, but this is another story ;-) [15:41] <blindcoder> well, IIRC esden failed to do even a hello world in perl using the perl compilers at the time [15:42] <clifford> yes. storing perl bytecode is horribly broken in perl 5. you need parrot + perl6 for that. [15:42] <clifford> but still perl has a internal bytecode representation. [15:56] Action: clifford now writing a static expressions optimizer. [15:56] <clifford> this would make a difference for scriptlet above, but it is cool to have something like that. ;-) [16:09] <[raphael]> clifford: iso ready for download yet (eta?) [16:10] Action: [raphael] feels a bit funny of literally craving for a fresh ROCK installation these days [16:14] <clifford> [raphael]: well, du you need qt and kde? [16:14] <[raphael]> clifford: heh, yes, that would be good [16:14] <clifford> then no. [16:14] <[raphael]> clifford: If I get an eta for tomorrow morning that would still be fine [16:14] <clifford> I have unresolved shared files conflicts in kdelibs and kdebase. [16:15] <[raphael]> duh... that's bad [16:15] <clifford> So the build system doesn't produce binary packages for them. [16:15] <[raphael]> did you do a KDE update since the last build? [16:15] <clifford> I can still offer the ISO from the last build. [16:15] <[raphael]> do the KDE versions differ? [16:16] <clifford> no, but some changes to the qt package [16:16] <[raphael]> no... there was no KDE update in your journal [16:16] <[raphael]> clifford: incompatible changes regarding an update later-on? [16:17] <clifford> the patch is [2005092002472714923] [16:17] <clifford> now I have shared files conflicts on etc/opt/qt33/qt_plugins_3.3rc [16:17] <[raphael]> oh.... the link to submaster? [16:17] <[raphael]> ah.. got it [16:18] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005092002472714923 [16:18] <clifford> damit. to late. ;-) [16:18] <[raphael]> heh [16:18] <[raphael]> clifford: I also assume that this patch creates the conflict? [16:19] <clifford> ? [16:19] <[raphael]> since there were no other KDE related changes since your last build [16:19] <[raphael]> the etc/opt/qt33/qt_plugins_3.3rc conflict [16:19] <clifford> yes. [16:22] <[raphael]> clifford: well, as far as I can see the changes are that more system libraries are used, not that many other changes, right? [16:23] <clifford> yes. [16:23] <[raphael]> ok, give me the link to your previous build [16:24] <[raphael]> clifford: I'll download that for now, I guess I'll do my own custom builds later on anyway, so it doesn't matter that much, but I want to start from a fairly recent version [16:24] <clifford> sent link in query [16:24] <clifford> I have "rocket upgrade" on my todo for next week. [16:25] <clifford> So updating to the new build should be easy then. [16:25] <[raphael]> thx, that's your private machine right, with 10 hours of estimated upload time? [16:25] <[raphael]> ok, great!! [16:25] <clifford> yup. [16:26] <th> clifford: why dont you let me upload this one to iso.rocklinux.de? [16:27] <clifford> because that's the one with the broken installer. [16:27] <[raphael]> th: well, it would at least need a note regarding the installer [16:27] <th> ahh i see [16:27] <[raphael]> the problem is also if it spreads (without the install instructions) that wouldn't be too nice [16:28] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54996237.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:28] <[raphael]> bye all! [16:29] <clifford> bye! [16:29] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [16:48] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-033-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:01] [anders-mcafee] (n=assassin@213.208.70.155) joined #rocklinux. [17:53] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-050-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:02] <blindcoder> re [18:16] <netrunner> bock [18:18] <blindcoder> whatever [18:51] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/pipermail/spl/2005-October/000086.html [18:51] <clifford> *yippijaje!* [18:52] <blindcoder> nice :) [18:53] <clifford> yep. i dont think that anyone would expect more from a scripting language compiler. [18:53] <esden> hi ho [18:53] <blindcoder> moin esden [18:54] <blindcoder> clifford: oh, don't you underestimate what I can expect :D [18:54] <clifford> ;-) [18:54] <blindcoder> strangely, reality regularly fails to meet my expectations [18:55] <clifford> afk for a few minutes -> smoking. *diehabichmirjetztaberverdient* [18:55] <blindcoder> now, I guess I should continue writing the "Useful Traffic Accounter" [18:58] <esden> humm humm [18:58] <blindcoder> esden: you miss a </a> is your blog :P [19:08] <esden> ups [19:08] <esden> corrected [19:10] <blindcoder> :) [19:11] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:56] aneredes (i=hannes@siff.bl0rg.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:04] aneredes (i=hannes@siff.bl0rg.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:03] Brian_L (n=brian@pcp09188441pcs.towson01.md.comcast.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:18] <daja77> clifford: pong [21:24] <[raphael]> clifford: what were the two steps after installation with the broken installer? [21:24] <blindcoder> [raphael]: rm /etc/postinstall/postinstall-sysfiles.sh [21:24] <blindcoder> or whatever it was called [21:24] <blindcoder> and mkdir /var/adm/postinstall [21:25] <[raphael]> blindcoder: thanks a lot!! [21:25] <blindcoder> you're welcome [21:27] <Brian_L> which Installer is broken? im new to rock linux and am about to begin building. [21:28] <blindcoder> Brian_L: there's a bug in the way ROCK handles postinstall files for packages [21:28] <blindcoder> Brian_L: it's been fixed in SVN already [21:28] <blindcoder> the installer is fine, but some packages were broken [21:28] <Brian_L> Thanks [21:28] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) left irc: "reboot" [21:32] <[raphael]> good night! [21:32] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:38] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54996237.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [23:05] <daja77> clifford: yes I had that qt kdelibs conflict too [23:06] <daja77> oh there is a fix [23:07] <Brian_L> Is it possible to use distcc during the build process? [23:07] <daja77> no [23:08] <Brian_L> thanks [23:22] SMP (n=stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) got netsplit. [23:25] SMP_ (n=stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:33] SMP (n=stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) got lost in the net-split. [00:00] --- Sat Oct 8 2005