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[07:29] <owl> *yawn* moin
[07:56] <blindcoder> moin
[08:23] <blindcoder> hmm
[08:23] <blindcoder> why do I need HighMem 4GB support if I have 1GB physical RAM?
[08:28] <owl> good question. 
[08:33] <blindcoder> without, free -m says 882 MB
[08:33] <blindcoder> with it free -m -says 1008 MB
[08:38] <owl> pff. 176 MB free, here ;)
[08:39] <blindcoder> hehe
[08:39] <owl> :( 
[08:39] <owl> sigh. i want my notebook. now *yawn*
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[08:58] <esden> moin
[08:58] <blindcoder> moin moin esden 
[08:59] <owl> hi esden 
[08:59] <esden> I do not want to go to fh today :(
[09:00] <blindcoder> then call in sick :P
[09:00] <esden> I want to stay home ... *sigh*
[09:00] <owl> esden: hopefully you accept it, that i modified your comment-entry... or better corrected the url... (esde.net to esden.net) 
[09:00] <esden> blindcoder: nooo .. I can't :(
[09:00] <blindcoder> and help me move this horrible linuxrc.c into a shellscripts
[09:00] <owl> esden: why do you want to stay at home?
[09:00] <esden> owl: accepted ;)
[09:00] <owl> esden: well ;)
[09:00] <blindcoder> CENSORSHIP!
[09:01] <blindcoder> esde.net is free speech! 
[09:01] <esden> owl: I want to sleep ... I want to code my stuff ... 
[09:01] <esden> blindcoder: :P
[09:01] <owl> blindcoder: yeah, totally... censored a typo ;)
[09:01] Action: esden whacking blindcoder with a blink lable
[09:01] <owl> esden: sleep: full ack. code: enjoy it *g*
[09:02] <blindcoder> *ou
[09:02] <blindcoder>    ch*
[09:02] <blindcoder> *ou
[09:02] <blindcoder>    ch*
[09:02] <owl> esden: already called ulli/gabel?
[09:02] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
[09:02] <blindcoder> I have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom-1
[09:03] <esden> owl: nooo I have to find something in rosenheim
[09:03] <esden> I am too seldom in ingolstadt
[09:03] <owl> esden: ah. ok. wait a second. i guess i 've got an article...
[09:07] <esden> oha? o_O
[09:09] <owl> esden: hmm. it would be in "ismaning"
[09:10] <owl> i've a complete reitschuhl-test of "munich and surrnounding" here...
[09:15] <esden> aaaha
[09:15] <owl> do you want it, then i could scan it and mail it to you?
[09:15] <esden> yes please
[09:15] <esden> I would appreciate that
[09:20] <th> https://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/        firefox and mozilla err-logs
[09:20] <th> anyone knows what's wrong there?
[09:23] <blindcoder> th: P4 optimisation?
[09:24] <th> hmmm
[09:24] <th> good idea
[09:24] <blindcoder> not idea, fact
[09:24] <blindcoder> got that with wmozilla earlier
[09:24] <th> so it's not the missing hotfix-binutils-gcc.patch  from trunk?
[09:24] <th> should i do p3 opt on p4?
[09:25] <blindcoder> yes
[09:25] <blindcoder> p4 is buggy as hell
[09:25] <th> k thanks
[09:27] <daja77> >_<
[09:27] <daja77> D    Oct17   0:40 [usb-storage]
[09:28] <blindcoder> eww
[09:34] <owl> esden: which mail-adress?
[09:40] <owl> my thinkpad is here :)
[09:41] <blindcoder> hehe
[09:41] <blindcoder> I sense a busy owl for the rest of the day
[09:41] <owl> *smile*
[09:42] <daja77> blindcoder: build started
[09:43] <blindcoder> daja77: of current trunk or with patches?
[09:43] <daja77> with all patches I made ...
[09:43] <blindcoder> daja77: can you send me a diff?
[09:44] <owl> oh sweet. i've a win xp prof. license now... O_O
[09:44] <blindcoder> owl: those usually come with laptopts
[09:44] <owl> nah. not every time... had a home-license with my ex-notebook
[09:44] <blindcoder> bah
[09:44] <blindcoder> home sucks :P
[09:44] <blindcoder> prof, too, for that mattr
[09:45] <daja77> except kernel update
[09:45] <daja77> 2005100514310523685 2005100700213028536 2005101319131816545 2005101421001427436 2005101421002327484 2005101516174806850
[09:47] <blindcoder> meh, just send me a svn diff or Create-Diff
[09:47] <blindcoder> I'm not able to get to my build machine right now
[09:49] <owl> yeah, i know
[09:52] <esden> waaaaahhhhh Uwe bought an iPod Video!!! I will kill that guy!
[09:52] <blindcoder> hehe
[09:52] <blindcoder> he must have too much money
[09:53] <blindcoder> how come students have so fucking much money
[09:53] <esden> it costs the same as my iPod the time I bought it
[09:53] <blindcoder> I sometimes have problems not getting into the reds at the end of the month
[09:53] <esden> blindcoder: they work ;)
[09:53] <blindcoder> esden: so do I :P
[09:53] <esden> blindcoder: you are drinking too much ... ;)
[09:53] <blindcoder> hardly
[09:55] <esden> dunno ... you misunderstood the use of money ... it is not made for stuffing your pillow and materace
[09:55] <blindcoder> haven't spent a cent on alcohol since august
[09:58] <blindcoder> note to self: don't call shell functions the same as binaries if you want to call the binary from the shellfunction
[10:13] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:13] <blindcoder> 7.2 MB stage 1
[10:32] <daja77> blindcoder: I don't have a diff ...
[10:33] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[10:34] <blindcoder> I'll try to remember until I get home
[10:34] <blindcoder> otherwise I'll get back to you :)
[10:34] <blindcoder> currently I'm busy ironing out the last bugs from the udev enabled, bash rewritten stage 1 bootdisk
[10:35] <blindcoder> HAH
[10:35] <blindcoder> 6.5 MB
[10:54] <blindcoder> HAH
[10:54] <blindcoder> just entered stage 2 :D
[11:19] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:19] <blindcoder> need to modify stone_mod_install.sh
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[12:08] <th> blindcoder: could you make a 1st version available for review somewhere?
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[12:36] <blindcoder> th: as soon as it works
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[12:37] <th> blindcoder: i dont want to use it
[12:37] <th> blindcoder: i want to see the concept
[12:38] <blindcoder> th: I will make one this evening, because I have an a bit outdated tree here
[12:39] <th> k thanks
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[12:49] <blindcoder> AAAARGGGHH
[12:49] <daja77> you name it
[12:49] <blindcoder> Create-ErrList -newdelete just removed every package
[12:50] <blindcoder> EVERY FUCKING SINGLE PACKAGE
[12:50] <daja77> oh scripts/Cleanup -full does the same
[12:51] <blindcoder> not really
[12:51] <blindcoder> at least the package tar.bz2 files are still there
[12:52] <clifford> blindcoder: newdelete is using the source cksum.
[12:52] <clifford> .. maybe you want to submit a patch so it is using the version number instead?
[12:52] <blindcoder> clifford: so why does the source checksum change for all packages?
[12:52] Action: clifford hiding.  ;-)
[12:53] <blindcoder> clifford: I'm already rewiring the bootdisk to work without devfs, thankyouverymuch
[12:53] <clifford> blindcoder: build priority update
[12:53] <blindcoder> clifford: I didn't run svn up between builds
[12:53] <clifford> hmm.. in this case it is just broken ..
[12:53] <blindcoder> ...
[12:54] <blindcoder> -<censored>-
[12:55] <clifford> .. but I can't see how ..
[12:55] Action: clifford trying..
[12:57] <blindcoder> hmm
[12:58] <blindcoder> I get an empty string for bzip2
[12:58] <blindcoder> grep '^ROCK Linux Package ...' build/foo/var/adm/packages/bzip | tr '/:' '  ' | cut -f6,13 -d' '
[12:58] <blindcoder> that gives an empty string
[12:59] <clifford> yesno.
[12:59] <clifford> I'm also at this line right now.
[12:59] <blindcoder> argh
[12:59] Action: clifford cant chat and debug at the same time.. give me a few minutes.. ;-)
[12:59] <blindcoder> I've got it
[12:59] <blindcoder> -f6 should be the checksum
[13:00] <blindcoder> but there are TWO spaces betwees 'Checksum' and the checksum
[13:00] <blindcoder> which would make it -f7
[13:00] <clifford> no.
[13:00] <clifford> -f6 is the package name
[13:00] Action: clifford cant chat and debug at the same time.. give me a few minutes.. ;-)
[13:01] <clifford> split packages.
[13:01] <blindcoder> indeed
[13:01] <clifford> *grml*
[13:01] <blindcoder> just came to the same conclusion :)
[13:01] <th> 13:00:11 < blindcoder> grep '^ROCK Linux Package ...' build/foo/var/adm/packages/bzip | tr '/:' '  ' | cut -f6,13 -d' '
[13:01] <th> try s/bzip/bzip2/
[13:02] <blindcoder> th: it was manually written :P
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[13:12] <clifford> blindcoder: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005101813123515047
[13:18] <blindcoder> clifford: wouldn't a simple [ -z "${cksum1}" ] && continue be enough?
[13:18] <blindcoder> plus the -rfs for mine
[13:23] <blindcoder> 6.8 MB stage 1
[13:24] <daja77> https://www.tagesschau.de/aktuell/meldungen/0,1185,OID4844526_REF1,00.html have a look at the schily quote in the box ...
[13:25] <blindcoder> must I?
[13:26] <daja77> just for fun if you like ^^
[13:26] <blindcoder> OSO
[13:26] <blindcoder> Jugendliches Alter von 67 Jahren...
[13:26] <daja77> jepp
[13:26] <daja77> we are kids
[13:27] <blindcoder> so true
[13:29] <blindcoder> hmm
[13:29] <blindcoder> guess i can give a WorksForMe release of the bootdisk-udev target soon
[14:00] <th> anyone familiar with vimscripting here?
[14:00] <blindcoder> hm, no
[14:31] <esden> auuuaaaa paiiiiiin
[14:34] <esden> humm .. what would happen if I would drink the deodorant standing beside me?
[14:49] <blindcoder> you would get rid of "mundgeruch"
[14:55] <esden> blindcoder: good idea ... *gulp*
[14:56] <esden> bahhh that tastes terribly! :(
[14:59] <blindcoder> o_O
[15:02] <blindcoder> th: 2005101815015602450
[15:03] Action: blindcoder awaits being flamed to hell and back
[15:07] <daja77> hm why
[15:08] <blindcoder> for that patch
[15:10] <daja77> looks not so bad at the first glance, no idea if that works though
[15:11] <blindcoder> well, it does here
[15:11] <daja77> cool
[15:11] <blindcoder> at least it reaches stage 2
[15:12] <blindcoder> now I'm going to build a few packages with dietlibc again and see if that makes a reasonable difference in initrd size
[15:13] <daja77> works in the sense of the installer works on install :)
[15:14] <blindcoder> *nod*
[15:16] <blindcoder> and it now is easy bash code instead of cryptic C
[15:41] <clifford> what do you mean by "cryptic C" ?!?!?!
[15:41] <clifford> ;-)
[15:42] <daja77> .oO (I must have been on drugs when i wrote this)
[15:42] <blindcoder> clifford: for example 30 lines just for "wget | tar" :P
[15:44] <clifford> okok..
[15:44] <blindcoder> YAY, I WIN :)
[15:45] <blindcoder> damn, somebody put something in my coffee today
[15:45] Action: daja77 hides
[15:45] <clifford> www.clifford.at/priv/Spinne.jpg
[15:46] <daja77> lol
[15:47] <blindcoder> what the fuck...
[16:00] <daja77> interesting that even coffeine has such an impact
[16:03] <blindcoder> daja77: didn't that guy at CLT talk to you about caffeine?
[16:04] <daja77> which one?
[16:04] <blindcoder> only know one
[16:05] <blindcoder> who talked to me about his experience of coffeine on old people
[16:05] <daja77> that old guy?
[16:05] <blindcoder> yeah
[16:06] <daja77> *shudder*
[16:06] <blindcoder> hehe
[16:06] <daja77> hey I did not really listen
[16:06] <daja77> he got me in a real bad moment
[16:16] <blindcoder> yeah, same here
[16:16] <blindcoder> a moment where I lacked an excuse to get away :)
[16:17] <daja77> this guy wanted me to contact him, but he had no email ... he gave me a phone number yeah
[16:26] <clifford> Error logs from ref1011-TRUNK-x86-reference:
[16:26] <clifford> 3077 builds total, 3077 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[16:28] <daja77> hm I wonder why I am getting build errors when doing a complete crystal build then
[16:28] <blindcoder> sweet :)
[16:32] <blindcoder> feierabend
[16:32] <blindcoder> bbl
[16:34] <clifford> **applymania**
[16:35] <daja77> :)
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[17:04] <blindcoder> back
[17:26] <blindcoder> merfle
[17:35] <kasal> clifford: ping?
[17:43] <kasal> doesn't matter, I'll mail
[17:48] <blindcoder> daja77: so, will we restart with current trunk? AFAICS all your patches were applied and a few dozen more
[17:51] <daja77> will restart too
[17:51] <blindcoder> daja77: okay. plain trunk I'd say
[17:52] <daja77> mom
[17:53] <daja77> blindcoder: please add the wget, curl and the kde update
[17:53] <blindcoder> okay
[17:54] <daja77> and apache
[17:54] <daja77> security stuff
[17:56] <owl> gaaaaargh. life is bad. *headshot*
[17:57] <blindcoder> owl: your new laptop is not as good as you thought?
[17:57] <owl> blindcoder: nah, my external HDD is in process of dying... 
[17:58] <blindcoder> heh
[17:58] <owl> (this HDD is about 6 month (some days left till 6 month) old)
[17:58] <blindcoder> think positive
[17:58] <blindcoder> you can afford a new laptop
[17:58] <owl> mediamarkt is my friend *smile*
[17:58] <owl> huh?
[17:58] <blindcoder> I'm currently wondering if it's possible to eat regularly with the stuff I have at hom
[17:58] <owl> blindcoder: hm?
[17:59] <blindcoder> owl: well, I have my financially worst month that I can remember this month
[17:59] <blindcoder> I'll end > 500 EUR in the reds
[17:59] <owl> .oO( how many month have a month? O_O )
[17:59] <owl> blindcoder: why this?
[18:00] <blindcoder> good question
[18:00] <blindcoder> I really don't know where I spent all the money
[18:07] <blindcoder> owl: oh, and btw: a month has 0.96 months
[18:09] <blindcoder> daja77: okay: curl, wget, apache and KDE updates applied
[18:10] <daja77> thx
[18:10] <daja77> throwing away a nice build again ;)
[18:11] <blindcoder> hehe
[18:14] <owl> blindcoder: O_O
[18:14] <clifford> "a month has 0.96 months"  .oO( inflationaere zeit? )
[18:14] <blindcoder> owl: routding error :)
[18:16] <owl> tsssss
[18:16] <blindcoder> daja77: okay, I have scheduled: noopt, pentium-mmx, pentium 2, pentium 3 and pentium m
[18:18] <clifford> Ok. New crystal build started.. I'm now afk for today..
[18:18] <blindcoder> bye
[18:20] <daja77> cu
[18:25] <fake> hi
[18:25] Action: fake looking for stf
[18:25] <daja77> hi fake
[19:20] Action: netrunner online from russia via gprs
[19:20] <netrunner> *makingwindowsmaller*
[19:20] <fake> traffic
[19:20] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[19:20] <fake> lkalalalla
[19:20] <fake> ;-)
[19:20] Action: netrunner kicking fake into his *unfriendlyword*
[19:20] <fake> popo?
[19:21] <fake> ;-))
[19:22] <blindcoder> /figlet WE LOVE TRAFFIC
[19:23] <netrunner>  /ignore fake
[19:23] <netrunner>  /ignore blindcoder
[19:23] <netrunner> :)
[19:23] <fake>  /ignore all ?
[19:23] <fake> ;)
[19:23] <blindcoder> hehe
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[19:36] <fake> THUNDERSTRUCK! daaaadadadaaaa
[19:39] <blindcoder> o_O
[19:39] <fake> AC/DC
[19:39] <fake> ahahahahaaaahaaa
[19:39] <blindcoder> ah, ok
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[20:32] Action: daja77 pokes fake again
[20:33] <fake> hum?
[20:33] Action: fake peeks daja77
[20:34] <daja77> for the certificate ;)
[20:35] <fake> ah, w8
[20:38] <fake> daja77: done
[20:38] <fake> 3600 days this time...
[20:38] <daja77> nice ;)
[20:38] <daja77> thx
[20:39] <daja77> I am still using it, not quite often though ;)
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[20:42] <fake> daja77: neither do i...
[20:42] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder
[20:43] <daja77> hehe you are less frequently ;)
[20:43] <daja77> but sometimes it is fun
[20:43] <fake> q
[20:43] <fake> oops
[20:44] <daja77> this is no vi ;)
[20:44] <blindcoder> /quit ?
[20:46] <fake> no, ribosome
[20:56] <cutio> q! pls
[20:56] <blindcoder> q like cutio?
[20:57] <blindcoder> I prefer :wq! or ZZ
[20:57] <cutio> qtio!
[20:57] <cutio> hm
[20:59] <fake> Ctrl+s ;-)
[20:59] <cutio> eeek
[21:00] <blindcoder> eep
[21:00] <owl> re
[21:00] <blindcoder> wb owl 
[21:00] <blindcoder> how's your new toy
[21:01] <owl> blindcoder: alive. and i saw, that nowhere in IN is a store, which sells partition managers.......
[21:01] <blindcoder> parted?
[21:02] <owl> blindcoder: it is able to resize existzing window-partition ande split it and so?
[21:02] <blindcoder> what for? just delete it :P
[21:02] <owl> nope
[21:02] <cutio> should work with ntfs
[21:03] <owl> ok O_O
[21:03] <cutio> https://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/
[21:04] <fake> *hint: ntfsresize rocks
[21:04] <cutio> yep fake
[21:07] <owl> aeh. problem: i need a linuy-system first then........
[21:07] <cutio> no you dont
[21:07] <fake> iso.rocklinux.de -> unofficial -> fake -> livecd rev 6454
[21:08] <daja77> oh a new one
[21:08] <fake> get it while it's still hot ;)
[21:08] <owl> hehe. ok
[21:08] <blindcoder> is 6454 still recent?
[21:08] <cutio> tomsrtbt rocks :)
[21:08] <fake> you can even compile ntfsresize if it's not on there
[21:08] <blindcoder> luke-warm at best :P
[21:08] <fake> tomsrtbt?
[21:09] <daja77> 1.4mb floppy linux
[21:09] <fake> nice
[21:10] <daja77> rtbt = ready to boot ;)
[21:11] <fake> i was thinking bt = bluetooth
[21:11] <owl> ah. my dad's computerbild program works
[21:12] <blindcoder> you let him buy that?
[21:12] <fake> computerbild is a very renown publication. *ROFL*
[21:12] <fake> https://f4k3.net/pics/other/computerbild.jpg
[21:13] <owl> blindcoder: my dad is a DAU :)
[21:13] <blindcoder> that's no excuse :P
[21:14] <blindcoder> fake: well, that's not _too_ wrong
[21:14] <blindcoder> but I could forward you a mail from the belug list if you want...
[21:14] <owl> fake: *lol* @ link 
[21:14] <blindcoder> From "Markt&Technik"
[21:15] <blindcoder> Betriebssystem: [...]Sichere Betriebssysteme sind Windows XP und Windows 2000. 
[21:15] <blindcoder> Linux ist ein anderes Betriebs-system, das auf PCs läuft,[...]
[21:15] <blindcoder> HTML: Die Programmiersprache, mit der Internetseiten erstellt werden.
[21:15] <blindcoder> Java: Programmiersprache der Firma SUN zur Gestaltung von aktiven Elementen 
[21:15] <blindcoder> auf Internet-Seiten.
[21:15] <blindcoder> Kommentar: Gelber Textkasten mit Textinhalt, der einer Zelle zugewiesen wir, 
[21:15] <blindcoder> um zusätzliche Informationen festzuhalten. Die Zelle wird mit einem Indikator 
[21:15] <fake> *ROFL*
[21:15] <blindcoder> gekennzeichnet.
[21:15] <fake> @java
[21:15] <blindcoder> Linux:[...]Kann kostenlos im Internet kopiert werden. Der Internet-Browser für 
[21:15] <cutio> i want their drugs
[21:15] <blindcoder> Linux heißt Konqueror.
[21:15] <fake> wuahaha
[21:15] <blindcoder> Pfad: [...] Der Pfad beginnt mit dem Laufwerksbuchstaben, dann werden alle 
[21:15] <blindcoder> Ordner aneinandergereiht [...]
[21:16] <blindcoder> Desktop: Die Oberfläche von Winows XP mit der Taskleiste und weiteren Symbolen 
[21:16] <blindcoder> (Papierkorb, Arbeitsplatz etc.).
[21:16] <blindcoder> okay, those are the gems :)
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[21:31] <owl> re
[21:32] <owl> well. partitionmanager now solved the problem ;)
[21:32] <blindcoder> killed all partitions?
[21:33] <owl> blindcoder: nah :) resized it *g*
[21:34] <blindcoder> ah
[21:35] <owl> so. and now i will install slack. bbl
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[21:54] <blindcoder> someone got the mplayer sources around?
[21:54] <blindcoder> MPlayer-1.0pre7try2.tar.bz2?
[22:01] <daja77> not try2 ...
[22:02] <blindcoder> how do you build crystal then?
[22:03] <daja77> I do not atm, sm synch'ed before I left my workplace
[22:03] <daja77> now I am looking at it
[22:03] <blindcoder> ah
[22:03] <blindcoder> ok
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[22:10] <stf^rocklinux> hi
[22:10] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux 
[22:10] <stf^rocklinux> moin blindcoder
[22:11] <stf^rocklinux> prepared my ISOs for upload yesterday
[22:12] <blindcoder> good boy :)
[22:12] <stf^rocklinux> seems th and fake are afk...
[22:13] <stf^rocklinux> I can't upload them myself -_-
[22:33] <owl> re
[22:43] <owl> hmmm. nice. everything works out of the box... (ok wlan and bluetooth not yet tested)
[23:10] <th> .
[23:11] <th> stf^rocklinux: 
[23:11] <stf^rocklinux> hi th
[23:11] <stf^rocklinux> ISOs are ready
[23:12] <stf^rocklinux> th: could you please upload them? 
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